E45: The Hoax of the Century, Hybrid Warfare, Iran, and Israel with Jacob Siegel

Dan Romero, Erik Torenberg and Antonio Garcia Martinez are joined by journalist Jacob Siegel to discuss disinformation, the evolving narrative between tech and political power, and geopolitics. This episode was recorded on October 1st, before Hamas' attack on Israel. If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta for $1000 off: https://www.vanta.com/zen

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode Preview

(01:48) Jacob on Balaji’s Gray - Red - Blue tribe framework

(03:38) How to make the Gray tribe inspiring

(06:30) E/acc and tech with grandeur

(08:27) Abundance agenda vs administrative state

(14:20) Bernie Sanders

(15:55) Sponsors: Vanta | NetSuite

(18:10) Elon Musk relationship with Obama-era Whitehouse

(22:28) Private markets vs Government subsidized innovation

(24:00) Ideal balance between protectionist policies and free markets

(29:45) Jacob on Israel over-leveraging its tech sector

(36:00) Tracing the narrative of tech and democratic political power

(42:30) Hybrid warfare since 2014

(46:20) Antonio joins the conversation

(51:00) Gamergate as a pivotal event

(01:03:00) Plato’s cave reflections of American domestic political neurosis

(01:08:40) Ukraine, Russia, and Biden’s strategic logic

(01:18:30) Can there be a happy ending in Israel?

(01:24:00) The threat of Iran

(01:34:30) US should end the Israeli Subsidy

(01:45:00)The fight over the soul of the nation

(01:51:00) Predicting the future of Israel in 30-40 years