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The Fight for Bitcoin Against CBDCs with Mark Moss - WBD731

97 min • 3 november 2023

Mark Moss is a serial entrepreneur, author, speaker and host of The Mark Moss Show. In this interview, we discuss Bitcoin, the challenges of building in a bear market, the convergence of political, financial, and tech cycles, the concept of generational theory, the current political landscape, and the influence of tech on society. We also talk about the impact of AI on business and jobs, the relationship between religion and morality, and the future of global currencies.

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Mark Moss is a regular and popular guest, and we had an engaging conversation that spanned a variety of topics. We started by discussing a subject Mark is well known for focusing on - the concept of cycles. Political, financial, and technological revolutions have converged at pivotal moments in human history. Mark believes that we’re living through such a convergence now and that by understanding these cycles we can better comprehend the state of the world.

We discussed the concept of generational theory and how it relates to human nature, referencing a book called "The Pendulum" that explores the idea of swings between centralization and decentralization through history. We also delved into the current political climate and the potential for a material ‘regime change’, in the context of a continuing growth in scale and capacity of the administrative state where non-elected officials hold significant power.

The discussion covered how technology has changed the way people communicate and organize. We mentioned that the current form of government is no longer compatible with the world we are entering, as it was designed to manage large corporations and treat people as collectives rather than as individuals. Today, information is being liberated through technology; this resultant access to information is problematic for authority figures.

Mark explained his perspective on the impact of technology, specifically AI, on business, industry, and jobs. He mentioned his experience in internet businesses in witnessing the evolution of technology. Mark believes that AI is a continuation of the technological revolution that started with the internet, which democratized and commoditized technical workers, leading to the availability of skilled workers from different countries at lower costs.

Finally, we discussed the potential future of global currencies. In particular, the growing influence of BRICS nations and the expectation they will launch a new gold-backed currency. And, we discussed the potential impact of CBDCs on global trade and control. On the flip side, stablecoins are growing in popularity and allow countries like Argentina to access the dollar market. We discussed stablecoins' potential impact and the control that comes with them.

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Show notes: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/the-fight-for-bitcoin-against-cbdcs

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