Interview with Matthew Ford, host of the The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford. We talk about UAPs and politics, as well as the intricacies of working such a massive and important issue as disclosure through the halls of power when the two major parties are typically at odds. We discuss his personal experience with the phenomenon, and how whistleblowers are now concerned that Sean Kirkpatrick of AARO may not have what it takes to protect people and get the truth out. Matt also describes how he believes a certain breed of debunker has made an industry out of disrespecting witnesses with flippant denials and nonsensically prosaic explanations.