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How Is a Gin Company Going to Change the World? With Dr. Jo Davy and Dr. Helen Gower

31 min • 2 mars 2025

What do marine biology, menopause, and gin have in common? More than you might think!

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Jo Davy and Dr. Helen Gower – two marine biologists turned gin distillers and ethical entrepreneurs. They met in a university lab studying marine ecosystems and coral diseases, spent decades working in science and public health, and then went on to start a gin company – but not your typical one. Unlike the bearded, serious craft distillers that dominate the industry with glass bottles (you know how I feel about that), Jo and Helen bring something different. A science-and-ethics-first approach to creating something delicious for an underserved, often invisible group of consumers. And they’re having fun doing it.

In this episode, they share:

  • Their backgrounds in marine biology and the journey to gin-making
  • Why glass isn’t the sustainable solution we’ve been led to believe
  • The massive carbon footprint of traditional spirits packaging
  • How they started distilling gin in a leaky garage between lockdowns
  • The scientific method behind their gin formulations (yes, they have lab notebooks)
  • The connection between gin and menopause
  • Why their brand is reclaiming the lost history of female distillers
  • How they navigate the male-dominated, “hairy seriousness” of the spirits industry
  • The challenge of convincing people that two women actually make their own gin
  • Their transition from paperboard bottles to post-consumer recycled aluminium

Key Quotes

“People see glass as premium, but they have no idea about the environmental cost.”

“We walked into a gin festival, looked at the tiny still in the corner, and thought - we can do that.”

“We’re invisible. And if you stand up for yourself, that can be annoying and irritating and people don’t like that.”

“If someone swaps a gin that they might currently purchase regularly that might be actually damaging the planet… that could move the needle quite a lot.”

More about Jo and Helen: follow them on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/joandhels/

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