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257. What If We Get It Right?

12 september 2024 | 51 min

256. We're Back! With a Cascade of Climate News

5 september 2024 | 38 min

Welcome back to Season 10! With the hosts together again following our break, Tom, Paul and Christiana are bursting with news and analysis.

Up for discussion this week, the hosts try to understand why the Democrats haven’t been talking much about climate change and what drives Kamala Harris’ outrage and optimism. They delve deeper into the UK’s new Labour Government’s plans around energy, nature and climate change.

Plus the hosts scan the horizon for the consequential moments in climate policy, with UNGA, Climate Week NYC and two COPs hurtling towards us.

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Outrage + Optimism, Live at Climate Week NYC

Event Title: It’s Time To Unite For Mission 2025

Event Details: Tuesday 24th September, 12:00 - 13:00 ET, Glasshouse (NYC)

Event Description: Mission 2025 is a coalition of courageous leaders - mayors, governors, CEOs, investors, athletes, musicians and citizens - who are inviting governments to ratchet upcoming national climate plans (known as Nationally Determined Contributions) in line with the Paris Agreement target of limiting global warming to 1.5C.

Described as ‘Defenders of Paris’, Mission 2025 Partners arrive at Climate Week New York with a major update of new organizations who are ready to embolden governments to set more ambitious plans and accelerate implementation because they know this can unlock trillions in private investment, scale cheap renewable energy, support industries to compete in a low carbon economy, and safeguard living standards equitably for our people.

As a live recorded Outrage+Optimism podcast, this flagship event will demonstrate how these plans can be upgraded by showcasing government and real economy leaders who are driving towards ‘positive tipping points’ across the three themes of energy, nature & food, and finance.

The event is supported by the Mission 2025 Partners and convened by Groundswell – a collaboration between Global Optimism, Bezos Earth Fund and Systems Change Lab – together with the Climate Group.

Registering: Please reach out to [email protected] if you are interested in joining this event

Fact check: Sea levels are already rising faster per year than Trump claims they might rise over ‘next 497 years’ CNN, June 2024

Trump’s chat with Musk on X fact-checked BBC, August 2024

Climate Concerns Dip - Monmouth University Poll, May 2024

Labour Government’s In-Tray for Climate Change, Energy and Nature Carbon Brief

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255. US Election Special: Is a Win for Harris a Win for Climate?

23 juli 2024 | 30 min

254. Elections Roundup

9 juli 2024 | 43 min

253. Mid-2024 Climate Review: How Are We Doing?

4 juli 2024 | 44 min

252. Mission 2025: It's Time For Leaders To Lead (Recorded Live!)

29 juni 2024 | 27 min

This week, we recorded live from London Climate Action Week at the Mission 2025 launch event. Tom Rivett-Carnac was joined by guests Andrew Steer (Bezos Earth Fund), Adair Turner (ETC), Isabelle Noero (Earthrise), Hein Schumacher (Unilever), Tamsin Ballard (PRI), Karen Pflug (INGKA Group) and Nigar Arpadarai (COP29 Champion). Hear their conversations about how to act on climate with speed and scale.

Moving faster on tackling the climate crisis is too difficult, too unpopular or too expensive, right? Wrong! This week a new high-ambition coalition of business, mayors, investors, health leaders, athletes, youth activists, scientists and citizens was launched to call on governments to move even faster on climate action. Over 20 organisations have joined Mission 2025, to say: "We are ready to embolden governments to set more ambitious plans and accelerate implementation. We know this can unlock trillions in private investment to protect our nature, scale cheap renewable energy, support industries to compete in a low carbon economy, and safeguard living standards equitably for our people." Mission 2025 is a much needed effort to unlock the momentum needed for this transition to happen at the speed and scale required, and with the equity deserved. Because holding the line on 1.5°C is not an aspirational target – it is a scientific imperative.

We hope you enjoy this lively conversation!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUESTS

Andrew Steer, President and CEO of the Bezos Earth Fund

Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission

Isabella Noero, Head of Collaborative Partnerships at Earthrise Studio

Hein Schumacher, CEO of Unilever

Tamsin Ballard, Chief Initiatives Officer at PRI

Karen Pflug, Chief Sustainability Officer at Ingka Group

London Climate Action Week

Nigar Arpadarai, UN Climate Change High-Level Champion for COP29 Azerbaijan

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Presenting: 'We Are The Great Turning'

26 juni 2024 | 32 min

251. World Refugee Day: Migration In A Post-Climate Change World

20 juni 2024 | 54 min

250. Why Collective Trauma Is Keeping Us Stuck On Climate

13 juni 2024 | 42 min

249. US Elections: Could Trump Surprise Us On Climate?

6 juni 2024 | 47 min

248. Cheaper, Faster, Better: How We'll Win the Climate War

30 maj 2024 | 56 min

247. The Pope’s Hope? Biden’s Tariffs and Jeremy Clarkson’s About-Turn

23 maj 2024 | 42 min

246. Trump's Oily Offer, Mobilizing Young Climate Voters and The State of Scientists

16 maj 2024 | 38 min

245. Deceit, Small Thinking and Fiduciary Duty

9 maj 2024 | 40 min

244. Movies, Mosses, and Stories to Change The World

4 maj 2024 | 50 min

Presenting: 'The Anti-Dread Climate Podcast - Does What We Do Really Matter?'

1 maj 2024 | 11 min

243. Microplastics, Transition Plans and The Beginning of The End of The Climate Crisis?

25 april 2024 | 60 min

This week, our hosts each arrive with one specific issue they feel freshly outraged or optimistic about. Tom talks about how Earth Day 2024 will come to be known as the beginning of the end of the climate crisis. Christiana is outraged (and a tiny bit optimistic) about the plastics pandemic. And Paul gets fired up about investor and corporate transition plans - can he convince his co-hosts to ‘light the blue touch paper’ and ignite their own optimism?

Music comes from Cosmo Sheldrake with his song, “Soil”. Cosmo is a UK-based multi-instrumentalist, producer, composer, live improviser, and field recordist. As part of the Museum for the United Nations – UN Live’s new initiative Sounds Right, Cosmo has shared this new track “Soil (feat. NATURE)”, a homage to the powerful transformative and generative capacities of subterranean ecosystems. Money raised will go towards conservation projects around the world.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

The Babies vs Plastics Report

23 - 29 April 2024 in Canada - The Fourth Session of the Intergovernmental Negotiating Committee on Plastic Pollution

242. Xiye Bastida: Her Story of Nature (Earth Day Special)

22 april 2024 | 30 min

To mark Earth Day, Christiana shares her conversation with the incredible young climate justice activist, indigenous rights advocate and author Xiye Bastida.

From the Otomi-Toltec indigenous community in Central Mexico, Xiye’s life and work demonstrate how indigenous wisdom and principles unearth solutions to the climate crisis. She is driven to create a climate movement that is more inclusive and more diverse.

Since 2019, Xiye has been actively involved in organising climate strikes with Fridays For Future, including for their largest youth-led march in New York City. In her role as Co-founder and Executive Director of Re-Earth Initiative, Xiye supports frontline youth across 27 countries, whilst also studying for an Environmental Studies degree with a concentration in Policy and a Minor in Latin American Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. Recently listed in TIME100 Next as a phenomenon (we agree!), she holds the UN Spirit Award.

This episode is the full, unedited version of a conversation recorded for the recent mini series Our Story of Nature - From Rupture to Reconnection, co-hosted by Christiana Figueres and Isabel Cavelier. This is a wonderful and moving insight into Xiye’s story of nature, on how to slow down, and how we might keep past and future generations in our minds - and hearts. We hope you enjoy it!

Background on Earth Day:

The first Earth Day was on April 22nd 1970. Across America, twenty million people took to the streets to protest against environmental destruction. Many people were motivated by the devastating impacts of a recent oil spill in California, others campaigned to reduce air pollution. The spirit, scale and power of the protests were inspired by student anti-Vietnam marches.

Denis Hayes, who coordinated the original Earth Day, remembers how the day unified diverset groups: "By the time it finally came around, it was in virtually every town, every village, in the United States. It took this basket of issues that we now call 'the environment' and elevated them spectacularly in the public consciousness."

Earth Day 1970 is described as the dawn of the modern environmental movement. Events that day resulted in political changes: landmark environmental laws were later passed in the United States - the Clean Air and Water Acts - and the Environmental Protection Agency was created. Many other countries subsequently adopted similar laws. In 2016, the United Nations chose Earth Day as the day to sign the Paris Climate Agreement into force.

Earth Day is now the biggest civic event in the world, with billions of people participating in events to highlight the urgent need to protect our planet. Its theme this year is Planet vs. Plastics - calling for widespread awareness on the health risk of plastics, for an end to single use plastics, and for a robust UN Treaty on Plastic Pollution.

NOTES AND RESOURCES More on Xiye Bastida, Co-founder and Director of Re-Earth Initiative

241. 40 Seconds to Save The World! with Paul Goodenough

18 april 2024 | 57 min

This week, the hosts discuss the much celebrated ruling last week at the European Court of Human Rights when over 2000 women aged 64 and up, took the Swiss Government to court for failing to protect them from the growing effects of climate change which proved detrimental to their health. The court in Strasbourg ruled in favour of the women, opening up a pathway for other similar cases to now be heard. The hosts briefly discuss the ruling as well as the backlash experienced among some MPs in the UK and Switzerland and why their accusations of infringement upon country sovereignty is false.

We are then joined by the incredible Paul Goodenough, an award-winning, purpose-driven storyteller and entrepreneur, working in the environmental, charity, peace-building and entertainment sectors. In 2019, Paul co-founded Rewriting Earth (formerly Rewriting Extinction), a global collaboration of 300+ of the most influential storytellers creating non-political, non-judgemental content to reach mainstream audiences not typically engaged with environmental issues. It was a brilliant, fun and inspiring interview - make sure to listen to hear how Paul G describes how he hopes the stories he helps bring to life ‘throw an arm around people’ and welcome them into the climate space. The more the merrier we say!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Paul Goodenough, an award-winning, purpose-driven storyteller and entrepreneur, working in the environmental, charity, peace-building and entertainment sectors Website | LinkedIn | Twitter (X) | Instagram

Rewriting Earth Website | Facebook | Twitter (X) | Instagram

Rewriting Earth’s book, The Most Important Comic Book on Earth: Stories to Save the World, launched in the UK in 2021 and is available at Bookshop.org. The book is launching in Germany next week and is available at Panini Shop.

To listen to our recent mini-series, Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection visit the dedicated Website page, which includes unedited versions of interviews with our wonderful guests.

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Presenting: ‘How To Academy Podcast with Christiana Figueres - Facing the Climate Crisis Live In Conversation with Paul Polman’

16 april 2024 | 56 min

240. Two Years to Save The World? With Simon Stiell

12 april 2024 | 38 min

239. Krista Tippett: Her Story of Nature

4 april 2024 | 40 min

238. Impatient for Change with Hannah Ritchie

28 mars 2024 | 52 min

237. Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection - Over to You!

21 mars 2024 | 65 min

236. SOTU: Unpacking Biden's Vision and The IRA

14 mars 2024 | 63 min

This week, we bring you a US democracy special, discussing Joe Biden’s energetic State of the Union Address in which climate action played a significant role, and also the new guidelines from the Securities and Exchange Commission, a move which has seen the Commission attract a slew of legal challenges from both sides of the climate divide. The hosts ask: can Biden’s campaign for presidency in 2024 unite the partisan divide around climate change and if not, how can we protect the progress that the IRA has already made in the US in the face of a Trump victory?

To help us unpack all of this, we have the force of nature and great friend of the podcast, Gina McCarthy, former White House National Climate Advisor and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator. Today, Gina is a Senior Advisor at Bloomberg Philanthropies, the Managing Co-Chair of the America Is All In Coalition, and a Senior Fellow at The Fletcher School’s Climate Policy Lab at Tufts University. She is also an Operating Advisor at Pegasus Capital Advisors and a Senior Advisor at TPG Rise Climate Fund. She serves as co-chair of the India-U.S. Track II Dialogue on Energy and Climate Change, and on the Board of Directors for the Energy Foundation and the Resources Legacy Foundation.

Music this week comes from James Hastings with his beautiful song ‘Mother’. James is a singer-songwriter whose unique brand of eco-conscious alt-folk conjures up wild, earthy textures enfolded in ethereal, electronic landscapes.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Gina McCarthy, former White House National Climate Advisor and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Website

MUSIC

James Hastings

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235. Female Leadership Can Unlock Systemic Change (International Women's Day 2024)

7 mars 2024 | 74 min

Get ready to celebrate International Women's Day with Tom and Christiana on Outrage + Optimism! We're discussing the fallout from Super Tuesday and the uphill battle for female parliamentary leadership. Plus, don't miss our exclusive interview with the incredible Gaia van der Esch! Tune in for insights, inspiration, and empowerment!

Gaia van der Esch, is an executive in the non-profit and public sectors, a policy expert and author, and we discuss her book, "Leading Our Way: How Women Are Re-Defining Leadership". She is currently the Managing Director of a large international foundation working across 40+ countries to build a world with zero exclusion, zero carbon and zero poverty.

Laura Lucas closes this week's episode with her beautiful song, ‘The Sun Touches Everything’. Laura’s introspective songwriting is delivered by delicate vocals and dreamy instrumentation rooted in a warm, modern take on the indie-folk genre.

And remember, if you'd like to be part of our miniseries, Our Story Of Nature, Christiana and Isabel will be answering your questions in a special episode on Thursday 21 March. Submit your questions now by emailing [email protected] with 'Audience Q&A' in the subject line. You can send your question in writing or as a video or voice note.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Gaia van der Esch, CEO, Author of "Leading Our Way", Policy Expert Website | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn

Leading Our Way: How Women are Re-Defining Leadership, also available on Amazon

MUSIC

Laura Lucas

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234. Farmer Protests

29 februari 2024 | 50 min

233. The Thorny Issue of 1.5C

22 februari 2024 | 72 min

1.5C degrees is back in the news again as the recent Copernicus report reported that the world had exceeded this politically agreed temperature limit for the majority of 2023. But what does this mean? Do we abandon this target and set a new one? Is it still useful to use this as our north star in tackling the effects of man-made climate change? Is now the right time to start a serious conversation about geo-engineering? Join Christiana, Tom and Paul as they grapple with these difficult questions and their wider implications.

Our guest this week is Dr. Michael E. Mann, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth & Environmental Science, and Director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media (PCSSM) at the University of Pennsylvania. He lends us his expertise to discuss the liabilities and implications of breaching the 1.5 degree ceiling, and what his latest legal victory means for the ‘war on science’.

Music comes from Luke Wallace with his song ‘Comeback’. Luke is a songwriter, speaker, choral arranger and environmental champion from the Coast Salish Territory known as Vancouver, Canada.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

The O+O episode with Elizabeth Kolbert where we discuss the possible implications of Geo-Engineering explored in her book ‘Under A White Sky’ can be found here.

GUEST

Dr. Michael E. Mann, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth & Environmental Science, and Director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media (PCSSM) at the University of Pennsylvania Website | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | YouTube

Check out Dr. Mann’s new book, ‘Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth's Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis’

MUSIC

Luke Wallace Website | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube

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232. Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection - Part Three - Living AS Nature

15 februari 2024 | 67 min

This week, Christiana Figueres and her guest co-host Isabel Cavelier Adarve introduce the third and final episode in their mini-series, Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection.

In this episode, Living As Nature, co-hosts and a stellar cast of guests use the pandemic as their jumping off point to unpack how a moment of physical separation, from each other and the natural world, became a strange chrysalis to stronger and deeper interconnections.

Contributors from across many religious and spiritual traditions, including Bayo Akomolafe, public intellectual, and Sister True Dedication,Zen Buddhist monastic teacher join Christiana and Isabel to discuss how developing a sense of reverence and responsibility for the Earth leads to both personal and systemic transformation.

They ask: how can our unprecedented ecological and social crises become an opportunity for the foundation of a new way of relating to each other and to nature? How can we move away from living from nature to living as nature, so that we can grow and flourish?

This episode is part of a series that shines a new light on humanity’s fundamental relationship with the rest of nature as key to responding to the climate crisis and to transitioning into a regenerative future.

Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUESTS

Xiye Bastida, Co-Founder Re-Earth Initiative, Indigenous Wisdom, TIME100Next, UN HLC Ambassador, TED Speaker Website | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | TED

Janine Benyus, Co-Founder Biomimicry 3.8 and Biomimicry Institute Biomimicry Institute | LinkedIn | Twitter

Dr. Lyla June Johnston, Indigenous musician, author, and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages Website | YouTube | Instagram | Facebook

Dr. Bayo Akomolafe, Public Intellectual, Author, Professor and Chief Curator, The Emergence Network Website | Course webpage | LinkedIn | Facebook

Sister True Dedication, Zen Buddhist monastic teacher in Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Village Community

Plum Village

Krista Tippett, award-winning journalist, author and host of On Being podcast

Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

Arturo Escobar, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology

Wolf Martinez, Diné, Lakota, & Spanish. Two Spirit. Speaker, Ceremonialist and practitioner of Ancient Healing Arts. Therapist. Lover. Human Being. LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

Kate Raworth, Author of Doughnut Economics and Co-founder of Doughnut Economics Action Lab

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Dr. Gunhild Anker Stordalen, Founder and Executive Chair of EAT Foundation

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231. Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection - Part Two - Living WITH Nature

13 februari 2024 | 64 min

This week, Christiana Figueres and her guest co-host Isabel Cavelier Adarve introduce the second episode in their mini-series, Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection.

In this episode, Living With Nature, the hosts share a series of conversations with experts from the worlds of food, the economy, energy and design to illuminate how our man-made systems are rooted in a separation from the natural world. You’ll hear insight and fresh ideas from author Kate Raworth, Founder and Executive Chair, EAT Gunhild Stordalen, energy strategist at Rocky Mountain Institute Kingsmill Bond, author of the Earth Transformed: An Untold History, Peter Frankopan and co-founder of Biomimicry, Janine Benyus.

With appropriate outrage, Christiana and guests will explore how the climate crisis, the energy crisis, the inequality crisis and the food crisis all share the same deep root: extractivism based on extrinsic principles. They argue that this extractivism not only depletes the planet—the very soil of the Earth itself—it also depletes our human soul.

With characteristic and bold optimism, Christiana, Isabel and guests will argue that if we can overthrow the tyranny of GDP, invest in harvesting rather than in extraction, and if we design our world mimicking nature’s genius, we might yet create a future where humans and nature thrive in balance.

This episode is part of a series that shines a new light on humanity’s fundamental relationship with the rest of nature as key to responding to the climate crisis and to transitioning into a regenerative future.

Do not miss the third and final episode, Living As Nature, in which Christiana and Isabel invite listeners to contemplate what it will take for each of us to fully awaken to our interconnectedness as, perhaps, the starting point - the foundational stone - without which no new home can be built for a truly regenerative future.

Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUESTS

Arturo Escobar, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology

Kate Raworth, Author of Doughnut Economics and Co-founder of Doughnut Economics Action Lab

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Krista Tippett, award-winning journalist, author and host of On Being podcast Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

Dr. Gunhild Anker Stordalen, Founder and Executive Chair of EAT Foundation

Kingsmill Bond, Energy Strategist at RMI

Janine Benyus, Co-Founder Biomimicry 3.8 and Biomimicry Institute Biomimicry Institute | LinkedIn | Twitter

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230. Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection - Part One - Living FROM Nature

8 februari 2024 | 69 min

This week, Christiana Figueres introduces a new mini-series, Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection. Over three episodes, Christiana and guests will shine a light on our relationship with the rest of nature. Does transforming our connection with the natural world hold the key to transforming our response to the multiple environmental, political and social crises we face?

Christiana’s accompanied on this journey by co-host Isabel Cavelier Adarve. Isabel is a former negotiator for Colombia and co-founder of Mundo Comun.

In Episode 1, Living From Nature, Christiana, Isabel and guests delve deep into the roots of humanity’s separation from nature. They explore moments where cracks may have appeared and widened, including the advent of farming and a particular interpretation of the Book of Genesis. How have certain ideas shaped different cultures’ relationships with the natural world, and what are their consequences? Is our distance from nature related to other forms of separation, like colonialism? How can we nurture and narrate new stories of our relationship with nature to address 21st Century problems?

The best and brightest minds from around the globe contribute to Our Story of Nature, including Peter Frankopan author of the Earth Transformed: An Untold History; Janine Benyus, co-founder of Biomimicry 3.8; Dr Lyla June Johnston, indigenous musician and community organiser; Krista Tippett, award-winning journalist and author Reverend Doctor Augusto Zampini Davies, former adjunct Secretary of the Vatican Dicastery for the Service of Integral Human Development ; Wolf Martinez, Traditional Medicine Person, Guardian and Keeper of the old indigenous ways; Arturo Escobar Professor Emeritus of Anthropology and Xiye Bastida the co-founder of Re-Earth Initiative.

Once listeners have heard about the roots of our rupture from nature, tune in for the second episode of the series - Living With Nature. A stellar cast of experts will join Christiana to explore how our current systems - food, economy, energy, design - have been built on a mindset of extraction and separation. With characteristic optimism, they will give us a glimpse into how these systems, in many places, are planting the seeds for a more regenerative future.

The third and final episode, Living as Nature, is where the science of awe meets spirituality. Christiana and Isabel invite listeners to contemplate what it will take for each of us to fully awaken to our interconnectedness as the starting point - the foundational stone - without which no new home can be built for a truly regenerative future.

Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUESTS

Peter Frankopan, Professor of Global History at Oxford University Website | Twitter | LinkedIn

Janine Benyus, Co-Founder Biomimicry 3.8 and Biomimicry Institute Biomimicry Institute | LinkedIn | Twitter

Krista Tippett, award-winning journalist, author and host of On Being podcast Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

Reverend Doctor Augusto Zampini Davies

Arturo Escobar, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology

Xiye Bastida, Co-Founder Re-Earth Initiative, Indigenous Wisdom, TIME100Next, UN HLC Ambassador, TED Speaker Website | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | TED

Dr. Lyla June Johnston, Indigenous musician, author, and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages Website | YouTube | Instagram | Facebook

Wolf Martinez, Diné, Lakota, & Spanish. Two Spirit. Speaker, Ceremonialist and practitioner of Ancient Healing Arts. Therapist. Lover. Human Being. LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook

Sister True Dedication, Zen Buddhist monastic teacher in Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Village Community

Plum Village

Dr. Bayo Akomolafe, Public Intellectual, Author, Professor and Chief Curator, The Emergence Network Website | Course webpage | LinkedIn | Facebook

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‘An Invitation to Sit Together For Peace’

229. 2024: The Year Of Democracy (Or Not)

1 februari 2024 | 50 min

228. Climate Conversations: A Holiday Survival Guide [December Mailbag]

18 december 2023 | 54 min

227. COP28 Panel: Turning Sustainability Values into Action

15 december 2023 | 25 min

226. COP28: The Outcome Is A Signal

14 december 2023 | 18 min

225. COP28: The Snapshot vs The Movie

11 december 2023 | 20 min

224. COP28: Later Is Too Late

8 december 2023 | 38 min

223. COP28: Will The Word ‘Out’ Be In?

4 december 2023 | 58 min

222. Moments of Truth

29 november 2023 | 60 min

221. TIME100 Climate: Stories of Leadership

23 november 2023 | 56 min

Presenting: ‘On Being with Krista Tippett’

17 november 2023 | 81 min

220. Inequality Is At The Root!

9 november 2023 | 39 min

219. Ice Down the Spine and Courage in the Heart

2 november 2023 | 81 min

This week, the team talk positive tipping points, grapple with the comms coming out of the pre-COP meets and send our tributes to dearly loved colleagues who have recently passed.

With pre COP 28 meetings currently taking place, the host team discuss the mixed messaging that is currently making headlines and anticipate what this might mean for how the future of fossil fuels will appear in the final text at COP 28.

Tim Lenton, the founding Director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter and Chair in Climate Change and Earth System Science is our guest this week, and with Tom unable to make the interview, our brilliant colleague from Global Optimism, Freya Newman, joins Christiana and Paul to interview her former professor. With negative tipping points racing along their own ‘S curve’, the team ask Tim Lenton whether there are signs that the positive tipping points can win this race and avert the worst impacts of the climate crisis (pssst, the answer is it looks very, very possible).

Music this week comes from Jemima Coulter with their beautiful song ‘[flowers]’.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Professor Tim Lenton, Founding Director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter and Chair in Climate Change and Earth System Science

Website | LinkedIn

Here is the website on Global Tipping points where you can find resources and info on all that Tim and the team discuss. Spread the word!

FREYA NEWMAN

PETE BETTS

We are all very saddened by the news of the death of Pete Betts, a former guest on Outrage + Optimism and an all round incredible human being. Please check out the episode here,

to hear the man himself and his lifetime dedication to working for a better, fairer sustainable future.

DAVID ATTENBOROUGH

As mentioned by Tom here is one of the first O+O episodes recorded and it is one worth revisiting to hear the exchange between Christiana and David as they talk about the Garden of Eden and Garden of Intention. Truly worth a revisit.

MUSICAL GUEST

Jemima Coulter

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PLUM VILLAGE

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218. October Mailbag

26 oktober 2023 | 59 min

This week it is over to you, our listeners as the hosts strive to answer all of your challenging and wonderful questions: Should we be having children? How long have we got? How do international conflicts impact climate? And so many more…

Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to send through a question to our hosts, you made this a very special episode. Apologies if we weren’t able to get to yours, please do go and engage with us on social media and share your thoughts.

We also have an edited interview between our friend and colleague Sue Reid and the incredible Elizabeth Maruma Mrema, a Tanzanian biodiversity leader and lawyer, speaking in her capacity as Co-Chair of The Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures (TNFD) on the incredible launch of TNFD’s final framework/recommendations at Climate Week NYC on 18 Sept and the urgent need to shake up current paradigms that still pervasively treat nature as disposable and limitless.

Music this week comes from Passiflora and their wonderful track ‘Bosque’.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Latin America and Caribbean Climate Week

Links to the report mentioned by the hosts at the top of the episode called: Latin American successes in the energy transition can be found here

Taskforce on Nature-Related Financial Disclosures

Elizabeth Maruma Mrema, Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations and Deputy Executive Director of the UN Environment Programme and Co-Chair of The Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures (TNFD)

Here is the link to the published TNFD framework.

MUSIC GUEST

Passiflora

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217. Greening Shipping

19 oktober 2023 | 58 min

Ahoy! With Christiana at the helm this week we’re raising our anchor and charting a course into the fascinating and complex world of greening shipping.

The shipping industry can feel removed from our daily lives. With images of huge cargo ships criss-crossing the oceans, distant foreign ports and international regulatory bodies with unfamiliar acronyms like the IMO or the GMF, you might even ask yourself: why should I care?

We’ll hear how 90% of what we consume, wear and use in our homes comes to us via a ship. And how the predominant use of dirty fossil fuels means that the shipping industry currently contributes around 3% of the world’s global CO2 - that’s the same as the whole of Germany or Japan’s emissions.

But not any more! Christiana and her crew of shipping experts take you on a journey to explore how the shipping industry is at the forefront of an exciting transition to Net Zero, and will explain how greening the maritime sector could help us address the climate emergency.

Christiana has been a long and passionate advocate for reform in the shipping industry. With the help of guests such as AP Moller-Maersk’s Senior Vice President, Morten Christiansen; Alejandra Teran from Costa Rica’s Sailcargo; Eric Leveridge, Campaign Lead at Ship it Zero; Ambassador Albon Ishoda, Royal Marshall Islands Presidential Special Envoy for Maritime Decarbonisation, Dr Lucy Gilliam, Seas at Risk, Bo Cerup-Simonsen, CEO, MaerskMcKinney Moller Centre, Cleo Bierneza, Third Officer at Swire Shipping and many more, this deep dive episode will hope to leave no doubt in our listeners’ minds as to why shipping’s path to Net Zero is integral to our current and future life on the planet.

How these ships are fuelled now and in the future, why the recent International Maritime Organisation decision was history in the making, how the people working on these ships are treated to ensure a just transition as well as the role that we, the consumers, can play, are all questions that Christiana and her guests tackle during this special episode.

Do let us know what you think!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUESTS

Alejandra Terán, Chief Purpose Marketing Officer at Sailcargo

LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram

Ambassador Albon Ishoda, Royal Marshall Islands Presidential Special Envoy for Maritime Decarbonisation

Bo Cerup-Simonsen, Chief Executive Officer of Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping

LinkedIn | LinkedIn for Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping

Christine Loh, Chief Development Strategist, Institute for the Environment at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology

Cleo Bierneza, Third Officer at Swire Shipping

Eric Leveridge, Campaign Lead at Ship It Zero

Ingrid Irigoyen, Associate Director, Ocean and Climate, Aspen Institute Energy and Environment Program & President and CEO, Zero Emission Maritime Buyers Alliance

Dr Lucy Gilliam, Senior Shipping Policy Officer at Seas at Risk

Seas At Risk

Morten Bo Christiansen, Senior Vice President, Head of Energy Transition at A.P. Moller - Maersk

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Video Series: Uncertainty and Possibility—Meeting the Climate Future - Upaya Zen Center

Presenting: 'Uncertainty and Possibility - Meeting the Climate Future'

12 oktober 2023 | 98 min

What happens when three wise women get together? Just an incredible series of new, mind-blowing conversations, that’s all.

In this week’s episode we are THRILLED to bring you an edited version of the AMAZING ten-part video series Uncertainty and Possibility -Meeting the Climate Future featuring Buddhist teacher, Roshi Joan Halifax; writer/activist Rebecca Solnit and of course, our own remarkable Christiana Figueres.

Recorded by our friends at Upaya Zen Centre earlier this year while the three women were together in person, please do be sure to check out the full series in its entirety!

During the course of these discussions, Roshi Joan, Rebecca and Christiana go deep on topics ranging from personal reflections on climate grief, to how to be present to the current climate reality, to how we can rewrite the current narrative of the anthropocene. We guarantee you will leave this conversations with a deepened understanding of the transformation, both personal and systemic, required to meet the challenges of the climate crisis.

Huge thanks goes to the team at Upaya who recorded these interviews and kindly allowed us use of their audio, and to Roshi Joan Halifax, Rebecca Solnit and Christiana for the rich conversation.

If the episode leaves you wanting to hear more from these wonderful women, you can download the previous Outrage + Optimisms episodes where Roshi Joan Halifax

and Rebecca Solnit feature as guests.

Please remember to send in your questions for the Listener mailbag episode we are doing at the end of October. Either submit through our social media channels or email: [email protected]

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Upaya Zen Centre

Website | Instagram | Facebook

Ten-part Video Series

GUESTS

Roshi Joan Halifax

Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | flickr

Rebecca Solnit

Rebecca’s organisation Not Too Late co-founded with Thelma Young Lutunatabua.

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216. Drilled, Baby, Drilled!

5 oktober 2023 | 73 min

This week on O+O, our hosts, Christiana, Tom and Paul delve into the latest International Energy Agency report which sounds the death knell on the fossil fuel era and welcome award-winning investigative journalist Amy Westervelt onto the show.

With the IEA’s publication of their World Energy Outlook report, Christiana, Tom and Paul assess what this means for the fossil fuel industry, national governments and the companies continuing to push the exponential growth of the renewable energy markets. The IEA report still offers us an opportunity, a very, very slim opportunity to act unitedly and decisively to keep within our global targets - can we heed this advice before the door finally closes on this opportunity?

We’re extremely excited to welcome Amy Westervelt as our guest this week. Amy is an award-winning investigative print and audio journalist, loved by our team for her true crime climate podcast Drilled. Join us as she shares her journey to launching Drilled and Critical Frequency, her podcast production company, and why she’s dedicating her time to unearth the nefarious actions of a few PR firms that enable incumbents to keep a stake in the climate crisis narrative.

Music this week comes from Nick Nuttall and his debut album, Just Because Some Bad Wind Blows, which draws on rich life experiences between his eccentric upbringing in the North of England, to his nearly two decades of work at the UN fighting the climate and environmental crises across the globe.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

GUEST

Amy Westervelt, Investigative climate journalist and Head of Drilled Media

THINK TANKS Story: Meet the Shadowy Global Network Vilifying Climate Protesters

MUSIC

Nick Nuttall

Website | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter

Album ‘Just Because Some Bad Wind blows’ can be purchased here, or here

Watch the music video for ‘Just Because Some Bad Wind Blows’

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215. Hungry For Alternatives

28 september 2023 | 73 min

This week on O+O: UK Net Zero rollbacks, the rise of global populism and why we should all be hungry for (protein) alternatives. Pull up a chair to the table and tuck in to this week's episode.

With the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s recent announcement that he plans to ‘roll back’ Net Zero commitments, coupled with the disturbing rise of global populist politicians choosing to hack the climate crisis conversation, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson, ask: why, and why now, are these leaders choosing to act against the scientific consensus and hit the brakes on progress? Tune in this week to hear the hosts’ lively and insightful analysis on this worrying trend in global politics.

Alternative proteins is the topic of this week’s guest interview. Bruce Friedrich from the Good Food Institute is interviewed by the unflappable Andy Jarvis from theBezos Earth Fund, using his expertise in this area to dig into this incredibly important and hugely influential issue.

Bruce, Andy and the hosts unpacked the outsized positive impact that alternative proteins can have not only on tackling the climate crisis, but also our health, animal well-being and nature restoration. He also issued a stark warning with regards to the huge quantities of antibiotics we feed our animals and the current and future on human health:

“The UK government said the threat to the human race from antimicrobial resistance is more certain than the threat from climate change. It's already killing 1.3 million people per year. It's predicted to be killing 10 million people per year by 2050, according to an article in The Lancet last year. Seventy percent of medically relevant antibiotics are being fed to farm animals. Now, former head of the World Health Organization, Margaret Chan, has said the end of working antibiotics is the end of modern medicine.” * Yikes.

Music this week comes from Colombian Psychedelic band ‘BALTHVS’ and their track ‘Eclipse Solar’.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

* Bruce quotes an article published in Jan 2022 by The Lancet: Global burden of bacterial antimicrobial resistance in 2019: a systematic analysis. This article in turn quotes the UK’s AMR review’s final paper:Tackling Drug-Resistant Infections Globally: Final report and recommendations (2016) which is the original source of the figures Bruce uses in the quote above.

PLUM VILLAGE

Zen and the Art of Saving the Planet course.

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GUESTS

Bruce Friedrich, President and Founder of The Good Food Institute

The Good Food Institute

Andy Jarvis, Director of Future of Food at Bezos Earth Fund

MUSIC

BALTHVS

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214. Climate Week NYC: Love Is The Answer

21 september 2023 | 63 min

213. September Stocktake

14 september 2023 | 51 min

212. We're BACK! With Al Gore

7 september 2023 | 81 min

211. You’ve Got Questions, We’ve Got Answers

28 juli 2023 | 65 min

210. A Jolt From Complacency

26 juli 2023 | 43 min

209. Powered By Nature

20 juli 2023 | 54 min

208. TED Countdown: The Future is Exponential

13 juli 2023 | 37 min

207. Five Times Faster

6 juli 2023 | 46 min

206. Space, Time and The Ultimate Dimension!

1 juli 2023 | 111 min

205. How To Talk About Climate Change So People Will Listen

22 juni 2023 | 51 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week our hosts discuss the slow progress made at the negotiations in Bonn which concluded last week and how the perceived lack of direction has led many in the climate community to feel anxious about how successful talks will be in Dubai later in the year. Christiana also touches on the New World Bank report, Detox Development: Repurposing Environmentally Harmful Subsidies, highlighting the trillions of dollars wasted on subsidies for agriculture, fishing and fossil fuels that could be used to help address climate change instead of harming people and the planet. With Tom off to the Global Citizen Power Our Planet Live event on Thursday, the hosts discuss their hopes for a more positive outcome from The Summit for a New Global Financing Pact also happening in Paris this week. Look out for the anticipated momentum to gather pace on Mia Mottley’s Bridgetown Agenda for the much needed reform of international finance. Our special interview this week is with the brilliant communications expert John Marshall, CEO of Potential Energy Coalition, to discuss climate change’s marketing problem and how we can solve it. Essential listening and the team here all agree we could learn a lot from John’s insights! For anyone wanting to learn more about the important work of Potential Energy, click here. Our fabulous music this week comes from Hazel Mei and her song Golden Chains, another finalist from this year's Environmental Music Prize. Check out her links below. With Clay away, huge thanks to Airaphon who mixed and sound edited the podcast this week. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES John Marshall, Chairman and CEO of Potential Energy Coalition LinkedIn | TED Bio Potential Energy Coalition Website | LinkedIn | Instagram Hazel Mei, Environmental Music Prize Finalist Instagram | Facebook | YouTube For anyone wanting to watch the absurd Fox news interview with Power the Future founder, Daniel Turner, here is the link. Learn more about the Paris Agreement. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn

204. LIVE Q+A on Lifelines VS Deadlines

15 juni 2023 | 52 min

203. Tomfoolery! Red Herrings!

8 juni 2023 | 75 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. With anti-ESG action hitting the headlines across the ‘puddle’ (as Christiana would say), our hosts begin this week by walking us through the origins of the anti-ESG movement which we covered in our Season 6 episode: ESG: Facts are not Political, before moving us on to explore the current spate of legal cases being brought by certain Republican groups, designed to intimidate members of net zero alliances.

We were very fortunate to speak to Maurits Dolmans, attorney and partner of Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP, and a rising star of the Net Zero Lawyers Alliance, who helped us understand the baseless allegations and coordinated propaganda employed by Republican groups (such as Consumers’ Research and the State Financial Officers Foundation) to delay and obfuscate meaningful climate action, while putting voters’ pensions, investments and livelihoods at risk. Expect high octane outrage from this episode!

Relief in the form of our talented musical number comes this week from Constant Follower and their track “The Merry Dancers on TV”. Check out their links below. Also, don't forget we’re hosting a live Q+A session on Monday 12 June with Paul, Fiona, Dylan, Tom and Christiana to cover all those burning questions unearthed by the Lifelines vs Deadlines mini-series. Details about how to register your place can be found here. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES

Don’t miss our LIVE Online Podcast Recording & Q+A on Monday, June 12, 2023. Click the link to register and save your spot!

Letter from 23 Attorney Generals to the Net Zero Insurers Allianz that Paul mentioned in the episode.

Maurits Dolmans

Constant Follower

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Check out UK-based Charity - Help Musicians

202. No Matter What, We're Going Too Slow

2 juni 2023 | 53 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week, Christiana, Tom and Paul debrief on Paul’s recent mini series and discuss the news that insurers are leaving the Net Zero Insurance Alliance after the ESG backlash in the U.S. There is a big week coming up, with the Bonn climate intersessionals in preparation for the COP28 in Dubai later in the year. Finally, they discuss the devastating news of heat waves in India and Asia, and the fact that the World Meteorological Organization has said that there is a 66% chance that the world will exceed the 1.5 °C threshold in at least one of the next five years.

We introduce you to this year's Environmental Music Prize which aims to amplify the voices of artists who inspire action for climate and conservation. We feature three of the finalists; Meraki Mae, SheisArjuna and Sunfruits.

Also, don't forget we’re hosting a live Q+A session on the 12th June with Paul, Fiona, Dylan, Tom and Christiana to cover all those burning questions unearthed by the Lifelines vs Deadlines mini-series. Details about how to register your place can be found here. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES

Don’t miss our LIVE Online Podcast Recording & Q+A - June 12, 2023. Click the link to register and save your spot!

Environmental Music Prize 2023

***Go to EnvironmentalMusicPrize.com to VOTE for your favorite 3 finalists by Sunday, June 4th!***

Edwina Floch

Founder, The Environmental Music Prize

Paper: Universal Ownership in Practice: A Practical Investment Framework for Asset Owners

Finalists Featured: Meraki Mae - Warrior Instagram | Facebook | Spotify SheisArjuna - Vessel Instagram | Facebook | Spotify Sunfruits - End of The World Instagram | Facebook | Spotify Learn more about the Paris Agreement. Credits: Exec Producer: Sarah Thomas Producer/Sound Design/Editor: Clay Carnill Production Coordinator: Mandy Clark Social Media Manager: Kam-Mei Chak Communications Manager: Zoe Tcholak-Antitch Operations Manager: Katie Bradford It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn

201. Lifelines VS Deadlines: The Need For Science Based Policy (Part Two)

25 maj 2023 | 75 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

Last week Paul Dickinson, Dylan Tanner and our guests explored some of the good, the bad, and the downright dark side of government action on climate policy, or perhaps that should be inaction.

This week, with the help of co-host Fiona Macklin, part two of Lifelines vs Deadlines will go beyond the politics and speak to industry and city leaders, lawyers and youth activists on the need for collective support around regulatory lifelines if the deadlines, climate science has set for us are to be met. Expert guests including:

Mark Watts, Executive Director at C40 Cities

Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission

Paul Polman, Business leader, campaigner and co-author of ‘Net Positive: how courageous companies thrive by giving more than they take’

Georgina Beasley, Secretary General at Net Zero Lawyers Alliance

Joshua Amponsem, Founder, Green Africa Youth Organization and Co-Director - Youth Climate Justice Fund

Shyla Raghav, Co-Founder, Chief Portfolio and Partnership Officer at TIME CO2

Dr Ellen Quigley, Special Adviser (Responsible Investment) to the Chief Financial Officer and Principal Research Associate (Climate Risk & Sustainable Finance) at University of Cambridge

Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website. NOTES AND RESOURCES

Paul Dickinson, Founder Chair at CDP

Fiona Macklin, Senior Adviser, Groundswell at Global Optimism LinkedIn Dylan Tanner, Executive Director at InfluenceMap Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Mark Watt, Executive Director at C40 Cities Twitter | Instagram Lord Adair Turner, Chair of the Energy Transitions Commission Twitter

Energy Transitions Commission Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Polman, Business leader, campaigner and co-author of ‘Net Positive: how courageous companies thrive by giving more than they take’ Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Georgina Beasley, Secretary General at Net Zero Lawyers Alliance LinkedIn Net Zero Lawyers Alliance LinkedIn Joshua Amponsem, Founder, Green Africa Youth Organization and Co-Director - Youth Climate Justice Fund Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram Shyla Raghav, Co-Founder, Chief Portfolio and Partnership Officer at TIME CO2 Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | InstagramTIME and TIME CO2 Twitter | LinkedIn | Website Dr Ellen Quigley, Special Adviser (Responsible Investment) to the Chief Financial Officer and Principal Research Associate (Climate Risk & Sustainable Finance) at University of Cambridge LinkedIn

Paper: Universal Ownership and the Polycrisis: Social Norms, Feedback Loops, and the Double HermeneuticCredits: Series Producer: Catherine Harte Exec Producer: Sarah Thomas Producer/Sound Design/Editor: Clay Carnill Production Coordinator: Mandy Clark Social Media Manager: Kam-Mei Chak Communications Manager: Zoe Tcholak-Antitch Operations Manager: Katie Bradford

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200. Lifelines VS Deadlines: The Need For Science Based Policy (Part One)

18 maj 2023 | 83 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week Paul Dickinson introduces the first of his two-part series on Lifelines vs Deadlines: The Need for Science Based Policy by delving into some of the big, underlying and often nefarious causes currently blocking the implementation of meaningful science-based policy which would accelerate our collective transition to a net zero world. Paul kicks off the episode by outlining the enormity of the net zero target that businesses have set themselves in line with scientific targets and expresses his belief (which is share by many) that these goals are not achievable without meaningful government policy to derisk, regulate, set a level playing field and penalise persistent offenders. Why then, instead of governments swooping in with these regulatory lifelines, are we seeing at best antipathy or at worst active disinformation campaigns to block regulation that might aid businesses to make the necessary transitions to align with Net Zero strategies and investments? What are the forces at play? Why aren't governments stepping up to the challenge? These are a few of the questions Paul and Dylan will be exploring over Part One of this mini series with a range of expert guests including:

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse
Naomi Oreskes
Amita Chaudhury
Steve Waygood
Chris Skidmore MP

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Dylan Tanner, InfluenceMap Website | Twitter | LinkedIn Senator Sheldon Whitehouse Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Naomi Oreskes Twitter | LinkedIn Amita Chaudhury LinkedInAIA Group Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn Steve Waygood Twitter | LinkedIn Aviva Investors LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube Chris Skidmore MP Twitter Credits: Series Producer: Catherine Harte Exec Producer: Sarah Thomas Producer/Sound Design/Editor: Clay Carnill Production Coordinator: Mandy Clark Social Media Manager: Kam-Mei Chak Communications Manager: Zoe Tcholak-Antitch Operations Manager: Katie Bradford It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Please follow us on social media! Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn

199. Climate and Nature: One and The Same

11 maj 2023 | 73 min

Bonus: From Action to Empathy to Impact

8 maj 2023 | 22 min

198. Dancing on Two Dancefloors

4 maj 2023 | 24 min

197. What If Our Best Times Are Ahead Of Us?

27 april 2023 | 56 min

Welcome to another bumper episode of Outrage + Optimism!

This week we kick off with a rather triumphant Paul Dickinson revelling in the news that Fox News personality, Tucker Carlson, has parted ways with the corporation. First David Malpass, now Tucker Carlson... We can’t help but wonder who else features on Paul’s mysterious list? Don’t worry Tom, you are quite safe. For now…

Christiana, Tom and Paul cover other big news in the US including Biden’s re-election bid; a White House commitment to put $1 billion into the Green Climate Fund; the announcement of the launch of Carbon Management Challenge; and an anticipated Biden vs Trump showdown. The recent G7, IMF and World Bank gatherings also come under the hosts scrutiny.

Our interview this week is with two formidable and fantastic women: (Mama) Mary Robinson (Chair of the Elders) and Hafsat Abiola, (President, Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative), who together have launched Project Dandelion, an incredible initiative that has grown out of the Connected Women Leaders network.

Finally, we play a brief clip featuring Mary Robinson taken from a short film entitled How Do We Get the World Off Fossil Fuels Quickly and Fairly? This film, recently made and released by our fantastic friends and partners over at TED Countdown serves as the second installment of their brilliant TED Countdown Dilemma Series. Be sure to watch the many varied viewpoints offered by an impressive line-up of guests here.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Mary Robinson, Chair of The Elders

Instagram | Facebook | Website | Twitter | YouTube

Hafsat Abiola, President, Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative

Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative

Connected Women Leaders (CWL) and Project Dandelion

How Do We Get the World Off Fossil Fuels Quickly and Fairly

TED Countdown

Website | Instagram | Twitter

WATCH: TED Countdown Dilemma Series

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Prince? Tzeporah? Shredding? —-> It will all make sense.

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Environmental Music Prize

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196. Earth Day Special: LIVE Q+A on Momentum vs Perfection

21 april 2023 | 56 min

195. A Better Future Emerging

6 april 2023 | 75 min

194. Making a Difference

30 mars 2023 | 64 min

193. Momentum VS Perfection: The Biggest Question in Climate Right Now? (Part Two)

23 mars 2023 | 84 min

Welcome back to part two of the mini-series Momentum vs Perfection!

This week Tom Rivett-Carnac and Fiona McRaith deepen their exploration of the tensions in the climate movement outlined in episode one, and look to see how we might begin to move past the current impasse to accelerate action in this decisive decade.

Journey with Tom, Fiona and their guests as they seek to answer the burning questions that they hope might unlock a trajectory to collaborative, joyful action. Some of these questions include:

Is a rebuilding of trust and understanding among the different actors key?
What part does the ‘moveable middle’ play on the spectrum of momentum and perfection.
How do we ensure inclusivity and engagement of those whose voices are not currently represented in the wider movement?
How do these divisions present in the corporate world where the sense of urgency is well embedded but transition to action is hesitant?
What role can impartial actors and data play in pushing forward the momentum and perfection agendas?
Can the capitalist spirit ever be used as a force to accelerate change as long as it is rooted in good intention?
Is connection and personal relationships key to building the sense of common purpose and approach we need now?

Helping Tom and Fiona to answer these questions is an incredible line-up of guest speakers:

Justin Forsyth, Co-Founder Count Us In, a radical collaboration of business, faith, sport, and civil society to inspire a billion people to take climate action.
Farhana Yamin, Lawyer/Author/Activist & Keynote Speaker. Farhana is an internationally recognized environmental lawyer, climate change and development policy expert. She works part time at the Doc Society coordinating the Climate Reframe Project which seeks to amplify the voice of climate activists and experts from racialized minorities in the UK environment movement.
Peter Bakker, President & CEO WBCSD, the global CEO-led community of the world’s leading sustainable businesses working collectively to accelerate the system transformations needed for a net zero, nature positive, and equitable future.
Sister True Dedication, Zen Buddhist monastic teacher in Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Village Community
Prof Helen Pankhurst CBE. CARE International, MMU, UOS. Senior Advisor at international humanitarian agency CARE International, women’s rights activist, and the direct descendant of Emmeline Pankhurst and Sylvia Pankhurst, both leaders in the suffragette movement

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Learn more about the Paris Agreement.

Fiona McRaith, Manager, Engagement & Delivery and Special Assistant to the President & CEO, Bezos Earth Fund

Justin Forsyth

LinkedIn | Twitter Count Us In

Farhana Yamin

Peter Bakker

WBCSD – World Business Council for Sustainable Development

Sister True Dedication

Plum Village

Helen Pankhurst, women’s rights activist and Senior Advisor, CARE International

CARE International

Twitter | YouTube

Learn more about Pankhursts’s great-grandmother Emmeline Pankhurst and grandmother Sylvia Pankhurst, both leaders in the suffragette movement.

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192. Momentum VS Perfection: The Biggest Question in Climate Right Now? (Part One)

16 mars 2023 | 89 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

This week Tom Rivett-Carnac introduces the first of his two-part series on Momentum vs Perfection by looking at the different theories of change within the climate movement and asking if and how they can co-exist to drive the level of scale and action needed in this decisive decade.

He is joined on this complex and emotive journey by guest co-host Fiona McRaith, Manager of Engagement & Delivery and Special Assistant to the President & CEO at climate philanthropy fund Bezos Earth Fund. Fiona brings a (significantly younger) Gen Z perspective to this thought-provoking discussion.

Our co-hosts speak with a series of esteemed guests on this timely and important question, including:

Helen Pankhurst, Senior Advisor at international humanitarian agency CARE International, women’s rights activist, and the direct descendant of Emmeline Pankhurst and Sylvia Pankhurst, both leaders in the suffragette movement
Author, educator, environmentalist, and Co-Founder of international environmental organization 350.org, Bill McKibben
Environmental activist and Co-Founder of global environmental movement Extinction Rebellion, Gail Bradbrook
Jerome Foster II, Co-founder of Waic Up and youngest member of the White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council
Director of mission-driven consulting firm Reos Partners, Adam Kahane
Previous Director of Strategy for the Cabinet Office for COP 26 (the United Nations’ annual climate conference) Charles (Charlie) Ogilvie

Don’t miss Part One of this incredible and timely conversation, including insights from previous movements, generational collaboration, the value of civil disobedience, the role of data and measurement, and whether agreement between sides is necessary for advancement.

And be sure to look out for the final episode of this mini-series next week, in which our co-hosts, with the help of their guests, will hopefully draw some conclusions to help guide us in these crucial years.

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191. The Stories of Women are Precious

9 mars 2023 | 54 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

This week, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson interrupt their previously scheduled programming一the launch of the O+O miniseries discussed last week一to celebrate International Women’s Day (recognized annually on March 8) with CEO & Leadership Activist Fabian Dattner. The team also covers big news about our oceans’ future and closes with music from Child Seat.

Tom starts with the news that after nearly 20 years, members of the United Nations have finally agreed on the United Nations High Seas Treaty, an international framework to protect biodiversity in international waters. It’s a massive achievement that protects the migratory routes of some of our most iconic species and demonstrates significant multilateral cooperation.

Oh, and negotiations were led by Rena Lee, Singapore’s Ambassador for Oceans and Law of the Sea Issues and Special Envoy of the Minister for Foreign Affairs一another great reason to celebrate International Women’s Day.

On a related note, Christiana references a disturbing statistic from a report prepared by GWL Voices for Change and Inclusion, an advocacy group of 62 current and former senior women leaders, that women have held just 12% of top positions at 33 of the largest multilateral institutions since 1945. Clearly, we still have a ways to go in the pursuit of gender equality.

Next, the trio welcomes CEO & Leadership Activist and the founder of the global leadership consultancy the Dattner Group, Fabian Dattner. The group discusses Dattner’s work at the nexus of leadership, support for women, and STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics). While it may sound like an unconventional combination, Dattner explains how it all came together一initially in a dream一and later in her Homeward Bound initiative. It is, our co-hosts agree, an unassailable mix of what our world desperately needs and could use more of.

Later, Dattner brings up her trip to Antarctica and how the concept of success is as dangerous as the concept of failure. For many women, Dattner explains, success can be framed as an elusive ideal. She counsels that if you aren’t willing to fail, there’s nothing you can achieve because success is mostly a string of failures. These are just some of the topics from the group’s lively exchange!

Finally, the episode closes with the track “Burning” from indie rock powerhouse Child Seat.

You won’t want to miss this one!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Find out more about the United Nations High Seas Treaty.

Download the report from GWL, Numbers Matter: To Fix the multilateral system start by including women.

Fabian Dattner

Learn More about the Dattner Group, the Compass Leadership Program for Women, and Homeward Bound.

Here’s the 20023 Edelman Annual Trust Barometer referenced in the episode.

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190. Presenting: Coliving Conversations - Shared Living & the Climate Emergency

6 mars 2023 | 52 min

189. We Are in Listening Mode

2 mars 2023 | 48 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

This week, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the amazing reviews they’ve received on the podcast and take the opportunity to thank listeners for participating with us in trying to save our planet. The team also announces an upcoming special project they’ve been working on and chats about the nomination of Ajay Banga as World Bank President. A frightening new study on the accelerating rates of extinction is also discussed, and there’s music from Bailen.

Paul starts with highlights from the results of a listener feedback survey. First, a whopping 87% of respondents said they’d taken action on climate change since listening to the podcast, which includes sharing the podcast一a key part of our mission一and for which we’re deeply grateful. Plus, only 43% of those listening work in the climate space. That means we’re breaking out of the climate bubble and bringing people outside of climate into the conversation. “Astonishing!” declares Christiana. Wait until you hear the rest!

Next, Tom introduces a fresh theme on O+O related to personal projects each of the co-hosts will work on individually and bring to the podcast. Over the next few weeks, Tom will begin the series on different approaches to change一momentum and perfection. He’ll explore whether they can work together, and if so, how? Exciting stuff is on the way!

In the following segment, our co-hosts weigh in on the World Bank presidential nomination of Ajay Banga, previously President and CEO of MasterCard. They agree he’s a hopeful choice for, among many other things, bringing climate issues back to the World Bank, which stands in contrast to the positions held by outgoing president David Malpass, a climate denier.

Finally, the trio discusses the alarming new study by lead author Dr. Yuangeng Huang of the China University of Geosciences on the steady destruction of biodiversity and how it’s likely to suddenly tip over into total ecosystem collapse. All agree the study didn’t get the coverage it should have, and that it’s critical we’re focused now on strategies and capital allocations to protect and reverse habitat destruction. Climate won’t matter if this doesn’t get done.

Again, thank you for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully to our listeners’ survey and to help us improve the podcast.

And before you leave please don’t miss the beautiful three-part family harmonies of Bailen on their moving ballad “Eyelashes.”

Correction: We would like to apologise for the mispronunciation of Dr Yuangeng Huang's name during the episode.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Find out more about Ajay Banga, the U.S. nomination to lead the World Bank.

Here is The Guardian’s coverage of Dr. Yuangeng Huang’s study on ecosystem collapse.

Here is Dr. Yuangeng Huang’s study itself.

More on Elizabeth Kolbert’s The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History referenced in the episode.

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188. The Path to Sustainability is Equity

23 februari 2023 | 60 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson interview climate leaders Sandrine Dixson-Declève, Co-President of global issues think tank the Club of Rome (the Club), and Johan Rockström, Joint Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (Potsdam).

Our esteemed guests discuss the 50th anniversary of the Club’s groundbreaking report on the implications of continued worldwide expansion, “Limits to Growth” (Limits), and their recently published collaborative report “Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity (Earth For All).”

Serving as both a sort of update to “Limits,” and a new solutions manual, “Earth For All” goes deep into the interrelationships between global stress points, the consequential scenarios that could lay ahead of us, and the policy recommendations we need to save our future.

It’s a fascinating conversation that covers planetary boundary science, dynamic systems modeling, the social tension index, and whether we can reach aspirational and equitable goals for humanity within our environmental boundaries. Importantly, we explore whether a planetary solution is possible without addressing systemic inequity.

Of course, be sure to stick around for music this week from brand new father/son duo Emrys + Clay.

Don’t miss a minute of this compelling episode!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Sandrine Dixson-Declève, Co-President of the Club of Rome

Explore The Club of Rome and the original landmark report (including a free download), “Limits to Growth.” An updated version is available here.

Johan Rockström, Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Listen to a previous episode featuring Rockström about the race to zero.

Learn about the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

Read more or get your own copy of “Earth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity.”

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Emrys + Clay

You can find more of Clay and Emrys on Clay’s Patreon.

Clay has played in bands before. They are:

Claslan | Flint Eastwood

Clay Carnill

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Weekend Rewind: Our Conversation with Nicola Sturgeon

19 februari 2023 | 21 min

187. THIS is the Rainy Day

16 februari 2023 | 78 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the monstrous profits made by Big Oil last year, how at least one fossil fuel firm plans to invest its gains, and what it all means for the climate agenda going forward. They also speak to Avinash Persaud (Avi), Special Envoy to the Prime Minister of Barbados on Investment and Financial Services and creator of the 2022 Bridgetown Initiative, and we have music from gifted musician Scotty Grand.

The team opens with the astounding report that BP, Chevron, Equinor, ExxonMobil, Shell, and TotalEnergies together made more than $200 billion in profits in 2022. What’s even more shocking? BP followed with an announcement that in the interests of “energy security,” it’s scaling back its 2030 emissions reductions targets from 40% to 25%. Let’s just say the trio doesn’t mince words in response. Outrage indeed!

Next, Avi Persaud outlines his work on the 2022 Bridgetown Initiative with Prime Minister of Barbados, Mia Mottley. While climate change impacts us all, it does so unevenly. Those who suffer disproportionately have the narrowest access to capital support. Can our current economic system address this problem? Persaud leads a fascinating discussion on the power of global financeーwhen deployed creativelyーto drive extraordinary changemaking. Find out how callable capital, international reserve currency, and other key levers could meet the significant systemic challenges in front of us today.

Finally, we have music from the one and only Scotty Grand. He’s served as Creative Director, Keyboardist, and MC for Grammy-nominated artists Jordin Sparks, the Jonas Brothers, and fellow pianist Alicia Keys, among many other A-listers. He’s also the great-nephew of legendary gospel singer Mahalia Jacksonーand Christiana’s neighbor!

You won’t want to miss a minute of this substantive and thrilling episode!

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Avinash Persaud, Special Envoy to the Prime Minister of Barbados on Investment and Financial Services

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Scotty Grand

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186. The Breakthrough Effect

9 februari 2023 | 65 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss US President Joe Biden’s State of the Union address, a possible green race to the top across the G7 nations, and how to identify positive economic tipping points with Kelly Levin, Co-Director of the Systems Change Lab and Chief of Science, Data and Systems Change for the Bezos Earth Fund, which provides grants to support the climate and nature.

The team agrees that United States politics, as witnessed through the lens of the annual State of the Union speech, seems like a slugfest, with jabs from both sides but no winner. Still, they admire Biden’s multiple references to climate change as a global security issue affecting vulnerable people一rather than more political drama. Also worth discussing: Could Biden have a chance at winning reelection in 2024? The trio weighs in.

Next, Kelly Levin discusses the Breakthrough Effect, a groundbreaking report on how to trigger a cascade of tipping points to accelerate the net zero transition. She outlines the three super leverage points that could prompt the “tipping of the tipping points” to bring about planet-saving climate action. Electric vehicles (EVs), green ammonia, and alternative proteins play a role.

The co-hosts contend this is a welcome concept一that if we can trigger the right leverage points, we can cause a global cascade of positive climate change. From there, we can go from a linear to exponential transformation. It’s almost a relief to think it’s possible, especially in the face of grinding, slow change that seemingly won’t be fast enough to save the planet. You won’t want to miss this fascinating conversation!

Finally, alt-pop singer-songwriter Panteon closes the episode with the beautiful acoustic track “Archipelago.”

See you next week!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Explore more about the Systems Change Lab

To find out more about the Climate Party, visit their website. Or contact them on: [email protected] Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

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Panteon

Check out Panteon’s new single - ‘Anyone Someone’

Yvonne from Panteon is in Encanto!

We were a finalist for the AICA Award (International Association for Environmental Communication)! Check out the work they are doing here on their website.

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185. Welcome to 2023

2 februari 2023 | 57 min

Happy New Year!

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

After a well-spent hiatus, the team returns with the first episode of what we hope to be an amazing year documenting climate progress! We know from previous years that many people discover the podcast over our break, so If you're a new listener, we're thrilled you’re here!

In today’s episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson catch up on what’s been happening in climate over the last few weeksーand what’s to come in 2023.

First up, the team chats about their break and the importance of taking time to reflect and cultivate equanimity, self-care, and inner strength. And speaking of inner strength, what about the brave decision of New Zealand’s Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, to leave office after five remarkable years? Our co-hosts weigh in with some thought-provoking insights.

There’s talk of Dr. Sultan Al Jaber, the controversial pick to be the president of COP28—this year’s UN climate conference, which is set to be held in Dubai. Al Jaber is the Minister for Industry and Advanced Technology and Managing Director and Group CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC). Check out Christiana’s Op-Ed on Al Jaber in The New Statesman.

This year will also mark the first global stocktake (GST), the process designed to assess the world’s progress toward achieving the purpose behind the landmark Paris Agreement.

Oh, and Paul’s “friend” wrote a poem about Christianaーyou’ll have to listen to find out what rhymes with “emissions.”

Finally, we leave you this week with the beautifully haunting track “Oh Mother” from Sive.

Bye for now!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Tom recommends Stolen Focus by Johann Hari.

Learn more about ChatGPT.

Read Christiana’s Op-Ed about Dr. Sultan Al Japer in The New Statesman.

Learn more about COP28.

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Sive

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184. Last Episode of 2022: Strong Back, Soft Front

15 december 2022 | 69 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

In the final episode of 2022, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson look back at what transpired this year, what went well, what didn't, and what to expect in 2023. Plus, they have a conversation with spiritual leader Roshi Joan Halifax and highlight music from Windser.

Reflecting on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the team addresses the profound tragedy of the war but also how it proved to be a watershed moment for exposing the vulnerability of fossil fuel markets. It appears the weaponization of energy has driven the world closer toward decarbonization.

While 2022 was undoubtedly marked by tragedy, there was some good news, including three landmark legislative wins from the United States that contain meaningful provisions to address climate change. They also hailed the recent announcement from the U.S. Department of Energy about an unexpected breakthrough: Scientists at the National Ignition Facility (NIF) in California for the first time successfully generated more energy from a fusion reaction than what was required to produce it. And in another positive note, biodiversity is also getting a much-needed boost from the 15th Conference of the Parties (COP15) to the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD).

Next, guest Roshi Joan Halifax provides a nourishing dose of inspiration with her thoughts on her lifelong spiritual journey, social and environmental engagement, and cultivating resilience in the face of increased uncertainty.

It’s the type of motivational close to the year we needed. As we all take stock, we’re reminded that we couldn’t do this without your support, and we thank you from the depths of our hearts for joining us on this journey to better understand our ability to come together to affect transformation in the world.

Also, we wish environmental activist, Buddhist scholar, and dear friend Joanna Macy, a swift recovery as she recuperates from pneumonia in the hospital. You can find more about Macy and her work in the show notes below.

Finally, we’ll leave you with the dazzling sounds of California singer/songwriter Windser.

Have a wonderful holiday season, and we’ll see you in January 2023.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Roshi Joan Halifax

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Here’s more on the Inflation Reduction Act 2022, the 2022 Budget Resolution And Reconciliation: How We Will Build Back Better, and the CHIPS Act of 2022.

Find out more about fusion energy from the National Ignition Facility (NIF).

Listen to environmental activist, Buddhist scholar, and deep ecologist Joanna Macy on Outrage! + Optimism. Explore her celebrated book Active Hope.

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Windser

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Watch the video for “Drift Away”

Stream the new EP - “Where The Redwoods Meet The Sea”

Watch Windser perform with Macklemore on Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Also - Check out Windser’s AudioTree Live Session

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183. And Then a HERO Comes Along

13 december 2022 | 35 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.

Who are our heroes? How do we select them? In addition to parents, families, partners, friends, comic book characters, or others on your list, you might want to add today’s guests. In this episode, co-host Christiana Figueres speaks with climate activists Mauricio Porras and Anuna De Wever about HERO一a climate tech startup on a mission to empower people to accelerate change in the world.

Co-founder Porras and advisory board member De Wever share the inspiring story behind this extraordinary organization and platform一which enables subscribers to provide critical financial support to those on the frontlines of climate action. Links on how to subscribe are below!

As climate activists, they are all too familiar with how draining such work can be. Most activists, in fact, must hold down other jobs to support themselves. This often becomes exhausting, and untenable一which can negatively impact the campaign’s momentum.

Find out how HERO creatively addresses this very real need for financial support while sharing highlights of activist journeys and connecting climate “mobilizers” (their term) with broader communities worldwide. It’s an uplifting conversation that touches on tech, finance, innovation, communication, climate, and some of the true heroes of the climate movement.

You won’t want to miss it! As the holiday season approaches please consider supporting the activist community by subscribing to a policy circle of your choice.

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HERO

Mauricio Porras

Anuna De Wever

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182. COP15: Nothing Without Nature!

8 december 2022 | 68 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this jam-packed episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson catch up on news from the Earthshot Prize awards ceremony in Boston, the United Nations Biodiversity Conference (COP 15) in Montréal, insights from Conservation International’s Dr. M. Sanjayan, and music from Boyish.

Christiana opens by recounting her time at the award ceremony for the Earthshot Prize一the world’s most prestigious environmental award. Highlights include the “green carpet” with such A-listers as Prince William, Billie Eilish, Annie Lennox, and David Beckham, among others, £5 million in prizes, and the extraordinary winners themselves. Christiana was actually brought to tears.

The team also previews the UN Biodiversity Conference COP15, which started Dec. 7. Conference dynamics are bound to be interesting since it’s being chaired by the Chinese delegation (a holdover from the cancellation of the in-person conference in 2020) but hosted by the Canadians in Montréal. Listen for all the details on “30 by 30,” the significance of biodiversity for global GDP, and more.

Later, Conservation International CEO Dr. M Sanjayan shares his thoughts on the connection between climate and nature, why the nature agenda is一counterintuitively一running behind the climate agenda, and the forthcoming nature economy.

We close the episode with music from the indie duo, Boyish. They’ve amassed more than 15 million streams across their catalog, received praise from publications including Billboard, Paper, Office Magazine, and Pigeons and Planes, and were the recipient of the 2021 LGBTQ+ Emerging Artist Award.

Enjoy their beautifully evocative track, “mom i think i'm gay”

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NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Catch up with The Earthshot Prize 2022

Learn more about the UN Biodiversity Conference: COP15 in Montréal

Check out our sister-podcast, ‘The Way Out Is In’

Sanjayan, Ph.D.

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Boyish Music Videos - Smithereens | Legs | Congratulations | Superstar

BEL - Paul BigDawg (with Boyish)

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181. A U.S. Special: Making The Irresistible Irreversible!

1 december 2022 | 77 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac go deep into U.S. domestic energy policy with guests U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm and White House Deputy National Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi.

First up, the critical topic of energy justice: Granholm updates the team on the Justice40 Initiative, in which an unprecedented 40 percent of federal energy investments are earmarked for disadvantaged and historically underserved communities that are overburdened by pollution. The plans, which seek to reckon with deep-seated inequities, are ambitious, exciting, and groundbreaking.

Speaking of action, Tom and Christiana’s next guest is optimist and White House Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi. He contends the U.S. is on a positive linear trajectory and accelerating exponentiallyーnot just in clean energy or emissions reduction but in terms of the political economy backing these actions. Get the scoop on how federal agencies and departments are pushing forward together.

We finish the episode with the beautiful track “Until the Day” by Los Angeles-based singer-songwriter BEL. Additional details are included in the show notes below.

You won’t want to miss a second of this electrifying episode!

Listeners, please take a minute to complete our listener survey. Your feedback is important to us, and we’re deeply grateful for your ongoing support. Thank you!

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Jennifer M. Granholm, Secretary U.S. Department of Energy.

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Find out more about the Justice40 Initiative

Ali Zaidi, White House Deputy National Climate Advisor

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Learn about the National Climate Task Force

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180. TED Countdown Dilemma Series: Is There a Role for Carbon Credits in the Transition to a Fair, Net-Zero Future?

29 november 2022 | 45 min

179. The Best of Times, The Worst of Times

24 november 2022 | 78 min

178. COP27: Why the Money Flow is Slow

17 november 2022 | 61 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson share their reflections on COP27. We also have music from South Africa’s Daily Maverick, featuring the brilliant vocalist, Anneli Kamfer.

Tom is back from Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, where he spent several days at COP27, the UN’s annual climate conference. The trio discusses whether the international commitment to contain global warming to 1.5°C一now that the target seems to be moving out of reach一is as robust as it should be. Is conference messaging, such as “[We are] resolved to pursue efforts,” as strong as it should be?

Next, there’s good and bad news on “Loss and Damage.” This refers to the responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer countries suffering disproportionately from its consequences. Hear the breakdown and where the group stands on the progress of this critical issue.

Other COP27 discussions cover balancing collective global action with internal political realities, strides in reversing deforestation, and Tom’s birthday!

You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation!

Before we go to the music, hear our incredible ‘pass the mic’ segment where Zoe, our roving reporter, spent an afternoon capturing diverse voices from COP 27 delegates in the halls and corridors of the conference.

Finally, we finish with our musical selection: “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction,” by the Daily Maverick, featuring the celebrated vocalist Anneli Kamfer.

Enjoy the show!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

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Explore more about COP27.

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Listen to the full track “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction” from the Daily Maverick featuring acclaimed vocalist, Anneli Kamfer.

Anneli Kamfer

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Here’s a well-known version of Eve of Destruction, written by 19-year-old PF Sloan in 1965 and recorded soon after by Barry McGuire.

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177. Future of Food: Live from COP27

16 november 2022 | 43 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this special episode we bring you the conclusion of our celebrated Future of Food series, recorded live from COP 27. Outrage + Optimism host Tom Rivett-Carnac pulls together an incredible line up of leaders to explore how food might act as the connecting force that engages communities and individuals and brings us all together in a united global movement.

First, Tom takes the opportunity to catch up Per Heggenes, the CEO of The IKEA Foundation, to hear why food is of huge importance to his organisation's work and why Per believes food needs to stay top of the global agenda.

Next, Tom convenes a fascinating and diverse group of guests in a unique and quirky setting: a blue shipping container repurposed in collaboration with Museum for the United Nations UN Live team and The IKEA Foundation using Global We portals, to bring the voices of people on the frontline of climate change, directly into the heart of climate conversations at COP27 via full length screens, set up in diverse global locations.

Listen to the fascinating contributions from Tom's IRL guests Paul Polman, Business Leader, Former CEO of Unilever and co-author of Net Positive; Liesbet Steer, Executive Director of the Education Commission; and Sophia Kianni climate activist, Executive Director of Climate Cardinals and the youngest member on the United Nations Secretary-General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change; and our Global We portal leaders from Kigali Sarah Kenkuyu, Program Manager at GiveDirectly Rwanda; Kristian Gasaro, activist, Greenpreneur and photographer; and Tanignigui Siriki Soro, a writer and community leader from the Ivory Coast.

The resulting conversation is as diverse and as fascinating as our guests themselves.

Enjoy the show!

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Per Heggenes

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Liesbet Steer

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Sarah Kenkuyu

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Kristian Gasaro

Tanignigui Siriki Soro

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176. COP27: Loss and Damage in the Spotlight

10 november 2022 | 74 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

First up we have some exclusive news... *drumroll*... We are excited to announce that Outrage + Optimism is now part of the TED Audio Collective! This news represents an exciting continuation of the collaboration between our organizations, which began with our strategic partnership with TED Countdown.

The TED Audio Collective is a curated collection of podcasts sharing ideas on a range of subjects, including psychology, business, and design. Be sure to check out some of the other podcasts in the collective!

Back to this special COP 27 episode... co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson talk long-distance with co-host Tom Rivett-Carnac, who’s on the ground at the COP27 UN climate conference in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt. Also, Christiana interviews Simon Stiell, the latest Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and the podcast announces a new partnership with TED Audio Collective.

First, Tom calls in from COP27, where the top item on the agenda is “Loss and Damage,” which refers to the historical responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer and developing countries suffering the brunt of its many devastating effects. What is fair, really?

Next, Christiana discusses getting things done, accountability, and the power of meditation with UNFCCC Secretary Simon Stiell. They expand on COP27 and the role of oil and gas companies in the conference. You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation.

The team closes with their reflections on the midterm elections in the United States (votes are still being counted) and what a divided Congress means for President Biden’s climate agenda. And finally, producer Clay brings us the goods on O+O’s new partnership with the TED Audio Collective and today’s tune from British guitar-goddess and artist, Anna Calvi: “Don’t Beat the Girl Out of My Boy.”

Enjoy the show!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE

Also, explore more about COP27

It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof!

Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective

Want to join our Book Club? Read Jon Alexander’s ‘CITIZENS’ and email your question from the book to [email protected] to be invited to an invite-only session with Jon and us!

Go listen to Abigael Kima’s coverage of COP27 on the Hali Hewa Podcast

GUEST

Simon Stiell

MUSIC

Anna Calvi

Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube

Be sure to listen to ‘Indies or Paradise’ -Clay

Listen to the full album ‘HUNTER’

Peaky Blinders fans - Listen to ‘Tommy EP’

175. COP27: A Little Less Conversation, A Lot More (Climate) Action

3 november 2022 | 52 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism!

Co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson catch up on the whirlwind political news from the last few weeks. They cover the defeat of Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro by former president (and prisoner) Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva aka “Lula,” the upcoming COP27, and the U.S. midterm elections.

First up, Brazil. The news of Lula’s presidential win is a victory for the planet. Deforestation skyrocketed under Bolsonaro but declined under Lula’s first stint as president. However, it won’t be easy to reverse Bolsanaro’s trends. Lula doesn’t have a Congressional majority, and Bolsonaro’s party just picked up a few more legislative seats. What will this mean for Brazil’s regeneration initiatives?

Next, the team discusses COP27, the upcoming UN climate conference. This year’s theme will be implementation rather than high-stakes, multi-governmental negotiation. But that has our trio wondering about what that means for the private sector? With $20 trillion in income, they’re essential to hitting net zero targets. What role will they play?

On to U.S. and U.K. politics: Republicans一with their climate denial stance一seem poised to win both legislative houses in the upcoming American midterm elections. And across the pond, the U.K. continues to flounder in its ongoing leadership crisis. How does this affect the U.S. and U.K. climate agendas, wealthy western oil companies, or climate finance commitments to developing countries?

You won’t want to miss the team’s insights!

Finally, enjoy the amazing British-Asian fusion sound of Nikhil Beats with an exclusive performance of his song 'Wisdom ft. Eclipse'.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Learn more about COP27

Participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab – REGISTER HERE

Nikhil Beats

Get Tickets to Nikhil’s Headlining Show in London on Nov 16!

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Watch Sister True Dedication’s Ted Talk

Listen to Sister True Dedication on 10 Percent Happier with Dan Harris

Bonus. Hali Hewa: Gender and the Climate Crisis with Sofanit Mesfin

28 oktober 2022 | 27 min

Welcome to the fifth episode of the Hali Hewa Podcast.

‘Hali Hewa’ is a Swahili term for ‘climate ' and this podcast series is hosted and produced by Kenyan climate activist, Abigael Kima.

In the lead up to the COP27 international climate negotiations, which are now just a month away, Abigael interviews African climate change experts and activists on the issues that matter most to them. Guests sign off each episode by sharing what they feel the COP27 conference must deliver on.

Our guest today is Sofanit Mesfin. Sofanit is a gender specialist working as the Regional Gender and Social Inclusion Coordinator at Ripple Effect, formerly known as ‘Send A Cow’. Ripple Effect works with smallholder farmers to equip them with knowledge and skills enabling them to improve their livelihoods and thrive. Farmers working alongside Ripple Effect learn more, grow more and sell more. They can feed their families nutritious food, and by having a surplus to sell can invest in their farms, send their children to school and build sustainable agri-businesses.

In this episode, Sofanit takes us through her journey working with women farmers in different African countries to deliver training programs that help them adapt to a changing climate. She explains how and why women and children are disproportionately affected by the impacts of climate change, and what Ripple Effect is doing to ease the burden on women, children and their households. Sofanit also explains how other stakeholders can come on board to support this kind of work, ensuring that more and more communities get support to build resilience and secure a healthy future for themselves and their children.

Sofanit signs off the show by sharing what she wants the upcoming COP27 climate conference in Egypt to deliver in November.

Enjoy the show!

Learn more about Ripple Effect

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[Note: I recently had the privilege to visit women farmers in Busia and Bungoma in the Western Region of Kenya. I learned a lot from them about methods to improve food production, and how these practices allowed them to better their lives and that of their families. Follow the Hali Hewa Podcast on social media to see these interviews]

174. These are Powerful Times

27 oktober 2022 | 70 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism!

In this episode, co-host Christiana Figueres is joined by an all-female cast. You’ll hear from climate activist Abigael (Abbie) Kima from Kenya about her recent visit with His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, and Isabel Cavelier, Colombian climate activist and recent recipient of the prestigious Climate Breakthrough Award, an initiative of the Climate Breakthrough Project.

We also feature music from the British indie rock duo, Penelope Isles.

First, Abbie Kima brings Christiana up to date with her podcast, the Hali Hewa Podcast一“Hali ya Hewa” is Swahili for “climate”一covering indigenous people, women, and climate emergencies from the African perspective. Kima also recounts her extraordinary (collective) meeting with the Dalai Lama at the Mind & Life Institute in Dharamsala. She discusses his teachings about how oneness across all people is innately linked to global climate action.

Next, Christiana chats with Isabel Cavelier about her fascinating climate journey. Isabel touches on her early work helping develop the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs一the United Nations framework for global peace and prosperity一her climate action organization Transforma, and her work in the climate movement today. They also touch on Cavelier’s Climate Breakthrough Award, one of the field's most distinguished honors.

Finally, we close the episode with indie rock band Penelope Isles's new release, “Underwater Record Store.”

See you next week!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Shoutout to our very own Freya Newman on her research being published in Nature Communications!

Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab?

REGISTER HERE

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GUESTS

Abigael Kima

LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook| YouTube | Instagram

Listen to Abbie’s Hali Hewa Podcast

Isabel Cavelier Adarve

LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook

Learn more about Isabel’s award from Climate Breakthrough

Transforma

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MUSIC

Penelope Isles

Clay’s Recommendation: Check out their LIVE KEXP and AudioTree Performances!

173. The Way Out Is In: Benefitting from a Spiritual Practice

20 oktober 2022 | 108 min

172. Dinner with Satish Kumar

18 oktober 2022 | 46 min

171. ESG: Facts Are Not Political

13 oktober 2022 | 63 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism!

As always, we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the anti-ESG (environmental, social, and governance) movement in the U.S. and its broader implications for the role of corporate institutions in an increasingly climate-sensitive world.

You’ll hear from Jesse Coleman, Senior Researcher with investigative watchdog and journalism project Documented. Jesse and his team have uncovered some astounding research on the sobering reality behind the ESG pushback.

You won’t want to miss a second of this important and intriguing discussion!

Also, enjoy the outro track, entitled “Frying Paint,” from guest artist, Archive. Details, including a link to the brilliant video, are in the show notes below.

See you next time!

CORRECTION: Our host Paul Dickinson mentions in the show that Paul Watchman produced a fiduciary duty report for Linklaters. The fiduciary duties report Paul Watchman was responsible for was from Freshfields....not Linklaters.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Jesse Coleman

Twitter | Documented

Learn more about Jesse’s research on Documented

State Financial Officers Foundation

Read a joint report on ExxonMobil by Jesse (Documented) and Emily Atkin (HEATED)

Huge, huge shout out to Jason Schwartz and Kathleen Brophy at The Sunrise Project for their incredible work bringing this anti-ESG movement to our attention, and for all their help and generosity.

The Sunrise Project

Texas Public Policy Foundation

Music This Week: Archive

Twitter | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Music

Tom + Clay recommend Archive’s video for “Frying Paint”

Clay’s Pick of The Week - Archive’s “Shouting Within”

Be sure to check out “The Way Out Is In” - our sister podcast with Plum Village!

170. Australia is Back!

6 oktober 2022 | 76 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism.

As always, we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson are joined by guest co-host and friend, Dean Bialek. Dean has worked on climate change for years in his native Australia, which is especially relevant to today’s episode.

The team spends some time Down Under一well, proverbially speaking一conversing with Aussies-extraordinaire Zali Steggall, Australia’s most renown international alpine skier, Teal Movement founder, and current independent member of the Australian Parliament for Warringah; and Mike Cannon-Brookes, climate activist and Co-Founder and Co-CEO of software juggernaut Atlassian Corporation Plc.

Our guests weigh in on Australia’s new government, its audacious climate bill, and how a nation chock-full of renewable resources (but historically low political will) could be about to pivot to climate superpower status.

We also have an update on the Environmental Music Prize from Edwina Floch, Founder of The Environmental Music Prize as well as a music track from the Winner of the Prize, King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard.

You won’t want to miss this inspiring podcast episode一It’s definitely ace!

NOTES AND RESOURCES

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

Thank you to our guest co-host, Dean Bialek!

Dean Bialek

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Thank you to our guests this week!

Zali Steggall | Member Australian Parliament for Warringah

Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube | Website

Mike Cannon-Brookes | Co-founder and Co-CEO of Atlassian

Atlassian

Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

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Congratulations to our musical guest and winner of the 1st Environmental Music Prize, King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard!

King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard

Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | BandCamp | Website

Go watch their Prize-Winning Music Video “If Not Now, Then When” on YouTube

**Note from Clay** - It’s f***ing awesome

Listen more from the Environmental Music Prize and sign up for their newsletter to stay tuned for next year's prize!

Edwina Floch

Environmental Music Prize

Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | YouTube

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Check out Tom’s appearance on the Coliving Conversations podcast.

Learn more about Australia’s Climate Change Bill 2022

Learn more about the Australia Asia Powerlink by Sun Cable

169. Do The Work

29 september 2022 | 73 min

Welcome to this week’s episode - It’s a packed agenda. Our hosts cover everything from nature breakdown in the UK, the threat of nuclear war in Europe, the downfall of a World Bank President and plenty in-between. We also hear from the incredible Helen Clarkson and Catherine McKenna on everything to do with greenwashing, carbon tax and the power of straight-talking on climate. For those of you working in the corporate world and grappling with climate action, this is an episode you do not want to miss.

Helen Clarkson, CEO of the Climate Group which convenies Climate Week NYC, shares a fascinating insight at the disconnect happening within companies on the road to net zero, who are now having to turn their commitments into real action.

And that brings us to the fascinating conversation on greenwashing with Catherine McKenna, Chair of something with an extraordinarily long and very difficult to say without reading your notes name: the UN’s High-Level Expert Group on the Net-Zero Emissions Commitments of Non-State Entities. We talk about how, while we’re all outraged - rightly - by greenwashing, we still need to lift up the folks who are doing the real work and not lump everyone in the same group.

And there’s more: on the balance between integrity and momentum, supply chain efficiencies, understanding risk, a price on carbon, disclosure and what blockchain has to do with all of that.

We wrap up with a gorgeous song from Finnegan Tui. Your ears will thank you for staying on to listen.

Notes and Resources

Thank you to our guests this week:

Helen Clarkson | Chief Executive Office at the Climate Group

Climate Group

Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram

Catch all of last week’s Climate Week NYC On Demand

Catherine McKenna | Chair of H-LEG - the UN’s High-Level Expert Group on the Net-Zero Emissions Commitments of Non-State Entities.

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Finnegan Tui!

Finnegan Tui

Patreon | Bandcamp

Watch the ‘ZEPHYR’ Audio-Visual Journey on YouTube

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Congratulations to Global Optimism’s very own Freya Newman on her Masters Resarch being published in Nature Communications!

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For more on WBG President David Malpass’s controversial remarks, start here.

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@OutrageOptimism is where we are online!

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168. From Climate Week NYC: No Other Option But To Solve This

22 september 2022 | 57 min

In an event as rare as the triple Jovian eclipse on Jupiter, Christiana, Tom and Paul recorded this episode together! As in IRL together! Physically at the same table!

Having graduated from their humble beginnings which saw them huddled together around a mic in a San Francisco bathroom (not ‘toilet’ as the Brits call it, conjuring up all kinds of odd visions for our US audiences), they are now broadcasting to you listeners from Tom’s ‘cozy’ New York hotel room, bringing us all the news and highlights from the first half of Climate Week NYC.

Christiana shares that alongside all the useful conversations that will be happening this week as the community grapples with solutions to tackling the climate crisis, the need for a gut belief that we CAN solve this crisis is critical. A belief she is sensing is worryingly absent…

Tom’s prediction for the next mega trend in the climate movement and philanthropy is in the form of strategic communications and political economy building.

Paul meanwhile is inspired by the role cities can play in implementing much needed governance and policy without the obstacles that are present in high level government.

While our special guest this week, the Financial Times columnist, Martin Wolf might not self-identify as an optimist, his conversation with Christiana, Tom and Paul offers a fascinating analysis of the economic, corporate and political forces that we find ourselves at the mercy of, the reasons behind the rise of populism and what he thinks it will take for us to really collectively wake up to this crisis.

And of course another incredible song from our new friend, Tommy WÁ. Stick around to the end to hear an exclusive performance from him!

Notes and Resources

Thank you to our phone guest this week, Martin Wolf!

Martin Wolf | Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Times

Be sure to check out Martin’s Column in The Financial Times

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Tommy WÁ!

Tommy WÁ

Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | LinkTree | YouTube

Check out Tommy’s Live from NYC 3 Song Concert on YouTube

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The EarthShot Prize Innovation Summit 2022 was a major highlight this week. Christiana moderated!

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Your inside scoop to Climate Week NYC - @OutrageOptimism

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167. We Like To Call It Piñata Syndrome

15 september 2022 | 72 min

Welcome back to a brand new season of Outrage + Optimism! We have missed you, friends!

This summer break in the Global North was yet another massive climate summer with much to talk about.

We kick off this jam-packed episode acknowledging the sad passing of Queen Elizabeth II with personal reflections from the hosts Christiana, Tom and Paul as well as a touching conversation with Henry Dallal, a photographer who was regularly commissioned to capture Queen Elizabeth during the last few decades of her reign.

Christiana offers us a unique insight from Gastech, the world's largest gas, LNG, hydrogen, and energy event that saw lone-climate-advocate Christiana deliver a strong speech to 40,000 executives on their role and moral duty to tackle emissions in their industry. A speech that is not to be missed and you can watch the full version here.

The hosts turn their attention to the key events of the summer that offered the global community both hope and sorrow as the world watched with keen optimism as the implications of Biden’s IRA legislation unfolded, Australia successfully passed a key climate bill through government, and India, Australia and Egypt submitted new NDCs ahead of UNGA and COP 27.

With heavy hearts however Christiana, Tom and Paul considered the devastating impact of the Pakistan floods that left a third of the country under water, mass crop failure, many lives lost including children, and vital infrastructure destroyed. The very real impacts of climate change are already hitting so many people in the global south, that issues of loss and damage and financial aid from the global north must surely form part of the discussions between world leaders in this year’s big climate events.

We will of course be here throughout the rest of the season with the help of our very special guests, to bring you all the insights and analysis from these big events.

Notes and Resources

Thank you to our phone guest this week, Henry Dallal!

Henry Dallal | Photographer

Website | Instagram

Be sure to check out Henry Dallal’s Book, ‘Addressing Climate Change’

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Gabriela Eva!

Gabriela Eva

Check out Gabriela’s lyric video for ‘Pulling Faces In The Wind’

Be sure to spin ‘Feng Shui’ this weekend!

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There’s a solar-powered boombox in a park in Queens, NYC that plays LL Cool J’s music from noon to 5p every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and yes it’s 100% real.

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Listen to Tom’s appearance on our sister-podcast, ‘The Way Out Is In’!

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We tweet and stuff - @OutrageOptimism

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166. No Mud, No Lotuses: The Last Episode of Season 5

29 juli 2022 | 95 min

165. Moral Imagination, Patient Capital and Averting Collective Climate Suicide with Jacqueline Novogratz

21 juli 2022 | 67 min

Crippling heat, fire, and death in the U.K., Europe, and the U.S. are bringing the climate emergency to our literal doorsteps. At the same time, political antipathy一in the lack of climate depth among Britain’s leadership candidates or the collapse of sweeping climate legislation in the U.S., for example一seems to be adding fuel to the fire.

Co-hosts Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson, and especially Christiana Figueres, are outraged! They explore what this means for the climate agenda going forward and, of course, how compassion, inclusion, and optimism must be part of the solution. Will deaths in the streets of Madrid and 40+°C (102°F) temps in the alleys of London compel us to wake up and see what’s happening?

Next, how do we use the tools of capitalism without being controlled by them?

In this segment the gang explores the differences between traditional and enlightened capital and their connections to poverty, moral imagination, and climate – joined by visionary entrepreneur, philanthropist, and best-selling author Jacqueline Novogratz.

Novogratz, described by Forbes as one of the World’s 100 Greatest Living Business Minds (2017), is the head of the global nonprofit impact investment fund Acumen.

Novogratz explains, “What is the problem we’re here to solve, and how do we use the tools we have to solve them? Investment has always been [one of those] tools…but we see investment as a means, not as an end in itself.”

Listen in as they deconstruct patient capital, off-grid solar, outrage over ongoing divisiveness, and how moral imagination as corporate strategy might just work a little magic for the future.

NOTES AND RESOURCES

Check out more of Gabrielle Sey’s Music here, and be sure to spin her cut of “Patterns” and add it to your summer playlist!

Learn more about Acumen and its inspirational founder, Jacqueline Novogratz.

You Can buy Novogratz’s 2020 work “Manifesto for a Moral Revolution: Practices to Build a Better World” here, or in the US, here.

You can buy Novogratz’s bestseller, “The Blue Sweater: Bridging the Gap between Rich and Poor,” here, or in the US, here.

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

164. The Supreme Court's EPA Ruling: Is the Crisis of Climate a Crisis of Democracy?

15 juli 2022 | 72 min

163. Boris and Net Zero: What Happens Next?

12 juli 2022 | 56 min

162. 'Our Time On Earth': Radical Visions for The Future by Arts & Ecology

7 juli 2022 | 57 min

Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism. As always, we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future.

In this special episode, the Outrage + Optimism crew has teamed up with the Dartington Arts School to bring you the first episode of the school’s intriguing new podcast, Arts and Ecology. The podcast explores the nexus between art, ecology, and culture and the role creatives can play in tackling the climate crisis.

In this inaugural episode, Arts and Ecology co-host Natasha Rivett-Carnac and O + O Executive Producer Sarah Thomas discuss “Our Time on Earth,” a major multimedia exhibition currently running at the Barbican in London with co-curator Caroline Till. Till is the co-founder of FRANKLINTILL, a research agency exploring design, colour, and material innovation for a sustainable future.

You’ll also hear from two teams who collaborated on exhibition pieces. Chippindale, CEO of the award-winning digital retail agency, Holition, and George Monbiot, writer, Guardian columnist and environmental activist bring us The World Beneath Our Feet. The piece was inspired by “The Wonders of Soil,” the first chapter in Monbiot’s latest book, Regenesis: Feeding the World Without Devouring the Planet.

Next, we hear from Anab Jain and Jon Ardern, the co-founders of Superflux, an award-winning experimental design agency creating visceral experiences that bring future possibilities into the present. Their exhibition piece, a lavish multi-species banquet, is entitled, Refuge for Resurgence.

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Notes and Resources

To explore more about the interconnection between art, ecology, and culture, subscribe to the Dartington Arts School’s podcast Arts and Ecology.

Natasha Rivett-Carnac, curator, Arts and Ecology, Dartington School of Arts

The exhibit Our Time on Earth, created by Caroline Till and Kate Franklin, will be at the Barbican in London from Thursday, 5 May to Monday, 29 Aug 2022.

Caroline Till is Co-Founder of FRANKLINTILL. Her book, co-written with business partner and co-curator, Kate Franklin, is Radical Matter: Rethinking Materials for a Sustainable Future and can be purchased here or in the US, here.

Jonathan Chippindale, is CEO of Holition.

You can get George Monbiot’s latest book, Regenesis: Feeding the World Without Devouring the Planet, here. Or in the US, here.

Anab Jain and John Arden are co-founders of Superflux.

You can listen to Jain and Arden’s piece, Window View, accompanying their exhibition piece, Refuge for Resurgence, here.

To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here.

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Thank you to our amazing guests this week!

Dartington Arts School

Caroline Till

Designer | Co-Curator of Our Time on Earth

Website | Instagram

Barbican - ‘Our Time on Earth’

Jonathan Chippindale (Holition)

Website | Instagram | Twitter

George Monbiot

Anab Jain and Jon Arden (Superflux)

161. The Power of Disclosure with CDP’s Paul Simpson

30 juni 2022 | 57 min

160. No Doom for Boomers! Mobilizing a Generation with Bill McKibben

23 juni 2022 | 72 min

ESG is in hot water - Is it just simmering or is it spoiling?

When Elon Musk tweets “ESG is a scam” that “has been weaponized by phony social justice warriors.” and a day later, an HSBC executive says that “climate change isn’t a financial risk that we need to worry about,” and then after that Former Vice President Mike Pence writes an opinion in WSJ that “ESG is elevating left-wing goals over the interests of businesses and their employees”...You start to wonder - What is all this fuss about? And why now?

This week we dig into the future or collapse of ESG as we know it, and is all this attention making ESG better or worse? And later on in the episode Bill McKibben returns to the podcast to talk about his latest venture mobilizing ‘The Greatest Generation’ to take action on Climate Change call Third Act - and his new book, ‘The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon: A Graying American Looks Back at His Suburban Boyhood and Wonders What the Hell Happened. What a title!

And of course, be sure to stick around for an exclusive podcast performance of ‘Leaving Song’ by Max Jury.

Enjoy the show!

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Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!

READ: Could Google’s Carbon Emissions Have Effectively Doubled Overnight?

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Mentioned links from the episode:

READ: The Carbon Bankroll

ACT: ShareAction

ACT: Make My Money Matter

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Thanks to our guest this week, Bill McKibben!

Bill McKibben

Founder | Third Act | 350.org

Third Act

Twitter | Website | Linktree

350.org

NEW: Bill’s New Book - The Flag, The Cross, and The Station Wagon

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Max Jury!

Max Jury

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Keep up with Christiana Figueres online

Tom Rivett-Carnac

Paul Dickinson

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159. How to Feed the World without Devouring the Planet

16 juni 2022 | 64 min

Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet is the title of George Monbiot’s new book and an essential challenge that we explore in this Future of Food episode, with the help of George and three other guests committed to transforming our food system. As the current global food crisis continues to push more and more people to the brink of starvation, join us as we take a deep dive into the root causes of the crisis. Surface with a diverse and exciting range of solutions that could ensure we have a ‘glocal’ diverse food system, and a paradigm shift in the way we produce protein that regenerates our planet and feeds our population.

Our four contributors to this episode are: George Monbiot, celebrated author, activist and environmentalist; Dr Laura Pereira, Associate Professor at the Global Change Institute at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and a researcher at the Stockholm Resilience Centre at Stockholm University in Sweden; Dr Ruchika Singh, Director of Sustainable Landscapes and Restoration at the WRI or World Resources Institute in India; and Josh Tetrick, Co-Founder and CEO of Eat Just Inc. You can find their short biographies and links to their work and media platforms below.

All of our guests were incredible, but a special acknowledgement goes to Ruchika who recorded her interview during the middle of a heat wave in India. It should bring home to us all how climate change is already severely affecting particular regions right now.

A huge thanks as ever to The Ikea Foundation for supporting us with the making of this episode. Please check out their wonderful work using the links below:

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Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now!

The Land Accelerator | World Resources Institute

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Mentioned links from the episode:

George’s mentions:

Solar Foods the precision fermentation company mentioned by George Monbiot who are making food from thin air. Definitely one to watch!

The Land Institute - Perennial Crops - the initiative mentioned by George Monbiot

Tolhurst Organic - The Oxfordshire Farmer doing incredible things with soil mentioned by George Monbiot

Laura’s Mentions

Scaling Out, Scaling Up, Scaling Deep by Michelle Moore. You can read up to 100 articles per month for free on this site if you register.

Ruchika’s Mentions

TerraFund for AFR100

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Thank you to our guests this week:

George Monbiot, Author, Environmentalist and Activist (photo credit Guy Reece)

George Monbiot is an author, Guardian columnist and environmental activist. His best-selling books include Feral: Rewilding the land, sea and human life, Heat: how to stop the planet burning, and Out of the Wreckage: a new politics for an age of crisis. George cowrote the concept album Breaking the Spell of Loneliness with musician Ewan McLennan, and has made a number of viral videos. One of them, adapted from his 2013 TED Talk, How Wolves Change Rivers, has been viewed on YouTube over 40m times. Another, on Natural Climate Solutions, that he co-presented with Greta Thunberg, has been watched over 60m times. George’s latest book, Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet, was published in May 2022.

Website | Twitter | YouTube | TikTok

Dr Laura Pereira, Associate Professor at the Global Change Institute at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and a researcher at the Stockholm Resilience Centre at Stockholm University in Sweden

Dr Laura Pereira is a member of the Seeds of Good Anthropocenes project and leads two current projects, the first is a Formas funded project entitled “Seeding transformative futures for people and nature in Africa ” and the other is an H2020 project in collaboration with EAT called “Foodtrails”. She also works with Guillermo Ortuño Crespo on a small project to realise transformative scenarios for the high seas using the Nature Futures Framework.

Pereira co-ordinates the SRC’s module of the Bosch Stiftung Transformational Leadership Post-doc Academy. She is also actively involved in MSc student supervision and gives a lecture on sustainability transformations as part of the MSc course.

Pereira holds a DPhil in Geography and Environmental Science from the University of Oxford. She completed her BSc (Hons) majoring in Zoology, Ecology and Law at the University of the Witwatersrand and read for an MSc in Nature, Society and Environmental Policy at St Hilda’s College, Oxford.

Dr Ruchika Singh, Director - Sustainable Landscapes and Restoration, WRI India

Dr. Ruchika Singh leads the Sustainable Landscapes and Restoration programme in India. Till January 2019, Ruchika anchored the restoration opportunity assessments for the Landscape Restoration programme at WRI India. Ruchika brings over eighteen years of extensive experience of conducting evidence-based research, programme management, assessments and evaluations related to various aspects of forest, water, tenure, resource rights, landscape management and governance issues, taking into consideration social inclusion and gender, from an interdisciplinary lens.

Ruchika also contributes to Cities4Forests, an initiative focused on helping cities better conserve, manage, and restore inner forests (such as city trees and urban parks), nearby forests (such as green corridors and watersheds) and faraway forests (such as tropical and boreal forests). Ruchika works closely with Kochi (India) to help them maximize benefits from trees and forests for water, air quality, biodiversity, climate, livelihoods and more.

WRI India

Josh Tetrick, co-founder and CEO, Eat Just, Inc.

Josh Tetrick is CEO & co-founder of Eat Just, Inc., a food technology company with a mission to build a healthier, safer and more sustainable food system in our lifetimes. The company's expertise, from functionalizing plant proteins to culturing animal cells, is powered by a world-class team of scientists and chefs spanning more than a dozen research disciplines. Eat Just created America’s fastest-growing egg brand, which is made entirely of plants, and the world’s first-to-market meat made from animal cells instead of slaughtered livestock. Prior to founding Eat Just, Tetrick led a United Nations business initiative in Kenya and worked for both former President Clinton and Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf. As Fulbright Scholar, Tetrick taught schoolchildren in Nigeria and South Africa and is a graduate of Cornell University and the University of Michigan Law School. Tetrick has been named one of Fast Company’s “Most Creative People in Business,” Inc.’s “35 Under 35” and Fortune’s “40 Under 40.” Eat Just has been recognized as one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Companies,” Entrepreneur’s “100 Brilliant Companies,” CNBC’s “Disruptor 50” and a World Economic Forum Technology Pioneer.

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158. The Journey Matters: Ending Fossil Fuel Supply with Tzeporah Berman

9 juni 2022 | 63 min

157. Presenting: ‘Who Cares Wins’ with Lily Cole and Christiana Figueres

6 juni 2022 | 46 min

156. Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua

2 juni 2022 | 53 min

Reactions to the now infamous presentation of the suspended HSBC Head of Responsible Investing, Stuart Kirk, is still a source of considerable outrage here at Outrage + Optimism. Kirk’s presentation entitled "Why investors need not worry about climate risk" peddled such dangerous climate disinformation that it prompted Christiana to refer to it in her brilliant op-ed in Investor Week as one of the most irresponsible public statements we have heard in years. In this week’s episode brace yourself for Paul’s no holds barred account of what he really thinks about Stuart Kirk’s views and hear Christiana expand on why opinions like Kirk’s threaten the emergence of stakeholder capitalism. Tom’s insightful analysis further links the growing movement of incumbents rallying against ‘woke capitalism’ with the corporate disclosure of emissions and climate risk that is about to be regulated in the US and the EU.

Thankfully our main interview this week features a previous, much loved, Outrage + Optimism guest Rebecca Solnit, and the inspirational Thelma Young Lutunatabua whose Not Too Late project offers us the tools to tackle this current wave of disinformation, and provides tangible stories of hope. Hear how the project aims to invite newcomers to the climate movement, as well as providing climate facts and encouragement for people who are already engaged but weary. Listening to these two incredible women speak about Not Too Late ‘rang a bell of truth in our souls’ as Thelma so beautifully puts it in the interview.

Sit back and be sure to enjoy the remarkable track Preacher Man by Mica Millar.

Enjoy the show!

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Not Too Late

Make sure to visit the Not To Late project launched by Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Not So Moral Money? - link to the Business Green article Christiana mentions in the episode that deunks Stuart Kirk's presentation.

On Being podcast episode with Tarana Burke speaking about the need for ‘revolutionary grace’ mentioned by Thelma.

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155. Huge Wins for Future Generations in Australia and Wales with Sophie Howe

26 maj 2022 | 69 min

Finally, some optimism for future generations!

First, in Australia, the massive success of the so-called ‘teal’ female candidates, who are not aligned to either of the major political parties, but have essentially swept to power across a number of states. This, along with long-awaited Labour victories…Does this mean the climate wars are over in Australia? We dialed up Dean Bialek, lead negotiator and legal advisor to the world’s island states (AOSIS) in negotiations that led to the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change and current Head of Policy & International Strategy at CWP Global, to give us a quick update on what this major swing in Australian politics means for climate!

And for our main interview this week, we sit down with Sophie Howe, Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. Her role is linked to the Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act, which requires public bodies in Wales to think about the long-term impact of their decisions. Described by the Big Issue Magazine as one of the UK’s leading Changemakers, her interventions have secured fundamental changes to land use planning policy, major transport schemes and Government policy on housing - ensuring that decisions taken today are fit for the future, and especially future generations in Wales.

And this week a special Outrage + Optimism EXCLUSIVE performance, 'Quémalo' by Kathy Palma (ft. Reyli Barba).

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READ: The Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act

LISTEN: Repsonse to Listener Review - 4 O+O Episodes on Food Systems

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Sophie Howe

Future Generations Commissioner for Wales

The Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales

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And thank you to Dean Bialek for joining us!

Dr Dean Bialek

Head, Policy & International Strategy

CWP Global

CWP Global

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154. African Clean Energy Access: Why Gas Cannot Be The Future Africa Chooses with Rachel Kyte

20 maj 2022 | 59 min

In this episode, we talk about the impacts of living through a global energy crisis while living through a climate crisis.

Inflation is running at 10% in most major economies, the highest in decades. This is driven primarily by the cost of food and energy. And while most of us are aware of higher prices at the pump and on energy bills, today we focus on the hardest place it is hitting: Africa.

Since 2019, 4% of Africans have lost access to affordable energy, undoing a decade of gains. And with a desire in the Global North to get off of Russian Gas, there is higher demand for gas, and therefore pushing more and more people out of the ability to afford it. This week in response, African Ministers made the case for expanding gas production in Africa, amidst a climate crisis.

So that’s the setup for this week’s discussion - we bring in Rachel Kyte, Dean of the Fletcher School at Tufts University to argue the case on how to move forward out of this complicated situation.

And be sure to stick around ‘til the end for a brand new tune from Carmody titled, “Mother.”

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READ: SG António Guterres’ 5 Point Plan on Renewable Energy

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Mentioned links from the episode:

READ: Vanessa Nakate’s Op-Ed in Aljazeera

VOTE: Time is running out to vote! Go to EnvironmentalMusicPrize.com to vote for your favorite 3 songs. Voting ends May 22nd!

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Thanks to our guest this week, Rachel Kyte!

Rachel Kyte

Dean | The Fletcher School at Tufts University

The Fletcher School at Tufts University

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Carmody!

Carmody

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LIVE: Go see Carmody @ Amazing Grace in London on May 31st!

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153. Why the 21st Century is for Cities and Mayors with Sadiq Khan

12 maj 2022 | 66 min

Cities are where we will lose or win the climate change battle.

Chapter 8 of the IPCC report on mitigation reported that more than half of the global population now lives in cities, and that proportion is expected to grow to about two-thirds by 2050.

That is a lot of people. And that’s a lot of emissions.

As of 2020, urban areas are the source of about 67-72% of emissions with about 100 of the highest emitting urban areas [currently] accounting for approximately 18% of the global carbon footprint.”

But with problems like urban heat, growing disparities in income and access to food and healthcare, how are mayors uniquely empowered to adapt to everything a climate emergency brings with it?

This week, we have the Mayor of London and Chair of C40, Sadiq Khan. He shares his personal journey with being diagnosed with Adult-Onset Asthma after breathing in too much pollution in London, and how educating the public and bringing people along with you in your leadership is the way forward to cleaner, greener cities.

And this week a special sample of Environmental Music Prize finalist, Holy Holy with their song ‘Hello My Beautiful World’

Enjoy the show!

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Mentioned links from the episode:

LEARN: CDP Cities, States and Regions Open Data Portal

VOTE: Environmental Music Prize

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Sadiq Khan

Mayor of London | Chair of C40 Cities

Mayor of London

C40 Cities

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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Holy Holy!

Holy Holy

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Time is running out to vote!

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152. Putin, Producer Logic and Peak Demand with Kingsmill Bond

5 maj 2022 | 72 min

151. What on Earth is Happening in the US with NRDC’s Manish Bapna

28 april 2022 | 74 min

What on Earth is happening in the US on climate policy?

This week, a look at US federal climate policy ahead of the US midterm elections. We explore the scarily-small-and-measured-in-weeks amount of time we have to pass meaningful climate legislation before the US midterm elections, and where the optimism is in Senate blocked legislation, a so-called ‘Conservative’ leaning Supreme Court, and a Presidential Administration dealing with fossil fuel addiction issues - Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and high prices at the pump.

So, with the help of the NRDC’s Manish Bapna, we discuss whether it is still possible to squeeze through an acceptable climate package that would put The States back on track to achieve their net-zero goals, AND why his outrage fuels his optimism in the midst of seemingly insurmountable challenges.

Plus! Stick around after the interview for the room shaking track ‘My Mama’ by musical guest, Dizraeli.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

NEWS: India’s Heatwave is about to get worse

READ: ‘The Ministry For The Future’ by Kim Stanley Robinson

REST: Resources for Dealing with Climate Anxiety

DAME: Christiana Figueres is Now A Dame

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Thanks to our guest this week, Manish Bapna!

Manish Bapna | President & CEO | Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC)

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TOUR: Dizraeli is coming to a city near you!

WATCH: See for yourself how Dizraeli is touring sustainably

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150. Earth Day Special: The Environmental Music Prize! with Edwina Floch

21 april 2022 | 57 min

Australia is turning up the volume on environmentalism for the world to hear!

If you turned on your favorite music radio station, would you know we’re in a crisis?

Only 1% of songs in National Australian premier radio station Triple J’s Hottest 100 (2.5M+ votes) over the last 5 years directly referenced environmental issues…and that’s following mass bleaching of The Great Barrier Reef, The devastating Australian Bushfires of 2019-2020, AND a recent study before COP26 that reported 75% of Australians are concerned about climate change.

So why is Australian mainstream music so culturally disconnected from a population overwhelmingly environmentalist? We know artists, bands, and musicians have been and are currently creating environmentally-minded music, so how do we get those songs into the mainstream?

Our guest today, Edwina Floch, recently launched The Environmental Music Prize - A new $AU 20,000 prize that amplifies the voices of artists who inspire action for climate and conservation. The prize launched during the UN Climate Summit, and it's a global first and a call-to-action for artists to create and submit powerful music videos that celebrate nature and encourage us to defend it.

Every movement needs anthems. The search is on!

Enjoy the show and stick around to hear some amazing music from music artists Montaigne, In Hearts Wake, Little Green, Billy Otto, and King Stingray!

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WATCH: All the Music Videos by the finalists for The Environmental Music Prize!

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Mentioned links from the episode:

VOTE: Vote for your favorite Environmental Music Prize finalists!

DONATE: Keep The Environmental Music Prize going!

LEARN: Learn more about The Environmental Music Prize!

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Thanks to our guest this week, Edwina Floch!

Edwina Floch

Founder | Environmental Music Prize

Environmental Music Prize

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Montaigne

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WATCH: ‘Ready’ Music Video (feat. School Strike For Climate Activist Fergus Clarkson)

In Hearts Wake

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Little Green

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Billy Otto

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149. Presenting: ‘The Way Out Is In’ with Christiana Figueres

14 april 2022 | 115 min

As many around the world turn inward this week, we bring you a special episode featuring Christiana Figueres from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast.

Many of us are looking for a way out of the crises we face. Climate, biodiversity, ecological, nature, health, wealth inequality…not to mention the deeply personal, familial, and interpersonal. A quick log in to twitter, checking the news, or reading the latest IPCC report reveals to us that we are on a path towards breakdown. We know there is a pathway out of this ‘atlas of human suffering’ as United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres recently said, but how do we chart that path?

This week, we suggest that the way out of suffering is in it.

Today we are sharing an episode from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast, produced by Plum Village, the Buddhist Monastery founded by the Late Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. Thich Nhat Hanh and his teachings were a vital support to Christiana in the lead up to the Paris Agreement and beyond.

In this episode, you’ll hear co-hosts Jo Confino and Brother Pháp Hữu invite Christiana on to share deeply about what brought her to Plum Village, both now and years ago during her first encounter with Thich Nhat Hanh; her journey to a spiritual practice that helped her overcome a personal crisis, and the transformative power of practices such as ‘deep listening’ and ‘interbeing’ on the negotiation process of The Paris Agreement.

So get comfortable, settle in, and join us for a special listen to Episode #21 of ‘The Way Out Is In’ - Being the Change We Want to See in the World: A Conversation with Christiana Figueres

[Content warning: This episode includes mentions of suicidal thoughts at 00:25:00 for approximately two minutes – listeners who could find this discussion distressing may wish to skip this section.]

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Zen and The Art of Saving The Planet

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Next ‘The Way Out Is In’ Recommended Episodes To Listen To:

War And Peace (Ukraine)

Wise Leadership w/ Lindsay Levin

WATCH: ‘A Cloud Never Dies’ on YouTube

READ: ‘Zen and The Art of Saving the Planet’ by Thich Nhat Hanh

DOWNLOAD: The Plum Village App

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Co-Host | The Way Out Is In

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148. The Future is Intersectional with Leah Thomas

7 april 2022 | 67 min

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

- MLK (1963)

This week, we reject our flawed, siloed thinking and embrace the oneness of social justice and environmentalism as a singular, inclusive movement.

In the Summer of 2020, our guest, Leah Thomas, coined the term “Intersectional Environmentalism” with a graphic she shared to Instagram that read, “Environmentalists For Black Lives Matter” as a call out to all environmentalists to stand in solidarity with BIPOC communities that face compounding social and environmental injustices daily. The Instagram post went viral, and the pledge she introduced along with it, The IE Pledge, has reached over a million people.

And so now that it’s 2022 and counting, how can we continue to root ourselves in that moment of clarity in 2020 and hold to the truth that you don’t have to separate race or racial justice from environmental advocacy? How can we scale climate solutions while advocating for marginalized communities all the while not making excuses for extractive industries?

We’re also joined this week by special co-host Abigael Kima, a young energy expert and climate activist from Kenya .She is the producer and host of the new Hali-Hewa (Swahili for ‘Climate Change’) podcast, which will profile African activists and climate experts airing through to COP27 on themes including a just energy transition, loss and damage, youth participation in intergovernmental processes and indigenous rights.

And —- Stick around for 3-Time GRAMMY Award Winning Artist Fantastic Negrito performing a live version of his song, “Rolling Through California”!

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ACT: Take the Intersectional Environmentalist Pledge

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Mentioned links from the episode:

LISTEN: IE’s Brand New Podcast ‘The Joy Report’

READ: MAPS (Marine Arctic Peace Sanctuary)

WATCH: How Black Lives Matter and Environmental Justice Are Connected

READ: The NAP Ministry

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Thanks to our guest this week, Leah Thomas!

Leah Thomas

Founder | Intersectional Environmentalist

Intersectional Environmentalist

BUY: The Intersectional Environmentalist by Leah Thomas

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Thank you to our Co-Host this week, Abigael Kima!

Abigael Kima

Host and Producer | Hali Hewa Podcast

Hali Hewa Podcast

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Our musical guest this week is Fantastic Negrito!

Fantastic Negrito

WATCH: ‘Highest Bidder’

READ: New Film + Album “White Jesus Black Problems” coming June 3rd

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147. IPCC Report: It's Not Too Late to Mitigate with Ko Barrett

6 april 2022 | 41 min

The World’s scientists have come together on behalf of the web of life to deliver the most comprehensive review of how we can mitigate the effects of climate change.

So what’s in this latest IPCC report? The latest from Working Group III covers a broad spectrum of topics: from mitigation pathways and in-depth sectoral analysis to finance, international cooperation, net-zero and carbon dioxide removal… Let’s simplify that - Mitigation. This report lays out how we’re going to mitigate the effects of climate change. Because make no mistake, climate change is here and gaining speed. It’s up to us to listen to the scientists and follow their guidance to slow it down.

So, here to guide us through this new report is Ko Barrett, Vice Chair, IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) and Senior Advisor for Climate, NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). Ko is widely recognized as an expert on climate policy, particularly on issues related to climate impacts and strategies to help society adapt to a changing world. Not only was she one of the first women elected to serve as a vice chair of the IPCC in 2015, but she oversaw this latest report, gracefully and skillfully convening the global scientific consensus on this crucial report on Climate Change. An incredible achievement.

This report informs business leaders, policy makers, activists, influencers, artists…everybody. Listen in to hear what makes this report unique, how to avoid doomism on climate, and what it’s going to take to get to a livable future.

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READ: WG3 AR6 IPCC Report

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Ko Barrett

Vice Chair | IPCC

Senior Advisor for Climate | NOAA

IPCC

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146. Together We Can Change the World with Jane Goodall

30 mars 2022 | 35 min

145. Africa: A View From The Frontlines of Climate Justice and Gender Equality with Vanessa Nakate

24 mars 2022 | 69 min

For years in the Global North, our dialogue around climate change has been focused on the idea that it is a looming disaster with consequences that would happen in the future if we did not take immediate action. The recent years of extreme weather events where we saw flooding in Germany and London and heat waves and storms across Europe and the United States, brought the reality home that climate change was happening NOW.

But for those living in Africa and the Global South, this ‘looming disaster’ has been a reality for decades. While the devastation, droughts, famines, wars over life-sustaining resources and refugee crises that climate change has caused might not make the headlines in the Global North the way Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has, the impacts of climate change on these frontline communities is nonetheless devastating and requires attention and action NOW.

Which is why this week we invited one of the incredible female voices from the frontline of the climate crisis in Uganda, Vanessa Nakate, an activist and founder of the Rise Up! Movement, onto the O+O podcast so we could share her concerns and action points first hand with our listeners.

In this intimate, in-depth interview with Christiana, Vanessa shares her journey from Ugandan school girl to world renowned climate activist. She tells us about her passion for gender equality and why she believes it is synonymous with bringing the climate crisis to justice, and why Loss and Damage must stay on the agenda for COP27, touted by many as The African COP.

Keep your ears open because Vanessa gives a clear call to action to any listeners who want to help African activists get their voices heard during COP 27. Vanessa asks that businesses, organizations and individuals consider supporting African activists either through providing accreditation for COP27 or through funding. If you can help please reach out via social media to Vanessa directly or via the Rise UP Movement’s website.

And stick around until the end of the episode to hear the soul-stirring Ugandan musical artist Afrie perform her single, “Let Her Know”.

Enjoy the show!

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ACT: Fridays For Future’s 4 Digital Strike Actions

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DONATE: Vanessa’s Solar and Stove Project

WATCH: Vanessa Nakate asks Global North Ministers the “Thumbs Up” Question

READ: A 10-Point Plan to Reduce the European Union’s Reliance on Russian Natural Gas

READ: Christiana pens an alternative ending to ‘Don’t Look Up’ for Netflix

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Vanessa Nakate

Climate Justice Activist | Founder of Rise Up Movement

Rise Up Movement

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BUY THE BOOK: A Bigger Picture by Vanessa Nakate

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Our musical guest this week is Afrie!

Afrie

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144. Conflict Fueling Outrage: It’s Time to Quit Fossil Fuels

14 mars 2022 | 40 min

143. An Appetite for Adaptation

10 mars 2022 | 71 min

Welcome back to our series on the Future of Food!

In this episode, we’ll explore the significance of adaptive transformation in global food systems. How do farming and consumption play into creating an inclusive, just, and beautiful future?

From empowering women farmers in Africa, to telling the story behind every piece of organic produce, from considering food value over food price, to what to ask at your grocery store, we examine why urgent transformation is needed to protect the people – and land – growing our food against the increasingly devastating impacts of climate change.

You’ll hear from:

Wanjira Mathai | Vice President + Regional Director for Africa, World Resources Institute
Volkert Engelsman | Founder + CEO, Eosta
Jenipher Sambazi | Coffee Farmer + Vice Chair, Mount Elgon Agroforestry Community Cooperative Enterprise
Elen Jones | Co-Founder + Director, Jenipher's Coffi
Ed Davey | Policy + International Engagement Director, Food and Land Use Coalition + Co-Director, WRI UK
Helena Leurent | Director General, Consumers International

So with food being at the heart and centre of the human story, there’s not a minute to waste. Let’s get on with it!

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MORE LISTENING: Outrage + Optimism’s previous episodes on The Future of Food

READ: What is Plum Village?

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Volkert Engelsman

Founder and CEO, Eosta

Eosta

LinkedIn | Website

Nature & More

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Wanjira Mathai

Vice President & Regional Director for Africa, World Resources Institute (WRI)

Twitter | LinkedIn | Website

WRI Africa

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Jenipher Sambazi

Coffee Farmer & Vice Chair, Mount Elgon Agroforestry Community Cooperative Enterprise (MEACCE)

MEACCE

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Elen Jones

Co-Founder and Director, Jenipher's Coffi

Jenipher's Coffi

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Ed Davey

Policy and International Engagement Director, Food and Land Use Coalition

& Co-Director, WRI UK

WRI

FOLU

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Helena Leurent

Director General, Consumers International

Consumers International

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142. Ukraine, Defense, and Climate Change with William Hague and David Miliband

3 mars 2022 | 52 min

141. IPCC Report: Adapt or Die! with Patrick Verkooijen

1 mars 2022 | 36 min

The latest IPCC Report from Working Group II on Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability comes at an unprecedented moment in human history. A moment too late to avoid all effects of climate change baked into an already 1.1C warmer world, and a moment not too late to adapt humanity and all species to our increasingly important target of only 1.5C of warming.

In a strikingly clear connection this report makes between human and ecosystem vulnerability, the science is clear; Either we adapt, or we perish. Because between 3.3-3.6 Billion humans are currently living in areas “highly vulnerable to climate change”.

So, with over 270 scientists that poured over 34,000 publications and assessed 127 risks telling us to adapt now, Now, NOW! …how do we cut to the heart of those at the levers of economic and governmental power already dealing with war, famine, a pandemic, the list goes on.

This week, Patrick Verkooijen, CEO of the Global Center on Adaptation joins us to lay out the findings of this next section of the IPCC report, and how tapping into humanity’s enlightened Self-interest (with a capital S) can take investment now into adaptation and promise exponential returns for humanity, as well as all species on Earth.

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WATCH: IPCC Press Conference + Secretary-General of The UN’s Address

LISTEN: Our Episode with Michael Mann on the previous Working Group I contribution to the IPCC Report

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Patrick Verkooijen

CEO | Global Center on Adaptation

Global Center on Adaptation

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140. Every Country Could Be Carbon Negative with Erika Mouynes

24 februari 2022 | 55 min

“It doesn’t matter what your economy is. It’s just a matter of deciding of protecting your areas and committing to it.”

Last week it was reported that the world’s governments are currently subsidizing our own destruction to the tune of $1.8 Trillion a year…yeah. Not good. What does it look like to turn these subsidies around to promote nature, clean energy, and equitable access to energy across continents?

Maybe this week we have the answer, because in the midst of those irresponsible subsidies, this week we present a story of responsibility, political courage, and negativity! …The good kind.

Erika Mouynes is the Minister of Foreign Affairs from Panama, a country that recently attained certified Carbon Negative status. How does a country with a fleet of ships that is the 8th largest emitter of greenhouse gases and an economy based on global trade go carbon negative? Minister Mouynes tells all in our interview.

From implementing a Greenhouse Gas Emissions Fee, to the indigenous protection of land, and even some eco-surveillance in space, today’s episode is all about how a Minister of Forein Affairs goes absolutely Environmental.

And stick around ‘til the end for the African Fusion Soul stylings of ‘Ganda Boys’.

Enjoy the show!

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Mentioned links from the episode:

READ: The Guardian - “World spends $1.8tn a year on subsidies that harm environment, study finds”

READ: Yuval Noah Harari’s 2% More Campaign

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Thanks to our guest this week, Minister Erika Mouynes!

Erika Mouynes

Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Panama

Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores de Panamá

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Ganda Boys

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139. 2% For 1.5 with Yuval Noah Harari

17 februari 2022 | 67 min

138. Just Look Up! with Adam McKay

10 februari 2022 | 69 min

Today, an earth-shattering comet of an episode as Christiana, Tom and Paul talk to the phenomenally talented Adam McKay about his 4 time Oscar nominated film Don’t Look Up!

Writing and directing a comedy film about climate change is not a challenge for the faint hearted. Not only did Adam McKay take this challenge on, in doing so he created a tour-de-force which dominated global news feeds after its release, quickly took the position of 2nd most watched Netflix original and got EVERYONE talking about climate change.

Listen as he describes his journey of growing climate awareness, how he doesn’t think he will produce another piece of work that ISN’T about climate change, and the breaking news that France will be hosting its own series of ‘Just Look Up’ days as a result of the film.

The hosts are also super charged this week as they tackle the global energy crisis head on, taking us on a whistlestop tour of the major issues that are being played out against an ever increasingly tense geopolitical backdrop. Can gas ever be considered green? What are the implications of this crisis on a swift green energy transition and stability of net zero ambitions?

We think you’ll agree, we really did have it all this week didn’t we?

And! Stick around til the end because playing us out this week is the incredibly talented Sibusile Xaba with his single ‘Angisenalutho’.

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JOIN: Don’t Look Up’s Count Us In Initiative! (And bring a friend!)

READ: What if Climate Change Were Like a Comet? By Emily Atkin of HEATED

WATCH: Rowanbank’s Positive Imaginings Films

LISTEN: The Last Podcast Ever Made: A Don’t Look Up Podcast

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Adam McKay

Writer | Director | Producer

HyperObject

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137. We're Back! Welcome to Season 5

3 februari 2022 | 49 min

136. The Deep Time Walk with Stephan Harding

1 februari 2022 | 58 min

*This episode is best enjoyed on a pair of headphones or quality speaker system

Welcome to Season 5!

We have a special season opener for you- An immersive sound journey through the history of Gaia, as told by Dr. Stephan Harding. Normally on the podcast we engage full-heartedly in the political, social, and economic debate surrounding everything climate, but today we set aside the time to sit comfortably, relax, and learn to “walk well into the life of Gaia” as Stephan puts it. Stephan has had a massive influence on the climate movement in the way of inspiring global leaders to shift their world view of life to a Gaian view of life. We have the privilege of sharing an exercise of that shift with all of you.

But just before we go on this meditation together, we are taking a mindful breath as we acknowledge the passing of Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. He was a global spiritual leader, poet, and an environmental and peace activist, known for his powerful teachings and bestselling writings on mindfulness and peace. Christiana, at the top of the episode, shares a few beautiful words about him and how grateful we are to have such influential teachers in our life. Our hearts are with the Plum Village and all the Sanghas around the world who are continuing Thich Nhat Hanh’s incredible legacy and teachings.

It is in this spirit of deep gratitude and stubborn optimism for the continuation of our teachers that we offer you this audio journey of The Deep Time Walk.

Enjoy!

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READ: Zen and The Art of Saving The Planet by Thich Nhat Hanh

LISTEN: The Way Out is In Podcast (A Podcast Co-Produced by Global Optimism)

DOWNLOAD: The Deep Time Walk App

CHECK OUT: The Deep Time Walk Field Kit

LEARN MORE: Deep Time Walk Project

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Dr. Stephan Harding

Deep Ecology Research Fellow | Senior Lecturer in Holistic Science

Author of Animate Earth and Gaia Alchemy

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Schumacher College

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135. No Substitute For Nature with Zac Goldsmith

20 december 2021 | 64 min

There’s no pathway to capping our global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius without protecting and restoring nature.

That’s the lay of the land according to The Rt Hon Lord Goldsmith, Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment - our final guest for 2021. At the close of a year that’s seen enormous momentum to incorporate forests and land use well and truly into the climate agenda, Lord Goldsmith shares insights into the context and his vision for the next twelve months.

So, where do we stand now? Among the remarkable outcomes of COP26 was a commitment to halting and reversing forest loss and land degradation by 2030. Signed by 141 countries, the Glasgow Leaders’ Declaration on Forest and Land Use covers an incredible 90 percent of global forest. We also saw meaningful progress at this year’s Convention on Biological Diversity in Kunming. And the direction of travel? Our ultimate challenge and goal, Lord Goldsmith says, is to reconcile our economy with our natural world – and now has to be the turning point.

So! Join us for a reflection on some major moments on the podcast this past year and a look into this turning point moment. Can we reduce emissions by 7% each consecutive year from here on out?

And - we have a holiday-themed song this year as our last song of the season! A special acoustic performance of “It’s Christmas” by Callum Beattie. Stick around for it!

Thank you for a great season!

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Zac Goldsmith (Rt Hon Lord)

Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment

UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office

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Callum Beattie

DONATE: Steps To Hope

Steps To Hope

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134. Shifting Mindsets and Systems with Jennifer Morgan

16 december 2021 | 68 min

In this week’s episode we continue our series debriefing COP26 and take a look at the climate movement for their perspective on the outcomes of the Glasgow Climate Pact. Staying optimistic and fighting for climate justice - because indeed our lives depend on it - is a rightful approach to the conversation. And yet, the clock is ticking. What’s the reality behind fast-tracking our path to only a 1.5 world?

Today, we talk to Jennifer Morgan, Executive Director at Greenpeace International, who joins us to discuss how shifting mindsets and systems are crucial in finding alternative development models and dismantling systems of oppression.

Jennifer lays out how we can rebuild trust between those on the proverbial “inside” and “outside”. Because, whilst we have seen a huge coming together of stakeholders, movements and mindsets, this conversation focuses on understanding why we hear some voices proclaim a historic and generational win, while others voice a more depleted and disappointed point of view at the lack of urgency and responsibility by those in positions of power. The reality is that both are true.

Join us in piecing together the puzzle and understanding deeper our role in the movement as a podcast.

And don’t miss IDER, our musical artist with their song, BORED- a song born out of frustration at the profit structures behind corporate power and false advertising.

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From Paul: A Climate of Concern (“When Shell was Greenpeace”)

From Paul: Lawsuit - The People of California vs Big Oil

DONATE: Greenpeace International

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Jennifer Morgan | Executive Director of Greenpeace International

Greenpeace

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DONATE to Greenpeace

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Ider

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133. Innovative Finance to Fast-Forward Climate Solutions with Hiro Mizuno

13 december 2021 | 39 min

132. Getting Over The Line at COP26 with Alok Sharma

9 december 2021 | 59 min

Countries have stepped up. Projected emission trajectories have come down. But let’s be real for a moment- We are still not doing enough, fast enough. So what did this year's host of the COP26 get right, and what is still in play as we prepare for COP27? Today we talk with Alok Sharma, President of COP26 and the man in the spotlight of the Glasgow negotiations just a few weeks back.

As Alok takes us back through his experience at COP26 keeping 1.5°C front and center, the grounding truth of how The Glasgow Pact directly impacts the lives and livelihoods of millions of people becomes crystal clear. In this episode we hear from his perspective how fighting climate change must be both a personal experience and global effort, and how building trust was a precious commodity in the discussions, holding the key to all the parties mutually agreeing to get an agreement over the line.

But, how is this hard-earned political trust perceived outside the negotiation halls? It seems an increasingly challenging task to ensure that this is communicated in a digestible way to all the stakeholders working tirelessly for the phasing out of fossil fuels, climate justice, adaptation, as well as loss and damage.

Listen in to discover the presidency’s plans on how to ensure that no small piece of the process allows it all to tumble down like a big jenga tower.

And stick around after the conversation for a cinematic musical experience with Sarah Class!

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Rt Hon Alok Sharma MP

COP26 President

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Sarah Class

WATCH: ‘Resonate’ Official Music Video

DONATE: The World Land Trust

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131. Being Smartly Selfish is Selfless with President Carlos Alvarado

2 december 2021 | 56 min

130. Opening Hearts with Elizabeth Wathuti

25 november 2021 | 67 min

With the ink still drying on The Glasgow Pact, we’re already hearing the results from Glasgow being labeled in binary terms like “Success” and “Failure” While we know that some stunning pledges and progressive language in the Pact came from some of the negotiations, it is also true that historically these pledges have not been met completely, or have been missed entirely. Full stop.

So with millions of humans suffering under the systemic injustice of rising global emissions, how do we meet this moment to reduce those global emissions and break those unjust systems of oppression? And how does the COP process make those necessary changes politically possible? And in the next eight years?!

Maybe it’s as simple as starting with silence.

This week we speak with Elizabeth Wathuti, environmentalist and climate activist from Kenya. She is the founder and president of Green Generation Initiative, and Head of Campaigns and Daima Consortium Coordinator for the Wangari Maathai Foundation.

Elizabeth brought the house down at COP26 this year with her speech in which she led a moment of silence followed by the urgency to every Head of State in the room to “ please open your hearts”. You won’t want to miss what she has to say to us on the show!

Stick around ‘til the end for an incredible music track from Knomad Spock!

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Excerpt from Elizabeth Wathuti's speech at COP26, reproduced courtesy of the UN.

Excerpt from the Opening Ceremony of the World Leaders Summit at COP26, November 2021.

Available here: Elizabeth Wathuti at COP26 “Please Open Your Hearts” Speech

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Elizabeth Wathuti

Environmentalist | Climate Activist

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129. COP26: Glasgow Pact and Ready to Go Further

15 november 2021 | 59 min

128. COP26 Halfway Point: A City of Two Tales With Nigel Topping

8 november 2021 | 32 min

127. Live from COP26! Energy For People and Planet

5 november 2021 | 44 min

Coming to you LIVE from Energy Day at COP26!

So, energy and climate change. Where should we start?

With both the IEA World Energy Outlook and the IPCC AR6 Scientific assessment that came out this year declaring that coal has peaked, we also know that gas and then oil must also peak and see their way to the museums, as Christiana would say. 1.5C has been the only north star at COP26 to doing things like consigning coal to history, and every step towards decarbonizing our economy paints a clearer and clearer understanding more than ever before that we have to start now to cut emissions in one half by 2030 and restore and protect nature, at the same time.

But how does this apply to the developing world? The right to development is unquestionable, morally and also economically. But whilst those in rich and middle income countries received energy from fossil fuel sources that enabled their development, the situation that put us in is forcing us to think differently about providing clean, low carbon, and affordable energy to ensure societies that are bearing climate impacts the most harshly are also given an equal and equitable pathway to develop.

So where do we begin to provide accessible, clean, affordable energy to all? What are the challenges, what are the benefits, how will this new fund support billions of people to live better lives - and how fast can it be achieved?

Tune in to find out!

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LISTEN: Check out our new Shortcast with Blinkist!

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Rebekah Shirley

Director of Research, Data & Innovation, World Resources Institute Africa

Andrew Steer

President & CEO, Bezos Earth Fund

Rhajiv Shah

President of the Rockefeller Foundation

Rockefeller Foundation

Per Heggenes

CEO of the IKEA Foundation

Ikea Foundation

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126. COP26! All Eyes on 1.5

3 november 2021 | 35 min

125. Banking on Net Zero with Noel Quinn

2 november 2021 | 52 min

The way to Net Zero is through the bank.

One of the major questions at COP26 is, “How are we going to finance the transition to Net Zero?” From shifting investments away from fossil fuels, to boosting the speed and scale of green companies bringing forward the necessary solutions to creating a sustainable future for people and planet.

...And profit.

This week, we’re joined by Group Chief Executive of HSBC, Noel Quinn. He recently committed HSBC, with an impressive $3 trillion balance sheet, to have a completely Net Zero portfolio by 2050, and have their own supply chain and operations Net Zero by 2030. All the while significantly expanding their investment in green finance, creating a philanthropic program and clean technology venture fund.

We are also joined this week by guest co-host Kelly Clark, Director of Finance & Capital Market Transformation at The Laudes Foundation. Her day job is reimagining our current economic system and redefining value to go beyond shareholder interest.

It’s a fascinating conversation and essential to bring about the radical systems change we need to see.

Join us!

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LEARN: GFANZ

WATCH: Livestream COP26 from anywhere

READ: Noel Quinn’s letter on Net Zero

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Noel Quinn

Group Chief Executive | HSBC

HSBC

Kelly Clark

Director Finance & Capital Market Transformation | Laudes Foundation

Laudes Foundation

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COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference

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124. We Need To Talk About China

29 oktober 2021 | 48 min

China.

On one hand, the country is the world’s largest source of carbon emissions, an economic and political powerhouse resting on a thick cloud of hydrocarbon pollution, contrary to the goals of the Paris Agreement. On the other hand, President Xi Jinping has set the stage for China to emerge as an environmental leader, with the highest reforestation rate in the world; it makes and buys more electric cars than any other country by far; and is the world’s top renewable energy investor for the eighth consecutive year, including manufacturing 80% of solar cells globally.

It is clear that China has the power to determine whether we can limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees celsius. As we head into the COP26 international climate discussions, all eyes will be on the indomitable diplomatic skills of China and America’s special envoys for climate, Xie Xanhau and John Kerry, who brought about significant pact between the world’s two top polluters that significantly influenced the success of the Paris Agreement.

This week we talk with Peggy Liu, a leading catalyst of a greener China and Former Prime Minister of Australia and President of the Asia Society, Kevin Rudd, who offers deep insight into China’s climate goals and trajectory of travel, gleaned over 35 years of working with the Chinese Government.

Enjoy the show!

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Peggy Liu

Chair of JUCCCE, board member of Drawdown, Governor of Hillary Institute

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Former PM of Australia, President of the Asia Society.

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123. Ramping Up for COP26! with Matthew Phillips

28 oktober 2021 | 44 min

122. What The Hale?! Introducing the Net Zero Tracker with Thomas Hale

27 oktober 2021 | 28 min

Tom Hale is BACK and here to announce the official Launch of the Net Zero Tracker!

So yes - this week we have Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University, Tom Hale, who joined us back in March of this year discussing the launch of a report “Taking Stock of commitments to Net Zero”. That report put a spotlight on the credibility of a wave of government and business net zero commitments at the time. He is now returning more triumphant than ever with a significant update - The launch of a publicly available Net Zero Tracker!

It’s a big deal.

Our host, Paul Dickinson jumps in to ask, What the Hale IS the Net Zero Tracker? And how is it creating radical transparency that will lead to actually limiting global heating to 1.5C?

In tandem with the Net Zero Tracker is a new release as well, The Net Zero Dashboard Codebook - Filled with terms to bring absolute clarity to Net Zero pledges, promises, and commitments...so what the Hale do all these terms mean? Stick around for our classic Lightning Round.

The Race to Zero continues!

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Net Zero Tracker

UNEP Gap Report

NYT Visualization of Emissions Pre-Paris vs Current vs Pledged vs Necessary for 1.5C

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Thomas Hale

Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University

Blavatnik School of Government

Net Zero Tracker

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121. Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon

21 oktober 2021 | 51 min

*inhales deeply* Fresh off the TED Countdown Stage and moments after the ‘Green Carpet’ at The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021 AND a week and a half away from COP26 - Has there ever been a more exciting moment?

This week we give our first-hand experience at TED Countdown, discussing ‘the moment’ and what followed when Christiana was moderating a discussion on the TED stage about our theories of change with Ben van Beurden, Chris James and Lauren MacDonald. Also Christiana and Tom recall a few exciting moments from the Earthshot Prize Awards and the future investment in scaling these 5 award winning solutions to meet our rapidly approaching climate targets.

In an incredible interview, our very special guest this week is First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon. We met her at her residence in Edinburgh to discuss this new vision she has for small countries collaborating on climate action, and the phenomenal TED Talk she had just delivered (ensured by a standing ovation). Tom says, “it was one of the best I’ve ever seen.”

And in perfect harmony with this week’s subject- An amazing song this week from DIVEST - we hear them play ‘Something’s About to Change’. It’s really, really good.

Enjoy the show!

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Absolutely Required Viewing: Decarbonizing fossil fuels: An unedited discussion from TED Countdown Summit

Follow Up Read: Christiana Figueres reflects on the emotionally charged climate debate that riveted TED

Watch: The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021

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Nicola Sturgeon

First Minister of Scotland

Office of the First Minister

Scottish Government

Net Zero Scotland

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The incredible DIVEST was is our musical guest this week

DIVEST

Facebook | Bandcamp | Instagram | Twitter

Give them a follow and check out their new EP - Mercury Retrograde

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120. Taking Business Net Positive with Paul Polman & Andrew Winston

14 oktober 2021 | 51 min

For the first time ever, we are all in-person bringing you this episode from the TED Countdown Summit in Edinburgh! TED Countdown is an event that officially kicked off on 12th October and encompasses four days of inspiring talks, collaboration, connections and commitments to meaningful action for a better world ahead of COP26.

Our guest today is Paul Polman, return Outrage + Optimism guest and a celebrated business leader who made sustainability the heart of a global consumer business’ growth agenda in his former role as CEO of Unilever. He is joined by one of the most widely read, published and acclaimed writers on sustainability, Andrew Winston, to talk about the new book the two have co-authored, “Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take”.

We unpack the ways the book re-frames how business can put a lasting end inequality and climate change. Can every business be Net Positive? Find out!

Stick around for a track of epic proportions from musical guest, WACO.

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Go buy Paul + Andrew’s new book: Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take

TED Countdown!

Blog (Day 2) | Twitter | Instagram

Clay Recommends - Visualizing Climate Change: An Open Call For Photography

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Paul Polman

Influencer, business leader, campaigner

Andrew Winston

Writer, Adviser/Speaker on Megatrends & Sustainability, Consultant on Corporate Strategy

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Amazing music this week was from WACO!

WACO

Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Spotify

You gotta see their punkishly cosmic music video for “A New Future”

They have a physical copy of their latest record for sale out on Venn Records, made from leftover waste vinyl: “Hope Rituals” - Buy It!

Sales will be donated to Beyond Gender - Please check out the work they are doing to create a fairer and safer society.

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Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety, Government Betrayal and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon

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119. Dealing with Climate Grief with Luisa Neubauer

7 oktober 2021 | 47 min

With only 99 months left until 2030, and COP26 in less than 1, time is ticking on 1.5. And young people know it.

So today, a timely and relevant conversation with Climate Activist, and return guest to Outrage + Optimism, Luisa Neubauer. This time, focusing on climate change and its impact on the mental health and outlook on the future of young people everywhere.

The backdrop to the conversation with Luisa are two recently published studies (One from The Lancet, another from Science.org) examining the psychological effect of climate induced anxiety and perceived government inaction on our youth, and their current and future lived experience of the impact of climate change.

We also consider causes for optimism at the other end of the spectrum as The Eartshot Prize has announced its finalists and is featuring a high profile TV series focusing on the regenerative and transformative projects from small community efforts to public policy driven national initiatives.

A just future is possible. What will we choose?

Hit play, join us for the conversation, and stick around for musical guest this week is the one and only Gizmo Varillas!

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Earthshot The TV Series featuring Christiana Figueres is now available to view on Discovery+ and BBC iPlayer!

TEDCountdown Summit is next week!

Climate Grief and Anxiety Studies:

Intergenerational Inequities in Exposure to Climate Extremes

Check out the incredible activists Christiana and Paul met in Dubai:

HE Dr. Nawal Al-Hosany

permanent representative of the UAE to the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA)

The UAE Mission to IRENA

Nisreen Elsaim

Chair, UN Secretary General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change

Heeta Lakhani

Global Focal Point, YOUNGO and Director, UmeUs United Pvt. Ltd.

Children and Youth constituency to United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (YOUNGO)

Twitter | Linktr.ee | Website | Instagram

Climate Change Conference of Youth (COY16)

Twitter | Website | Instagram

A recommendation from Clay:

Go listen to ‘The Flock’ - An epic audio drama about rising up against environmental destruction - From the view of birds!

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Thank you to our guest this week, Luisa Neubauer!

Luisa Neubauer

Check out her podcast:

1.5 Degrees

And of course, her incredible TED Talk

Learn more about Fridays For Future

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Amazing music this week was from Gizmo Varillas!

Gizmo Varillas

Music | Website | Vinyl

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Read the Sierra Club’s rundown of ‘Climate Night'

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118. Protecting Our Planet with Cristián Samper

30 september 2021 | 46 min

You probably heard last week was Climate Week and UNGA. But, what actually happened?

To cover it all, we get into the cornucopia of methane reduction announcements from countries across the world, a quick update on China, and a special focus this week on the announcement of the ‘Protecting Our Planet Challenge’, an announcement that saw 9 philanthropic organisations, including the Bezos Earth Fund, collectively commit $5 billion of funds to the 30x30 campaign.

We explore what this funding announcement means for the campaign, what effect this could have on government ambition and commitment to biodiversity as we gear up for COP26, and how this is a goal every single one of us can unite behind.

Joining us this week is Cristián Samper, President and CEO of the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS). Cristián played a key role in convening the 9 organizations to launch the Protecting Our Planet Challenge. It marks the largest-ever philanthropic commitment to nature conservation and a significant step in addressing the triple crisis that threatens our planet – climate change, nature loss and economic insecurity.

Thanks for listening! Stick around ‘til the end for a live performance of 'Ocean' by special musical guest Palmaria!

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Go watch Global Citizen Live!

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Thank you to our guest this week:

Cristián Samper

President and CEO | Wildlife Conservation Society

Wildlife Conservation Society

LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Website

Bezos Earth Fund

High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People (30x30 campaign)

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Amazing music this week was from Palmaria!

Palmaria

Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Website

Listen to 'Ocean'

Also, check out their live performance music video for ‘Ocean’!

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117. The Seeds Are Sown for a Food Revolution with Agnes Kalibata

24 september 2021 | 28 min

Following the success of UN Food Systems Summit, or as it’s also known- “The People’s Summit” we get a chance to speak to the driving force behind it, UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy for the Food Systems Summit, Agnes Kalibata.

Formerly Rwanda’s Minister of Agriculture and Animal Resources (MINAGRI) from 2008 to 2014, she drove programs that moved her country to food security helping to lift more than a million Rwandans out of poverty.

Now as Special Envoy, her efforts toward progress of the delivery of the SDGs, and to prioritise Food Systems in the global conversation around climate change are coming to a 2 year culmination. Besides this summit being the first time the UN has called a summit dedicated to food systems, it is engaging more than 100,000 people from 147 countries through 900 independent multi-stakeholder dialogues on food system transformation. UN Summits are often mostly prepared statements by member states. This move to put people and dialogue at the center was a radical return to destroying our siloed thinking when it comes to global issues.

The Food Revolution begins with a Thought Revolution, and people are at the heart of systemic change.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Check out Friday For Future’s #UprootTheSystem

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Thank you to our guests this week:

Dr Agnes Kalibata

UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy | 2021 Food Systems Summit

UN Food Systems Summit 2021

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116. Setting The Table for a Food Revolution

23 september 2021 | 61 min

Welcome to the first episode in a brand new series on The Future of Food!

Today, this episode coincides with a very important international gathering, the first of its kind at the United Nations. Known as the UN Food Systems Summit, formally, it is also called The People’s Summit.

During this ongoing series we will seek to unlock the many changes needed to enable each sector – government, corporations and citizens to ask themselves, “How can we contribute to a transformative movement for an inclusive, regenerative and circular society where access to nutritious food is a right we actually realize for every single person?”

But before we eat, we need to set the table. We’re joined on this episode by:

Dr. David Nabarro

Co-Director | Imperial College of London Institute of Global Health Innovation

Senior Advisor | Food Systems Summit Dialogues

Strategic Director | 4SD Switzerland

Special Envoy of WHO Director General for COVID19

Johan Rockström

Director | Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research

Dr. Gunhild A Stordalen

Founder & Executive Chair | EAT

These incredible guests help us explore in-depth the challenges and opportunities our current food system faces, and show us why getting food right might just be the key to unlocking our path to achieving our 2030 goals.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Global Citizen is streaming a 24 hour concert live from Central Park on Saturday, Sept 25

Watch BTS do their thing at UNGA

The 500-foot Sea Creature will be scaling the UN Facade this week

Fridays For Future is hosting a Climate Strike on Friday, Sept 24. Find your local strike here

Be sure to catch up on Climate Night which aired Live on Sept. 22

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Thank you to our guests this week:

UN Food Systems Summit

Dr David Nabarro

Co-Director | Imperial College of London Institute of Global Health Innovation

Senior Advisor | Food Systems Summit Dialogues

Strategic Director | 4SD Switzerland

Special Envoy of WHO Director General for COVID19

4SD

Website | Twitter | Facebook

Johan Rockström

Director | Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research

Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research (PIK)

Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn

Dr Gunhild A Stordalen

Founder & Executive Chair | EAT

EAT Foundation

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115. Turning Around in a Storm with David Shukman

21 september 2021 | 27 min

114. 30x30: Nature Needs More with Rita El Zaghloul

16 september 2021 | 37 min

Today, only 15 percent of land and 7 percent of our ocean are protected. Nature needs more.

The science is very clear – to prevent a mass extinction crisis, support a growing global population, and address climate change, we must conserve at least 30% of the planet by 2030.

...So why now? The science is very, very clear - If we act now we can limit the disaster, and we could even reverse the trends of climate change in an equitable, just fashion. But how?

This week we’re joined by Rita El Zaghloul, Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica. She is the driving force behind ambition at The HAC’s 30x30 campaign, slamming the pedal to the metal on their aim to agree to this plan at the COP15 Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) in October. The best part about it? It centers indigenous leadership and indigenous rights, while mobilizing financial resources both publicly and privately to ensure protected areas are properly managed, all the while protecting at least 30% of the planet by 2030;

We know our situation is dire. But we also know it’s going to take everything (aka Nature) and everyone (aka People) to keep us below 1.5 degrees. The HAC’s 30x30 campaign is one of the roadmaps there.

Nature is counting on us. What future will we choose?

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Our Guest This Week:

Rita El Zaghloul

Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica

High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People

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Musical Guest This week:

Mr Bruce

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113. Time's Up! We Need Everyone to Fight for 1.5

9 september 2021 | 30 min

BONUS: IPCC Report: The Tipping Point for Action with Michael E. Mann

10 augusti 2021 | 31 min

We’re back in your ears for a quick bonus episode on the latest IPCC Report.

The heavily anticipated and undeniably influential release of the IPCC’s Sixth Assessment Report’s Working Group 1 findings came out on Monday. In it, they provide an extraordinarily thorough examination into and warning of the physical science basis of climate change.

Christiana and the guys give their gut reactions to the report, and discuss how its findings are the turning point for necessary climate action at COP26. And joining us for this bonus episode to walk us through the release of this report is Distinguished Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University, Michael E. Mann, who has previously contributed as a lead author of the IPCC third cycle assessments.

This is the moment, there’s no going back. Thanks for listening.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Read: The Full WG1 AR6 IPCC Report (Caution: It’s like 1000+ pages)

Much Easier Read: The Headlines from The WG1 AR6 IPCC Report (2 pages)

Watch: Check out the IPCC’s YouTube Channel

Play: The IPCC Interactive Atlas

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Thank you to our guest this week, Michael E. Mann!

Michael E. Mann

Distinguished Professor and Director of the Earth System Science Center | Penn State University

Twitter | Instagram | Website

Check our Michael E. Mann’s latest book, ‘The New Climate War’

IPCC Social Media & links

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112. The Nature of Nature: Why We Need The Wild with Enric Sala

31 juli 2021 | 67 min

This week, we take an unflinching look at the impacts of the recent extreme global weather events as they provide a grim backdrop to the G20 meeting in Naples, the informal meeting of ministers representing 51 countries in London at the weekend, and the IPCC summary report by Working Group 1. This highly anticipated report is set to provide the up-to-the-moment science on future warming and future effects of warming. It’s a big deal, especially with of COP26 right around the corner.

So, with the lack of consensus on ending fossil fuels subsidies and phasing out coal among the G20 delegates and environmental ministers in London, combined with the anticipated stark report due from the IPCC, leads us to ask: how much more devastation can we suffer before climate change is recognised for the existential threat it poses?

Our guest this week Enric Sala, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence, and founder of National Geographic Pristine Seas. He brings us the optimism on protecting our marine life, and how we can avoid mass biodiversity loss and depletion of our fish stock and prevent further catastrophes to human and natural communities, if we act now on 30x30.

And later on in the episode, join us for Elle L’s debut avant-pop track, “Hoping”.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Check out The Dasgupta Report that was issued to help inform governments and business leaders to account for the value of nature’s ecosystem.

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Thank you to our guest this week, Enric Sala!

Enric Sala

National Geographic Explorer in Residence | National Geographic Pristine Seas

National Geographic Pristine SeasWebsite | Twitter | Instagram

Go check out Enric’s latest books here

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Check out the music video for ‘Hoping’

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111. New Systems and New Power with Dame Ellen MacArthur & Guest Co-Host Catherine Howarth

22 juli 2021 | 59 min

This week, The Circular Economy!

Currently our economy operates in a linear way. Take, Make, Dispose. It’s based on the industrial revolution, and we know this way of doing things has limits. Some of those limits we are reaching even today.

But there’s a different economy we could create. The Circular Economy.

This week we explore the ‘Circular Economy’ with #1 Circular Economy advocate, Dame Ellen MacArthur. This brand new economy is all about designing out waste and pollution, keeping products and materials in use, and regenerating natural systems. It incentivizes manufacturers to create and maintain better products, stops the Global North from polluting the Global South, and has the potential to regenerate wildlife and ecosystems that are on the brink of collapsing.

And with Christiana and Tom out this week, we invite special guest co-host, Catherine Howarth, CEO of Share Action, to discuss what it will take to encourage regenerative economic practices? Are we at a tipping point right now? Is a green, equitable, regenerative global society finally close to our grasp?

And later on in the episode, join us for a soulful acoustic performance of “What Can I Do?” by Rachel Sermanni.

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Mentioned links from the episode:

Universal Ownership by Ellen Quigley

Tax Pollution, Not People with Ex’Tax

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Thank you to our guest this week, Dame Ellen Macarthur!

Dame Ellen MacArthur

Founder and Chair of Trustees | Ellen MacArthur Foundation

Ellen MacArthur Foundation

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Our artist this week is Rachel Sermanni!

Live in Bristol or Sheffield? Go See Rachel LIVE

Check out her rad music video for “What Can I Do”

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Thank you to our Guest Co-host, Catherine Howarth!

Catherine Howarth

Chief Executive | ShareAction

ShareAction

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110. Building Leaderful Movements with Katie Eder & Guest Co-host Alice Garton

15 juli 2021 | 61 min

In a week that has seen record temperatures occurring throughout the Pacific Northwest of the United States and Canada, a major hurricane that hit Barbados - the first in 60 years - and one of the warmest winters on record down south in New Zealand, this episode looks at the urgent call to action coming from the younger generation. Their call for transformational change applies not only to climate action, but in delivering meaningful social justice action and revaluating and redefining the very notion of leadership itself.

Our special guest this week is Katie Eder, Climate Organizer at Future Coalition. She eloquently describes for us the foundational goal of equity that is at the heart of the youth movement. and how she believes transformational change begins with ‘a leaderful movement’, and is the way to securing climate and social justice goals. Spoiler Alert: This is the secret to the success of the Paris Agreement.

Paul is joined this week by guest co-host, Alice Garton, Legal Director for the Foundation for International Law for the Environment. Alice talks through some climate optimism in regards to recent Australian judicial rulings, as well as an optimistic take on the recent Royal Dutch Shell ruling in the Netherlands.

And later on in the episode, join us for a great acoustic performance of “The Woman Who Planted Trees” by Emily Barker.

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Links mentioned in the episode:

Read: Reason, Rationality and Fiduciary Duty by Steve Lydenberg

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Thank you to our guest this week, Katie Eder!

Katie Eder

Climate Organizer, Future Coalition

Instagram

Future Coalition

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Our artist this week is Emily Barker!

Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Website

Check out her latest EP, “Machine”

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Thank you to our Guest Co-host, Alice Garton!

Alice Garton

Director Global Legal Strategy, FILE

FILE Foundation

LSE Grantham Global Trends on on Climate Litigation 2021

Facts and figures on climate litigation:

Links for lawyers and law students looking to use the law to progress the climate transition:

Law Students for Climate Accountability

Net Zero Lawyers Alliance

The Chancery Lane Project

PILNET

A4ID

Links for citizens looking to participate in climate litigation:

Urgenda Global Climate Litigation

Holding Your Government’s Accountable for Climate Change

Climate Litigation Guide

Australian SHARMA case:

Equity Generation Lawyers

Fiduciary Duty:

Primer on Climate Change: Directors Duties

ACCR commentary on Shell Transition Plan

What citizens Can Do:

Wiki Page

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109. The Race to Resilience!

8 juli 2021 | 71 min

The Race to Resilience is on!

This week has seen another extremely harsh wildfire season and searing temperatures in the global North, Tropical Storm Elsa ripped through the Caribbean, becoming the first hurricane to hit Barbados in 60 years, and way down in the south of the planet, New Zealand has its hottest winter.

It is absolutely vital that the Race to Zero (emissions) and an equally important set of measures for adaptation and resilience be undertaken - at the same time - to allow humanity to thrive in the near and distant future.

So what exactly is the Race to Resilience? Join Christiana, Tom and Paul as we explore the links between tackling climate change, protecting and enhancing biodiversity, ensuring ocean health and changing how we use land. Among a few other notable guests, we talk to two city leaders building resilience in two very different communities, addressing local challenges and bringing thousands of citizens together to tackle climate change.

This week you’ll hear from:

Elizabeth Mrema, UN Assistant Secretary-General and Executive Secretary of the Convention on Biological Diversity

Anne-Marie Trevelyan, COP 26 International Champion for Adaptation and Resilience, and UK Energy and Climate Change Minister

Enric Sala, National Geographic Explorer in Residence, National Geographic Pristine Seas

Mayor Kate Gallego, Mayor of Phoenix, Arizona

and

Mayor Mohammed Sowah, Mayor of Accra, Ghana

We are racing against time - and rather than allowing fear to paralyse us, let’s use this energy to fuel our spirit and determination. Hit play for your weekly dose of outrage - and stubborn optimism.

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Thank you to our guests this week:

Elizabeth Mrema

UN Assistant Secretary-General and Executive Secretary of the Convention on Biological Diversity

UN Biodiversity

Anne-Marie Trevelyan

COP 26 International Champion for Adaptation and Resilience, and UK Energy and Climate Change Minister

COP 26

Enric Sala

National Geographic Explorer in Residence, National Geographic Pristine Seas

NG Pristine SeasWebsite | Twitter | Instagram

Mayor Kate Gallego

Mayor of Phoenix, Arizona

Mayor Mohammed Sowah

Mayor of Accra, Ghana

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The Future We Choose: The Stubborn Optimist’s Guide To The Climate Crisis by Christiana Figueres & Tom Rivett-Carnac

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108. Climate, Fossil Fuels and the Future of Shell with Ben van Beurden

3 juli 2021 | 67 min

BONUS: The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 3

25 juni 2021 | 42 min

107. Breaking Boundaries, Post Growth & The Future We Choose

24 juni 2021 | 50 min

This week, a live recording of our event “Breaking Boundaries, Post Growth & The Future We Choose” with special guests Johan Rockström and Tim Jackson.

A little bit about our guests:

Johan Rockström is the Director of Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research & Author of Breaking Boundaries, which is both a book and a powerful Netflix documentary.

Tim Jackson is the Director of The Centre for the Understanding of Sustainable Prosperity at the University of Surrey and has recently issued his latest book, Post Growth.

Join us for a sobering, gripping, and stubbornly optimistic conversation about the most decisive decade in human history. How can we change the stories we tell ourselves, to engage, inspire and empower people toward climate action?

Hit play and listen in!

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Book Links:

Breaking Boundaries: The Science of Our Planet by Johan Rockström & Owen Gaffney

Post Growth: Life After Capitalism by Tim Jackson

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Christiana, Johan and Tim have all been honoured as Hillary Laureates. Tap in to learn more about the work of the Hillary Institute.

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Johan Rockström

Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK)

PIK

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Tim Jackson

Author, Director of Centre for the Understanding of Sustainable Prosperity (CUSP)

Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Website

CUSP

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106. Warren East of Rolls-Royce says Nature is the Best Engineer

17 juni 2021 | 59 min

This week, we take a look at the latest pledges to arise from the G7 heads of government, who met over the weekend in Cornwall. Are these announcements indicative that the seven biggest western economies are really showing up to achieve a 1.5 world? Can this close the Gigatons gap in the run up to COP26? Can the Group of Seven offer developing countries funding alternatives to Beijing’s so-called 'Belt and Road' Initiative? Christiana, Tom, and Paul help us sort out this mixed bag of a weekend for climate.

Our special guest this week is Warren East, CEO of Rolls-Royce, an engineer by training and now leading a business in one of the hardest sectors to decarbonise: Aviation.

Aviation accounts for a significant 2.5% of global greenhouse gas emissions today, and growing. As the sector starts to recover from huge losses as a result of the pandemic, how does Rolls-Royce see the future for the sector and beyond the pandemic and into the climate crisis? We’ll hear from Warren on how the historic innovation of Rolls-Royce has the potential to lead us into a cleaner, more sustainable future of flight.

And stick around 'til the end because our music this week is from Asher Monroe! He’ll be performing live for us his single, ‘Midnight Masquerade’.

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Warren East

Chief Executive Officer, Rolls-Royce

Rolls-Royce

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Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website

Clay recommends you check out his Youtube Channel

See his conversation with Sir Elton John on Apple Music about his upcoming album.

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105. Why Dale Vince is a Successful Serial Climate Entrepreneur

10 juni 2021 | 58 min

With the G7 Summit happening in just a few days, things are looking good for it being a big moment for climate. Foreign Ministers have noted the impact of climate change on the most vulnerable, Health Ministers have made the link between health and the environment, Finance Ministers have supported mandating climate related disclosures...the momentum is real. But we’ve been here before with the same words and no action, so what is different this time around?

Later on in the episode we speak with serial climate entrepreneur, Dale Vince. Dale is a tireless force of nature. So far he’s founded a successful Green Energy company, Ecotricity; he’s Chairman of Forest Green Rovers, the world’s first all vegan, carbon neutral football team; and his company Skydiamond makes precious gems from carbon capture. We hear what underlies Dale's motivation and how his determined, stubborn optimism has made his ventures successful in demonstrating what we can still do to solve challenges posed by the climate crisis. And...is there a possible future for him in politics?

And finally, we hear a stirring spoken word piece titled, “Air” by Mel Chanté.

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Dale Vince

Environmentalist and Businessman | Founder of Ecotricity | Chairman of Forest Green Rovers

Ecotricity

Forest Green Rovers

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Our artist this week is Mel Chanté!

Subscribe to her podcast, “The Daily Shine”

Check out her latest EP, “FLO”

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BONUS: Richard Curtis, Amina Mohammed, Mark Carney, Christiana Figueres and More On Making Your Pension Clean Up

4 juni 2021 | 45 min

104. Big Hits to Big Oil & Adam Gardner on a Music Climate Revolution

3 juni 2021 | 81 min

This week, we talk about the absolute shake up of a week Big Oil had, and a Music Climate Revolution that starts TODAY.

First up, a shareholder vote to add three new members to the Exxon board succeeded as part of a strategy by activist hedge fund Engine No. 1 to address the twin concerns of climate change and Exxon’s poor financial performance. One of the new board members is our good friend, Andy Karsner! He joins us at the top of the episode for a quick update on what these seats at the table mean for the Oil and Gas industry moving forward, but especially for humanity and the climate.

Second, the unprecedented ruling by a Dutch Court which ordered Royal Dutch Shell to cut its carbon emissions by 45 percent from 2019 levels by 2030 happened. To give us an incredibly exciting executive summary is Lead Campaigner of the case against Shell, Friend of The Earth’s Nine de Pater.

And finally for our main interview, we are joined by Co-Founder and Co-Director of Reverb, Adam Gardner, who is also the vocalist and guitarist of the band, Guster.. From intention to action, he expresses the work that Reverb has been doing over the last 18 years to disrupt industry norms and increase the climate positive impact of the music touring industry. Acknowledging the unprecedented influence and reach that musicians have at their disposal, Adam, the newest stubborn optimist recruit, explains how environmentalism can be united with fans’ passion to drive positive change and achieve meaningful environmental, social justice and community gains.

And this week for music, we have the privilege of spinning the famous “Satellite” by Guster. Join us, won’t you?

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Adam Gardner

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Reverb

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Alexander “Andy” Karsner

Board of Directors | ExxonMobil

Nine de Pater

Lead Campaigner | Friends of The Earth

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103. Building a Movement to Fight a System with Jerome Foster II

27 maj 2021 | 70 min

On the back of the IEA report last week that shook the oil and gas industry, the G7 this week pledged not only to limit global warming to 1.5C, but to stop all new financing for overseas coal projects by the end of this year! An absolute breakthrough for the climate. We get into the geopolitics behind the G7 announcement and what it’s going to take to close the remaining 20+ GtCO2 gap left even after China and the US NDCs.

And our guest this week is championing and informing the policy behind climate and racial justice in the United States and beyond. After striking every Friday for 58 weeks in a row outside of the White House as part of the ‘School Strike for Climate’ movement, On March 29th 2021, Jerome Foster II was appointed the youngest ever member of the White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council. We talk with him about how young people are experiencing and meeting the massive social and political changes happening, and hear more about his vision for bringing about justice through US climate policy.

Stick around to the end of the episode for a live performance of “Justice” from Alfred Nomad!

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Jerome Foster II

Environmental Justice Advisory Council Member to the White House | Climate Justice Activist | Founder and Executive Director of One Million Of Us, Climate Reporter

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Our musical guest this week is Alfred Nomad!

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102. Cooling Conflict by Tackling the Climate Crisis with Jens Stoltenberg

20 maj 2021 | 79 min

This week on the show we discuss the latest IEA Report, “Net Zero by 2050” which charts a path for the energy sector to achieve a 1.5 degree world, and specifically naming the 400 milestones that will get us there. It’s an incredible marker in this decisive decade because the IEA is the gold standard for energy policy around the globe (particularly for Oil and Gas), and in this report they explicitly detail the urgent and irreversible need for a rapid and comprehensive shift away from fossil fuels.

And later on, an O+O first. We get into the connection between national security and climate change with our special guest, Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO. With his extensive career history, notably serving twice as Prime Minister of Norway and as UN Special Envoy on Climate Change, he has uniquely straddled both worlds of environmentalism and national security. We unpack how SG Stoltenberg views a military response to the climate crisis as NATO fulfilling it’s duty to secure today and tomorrow for its citizens.

Stick around to the end this week for a catchy tune from Milky Chance.

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Jens Stoltenberg

Secretary General of NATO

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101. A Fund for the Earth with Andrew Steer

13 maj 2021 | 76 min

This week, the Nature Agenda. A forest the size of France has regrown since 2000 and The Biden administration introduced its “America the Beautiful” plan. In it, they plan to conserve 30 percent of the nation’s land and water by 2030, calling it the country’s first-ever national conservation goal. Long overdue, but on the table.

Speaking of nature, later in the episode we discuss the role philanthropy can play in accelerating innovative actions and radical collaboration across movements to meet the impact of the climate crisis with the requisite attention. ‘A Fund for the Earth’ as it were.

We invite Dr. Andrew Steer, formerly President and CEO of the World Resources Institute, and as of April 2021, the CEO and President of the Bezos Earth Fund, to talk us through the opportunities and challenges ahead for philanthropy as we begin to make the systemic transition to a green economy. We ask how he will be looking to spend his whopping $10 Billion (with a B) budget to secure the SDGs by 2030 and create the biggest impact to accelerate various sectors towards their positive tipping points.

And an absolute smash this week in music from Marie Spaemann. Listen in!

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Andrew Steer

President & CEO, Bezos Earth Fund

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BONUS: Outrage + Optimism is 100 Episodes Strong! with Christiana, Tom and Paul

7 maj 2021 | 25 min

100. Financing The Race to Zero!

6 maj 2021 | 67 min

Welcome to the third episode of our Race To Zero series!

In this episode, we show you the money. Finance is an absolutely crucial factor in accelerating our world towards a Net-Zero future, and with less than 9 years left to halve our global emissions and current investments and markets spiraling towards catastrophic risk, it’s going to take every financial lever we have to shift the global economy to a sustainable, equitable, and just system.

On topics of investment, divestment, engagement, and tropical carbon pricing, you’ll hear from:

Mark Carney, UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26

Amal-Lee Amin, Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit

Thomas Di Napoli, New York State Comptroller

Carlos Manuel Rodriguez, CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility

Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director, IMF

And of course our good friend,

Nigel Topping, High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26

The race is on! Buckle up and hit play.

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Mark Carney

UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and Prime Minister Johnson’s Finance Adviser for COP26

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Amal-Lee Amin

Director of Climate Change at CDC and Senior Advisor to the UK COP26 Unit

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Thomas Di Napoli

New York State Comptroller

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Kristalina Georgieva

Managing Director, IMF

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Carlos Manuel Rodriguez

CEO and Chairperson of the Global Environment Facility

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99. Hope Is a Verb with Fred Krupp

29 april 2021 | 65 min

With the Biden U.S. Climate Summit barely in the rearview mirror, our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson unpack what this moment means for global leadership, ambition, and the gaps in the road ahead for the climate movement. The new U.S. NDC of 50% GHG reductions by 2030 sets the stage for the rest of the decade, so what is next?

And our interview this week is with Fred Krupp, long-serving President of the Environmental Defence Fund (EDF). We discuss one of the most pressing and, until now, overlooked issues of methane leakage and emissions, and their wildly powerful short-term warming potential. EDF is launching a satellite soon that will track methane emissions around the world to keep us all accountable. Amazing.

We also celebrate the announcement at the Biden summit of the launch of the LEAF Coalition, a project that the EDF is partnering in with both private sector and government participation, and the impact this private and public partnership will have on tackling the stubborn challenge of tropical deforestation on a meaningful scale.

And be sure to hang around for a live performance from ViVii of their song ‘One Day’!

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Fred Krupp

President of Environmental Defense Fund

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Their album “Mondays” is dropping May 21st!

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98. 100% Outrage and 100% Optimism with John Kerry

22 april 2021 | 63 min

Happy 51st Earth Day, everyone!

Today marks the first U.S. Earth Day Summit convened by President Joe Biden with the aim to strengthen climate ambition among invited world leaders ahead of the COP26 meeting in Glasgow in November.

And while the global community anticipates the details of the U.S’s own NDC announcement expected shortly before or at the summit itself, we speak to John Kerry in his role as Special Presidential Envoy for Climate, about his recent deployment overseas to meet delegates and colleagues ahead of the summit to discuss climate ambition and the urgent need for even more ambitious targets to be pledged in this most decisive decade.

And just before the interview, we bring the latest in climate news this week. We discuss the latest IEA report citing carbon dioxide emissions are forecast to jump this year by the second biggest annual rise in history, the UK’s Prime minister, Boris Johnson, pledging to reduce emissions 78 percent by 2035 compared to 1990 levels, and the U.S. Treasury appointing a climate counsellor, John Morton, to coordinate the efforts of a new climate hub focused on leveraging finance to confront the threat of climate change. Plus, we discuss the ratification of the Kigali Amendment to the Montreal Protocol.

It’s a busy Earth Day! Join in with us and listen!

And be sure to hang around after the interview for a musical treat from rock n’ soul legend-in-the-making, Aaron Frazer!

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97. Jojo Mehta on Ecocide and Ending Impunity

15 april 2021 | 67 min

With France banning short haul flights, John Kerry on his way to China and South Korea to talk climate just days ahead of The US Climate Summit, and The American Legislative Exchange Council (not so) secretly planning to fight Biden on climate, this episode is jam packed with things to discuss!

And speaking of things to discuss, have you heard of the word “Ecocide”? It’s a term describing something we all understand and know is wrong - the mass damage and destruction of ecosystems. But, yet it is still somehow legally permitted around the world.

This week, we explore the tireless work of Jojo Mehta and the Stop Ecocide Foundation who are pursuing their goal to have Ecocide added to the International Criminal Court (ICC) as a fifth crime alongside Genocide, War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity and Crimes of Aggression.

How would this fifth crime change corporate behavior? We can only assume it would act as a deterrent to environmental destruction, but could it also act as an accelerator of the goals of the Paris Agreement?

Stick around after the interview for a mesmerizing tune from Eliza Shaddad!

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Jojo Mehta

Co-Founder & Executive Director, Stop Ecocide International

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96. Climate Action Is the Adventure of Our Lives with Bertrand Piccard and Dee Caffari

8 april 2021 | 61 min

This week, the climate solutions are here, and they’re neatly labeled.

You may have heard of Bertrand Piccard, the explorer, balloonist, and ‘inspioneer’ who was the first to circumnavigate the globe in a solar powered aircraft in 2016. Well, since then, he’s been on a mission to support climate friendly technologies. With his Solar Impulse Foundation, he is close to having found, assessed and labeled 1000 cleantech solutions that have a positive impact on both the environment and the economy. Now he’s making sure that they get used. In our interview with him this week, we discuss his commitment to create and nurture innovative new ways of thinking that reconcile ecology and economy, providing a compelling argument for business and governments to act today to achieve planetary health and profit with his ‘Tao of Economics’.

And with Tom taking a well earned break away from hosting, we are delighted to introduce a special co-host for this episode, Dee Caffari, MBE! Dee is the first woman to have sailed single-handed and non-stop around the world in both directions and the only woman to have sailed non-stop around the world a total of three times! Yes, you read that right. Having witnessed personally the problem of single use plastics on ocean health, she uses her platform to raise awareness on Ocean health, sustainability, and a new danger - microplastics. Her fascinating first-hand experience and deep thinking on climate change makes determined ambition a reality.

Our adventure awaits!

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Bertrand Piccard

Chairman of the Solar Impulse Foundation | Explorer | Psychiatrist | Inspirational Speaker

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Solar Impulse

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Dee Caffari, MBE

Chair of the World Sailing Trust | World Record Holder | Author and Ocean Advocate

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Our musical guest this week is Easy Wanderlings!

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WATCH: Sofar Mumbai Performance

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BONUS: The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 2

1 april 2021 | 47 min

95. Sounds of Action! The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 1

1 april 2021 | 78 min

Welcome to the very first Volume of The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist!

Every week on the podcast we feature an artist who is thoughtful about the role of art and artists in the climate crisis. This week, we celebrate all the artists we have had on the show so far with 2 separate volumes for your listening enjoyment!

So without further ado, Vol. 1.

Enjoy the music!

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The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist Vol. 1:

(4:12) Ellie Goulding - Speaking

(5:18) She Drew The Gun - Trouble Every Day

(8:37) Blackout Problems - Dark

(12:14) Jelani Blackman - Pretty World

(15:42) Toukan Toukan - Konowoulen

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(19:49) Billy Bragg - King Tide and The Sunny Day Flood

(22:49) Robert 3D Del Naja - Speaking

(25:01) Massive Attack ft. Christiana Figueres - Eutopia

(28:32) Gaeya - Contact

(32:32) Cosmo Sheldrake - Speaking

(34:15) Cosmo Sheldrake - Cuckoo Song

(36:56) Nick Mulvey - Begin Again

(41:54) Baaba Mal - Leke

(44:44) AURORA - Speaking

(46:00) AURORA - The Seed

(50:43) Millie Turner - Underwater

(54:34) Ayoni - The Patriots

(58:47) Too Many T’s - Speaking

(01:01:18) Too Many T’s Not Enough Bees

(01:04:50) OK GO - All Together Now

(01:09:18) Aaron Taylor - Get Through This

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(01:12:06) AJR - Speaking

(01:14:02) AJR - Burn The House Down

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94. The Risk of Living Under a White Sky with Elizabeth Kolbert

25 mars 2021 | 59 min

With CO2 in the atmosphere now reaching levels 50% higher than when humanity began large-scale burning of fossil fuels during the industrial revolution, time is running out and some ecosystems are on the brink of collapse.

In light of this, some scientists and engineers are asking the question, can we act in time to save them? What do we do if we cannot reduce emissions in time? What tools will we have to save humanity?

This week we talk to Elizabeth Kolbert, Pulitzer-Prize winning author, activist, The New Yorker journalist, about her latest book Under a White Sky, a fascinating work that is asking the big questions: having meddled so much in our natural ecosystems, are we now able to save them and ourselves from the devastating effects of climate change? What form will these interventions take? Are the proposals such a genetically modified coral or solar geoengineering even possible? Will our sky be white?

Join us for a delightfully sobering conversation.

And stick around later in the show for a musical performance from Saunder Jurriaans!

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Grab a copy of Elizabeth’s new book, Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future!

Elizabeth is a Pulitzer-Prize winning author, and her books are available for purchase here:

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BONUS: What The Hale Does This Mean? with Thomas Hale: Net Zero Goals

22 mars 2021 | 19 min

93. The Race To Zero! Extreme Electrification with Nico Rosberg and Sara Price

18 mars 2021 | 64 min

This is the second episode in our Race To Zero series!

All evidence points to the tipping point for electrification of road transport, and the end of the internal combustion engine. But will this happen fast enough?

One of the key pillars of the Race to Zero is to accelerate the adoption of Zero Emissions Vehicles. Today, transport accounts for about 16% of global emissions, but is a much higher share of total emissions in industrialized countries. For example in the United States, transport accounts for nearly 30% of emissions and globally is a major source of the pollution causing one in ten deaths.

If we’re going to succeed in this, it’s going to take everyone. So how do we bring in new people to take action on climate change? And how do we reach and inspire a new generation to never purchase an internal combustion engine? We ask Nico Rosberg and Sara Price whether the innovative impact of Extreme E and its exciting partnership with citizen action campaign, Count Us In, can bring the power of sport and the excitement of motor racing, to inspire the public to apply pressure that spurs industry and government policy to accelerate the race to zero carbon.

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Nico Rosberg

Sustainability Entrepreneur | Founder & CEO of Rosberg X Racing

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Sara Price

Driver of the No. 99 Hummer EV

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92. Vicki Hollub Thinks Oil Has a (Low Carbon) Future

11 mars 2021 | 80 min

91. The Race to Zero! Road to COP26

5 mars 2021 | 65 min

Welcome to the first episode of our new Race To Zero series!

With COP26 as the vital milestone for climate action in November 2021, the promises and pledges made by governments must be converted into meaningful action beginning today. We know the EU, the UK and many other countries have net zero pledges but can they achieve them without a global collective effort?

And it’s not just up to governments - history has shown that political actors need the real economy to place wind in their sails. So with everything on the line and the clock ticking, the Race to Zero has no separation between winners and losers, and failure is NOT an option.

Joined this week by Rt Hon Alok Sharma MP, President-Designate of COP26, Patricia Espinosa, Executive Secretary of UNFCCC, Mary Anne Hitt, National Director of Campaigns for The Sierra Club, and Nigel Topping, High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26, we get a first hand look at what is at stake, who is stepping up, and how everyone can join the race to a better future.

And we’ll find out why COP26 is not just a 2 week event in November, but a race that has already begun.

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Guests this week

Alok Sharma

Rt Hon Alok Sharma MP, COP President Designate

Patricia Espinosa

Title: Executive Secretary of the UNFCCC

Mary Anne Hitt

National Director of Campaigns, Sierra Club

Nigel Topping

High Level Climate Action Champion for COP26

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90. Ferocious Love with Katharine Wilkinson

25 februari 2021 | 69 min

With a deep freeze in Texas leaving a wake of devastation, a UN Security Council Meeting weakly addressing climate change as the planet’s “gravest threat”, and massive investment for offshore wind in Denmark to produce green ammonia, there’s no shortage of things to be outraged by or optimistic about this week!

We are at a new political moment where we are seeing the ambition for a cleaner world, and we are seeing the economics weigh more and more towards phasing out fossil fuels. We’re even seeing the political winds shift toward championing racial, social, and economic justice! And at the heart of the climate movement that is deeply committed to making all of this possible is a ferocious love for our planet, nurtured and activated by a ‘feminist climate renaissance’ as our guest, Katharine Wilkinson, phrases it.

This week we talk to Katharine Wilkinson, author, teacher and former Editor-in-Chief at Project Drawdown, about her latest book co-edited with Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, ‘All We Can Save’, an anthology of women’s voices in the climate movement, and what is giving her a “fire in the belly and the heart” in tackling the climate crisis.

Our interview with Katharine gets into why she believes the climate crisis is ultimately a leadership crisis, and explores the idea of transformative leadership and emerging voices at the core of the climate movement which she describes as, “characteristically feminine, but also more committedly feminist in its commitment to equality and justice.”

And stick around later in the show for a musical performance from Desirée Dawson!

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89. The Ministry for the Future with Kim Stanley Robinson

18 februari 2021 | 70 min

On Friday, The United States will officially be back in the Paris Climate Agreement!

*cue appropriate volume of fanfare*

And while in a week where Dallas, Texas is colder than Anchorage, Alaska - our co-host Paul Dickinson takes us on a short list of topics discussing the social cost of carbon recently updated by Joseph Stiglitz and Lord Nicholas Stern to match the severity of the climate crisis, as well as a listener question regarding the unregulated growth and steadily growing emissions of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.

But all of this in context, with the US “still in” as it’s being promoted - We anxiously await the United States’ Nationally Determined Contribution which should be announced anytime between now and late April. Once that number comes through, the race to COP 26 will be at full speed where the very first 5 year check in of global accountability and ambition towards a net-zero 2050 and beyond will happen.

So with the world’s largest economy on track to boost the global coalition of nations dedicated to this collective goal, will we be able to achieve emission reductions fast enough to avoid catastrophe? This week our guest is legendary science fiction writer, Kim Stanley Robinson, whose prolific career includes the international bestselling Mars trilogy, and more recently Red Moon, New York 2140, Aurora, Shaman, Green Earth, and 2312. Stan joins us for an exclusive look into the themes of his latest book: The Ministry for the Future, which offers an unflinching look at what our future may hold even in 2025 if we do not address runaway climate change. Optimistically he says, “We are all living in a science fiction novel we are coauthoring together.”

So, what future will we write?

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88. Living on Planet Earth with Oliver Jeffers

11 februari 2021 | 66 min

According to new research by a team of U.S. and U.K. scientists published in Environmental Research, Fossil fuels alone are responsible for more than 8 million premature deaths annually. That’s 1 out of 5 deaths.

Let that sink in for a moment. 1 out of 5.

This figure underscores a fact absent from much public debate and discussion about climate change. While the fight to stop greenhouse gas pollution by curtailing fossil fuel use is framed in terms of how it would improve the future, it’s also true that fossil fuels are killing millions of people right now. And right now is the time to change our thinking.

But when Climate scientists and activists are continuously imploring us to ‘look at the bigger picture’ to address climate change right now, what does this mean? How do we do it?

These are questions that our Outrage + Optimism guest, Oliver Jeffers tackles in this week’s interview with Christiana, Tom and Paul, as he delves into how he performs this perspective shift by ‘simple optics’ in his award winning picture books and visual art.

Whether brought on by an experience of art, science, religious practice, grief, love or parenthood, there is a need for us all to undergo a change in perspective and see beyond our day to day concerns and routines to grow an awareness of ourselves as a human family with a shared duty to protect our Earth, our home, from growing climate catastrophe. Art like Oliver’s, provides the perfect vehicle for this transformational and necessary journey which we hope you will all join us on.

Music this week from the incredible Presidio. Listen in!

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Oliver delivered a series of free art classes for children (and adults) in partnership with Harrods in which he demonstrates how to draw some of his best loved characters from his books. His website also includes more free activities for children and their families.

An Ode to Living on the Earth is Oliver’s fantastic Ted Talk.

The Moon, The Earth and Us is Oliver Jeffers 2019 art installation.

This Way Up is the upside down map that Oliver Jeffers referenced in the interview. More of Oliver Jeffers’ art work is available here.

These are the temporary tattoos that Clay wants.

Here is the Dipped Painting Project.

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87. The Future of Urban Transport

4 februari 2021 | 69 min

This is our fourth and final episode of an Outrage + Optimism investigative series on The Future of Transport.

In 2019, UN Secretary General stated that “cities are where the climate battle will largely be won or lost” and he couldn’t be more right. With seven out of ten people expected to live in urban areas by 2050, and cities currently consuming ⅔ of the world’s energy, the need to transition off of fossil fuel based urban transport has never been more urgent.

But how do we solve deadly air pollution, traffic congestion, overcrowding while securing racial justice and a just transition for marginalized communities? The answer might surprise you. From flying taxis and high speed pods, to better bus routes and bike lanes, the urban transport solutions of the future look as unique and varied as the cities they might one day serve.

The future of sustainable cities will mean that billions of citizens can safely get around and enjoy healthy, equitable lives in our urban spaces. From Sao Paulo to London, Montreal to Kampala, Our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson speak to transport planners, pioneers and professors, all rising to the challenge of creating more sustainable cities.

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Guests this week:

Kevin Manaugh: Associate professor in the Department of Geography and The Bieler School of Environment at McGill University

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Pia Heidenmark Cook: Chief Sustainability Officer, Ingka Group

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Robin Chase: Co-founder of Zipcar, Veniam, NUMO

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Claire Birungi: Institute for Transportation & Development Policy, Country Manager, Uganda

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Sergio Avelleda: Urban Mobility Director at the World Resources Institute Ross Center For Sustainable Cities

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Jay Walder: CEO Virgin Hyperloop

Florian Reuter: CEO Volocopter

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Shirley Rodrigues: London’s Deputy Mayor for Environment and Energy

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86. The Scientific Case for The Race to Zero with Johan Rockström

28 januari 2021 | 70 min

Welcome to Season 3!

With a renewed sense of optimism felt around the world with the inauguration of President Joe Biden in the United States this month, our collective sigh of relief is quickly met with the sobering reality of the moment - Nature’s systems are collapsing and we are running out of time to stop irreversible changes to our planet.

The science is clear. If we do not rapidly cut global greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50% in 2030, we will push our Earth beyond the ‘planetary boundaries’ that have sustained life for millions upon millions of years.

So what exactly are these ‘planetary boundaries’ we are dangerously approaching, and what are the science-based solutions to achieve our 2030 emissions target? Is there hope for our future? Our guest this week, Johan Rockström, is here to present the sobering, scientific case for why science demands a united global commitment for the race to zero.

Johan Rockström is an internationally recognised scientist and director of the Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research. He is best known for his influential work on the ‘planetary boundaries’ framework on which he has delivered two outstanding Ted Talks, the most recent as part of the Ted Countdown series.

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20 januari 2021 | 53 min

85. The Future of Shipping

15 januari 2021 | 58 min

This is our third episode of an Outrage + Optimism investigative series on The Future of Transport.

With 2020 barely in the rearview mirror, the pandemic rages on across the globe, new variants bringing concern and unified collective action to the forefront as a rapidly developed vaccine begins being administered as we speed into 2021.

That same resolve needs to be applied to climate change and the sectors in most urgent need of decarbonisation. And this week, we dive into the future of sustainable shipping.

We rarely ever think about the things we buy as being transported by sea, but shipping has been the backbone of global economies for thousands of years and today accounts for 90% of world trade. It is responsible for 2-3% of global emissions which if it were a country, would put it on a par with Germany - the world’s sixth biggest emitter.

The challenge to decarbonise shipping is huge. With around 60,000 vessels currently in operation emissions are expected to be 50% higher in 2050 than in 2018.

So how to turn this ship around? Our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson speak to scientists, CEOs, politicians and pioneers committed to charting a course to a more sustainable shipping future.

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Guests this week

Jutta Paulus, MEP, Greens/EFA

Erik Lewenhaupt, Head of Sustainability, Stena Line

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Jacques Vandermeiren, CEO, Port of Antwerp

Peter Hinchliffe, Former Secretary General, International Chamber of Shipping

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Louis-Noel Vivies, Managing Director, Energy Observer

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Diane Gilpin, CEO and founder, Smart Green Shipping

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Simon Bullock, Researcher, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Manchester

James Mason, Researcher, Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Manchester

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Nishan Degnarain, Chair, Ocean Finance Initiative, London School of Economics

Søren Skou, CEO of A.P. Møller - Mærsk

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Jules Kortenhorst, CEO of Rocky Mountain Institute

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BONUS: A Great Regeneration with Andrew Higham and Mission 2020

6 januari 2021 | 41 min

84. The 2020 Christmas Lectures: A User's Guide to Planet Earth with Dr. Helen Czerski, Prof. Chris Jackson and Dr. Tara Shine

25 december 2020 | 48 min

With the first year in the most decisive decade in history coming to a close, we wrap up Season 2 of Outrage and Optimism by being visited by 3 Christmas Ghos...ahem...Scientists.

...That’s a Charles Dickens joke.

But all joking aside, you are in for a real treat this episode.

The Royal Institution Christmas Lectures have taken place every Christmas since 1825 in the UK. Started as a way to educate the public about science, it has become an annual tradition loved by families across the globe, both adults and children alike.

So in this episode, Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson sit down with the three Christmas Lecturers this year, Dr. Helen Czerski, Professor Chris Jackson, and Dr. Tara Shine, all expert scientists from different fields who will be addressing the unique challenge of climate change by unravelling our astonishing global systems and remarkable natural wonders that combine to keep life on Earth alive.

This year the program is titled, “Planet Earth: A User’s Guide

And don’t be fooled. “Lecture” might be a bit dull of a term to describe what happens at this annual event. Explosions, experiments, and demonstrations abound in this exciting and engaging program.

So grab your popcorn and hot chocolate, and listen in as we are visited by 3 different scientists this Christmas - Each guiding us to see a perspective on how we can each protect our climate from changing and create a more equitable and sustainable world.

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The 2020 Christmas Lecturers:

Dr. Helen Czerski

Professor Chris Jackson

Dr. Tara Shine

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83. How Europe is Racing to Zero with Frans Timmermans and Nigel Topping

18 december 2020 | 65 min

82. The Paris Effect with Laurence Tubiana

11 december 2020 | 81 min

Show notes: The Paris Effect

On December 12th, 2015 the landmark Paris Agreement was adopted by 195 countries as the first unanimously agreed climate change treaty. It has become a symbol of collaboration, a spirit of shared interest merging harmoniously with enlightened self-interest. This weekend is the 5th anniversary of the Paris Agreement’s adoption and, as we near the end of an extremely challenging 2020, it’s time to celebrate the phenomenal changes that have happened and are happening in the real economy. We have not one, but two phenomenal guests this week.

France's former Climate Change Ambassador and Special Representative for the 2015 COP21 Climate Change Conference in Paris, Laurence Tubiana, joins us to discuss the nail-biting process with our hosts, Christiana Figueres, who oversaw the delivery of the Paris Agreement as the former UN Climate Chief at the time, Tom Rivett-Carnac (former chief political strategist for Figueres) and Paul Dickinson, Executive Chair of CDP. This is a no holding back chat about how history was made, their outrage about what has not happened yet, and the extraordinary achievements that have already taken place – now known as the Paris Effect.

Also, we have an Outrage + Optimism SURPRISE conversation with New York City based band, AJR plus an exclusive performance of their global hit, Burn the House Down (figuratively, not literally!).

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81. Climate Justice and Racial Justice with David Lammy

4 december 2020 | 63 min

80. The Future of Fuels

27 november 2020 | 59 min

This is our second episode of an Outrage + Optimism investigative series on The Future of Transport. There’s no denying that for over a century, fossil fuels have played a key role in humanity’s progress. But at a cost. They account for two-thirds of global greenhouse-gas emissions, and the pollution from burning them kills more than 4 million people a year.

So in a year where cars sat unused, and oil prices crashed...what is the future of fuels? We know that in order to meet the Paris Agreement, we need to reduce CO2 emissions by 50% by 2030. Because even though COVID-19 is expected to reduce energy-related CO2 emissions by 7% this year, we need massive changes in how we move people and things.

So will we see the end of the internal combustion engine? How will the world go electric? Can hydrogen scale to meet our energy demands? Our hosts Tom Rivett-Carnac, Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson pull out the roadmap to a zero-emission future, hit the road looking for answers to a decarbonized transport sector with experts who are in the driver's seat.

Read Tom’s blog to find out more from behind the scenes.

Watch David Lammy’s TED Talk before listening next week!

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Guests this week:

Ramez Naam, Singularity University

Monica Araya, Climate Champion

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Mary Nichols, CA Air and Resources Board

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Martin Daum, Daimler

Alejandro Agag, Formula E

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Craig Knight, Hyzon Motors

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Sara Forni, CERES

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Robert Llewellyn, Fully Charged

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79. Everything Is Possible with Sanda Ojiambo

20 november 2020 | 58 min

78. Adrenaline, Stamina and Joy with Xiye Bastida

13 november 2020 | 60 min

With young voter turnout in the US election the highest it has been in 40 years, President-Elect Joe Biden is heading to the White House with a mandate to address the climate crisis head on, following on his promises he made during his campaign.

So along with the shock of having a President that acknowledges the climate crisis poses some absolutely crucial questions: What do we do with someone in power who is listening to climate activists? What do we focus on achieving first? How do we work with someone who will inevitably not go as far as we want them to go on climate? Who wins, and in what order in a multi-polar political world?

Our special guest this week has an incredible perspective on the intersectionality of climate and social justice, and is mobilizing and energizing tens of thousands of people to raise their voices and bring about a world where things like food sovereignty is law, and we don’t see trees and oceans as natural resources but sacred elements.

Xiye Bastida is a Mexican-Chilean climate activist and member of the indigenous Mexican Otomi-Toltec nation. She is one of the major organizers of Fridays for Future New York City and has been a leading voice for indigenous and immigrant visibility in climate activism. She is on the administration committee of the People's Climate Movement and a member of Sunrise Movement and Extinction Rebellion. She is co-founder of Re-Earth Initiative, an international not for profit organization that is inclusive and intersectional “just as the climate movement should be.”

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77. U.S. Election Special: A New Optimism with Ben Rhodes and Todd Stern

7 november 2020 | 63 min

76. Decision Time 2020 with John Podesta

30 oktober 2020 | 71 min

75. Optimism and Earthshots with Prince William

22 oktober 2020 | 60 min

74. The Future of Flight

16 oktober 2020 | 44 min

73. Prelude to TED Countdown with Chris Anderson and Lindsay Levin

9 oktober 2020 | 51 min

72. No Room for Being Cynical with Ted Danson

2 oktober 2020 | 67 min

BONUS: Climate Leadership Now with Alok Sharma, Kara Hurst and We Mean Business

29 september 2020 | 52 min

71. We Can Only Face the Future if We Do it Together with Achim Steiner

25 september 2020 | 65 min

70. BP's Road to Rebuilding Trust with CEO Bernard Looney

18 september 2020 | 69 min

69. Climate Action is a Team Sport with Uber's Dara Khosrowshahi

11 september 2020 | 57 min

It all started one cold night in Paris in December 2008. Two American friends visiting the city couldn’t get a taxi and this frustration inspired them to ask ‘what if’? What if it were possible to order a car ride with a simple tap on your mobile? Since both came from successful San Francisco tech backgrounds, it wasn’t surprising that this personal experience led to the creation of the company that is today the global tech on-demand transportation platform, Uber.

Now Uber is all grown up. It’s a publicly listed company, known for fuelling the gig economy – and has become embedded in our language and culture. The company operates in over 10,000 cities in 69 countries with a variety of services beyond personal rides including UberEats, cycle share schemes and more. Uber however has not stopped asking ‘what if’ and has chosen this crucial decade to set itself the challenge of integrating global climate targets with a seamless user experience.

Outrage + Optimism hosts, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson talked to Uber’s CEO Dara Khosrowshahi about the company’s announcement this week of its commitment to meet the goal of net zero by 2040, a bold and necessary step to tackle the climate crisis. We are fascinated by the potential this has for changing the culture of the 5 million active drivers and for millions of Uber riders taking 18 million trips between them every day. To fuel the greener electrified system, app users will have the option to favour drivers of hybrid and electric cars through Uber Green, and in future, can select from different forms of mobility based on their priorities at any given moment – cost, time, or carbon. Uber says they will literally put the power on our fingertips to contribute to the greening of our cities. You can listen to the whole episode here.

Why does Uber’s announcement this week really matter to people who live in cities around the world?

The Paris Agreement, signed by 195 counties in 2015, calls for a unifying goal to reach net zero emissions by 2050. This is based on the global scientific consensus that doing so will allow us to stay below 1.5C of global warming, beyond which it becomes more economically and socially disruptive to live with the effects of climate change.

According to the EPA transportation accounts for 28.2% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the United States of America. Most of this comes from the emissions of cars, trucks, ships and other forms of transportation. Over 90% of the fuels used in transportation are from fossil fuels, mainly oil (or petroleum) sources. These not only cause damage to the environment, they cause the air pollution around the world that results in the premature deaths of 7 million people every year, according to the World Health Organisation. During the COVID-19 crisis, people with underlying respiratory health issues have been more likely to die when they contract the virus, so we need to converge the solutions to the climate change, inequality, health and economic crises.

Cities, where the vast majority of Uber rides take place, account for 70% of global carbon emissions and are home to more than half of all people on earth. As the world continues to urbanise, making cities sustainable is one of the biggest challenges – and opportunities – that we have. We will need resilient cities that support a good quality of life for all. By 2050 there will be 9 billion of us on the planet and 68% of us will live in cities. This means the frontlines of climate change are the cities of the world and moves like Uber’s will make cities more liveable and critically enable urban populations to survive and thrive in a new co-created urban economy.

By committing to net zero by 2040, Uber plans to play its part in tackling the most pressing issues facing humanity in this, the most decisive decade in human history. Dara Khosrowshahi’s letter explaining the company’s commitment is available to read here: https://www.uber.com/en-GB/newsroom/leadership/dara-khosrowshahi/

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