In episode 25, Ivet and me start with a general overview of the elastic network theory and its applications to biology, as well as its strengths and limitations. Ivet then tells us about the specific takeaways from the different lines of her research, talking about evolutionary dynamics signatures, mode excitations in allosteric effects, as well as her recent research on the relevance of hinge regions for drug discovery. We talk about the relevance of the proteins-as-graphs picture for machine learning, and end up with a few general reflections about the complementary roles of persistence and alertness in scientific careers.