Dr. Martin Gutmann - Why Haven't You Heard of Roald Amundsen?

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Martin Gutmann is a lecturer at the Lucerne School of Business, Switzerland. He was previously the Managing Director of ETH Zurich’s Swiss School of Public Governance and Professor at the American Graduate School of Business, Switzerland.

Gutmann has a Ph.D. in History from the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs, Syracuse University, USA and an Executive MBA from IE Business School, Spain. His writing has appeared in Journal of Contemporary History, Studies in Conflict and Terrorism, Journal of Modern European History, and Journal of Contemporary European History.

Select Publications by Dr. Gutmann

• Historians on Leadership and Strategy: Case Studies From Antiquity to Modernity 
• Building a Nazi Europe: The SS's Germanic Volunteers
• “The nature of total war: Grasping the global environmental dimension of World War Two,” History Compass, 13/5 (2015), 251-261.

Quotes From This Episode

• "I can't think of another human activity in which one person's success stands so far above that of all the other contenders...he is the absolute superstar. He's the outlier in terms of polar exploration."
• "The other thing I’d say about historical cases is often we can be more accurate in assessing the role of the leader versus contributing factors in the successful or unsuccessful outcome. Because we have the perspective of time, so we have a more neutral mindset. But in many cases, there are also better sources available. And we’ve had time to look at those sources. And we can see the long term implications of the decisions that were made."
• "When we think of expeditions, we think of the leader standing at the helm, shouting directions and waving at his crew as the ship weaves in and out of the ice. We think of movement and danger and split-second decisions. In navigating the Northwest Passage, the real challenge was wintering. You know, this waterway froze solid. There are only about one to three months, if you are lucky, where you can move. So you had to expect to spend nine to 11 months frozen in place."
• "He made a point to avoid what he called irksome discipline. And he picked individuals who had particular skillsets so that they could have a sense of autonomy and ownership over a particular domain of the expedition. So one of the guys he took with had no meaningful arctic skills. But he was super jolly and he was a great cook."
• "And when we look at what he does, he’s an authentic leader long before this becomes an 'in' concept. And he knew that he would be stuck with these men in this cramped space for years. So they were not just his subordinates and his employees, they were his friends. They were his family."

Resources Mentioned In This Episode

• Alex Honnold Breaks Down Famous Rock Climbing Scenes
• Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris by Ian Kershaw
• The Bat: A Harry Hole Novel by Jo Nesbo
• How to Train Your Dragon 

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• Barbara Kellerman
• Mike Roberto