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Election Day has finally arrived! Kara and Scott discuss the last-minute polls, the debate over equal time on TV, and how this became the "Elon Election." Plus, the final predictions about the race. And if you're feeling stressed out by the election, Friend of Pivot Dan Harris is here to help. Dan is the host of the "10% Happier Podcast" and he shares his tips for reducing election anxiety.

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Kara and Scott discuss the rise and fall of Trump Media stock, and whether or not it's an accurate predictor for the election. Plus, Biden's "garbage" comments create a headache for Democrats, Trump vows to protect women whether they "like it or not," and is it too late for Harris to go on Joe Rogan's podcast? Then, what the latest earnings from Alphabet, Meta, and Microsoft reveal about the AI arms race. Our Friend of Pivot is "Face the Nation" moderator Margaret Brennan. Margaret shares what she'll be watching for on Election Day, and why she finds the current information environment so concerning.

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Kara and Scott are back with part two of Pivot's special series on the basics of artificial intelligence. How is AI revolutionizing the workplace? And what are the skills workers need to learn to stay ahead? Andrew McAfee, MIT research scientist and co-founder of Workhelix, explains why he doesn't think AI is a job killer, and shares the advice he gives to business leaders about integrating AI into workflows.

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With one week to go until the election, Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden, and the role of Jeff Bezos in The Washington Post's decision not to endorse a presidential candidate. Plus, Michelle Obama sends a message to male voters in what Scott calls "the most powerful speech given in 2024." Then, Elon Musk has reportedly been in contact with Vladimir Putin since 2022, but will the U.S. government take action? Our Friend of Pivot is Daniel Lubetzky, founder of Kind Snacks, and the newest permanent investor on "Shark Tank." Daniel explains how his Builders Movement initiative is trying to hold politicians accountable for toxic polarization, and shares some behind-the-scenes stories from "Shark Tank."

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Kara and Scott discuss Apple scaling back production of Apple Vision Pro headsets, and a mother suing Character.AI, claiming a chatbot encouraged her teenage son to commit suicide. Then, Tesla’s Q3 earnings beat expectations, and Starbucks preliminary quarterly results disappoint yet again. Plus, the podcast election continues with former President Trump going on Joe Rogan, and VP Kamala Harris sitting down with Brené Brown. In more election news, Trump’s former Chief of Staff, John Kelly warns that Trump is a fascist, and the secret big names donating to Harris. Stick around for listener mail to hear Scott’s tips for teaching kids how to negotiate.

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Kara and Scott are back in your feeds for a special series on the basics of Artificial Intelligence. What should you use it for? What tools are right for you? And what privacy issues should you watch out for? Kylie Robison, Senior AI Reporter for The Verge, joins Pivot with a primer on how to integrate AI into your life.

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Kara and Scott discuss Disney's succession plans, and Netflix's latest blockbuster earnings. Then, a new report details tensions between Microsoft and OpenAI. But could the two companies realistically walk away from their partnership? Plus, Donald Trump's closing argument takes a vulgar turn, and Elon Musk's million dollar giveaway faces legal scrutiny. Our Friends of Pivot are Chantal Fernandez from The Cut, and Lauren Sherman from Puck. Chantal and Lauren have teamed up to write the new book, "Selling Sexy: Victoria’s Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon."

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Kara and Scott discuss the latest from the campaign trail: VP Kamala Harris’s potential Joe Rogan appearance, former President Trump’s musical rally, and Elon Musk’s $75 million donation to his pro-Trump Super PAC. Plus, Elon’s big Cybercab reveal, Big Tech's nuclear energy buy-in, and a listener question on financial planning with a parent. Also, answer our listener poll on Threads, here!

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Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher.

Kara is chatting with Bill Gates, the co-founder and former CEO of Microsoft, and the co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Bill has been one of the richest people in the world for decades, and he's also spent decades giving away his fortune and working on some of humanity’s most vexing challenges. That’s the focus of his Netflix docuseries What’s Next? The Future with Bill Gates, where he dives into AI, misinformation, global warming, inequality, and disease. Kara pushes him on the issues, his proposed solutions, and the always tricky details — plus, she finds out who Bill wants to win the presidential election. 

This interview was recorded in front of a live audience in New York City.

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Kara and Scott discuss the highlights of VP Kamala Harris’s press blitz, TikTok being sued by 14 states, and the much-anticipated Tesla robotaxi event. Plus, the DOJ is considering breaking up Google to address its monopoly power on search. Also, a conversation about the danger of hurricane conspiracy theories. Then, our Friends of Pivot Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner join to talk about their new book, “Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father’s Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success.”

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Kara and Scott discuss Kamala Harris's big media blitz, and the podcast (aside from Pivot) that she should really appear on. Then, Elon Musk leapt into the air at Donald Trump's weekend rally in Pennsylvania, and a lot of people had thoughts. Plus, Google is finally facing some real competition when it comes to the $300 billion search advertising business. Our Friend of Pivot is Chris Urmson, founder and CEO of Aurora, a start-up focusing on autonomous trucking. Chris explains how Aurora is getting driverless trucks on the road, and why the technology could be good for the economy.

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Kara and Scott discuss OpenAI’s huge new valuation, and Elon Musk’s “corporate puffery.” Then, in election news, a civil VP debate, and newly revealed evidence in the Trump federal election case. Also, Elon Musk has been a Republican donor for far longer than we knew. Plus, the political and economics impacts of Hurricane Helene. Stay tuned for listener mail to hear Kara and Scott’s dating advice!

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Kara and Scott discuss California governor Gavin Newsom's veto of the AI bill that divided Big Tech, and Trump Media co-founders dumping $100 million worth of stock. Then, JD Vance and Tim Walz face off, Donald Trump's latest comments hit new lows, and is Kamala Harris leaning into crypto? Plus, a peek at OpenAI's financials reveals massive gains, but bigger losses. Will that be a problem for investors? Our Friend of Pivot is Mike Maples Jr., co-founder of the VC firm, Floodgate, and author of the new book, "Pattern Breakers: Why Some Start-Ups Change the Future." Mike talks about what makes for a successful start-up, and shares the story behind one of his biggest misses.

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Kara and Scott discuss the biggest announcements from Meta’s Connect conference, and...that shirt. Then, OpenAI executives are jumping ship while the company attempts to go for-profit. Plus, VP Harris has laid out her “pragmatic” economic plans, and former President Trump keeps talking tariffs. Then, a listener question on the role of private equity.

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Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft's plan to reopen Three Mile Island to power its data centers, and Qualcomm's potential takeover of Intel. Then, Nike gets a new CEO, but will the corporate shake-up get Nike back in the game? Plus, Trump's bizarre messaging around abortion, and Kamala Harris's attempt to get another debate on the calendar. Our Friends of Pivot are New York Times reporters Kate Conger and Ryan Mac, who are out with a new book, "Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter." Kate and Ryan share behind-the-scenes stories from Elon's Twitter takeover, and weigh in on the latest chaos in Elon-land.

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Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's crypto plans, and Melania's bizarre promotional videos for her book. Then, Instagram is rolling out teen accounts, with default privacy for users under 18, messaging restrictions, and more. Will these changes do some actual good, or will they just help Instagram avoid scrutiny and regulation? Plus, the Fed makes a major rate cut – what does that mean for consumers and investors? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is actor and writer, Justin Theroux. Justin chats about his new movie, "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice," how he's experimenting with AI, and why he's a Pivot superfan.

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Kara and Scott discuss the apparent assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and what impact (if any) this will have on the election. Then, Tiktok has its day in court, the Biden administration cracks down on Shein and Temu, and what we're learning about OpenAI's future plans. Our Friend of Pivot is longtime tech journalist Evan Ratliff, who embarked on AI experiment with his new podcast, "Shell Game." Plus, Kara and Scott share some fun stories from the big birthday weekend in Scotland.

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Kara and Scott discuss the highs and lows of the presidential debate, the potential power of Taylor Swift's endorsement, and Elon's creepy offer. Then, Kara shares what she saw at Apple's big "Glowtime" event, and what to expect from the newest AI products. Plus, a listener mail question on the role of parents when it comes to keeping kids safe online.

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Kara and Scott discuss the court battle over Rupert Murdoch's empire set to get underway this week. Then, Google and the DOJ are facing off for another major trial, this time Google is facing antitrust claims about its ad business. Plus, predictions on the presidential debate. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are sports icons, Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe, who are now offering expert analysis every week on their podcast, "A Touch More." Sue and Megan talk about how women's sports has become a booming business, the pros and cons of athletes using social media, and the importance of being politically engaged.

Check out Vox Media's "A Touch More: The Podcast" weekly on Wednesdays on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify.

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Kara and Scott are reunited and it feels so good! They talk about the latest election polls, tech stocks continuing to struggle, and Apple's role in child safety legislation. Then, after Brazil blocks X, will other countries take on Elon Musk? Plus, what the heck is founder mode and why is everyone in Silicon Valley talking about it? Finally, a listener mail question about the future of Trump Media, as the stock plummets to new lows.

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There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of becoming law. It’s called KOSPA: the Kids Online Safety and Privacy Act, which passed in the Senate with overwhelming bipartisan support late last month. At a high level, KOSPA could radically change how tech platforms handle speech in an effort to try and make the internet safer for minors. 

Nilay Patel talks with Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who’s been covering these bills for months now, to explain what’s happening, what these bills actually do, and what the path forward for this legislation looks like.

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Kara is joined by her brother Jeff Swisher, her son Louie Swisher, and best friend of Pivot George Hahn! They discuss the upcoming debate rules and the state of the race, Mark Zuckerberg saying he felt “pressured” to “censor” Covid-19 content, and burnout among teachers and parents. Also a new COVID-19 vaccine is here – when should you get it? Then, a discussion on rawdogging flights… because why not?

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Kara and guest host Adam Grant discuss whether Democrats can keep running on the politics of joy, the contrasting types of masculinity on the ballot, and the effective leadership tactics that everyone can learn from this election cycle. Plus, what the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov means for social media platforms and tech execs. Then, our Friend of Pivot is Anupreeta Das, a New York Times journalist, and the author of the new book, "Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World." Anupreeta explains how Bill Gates has shape-shifted for better and for worse over the years.

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Laura Coates joins Kara as co-host to discuss all things DNC! Top speakers, funny moments, and better vibes than the RNC. And of course, Tim Walz’s pep talk for the country. Plus, the latest on the race: RFK Jr. plans to drop out and endorse former President Trump. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham.

Watch Kara and Scott’s interviews with Congressman Maxwell Frost, and Senators Michael Bennet, Mark Kelly and Amy Klobuchar on our YouTube channel here.

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Pivot is at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago! Scott is stuck outside the security perimeter, but you'll still hear from him. Meanwhile, Kara sits down with CNN'S Audie Cornish and Politico's Eli Stokols to break down what Harris and the Democrats need to accomplish this week, and whether it matters that Harris hasn't done an interview since becoming the Democratic candidate. Plus, Governor Tim Walz joins TikTok with his signature dad humor. Can a TikTok ticket translate into actual votes?

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Comedian Mike Birbiglia joins Kara to discuss the legal backlash to President Trump and Elon Musk's X event, the role of humor in the Harris campaign, and Starbucks tapping Chipotle’s CEO. Plus, Governor Gavin Newsom wants schools to restrict cellphone use, and streamer Tubi is defying expectations. Then, Mike answers your questions! Did he influence J.D. Vance’s love of couches? How does he approach storytelling? And most importantly…is Scott funny?

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Kara is joined by guest host Mehdi Hasan to discuss Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount announcing major write-offs for their cable assets, and Elon Musk facing yet another lawsuit. Then, what the latest poll numbers reveal about the state of the presidential race, plus Donald Trump's false claims that Kamala Harris rally photos are AI-generated. Our Friend of Pivot is Anthony Scaramucci, former White House Communications Director, and the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital. The Mooch explains why he thinks major changes are coming to the Trump campaign, and shares a wild prediction about the race.

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Noel King joins Kara as co-host to discuss the latest global market moves, NASA needing help from SpaceX, and whether empathy punishments work. Then, Tim Walz joins the Democratic ticket, how will the GOP campaign against him ? Plus, X has filed a federal antitrust suit against advertisers. Then, Noel and Kara make predictions on who will play Tim Walz on SNL, and what celebs the invigorated Democratic National Convention will attract.

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Kara and Scott discuss the global stock market sell-off, and why people shouldn't panic. Then, Berkshire Hathaway unloads nearly half of its stake in Apple as the company's cash stockpile increases, and what's behind the reported growing tensions between Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. Plus, Donald Trump ditches the previously scheduled ABC debate, and insists on Fox News or nothing. Our Friend of Pivot is Jonathan Kanter, the Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's Antitrust Division. Jonathan gives his immediate reaction to the landmark Google antitrust ruling, and explains the repercussions for tech and beyond.

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Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's disastrous interview at the National Association of Black Journalists’ conference, the hundreds of VCs pledging their support to Kamala Harris, and the narrowing VP race. Plus, the latest earnings from Meta and Microsoft, and the Senate finally takes action with online regulation for kids. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Democratic Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis.

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Kara and Scott discuss Biden's proposal to reform the Supreme Court, and Rupert Murdoch's real-life succession drama. Then, Elon is dealing with some family drama of his own, as his estranged daughter and his ex's mother call him out on social media. He also seems to have violated his own platform's policies, by sharing a deep fake of a Kamala Harris ad. Plus, Donald Trump courts the Bitcoin bros and Christian voters, as Kamala raises millions. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Anne Applebaum, staff writer at The Atlantic, and author of "Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World." Anne explains how the current group of world autocrats will stop at nothing to gain absolute power, and digs into the dangers of a Trump second term.

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Kara and Scott discuss Kamala Harris's poll numbers in the face of GOP attacks, Biden's farewell speech, and what Taylor Swift will do about it all. Then, tech stocks tumble after underwhelming earnings reports from Tesla and Alphabet. Then we’re joined by our Friend of Pivot, Dr. Anthony Fauci, to talk about his new memoir, “On Call: A Doctor’s Journey in Public Service.”

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Kara and Scott discuss Joe Biden passing the torch to Kamala Harris, and how she'll do against Trump. Also, who will be her VP? Friend of Pivot, New York Times Opinion Columnist Lydia Polgreen joins them to discuss. Then, the ongoing fallout from the CrowdStrike update that caused 8.5 million devices to crash on Friday.

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Kara and Scott discuss Biden's campaign crisis, and what happens next. Then, a number of Kara's favorite tech bros are lining up behind Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. How much influence could they have if Trump wins the election? Plus, Elon plans to relocate X and SpaceX to Texas, and Google is in talks for its largest acquisition ever.

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Kara and Scott react to the news of Donald Trump's VP pick, J.D. Vance, in real time. Then, they discuss whether Americans can actually "lower the temperature," following the Trump assassination attempt. Plus, a closer look at the conspiracy theories and misinformation now swirling around social media, and how Elon Musk is trying to shape the narrative. Our Friend of Pivot is David Plouffe, former Obama campaign manager, and current co-host of "The Campaign Managers" podcast. David explains what's changed (and what hasn't) about the presidential race following the shooting, and whether the calls for Biden to drop out will now go away.

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Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft and Apple ditching OpenAI board seats, the proposed ban on congressional stock trading, and Tesla's EV market share dipping below 50% for the first time. Then, calls for Biden to drop out of the race are mounting, but will the president just wait out the clock? Plus, what the GOP's new platform reveals about a Trump second term, including the implications for Big Tech. Finally, a listener question on deciding where to go for college.

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Kara and Scott discuss Biden's decision to stay in the race, and what alternate scenarios might look like. Then, after months of negotiations, the Paramount and Skydance merger appears to be (finally) happening. Plus, Apple gets a seat on OpenAI's board, and Threads turns one. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brian Derrick, a political strategist, and the founder and CEO of Oath, a fundraising platform that aims to maximize campaign donations. Brian explains how donors are reacting to Biden's continued candidacy, and reveals the high-stakes statewide elections that people should be paying attention to.

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Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher.

Kara interviews Mira Murati, Chief Technology Officer at OpenAI, and one of the most powerful people in tech. Murati has helped the company skyrocket to the forefront of the generative AI boom, and Apple’s recent announcement that it will soon put ChatGPT in its iPhones, iPads and laptops will only help increase their reach. But there have been some issues along the way - including CEO Sam Altman's brief ouster, accusations of putting profit over safety, and the controversy over whether the company stole Scarlett Johansson's voice. Kara and Murati discuss it all.

This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their new Discovery Series.

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Pivot’s special series on the future of travel wraps up with a last stop: planes. What exactly is happening with Boeing? How will AI play a role in aviation? And most importantly, what is everyone’s favorite, and least favorite airport? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Pete Muntean, CNN's aviation and transportation correspondent, who also happens to be a pilot and flight instructor.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Supreme Court's Trump immunity ruling, and some of the controversial opinions from this term. Then, frustrations, fears, and theories after Biden's disastrous debate. Plus, Amazon prepares to compete in the on-demand fashion arena with Shein and Temu. Can it be a contender? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Kim Scott, a former Google and Apple executive, and the author of "Radical Respect: How To Work Together Better." Kim explains how to effectively manage employees with respect, as well as candor.

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Kara and Scott discuss Nvidia’s roller coaster week, Waymo making robotaxis available for everyone in San Francisco, and what's next for Julian Assange after his release. Then, the Supreme Court rules in favor of the Biden administration in a social media content moderation case. Will that set a precedent for future social media/misinformation rulings? Plus, Volkswagen gives Rivian a $5 billion shot in the arm. Is the deal a win-win for both companies? Finally, a listener challenges Scott on whether OpenAI should really be a for-profit company.

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Pivot's special series on the future of travel rolls on — next stop, electric vehicles. Is the slowdown in EV sales a temporary blip, or part of a larger trend? When will individuals get a piece of charging station revenues? And what will be the ultimate gamechanger to get people to buy these cars? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Beia Spiller, an energy economist, and the Transportation Program Director for Resources for the Future.

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Kara and Scott roll their eyes over the latest Elon stories, including the news of his 12th child, and his criticism of Melinda French Gates’ political donations. Then, are longtime adversaries Apple and Meta putting their differences aside for a new AI partnership? Plus, with the presidential debate just a few days away, Kara and Scott share their advice for the candidates. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brené Brown, host of the Vox Media podcasts, "Unlocking Us" and "Dare to Lead." Brené explains why she stepped away from podcasting (and why she returned), what worries her about social media, and how people can deal with election anxiety.

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Kara and Scott are live at Cannes! They discuss Elon's plan to win back advertisers, and the Surgeon General's proposal for warning labels on social media. Then, what brands are using AI most effectively right now? Plus, the EU's hard-right parties just harnessed the youth vote in recent elections. What role will the younger generation of voters play in the upcoming U.S. presidential election?

Recorded on June 18th at the AdWeek House in Cannes, France

DISCLAIMER/ONLY IN CANNES: Our live taping of Pivot in Cannes had some brief competition from the Olympic torch passing by. That led to some mild audio interference at the top of the show. We've minimized it as much as possible, and hope it doesn't impact your enjoyment!

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All aboard for Pivot's special series on the future of travel, examining the big changes coming to the way we get around the world! Will 2024 be the year that high-speed rail becomes reality in the United States? How did the U.S. get so far behind other countries? And what cities have the best train systems? On this episode, Kara and Scott talk trains with Yonah Freemark, the principal research associate at the Urban Institute, who also writes the blog, The Transport Politic.

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Kara and Scott discuss the drama surrounding the Washington Post's new publisher and incoming editor, as well as Amazon's One Medical facing questions about its call centers. Then, Stanford's Internet Observatory, a prominent disinformation research group, is facing an uncertain future amid ongoing political attacks. Plus, OpenAI announces its newest board member, and might be moving closer to becoming a for-profit company. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is California State Senator Scott Wiener. Senator Wiener is working to pass an AI regulation bill, but not everyone in Silicon Valley is happy about it.

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Kara and Scott discuss North Dakota voting in favor of placing age restrictions on congressional candidates, X making likes private, and Tesla shareholders voting on Elon Musk’s pay package. Then, Apple stock is surging after the company revealed its AI plans, and Paramount’s merger talks with Skydance fall apart. Plus, a listener question on the latest drama with Justice Alito.

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Kara and Scott discuss Apple finally unveiling AI plans. Can it pull ahead in the AI race? Then, Sandy Hook families may finally get some of their settlement, as Alex Jones moves to liquidate his assets. Plus, AI start-up Perplexity is in hot water with news publishers, Amazon expands its robotaxi testing to more cities, and a proposed Texas Stock Exchange throws its hat in the ring. Finally, our Friends of Pivot are Wall Street Journal investigative reporter, Brody Mullins, and Politico contributing writer, Luke Mullins. The Mullin Brothers have written a new book, "The Wolves of K Street: The Secret History of How Big Money Took Over Big Government," and they explain how tech companies changed the lobbying game.

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Kara and Scott discuss New York's plan to regulate social media for kids, X's new rules on adult content, and Shane Smith's latest venture at Vice. Then, federal regulators move forward with antitrust investigations in the AI sector, while Nvidia surges to a $3 trillion market cap, and gets ready for a stock split. Plus, a group of current and former OpenAI employees call for transparency and whistleblower protections. Finally, a listener question about the recent ruling that blocks Fearless Fund from issuing grants to Black female entrepreneurs.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Paramount/Skydance merger, the Washington Post's major changes at the top, and Salesforce's worst trading day in 20 years. Then, Google is in damage control mode after a document leak raises questions about search, and its new AI Overviews feature goes viral for all the wrong reasons. Plus, Tesla shareholders are getting ready to vote on reinstating Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar pay package. Will Elon come out on top? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is CNN's Chief Legal Analyst Elie Honig. Elie discusses his New York Magazine column on why he believes the Trump hush money case was flawed, and he looks ahead to next month's sentencing.

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Kara and Scott discuss what impact the Trump hush money trial outcome could have on the election, and whether a Trump second term could include Elon Musk in an advisory role. Then, OpenAI announces a new model in the works, the formation of a safety committee, and more deals with publishers. Plus, Melinda French Gates announces a $1 billion donation to support women, families, and reproductive rights. Are the ex-wives of tech billionaires creating a new era of philanthropy? Finally, Kara and Scott take a listener question on the products and devices they can't stand.

Note: This episode was recorded before former President Donald Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts.

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Pivot will be back on Friday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher, all about someone we just don't discuss enough – Elon Musk.

Kara has assembled a panel of experts, to get their take on all things Elon: Kirsten Grind from the New York Times, Becky Peterson from The Information, and Tim Higgins, Wall Street Journal columnist, and author of "Power Play: Tesla, Elon Musk, and the Bet of the Century." The group talks Tesla, Twitter/X, SpaceX, and more.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Department of Justice's antitrust suit against Live Nation, News Corp's $250 million deal with OpenAI, and Nestle's new frozen food brand aimed at Ozempic users. Then, Scarlett Johansson alleges OpenAI copied her voice after she refused to license it to Sam Altman, though new reporting says a voice actress was hired months earlier. How does OpenAI move past these accusations, and regain trust? Plus, Nvidia shares blockbuster earnings, while Trump Media's numbers are lackluster. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Julia Angwin, CEO and founder of Proof News, and a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. Julia shares why she thinks AI hype is overblown, and why she opposes the TikTok ban.

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Kara and Scott discuss Disney character and parade performers voting to unionize, whether a global tax on billionaires could actually happen, and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito's wife flying an upside-down American flag. Then, the Dow passes the 40,000 mark as other markets surge. But are meme stocks creating a little too much froth for investors? Plus, OpenAI deals with another high-profile departure over safety concerns.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Senate's new AI "Roadmap to Legislation," the Biden administration's tariffs on Chinese EVs, and Mark Zuckerberg's 40th birthday bash. Then OpenAI and Google reveal their latest AI models and features. Should we be worried about our AI future? Plus, President Biden and former President Trump are set to face off in two debates — Kara is excited and Scott has concerns. Finally, a listener mail question on setting kids up for the financial road ahead.

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Kara and Scott discuss Sony and Apollo Global wanting to break up Paramount, Apple apologizing after everyone hated the new iPad Pro ad, Melinda Gates resigning from the Gates Foundation, and new reporting that casts doubt on RFK Jr.’s VP pick. Then, earnings, earnings, earnings. What do Kara and Scott think of the latest numbers from Uber, Warner Bros and The New York Times? Plus, Apple has closed in on an agreement with OpenAI to use ChatGPT in iPhone operating systems. And, our Friend of Pivot Adam Moss joins us to discuss his new book, “The Work of Art: How Something Comes From Nothing.”

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Kara and Scott are live at the Finance Forward Conference in Hamburg, Germany! They discuss TikTok's lawsuit against the U.S. government, as well as the latest earnings from Reddit and Disney. Then, Microsoft and OpenAI launch a $2 million fund to counter election deepfakes. Will that amount of money do anything to move the needle? Plus, Germany is the latest country to test a four-day work week. Could that actually improve productivity?

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Kara and Scott take another look at non-compete agreements: where do they actually make sense? Plus, as the Fed holds interest rates steady, what factors are really affecting inflation? And, with another leadership shakeup at Peloton, can the pandemic-era fitness darling survive? All that and more, including what Big Tech regulation would do to stocks, and some positive thoughts for the rest of the year.

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Kara and Scott discuss Tesla laying off its Supercharger team, WeWork reaching a $450 million restructuring deal, and Dave & Buster's taking a gamble on betting. Then, what do Amazon's latest earnings mean for the company's AI plans? Plus, Walmart shuts down its health centers and CVS stocks take a major tumble. Is anyone doing healthcare right?

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Kara and Scott discuss the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the FTC accusing Amazon of using disappearing messaging apps to conceal potential evidence, and social media reacting to Gov. Kristi Noem's dog tale. Then, what Microsoft and Alphabet's latest earnings reveal about the Big Tech's AI race. Plus, Paramount's drama continues as CEO Bob Bakish steps down. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is California Forever CEO and Founder, Jan Sramek. Jan explains why he wants to build a new community in Solano County, California, and clears up some of the misconceptions.

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Kara and Scott discuss the campus protests, Harvey Weinstein’s conviction being overturned, and… Kara doing ketamine. Meta and Tesla’s Q1 earnings are out, and Scott’s got predictions on earnings to come. Plus, the FTC bans non-competes. Then, a listener question on what the TikTok ban means for the presidential election.

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Kara and Scott discuss Tesla's Cybertruck recall, Sony teaming up with Apollo for a Paramount bid, and Netflix's decision to stop reporting subscriber numbers. Then, the TikTok bill moves closer to becoming a law. Will TikTok's parent company go to court to stop a ban? Plus, is China's decision to crack down on popular messaging apps a retaliatory move? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Dana Mattioli, the Wall Street Journal's Amazon reporter, and author of the new book, "The Everything War: Amazon’s Ruthless Quest to Own the World and Remake Corporate Power." Dana explains what she learned about Amazon's tactics to stay on top.

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Kara and Scott discuss the new plan to fast-track the TikTok ban bill through Congress, the debate over Caitlin Clark's WNBA salary, and Trump Media's questionable move into streaming. Then, Tesla is asking shareholders to reapprove Elon Musk's multi-billion dollar pay package, despite a judge calling it unfair back in January. Will Elon get his way? Plus, NPR and Google are the latest companies to get publicly called out by employees. How should employers handle criticism and pushback from within? Finally, a listener mail question about who really benefits from dual class stocks.

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Kara and Scott discuss Google's efforts to avoid paying for news in California, Barry Diller's plan to revitalize The Daily Beast, and Iran's attack on Israel. Then, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are out with first quarter earnings. Is the future looking bright for big banks? Plus, Donald Trump's hush money trial gets underway in Manhattan. How will this case impact the presidential race? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Charles Duhigg, writer for the New Yorker and author of the new book, "Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection." Charles explains why listening is such an important component of conversations.

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Kara and Scott discuss Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's showstopping appearance at the White House state dinner, David Chang's chili crunch drama, and Meta facing pushback on its political content restrictions. Then, OpenAI prepares to fight numerous legal battles, but do they have a winning strategy? Plus, Paramount Global's proposed merger with Skydance Media is facing opposition from shareholders. Will the deal go through? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Isaac Arnsdorf, Washington Post national political reporter, and author of "Finish What We Started: The MAGA Movement's Ground War to End Democracy." Isaac explains why Steve Bannon believes the MAGA movement could "rule for a hundred years."

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Kara and Scott discuss Meta's stock continuing to rise, California businesses challenging Gov. Gavin Newsom on taxes, and Elon Musk's robotaxi announcement. Then, Disney successfully fended off Nelson Peltz in a proxy battle, but where does the company go from here? Plus, could Congress be getting close to actually passing an online privacy bill? Finally, our friend of Pivot is NYU history professor and author of "Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present," Ruth Ben-Ghiat. Ruth explains what the autocrats of the past can teach us about Donald Trump.

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Crooked Media’s Jon Favreau joins Kara to co-host! They discuss Trump Media’s stock taking a dive, Jon Stewart saying Apple wouldn’t let him interview Lina Khan, and a new bill in California that could give employees the “right to disconnect.” Then, Louie Swisher joins the mix to talk all things about the upcoming presidential election: bad polls for Biden, an abortion vote in Florida, and disinformation.

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In the third and final part of our Future of work series, Kara and Scott chat with Susan Athey, who teaches The Economics of Technology at Stanford Graduate School of Business. They take a deep dive into AI, discussing how it will impact work as we know it, and whether all the doom and gloom is justified.

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Kara is joined by guest host, Lydia Polgreen, New York Times Opinion columnist and co-host of the "Matter of Opinion" podcast. Kara and Lydia discuss the reactions to Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" album and the viral essay from The Cut that everyone on social media had thoughts on. Then, was Sam Bankman-Fried's 25-year sentence too harsh, or not harsh enough? Plus, OpenAI's announces a new tool to recreate the human voice, but is it too risky? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Ari Wallach, futurist and host of PBS's "A Brief History of the Future." Ari explains why the future doesn't have to be all doom and gloom, and what gives him hope for the next generation.

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Kara and Scott discuss the fallout from NBC's Ronna McDaniel debacle, Reddit’s first week on the market, and Trump Media being a meme stock. Plus, Florida’s restrictive law for teens on social media, mifepristone’s fate in the Supreme Court, and the one-year anniversary of Evan Gershkovich's detention in Russia, Then, a listener question on…facial hair and thank you notes.

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It's Part 2 of our Future of Work series. Kara and Scott chat with Stanford economics professor and the "Guru of Remote Work," Nick Bloom. Bloom explains why he thinks flexible work has been good for both employees and companies, and why he believes it will increase in the coming years. He also shares a few predictions.

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Kara and Scott discuss NBC's internal backlash to hiring former RNC chair Ronna McDaniel, Boeing's CEO stepping down, and how the royal family's PR team messed up the Kate Middleton story. Then, does the DOJ have a good case against Apple in its antitrust lawsuit? Plus, will Donald Trump get a financial boost from Truth Social's parent company going public? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Jim Sciutto, CNN's Chief National Security Analyst, and the author of "The Return of Great Powers: Russia, China, and The Next World War.” Jim discusses how the recent attack in Moscow exposed Putin's vulnerabilities, and also explains why he thinks the U.S. and its allies are facing "a 1939 moment."

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Kara and Scott discuss the latest Neuralink news, Trump’s $464 million problem, and the DOJ’s Apple lawsuit. Then, Microsoft makes a big move in the AI race, hiring former Google Executive and Deep Mind Co-Founder, Mustafa Suleyman. And Reddit is officially public. Plus, stay tuned for the listener question if you want to hear what movies make Kara and Scott cry. Well…Scott anyway.

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Kara and Scott are coming at you on a Wednesday with the first of three episodes in our special Future of Work series! They make predictions on what’s to come for the gig economy, DEI, and more. Is hybrid work here to stay? Will vocational training gain traction? How will AI impact the job market in the years to come?

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Scott fills Kara in on his "clarifying" ketamine experience. Then, Don Lemon releases his much-anticipated Elon Musk interview. Was Elon angry or just bored? Plus, Apple and Google explore a potential AI partnership, the Supreme Court rules on public officials blocking people on social media, and major changes are coming to the world of real estate. Our Friend of Pivot is Dana R. Fisher, Director of the Center for Environment, Community, & Equity at American University, and author of "Saving Ourselves: from Climate Shocks to Climate Action." Dana explains why she's an "apocalyptic optimist," and what's really going to move the needle with climate change activism.

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Don Lemon chats with Kara and Scott about the interview with Elon Musk that led to the cancellation of his partnership with X. Don shares his thoughts on Elon, X CEO Linda Yaccarino, and more. Plus, the TikTok bill heads to the Senate, but will a ban actually happen? Kara and Scott have a few predictions...

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Live from SXSW... it's a bonus episode of Pivot! Kara and Scott discuss Sam Altman getting reinstated to OpenAI's board following an investigation, fake news sites with ties to Russia popping up in the U.S., and a group of moms launching a grassroots campaign to fight social media addiction. Then, as the House gets closer to passing a potential TikTok ban, Kara and Scott dig into what that actually means. Plus, has Elon Musk been good for Texas?

Recorded on March 9th at SXSW in Austin.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Oscars, Sen. Katie Britt's viral State of the Union rebuttal, and the Kate Middleton photo manipulation controversy. Then, one year after the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, are banks still in trouble? Plus, Elon Musk says he won't be donating to the Trump or Biden campaigns, but could he still play a big role in the election? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Today Show co-anchor and NBC News' Chief Legal Correspondent, Savannah Guthrie. Savannah has a new book, "Mostly What God Does: Reflections on Seeking and Finding His Love Everywhere," and she explains why she's opening up about her faith now.

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Kara and Scott discuss Disney’s proxy fight with Nelson Peltz nearing an end, a new cap on credit card late fees, and employers dialing back on coverage of weight loss drugs. Also, the Biden-Trump rematch is getting closer after Super Tuesday. Plus, OpenAI intends to dismiss all of Elon Musk’s legal claims and an open letter for “AI for a Better Future.” Then, a listener question about why Siri is so bad.

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Kara and Scott discuss the state of the presidential race on Super Tuesday, and the Supreme Court ruling on Trump's Colorado ballot eligibility. Then, does Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman hold up in court? Plus, the era of self-regulation for Big Tech appears to be over, at least in the EU. Will that regulation ever make its way to the U.S.? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Tom Scocca, editor of the Substack, Indignity, who recently penned the New York Magazine essay "My Unraveling." Tom discusses his medical mystery and what he learned about the American healthcare system.

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Warning: there are already fake AI-generated versions of Kara's book on Amazon. Plus, Kara and Scott discuss Mitch McConnell’s retirement, and the SEC investigation into whether OpenAI’s investors were misled. They also talk about Apple scrapping its almost decade-long plan to release an electric vehicle, and the controversy around Google's Gemini image generation tool. Then, a listener question on what AI can do for HR departments.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Supreme Court cases that could change social media as we know it, and the recent disturbing investigations into parent-run accounts on Instagram. Also, Reddit is finally going public in the first major tech IPO of the year. Will it be successful? Plus, Kara's memoir "Burn Book" is hitting the shelves, featuring fascinating and entertaining stories from her reporting days in Silicon Valley. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is former U.S. Attorney, Barbara McQuade, who's written a new book, "Attack from Within: How Disinformation is Sabotaging America." Barbara explains how she thinks disinformation can be defeated.

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Kara and Scott weigh in on the Alabama Supreme Court embryo ruling, and what it means for the future of IVF. Then, the Senate moves closer to passing the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), but will regulation actually happen? Also, how Nvidia's monster earnings show AI is not slowing down anytime soon, and the Capital One-Discover merger that's set to shake up the credit card industry. Plus, Kara and Scott have thoughts on whether Trump's $355 million fraud judgment will be bad for business in New York.

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Kara and Scott joinWhere Should We Begin? with Esther Perel. Too often we can focus on troubles in our relationships and not what happens when the relationship goes right. This week, Esther explores the inner workings of a pivotal pair with podcast royalty Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway. The hosts of Pivot join Esther to delve into what makes them great to listen to and how being open to surprise and difference invites them each to be better people.

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Kara and Scott discuss the country’s latest mass shooting in Kansas City, and a new AI gun safety campaign. Also, X may be violating U.S. sanctions by letting terrorist organizations buy check marks, Jeff Bezos is saving big with his move to Florida, and Lyft’s stock went on a wild ride, all due to a typo. Plus, is Tesla’s Full Self-Driving technology to blame for an employee’s death? And is there merit to a lawsuit alleging Match Group’s apps are addictive? Then, Kara and Scott give an economics teacher their takes on what to teach students.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Taylor Swift effect on the Super Bowl, and pick their favorite ads. Then, they've got opinions about the new special counsel report that raised questions about Biden's age and memory. Plus, Disney reports blockbuster earnings, and announces a new investment into Epic Games. Our Friends of Pivot are Zoë Schiffer, Managing Editor of Platformer, and author of “Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk's Twitter," and Kurt Wagner, social media reporter for Bloomberg, and the author of "Battle for the Bird: Jack Dorsey, Elon Musk, and the $44 Billion Fight for Twitter's Soul."

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Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump’s lack of immunity in the 2020 election trial, Meta’s efforts to label AI content, and WeWork co-founder Adam Neumann trying to buy back the company. Plus, Warner Bros., Fox, and Disney are launching a sports streaming service, and Dartmouth will again require applicants to submit standardized test scores. And of course, Tucker Carlson has scored an interview with Vladimir Putin. Then, a listener question on what to do when your team is taken out by layoffs

Note: Tucker Carlson released his interview with Putin after we taped. 

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Kara and Scott discuss Joe Rogan's new $250 million deal with Spotify, the Wall Street Journal's latest report on Elon's drug use, and Nikki Haley's appearance on "Saturday Night Live." Then, the U.S. economy continues to defy expectations, so why isn't Biden benefiting? Plus, Meta's stock rockets to record highs after its latest earnings report, and Facebook turns 20. Our Friend of Pivot is Denise Hamilton, whose new book, "Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences Into a Stronger Future," examines how to reevaluate DEI.

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Kara and Scott talk Apple Vision Pro, Disney’s failed lawsuit against Ron DeSantis, and a $100 million deal for the Smartless podcast. Also, will Elon Musk move Tesla to Texas after a Delaware judge voided his $55 billion compensation package? Plus, the upshot of the social media companies' CEOs' testimonies on child safety. Our Friend of Pivot is New York Times reporter Conor Dougherty, who stops by to talk about his piece on the Silicon Valley bigwigs trying to build a city in California.

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Kara and Scott discuss Amazon bringing ads to Prime Video, the jury's $83 million verdict against Donald Trump in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, and the FTC's investigation of Big Tech's involvement in AI. Then, will the uproar over Taylor Swift and George Carlin deepfakes finally lead to regulation? Plus, what do the ongoing media layoffs mean for the future of journalism? Our Friend of Pivot is Chris Dixon, founder and managing partner of A16Z Crypto, and the author of "Read Write Own: Building the Next Era of the Internet." Chris explains why he (still) thinks crypto and blockchain are the future.

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Kara and Scott are back with you to discuss Oscar nominations, Jon Stewart’s return to The Daily Show, and Trump’s win in New Hampshire. Also, Netflix’s jump in subscribers, Tesla’s underwhelming earnings, and a Microsoft hits three trillion. Then they’re joined by Friend of Pivot, James Bennet, to discuss his recent essay, “When The New York Times Lost Its Way.”

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Kara and Scott discuss Ron DeSantis' departure from the 2024 race and the Biden/Trump rematch that everyone is dreading. Then, with the good news about the economy and the stock market, what's the best move for investors? Plus, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy fight, and a new report sheds light on the anti-DEI movement. Our Friend of Pivot is Aileen Lee, the founder and managing partner of the VC fund, Cowboy Ventures. She also happens to be the person who coined the term "unicorn" for billion dollar start-ups and shares her latest analysis on those companies.

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It’s the first-ever Pivot call-in show! Kara and Scott talk to Pivot listeners and answer questions on Elon, AI, Ozempic, and more. Plus, Apple’s new app store policy is facing backlash, CNN’s CEO maps out his plans for the future, and Bill Ackman is embroiled in yet another controversy.

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Pivot will return on Friday! But in the meantime, we're bringing you this special episode of Decoder, all about the demise of Twitter. Nilay Patel talks with Marty Baron, former executive editor of The Washington Post, and Zoe Schiffer, managing editor of Platformer and author of "Extremely Hardcore: Inside Elon Musk’s Twitter."

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Kara and Scott discuss the final GOP debate before the Iowa caucuses, the SEC approving Bitcoin ETFs, and Apple Vision Pro getting ready to hit the market. Then, Don Lemon is back with a new show, but can X really be a contender in the online video space? Plus, Business Insider's clash with parent company Axel Springer over plagiarism articles on Bill Ackman's wife, Neri Oxman.

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Kara and Scott are back with a lot to discuss! They start with the new Wall Street Journal piece on Elon Musk’s drug use, and get some medical expertise and insights from Kara's brother, Dr. Jeffrey Swisher. Then, they discuss the fallout from Harvard president Claudine Gay's resignation, and Bill Ackman's wife facing plagiarism charges. Plus, Disney's family feud between ESPN and Jimmy Kimmel, a possible Warner Bros/Paramount merger on the horizon, and more.

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Kara and Scott are starting off the new year answering your listener questions! They tackle why more tech people aren't serving in government, whether Prof G AI compensates Kara, and if girl math is a good thing. Plus, a discussion of personal blindsides and New Year’s resolutions revealed.

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Kara and Scott look back at highlights from the biggest themes of the year: learning to live with AI, labor strikes, the economic impact of girl power, and a sprinkling of Elon. Plus, what would Pivot be without some insults, squabbles, and humblebrags? 

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As 2023 comes to an end, Kara and Scott are revisiting some of their favorite Friends of Pivot interviews, including fascinating and thought-provoking conversations with Esther Perel, Mehdi Hasan, Lakshmi Rengarajan, and Rupublicans co-founder Craig DeForest 

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It’s time for our annual predictions episode! Kara and Scott share their 2024 predictions on politics, stocks, China, Google and more. Plus, some Friend of Pivot predictions from Jen Psaki, Mike Birbiglia, Fei-Fei Li, Bill Cohan, Dr. Joy Buolamwini, and Matt Belloni. 

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Kara and Scott discuss Tesla recalling 2 million vehicles, Netflix revealing viewership statistics, and a couple of….terrifying liquids. Then, nearly 200 countries have approved a global pact that calls for transitioning away from fossil fuels at COP28. And Epic Games has beat Google in court, with a jury ruling the company violated antitrust laws. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Naomi Alderman, on her new book, “The Future.”

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Kara and Scott discuss Tucker Carlson's new streaming service, Elon letting Alex Jones back on X, and whether the criticism of Google's Gemini demo video is warranted. Then, UPenn's president resigns after that Congressional testimony last week, will the other presidents follow? Plus, the EU moves forward with its landmark AI Act. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is "Pod Save America" co-host and "Pollercoaster" host, Dan Pfeiffer. Dan gives us insight into the latest election poll numbers and shares some advice for Biden and the Democrats.

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Kara and Scott discuss TIME's Person of the Year, Taylor Swift, George Santos' Cameo stardom, and yet another Republican debate. Then, they critique the testimony of three university presidents who spoke to Congress about anti-semitism on their campuses. And it’s a big week in AI news: Meta is teaming up with IBM to form an “AI Alliance,” Google launched a new model, “Gemini,” and Elon Musk’s AI startup has filed with the SEC to raise up to $1 billion. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Chief Strategy Officer for Ad Fontes Media, Lou Paskalis to discuss Linda Yaccarino’s decision to stick it out at X.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Dow's record highs and home ownership's new lows. Then, George Santos leaves Congress like a "Scandal in the Wind," while the Newsom/DeSantis debate was a circus of another kind. Plus, Google is accused of suppressing evidence, Nelson Peltz continues his Disney proxy battle, and "rizz" is the word of the year (Do Kara and Scott have it?!). Our Friend of Pivot is Sixto Cancel, the CEO and Founder of Think of Us, who's on a mission to revolutionize the country's child welfare system.

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We have a newspalooza for you today. Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk's decision to put advertisers on blast, Henry Kissinger's death, Nikki Haley's next steps, those Mark Cuban political rumors, and Microsoft's non-voting seat at OpenAI. Then, guest Rob Copeland joins to discuss his new book, “The Fund: Ray Dalio, Bridgewater Associates, and The Unraveling of a Wall Street Legend.”

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Kara and Scott discuss Jeff Zucker's return to the news business, and the cost of advertiser backlash in Elon Musk's antisemitism controversy. Then, Sam Altman is back at OpenAI, but who are the winners and losers after all the chaos? Plus, a new complaint reveals what Meta knew about its underage users. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is legendary venture capitalist Alan Patricof. At age 89, Patricof is as active as ever, and he explains why the longevity economy is a smart investment.

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Happy Thanksgiving! While Kara and Scott take a break after a crazy week of news, enjoy this episode of Decoder, featuring Nilay Patel's interview with former President Obama on AI, free speech, regulation, and more.

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Kara shares her latest reporting on Sam Altman and his decision to go to Microsoft, then she and Scott discuss what's next for OpenAI. Plus, Elon Musk threatens a "thermonuclear lawsuit," and X CEO Linda Yaccarino resists calls to resign. Our Friend of Pivot is Dr. Joy Buolamwini, founder of the Algorithmic Justice League, and author of "Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What Is Human in a World of Machines." Dr. Joy gives her take on OpenAI and the Altman ouster, and also discusses her mission to root out bias in AI.Follow Joy at @jovialjoy

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In the swirl of drama around Sam Altman’s exit from OpenAI, one company seems to be the winner: Microsoft. It has both a significant partnership with, and an ownership stake in, the company, and now it's welcoming Altman and OpenAI researchers with open arms. For this emergency episode, Kara interviews Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella.

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It's an emergency crossover episode of Pivot and the Prof G Pod and there's a lot to discuss. Sam Altman is out as CEO of OpenAI – but what exactly happened? Kara shares her latest reporting. Plus, major advertisers are fleeing X after Elon Musk endorsed an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Will Elon and X survive the firestorm? Kara and Scott break it all down.

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Kara and Scott discuss Nikki Haley's social media stance, Truth Social's waning prospects, and the revelation that Google sends a third of Safari ad revenue to Apple. And don’t worry, they also talk about the Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez photoshoot. You’re welcome/we’re sorry. Then, in the fight club that is DC, a government shutdown has been averted for now. Also, a look at how hate speech has surged on social media since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Adrian Aoun, CEO and Founder of the health tech startup Forward, which is launching what it calls, “the world’s first AI doctor’s office.”

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Kara and Scott discuss the new (and bizarre) AI pin, and Trump's desire for a televised trial. Also, the threat of a government shutdown is back, but will Speaker Mike Johnson be able to make a deal in time? Plus, what we're learning about the AI provisions in the new SAG-AFTRA agreement, and why not everyone is happy. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is New York Times President and CEO, Meredith Levien, who talks about the current state of journalism, subscription strategies, and yes, Wordle.

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Kara and Scott discuss the winners and losers from the GOP debate, Disney's latest earnings, and why Rivian seems to be bucking EV trends. Then, the 118-day SAG-AFTRA strike is coming to an end, but who's really coming out on top? Plus, OpenAI makes a big announcement that Kara calls a "power move." Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Mattie Kahn, who writes about girls being a force for change in her new book, "Young and Restless: The Girls Who Sparked America's Revolutions."

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Kara and Scott discuss why Jeff Bezos is really moving to Florida, major changes coming to the real estate business and Elon's new AI bot, Grok. Plus, what's next for crypto and investors after Sam Bankman-Fried's guilty verdict. Then, with less than a year to go until the 2024 presidential election, should everyone calm down about the latest polls? Finally, our Friend of Pivot is New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill, who has written about facial recognition and privacy in her new book, "Your Face Belongs to Us: A Secretive Startup's Quest to End Privacy as We Know It."

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Kara and Scott tell all about their trip to the White House. Then, they discuss the Ozempic effect on Krispy Kreme stock, and Disney taking full control of Hulu. They've also got thoughts on whether bankruptcy is really the end for WeWork, as well as the tactics that helped the UAW reach a deal with automakers. Our Friend of Pivot is the former director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, Chris Krebs. He breaks down the new AI executive order.

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Kara and Scott are making the TV rounds: Kara was on The Simpsons, and Scott was on Bill Maher! They’re also on their way to The White House as President Biden launches a new approach to AI. Then, the FCC is ready to restore net neutrality. And auto executives are pumping the breaks on electric vehicles.

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Kara and Scott discuss where Twitter/X stands one year after Elon's acquisition. They also break down Biden's upcoming A.I. executive order, and the UAW—Ford agreement. Then, Mike Johnson is the new Speaker of the House, and Kara’s suspicious. States sue Meta, claiming its products harm kids. And today’s listener question ponders leadership and assholery.

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Platformer's Casey Newton moderates a conversation at Code 2023 on ethics in artificial intelligence, with Ajeya Cotra, Senior Program Officer at Open Philanthropy, and Helen Toner, Director of Strategy at Georgetown University’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology. The panel discusses the risks and rewards of the technology, as well as best practices and safety measures.

Recorded on September 27th in Los Angeles.

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Kara and Scott discuss the investigation into what Jim Jordan knew about sexual abuse at Ohio State, Jon Stewart and Apple parting ways and a tough road ahead for Tesla's Cybertruck. Then, how the Supreme Court's latest ruling impacts the White House and social media companies. Plus, companies and CEOs continue to struggle with how to address the Israel-Hamas War, as some employees push back. Our Friend of Pivot is Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg who reveals his company's latest acquisition. Follow Matt at @photomatt

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Kara and Scott discuss the ongoing House speaker’s race, tech leaders dropping out of the Web Summit conference, and Google cutting news division jobs. Then, it’s a tough week for Goldman Sachs amidst profit declines. Will David Solomon giving up his DJ hobby help? Plus, X has begun testing out $1 subscriptions. Then, a listener question on Marc Andreesen’s “Techno-Optimist Manifesto.”

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Kara and Scott discuss whether companies should speak up or stay silent on the Israel-Hamas War. Then, what Microsoft's $69 billion acquisition of video game company Activision Blizzard means for future tech mergers. Plus, Taylor Swift rules the box office and Rite Aid files for bankruptcy. Our Friend of Pivot is Lincoln Project co-founder and former Republican strategist, Rick Wilson, who breaks down the speaker's race and looks ahead to the 2024 election.

Also, Kara has her annual cold.

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Kara and Scott discuss how the Israel-Hamas war is getting covered on social media and the influx of misinformation. Then, Republicans still can't decide on a Speaker of the House. Plus, the failed talks between SAG-AFTRA and the studios, Birkenstock's underwhelming IPO and layoffs at the Washington Post. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is psychotherapist Esther Perel, who shares wise words on grief and loneliness.

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Pivot will return on Friday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode from another podcast in the Pivot universe: The Prof G Pod.

Raj Chetty, the William A. Ackman Professor of Economics at Harvard University and the Director of Opportunity Insights, joins Scott to discuss research around higher education, specifically how elite universities shape who succeeds in the US. We also hear about broader trends regarding upward economic mobility and the role a child’s environment plays in creating opportunities for growth.

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Kara and Scott discuss declining social media traffic to news sites, Amazon using an algorithm to test how high they could boost prices, and why the boom in weight loss drugs is the “biggest business story of the year.” Also, Kevin McCarthy’s historic ouster marks another prediction come true in Pivot Land. And the largest health care strike in U.S. history is underway. Then, a listener question on the ethicality of donating to elite universities.

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Bumble Founder and CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd speaks with CNBC Correspondent Julia Boorstin at Code 2023. They discuss the power of AI, and whether it could play the role of a digital matchmaker.

Recorded on September 26th in Los Angeles.

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Kara and Scott discuss California Governor Gavin Newsom's choice of Laphonza Butler for Dianne Feinstein's senate seat, and whether Kevin McCarthy could be ousted as Speaker of the House. Plus, the Supreme Court adds two cases to the docket that could have a major impact on the future of social media. Our Friend of Pivot is New York Times Pitchbot, who stops by to talk about his popular Twitter account, and how he captures the media zeitgeist with his headlines and hot takes.

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Allen Media Group Founder, Chairman and CEO Byron Allen speaks with CNBC Correspondent Julia Boorstin at Code 2023. They discuss his bid to buy ABC, the use of AI in media, and his multiple lawsuits against McDonald's.

Recorded on September 26th in Los Angeles.

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After a headline-making Code Conference, Kara discusses her interview with Yoel Roth, the former head of trust and safety at Twitter, and also talks about X CEO Linda Yaccarino's interview with CNBC Correspondent Julia Boorstin. Then, Scott addresses his critics and explains what he got wrong about the Writers Strike, and what he still thinks he got right. Plus, how Travis Kelce is seemingly experiencing the Taylor Swift effect. 

Check out Kara's interview with Yoel Roth, former head of trust and safety at Twitter, and CNBC Correspondent Julia Boorstin's interview with X CEO Linda Yaccarino in the 'On with Kara Swisher' feed.

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Kara and Scott discuss the tentative deal between Hollywood writers and studios, and what it means for the future of the industry. They also talk about GOP attacks on misinformation researchers, as well as the hedge fund making billions betting against FTC Chair Lina Khan. Friend of Pivot Mathias Döpfner stops by to talk about the future of media and his new book The Trade Trap: How to Stop Doing Business with Dictators. And be sure to check out Scott's recent conversation with Mathias on The Prof G Pod.

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As Rupert Murdoch announces his retirement, Kara and Scott discuss the future of the media mogul's empire and his legacy. They also react to the Russell Brand controversy, and Elon's plan for a Twitter paywall. Then, there's chaos in Congress as a shutdown approaches, so why is everyone talking about the Senate dress code?

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Kara and Scott discuss the Jann Wenner controversy, and the new management term "feedforward." And as the "summer of strikes" marches into the fall, they talk about the State of the Unions. Then, is Disney selling off ABC? And would that be the end of linear television? Our Friend of Pivot is Benyamin Cohen, the author of, "The Einstein Effect: How the World's Favorite Genius Got into Our Cars, Our Bathrooms, and Our Minds," who also happens to be the man behind the official Albert Einstein accounts on social media.

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Kara and Scott discuss the new openings for the greatest jobs in journalism – Taylor Swift and Beyoncé reporters. They also unpack Apple's underwhelming product launch and the backlash Drew Barrymore is facing after bringing her show back during the strikes. Then, was the big tech AI summit a big success? And who will be the winners and losers as Google's landmark antitrust trial gets underway?

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Kara and Scott dish on their big date night at the U.S. Open. They also preview A.I.'s big week on Capitol Hill before Kara gives her no-holds-barred review of Walter Isaacson’s Elon Musk biography. Our Friend of Pivot is former Amazon employee Kristi Coulter, who's pulling back the curtain on tech company culture in her new book, "Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career."

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Scott is back! He and Kara waste no time digging into Charter vs. Disney and the FTC’s possible Amazon suit. Our Friend of Pivot is CEO and National Chair of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt. He shares his thoughts on being on the receiving end of Elon Musk's latest tweetstorm.

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Not many people can name the original founders of Tesla. So how did two guys who wanted to build an electric car create a company synonymous with Elon Musk?

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Scott Free August is over, welcome to Scottember! As we head into the holiday weekend, Kara and Scott open the listener mail bag to answer questions about whether we’ve hit peak Apple, how to stay present with kids, and what to do when you’re working for a company whose policies don't match your morals. Plus, do Apple Vision Pros make you look rich?! And when was Scott's last good hair day?

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Wall Street Journal columnist Joanna Stern is Kara's co-host as Scott-free August comes to an end. They explore how Trump's mugshot is spawning merch from the right and the left, and what to expect from the upcoming iPhone 15. Then, Joanna's investigation into the best EVs on the market and why a group of Silicon Valley elite is buying up land in northern California. Our Friend of Pivot is Professor Peter Turchin, author of "End Times: Elites, Counter-Elites, and the Path of Political Disintegration." He explains why the U.S. is in a state of social upheaval and sees a few paths that could get us out of it.

You can follow Joanna at @JoannaStern and read her column at WSJ.com.

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All in the family! Kara's son Louie Swisher and her brother Dr. Jeffrey Swisher join her to co-host. The trio discuss Ronan Farrow's new reporting on Elon Musk and Oliver Anthony's hit song "Rich Men North of Richmond." Then, they survey the current GOP primary field and discuss the pros and cons of AI in medicine.

You can follow Jeff on Twitter at @jeffreyswisher.

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A minor break in Scott-Free August (because Scott misses you all): Kara and Scott open the listener mail bag to answer your questions about Instagram Threads, biotech, and education. Stick around to hear a listener call in from a cornfield, and about the origins of the Kara and Scott relationship.

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Journalist and anchor Don Lemon joins Kara for his first major conversation about leaving CNN, what he's been doing since, and what he's planning to do next. He also chats with Kara about the Trump indictments, The Blind Side family's controversy, and more.

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George Hahn is back to join Kara as co-host! They discuss the latest in the Zuckerberg v. Musk cage match, Sam Bankman-Fried reporting to jail, and Donald Trump’s looming fourth indictment. Then, the Maui wildfire is now the deadliest US wildfire in more than a century, and the Writers’ Guild went back to the table with producers. Then, we’re joined by co-creator of the RuPublicans, Craig DeForest.

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Republican presidential candidate joins Will Hurd joins Kara as co-host to discuss aging politicians, an FEC efforts to regulate AI in campaign ads, and of course, Barbie. Then, they talk about what the Ohio special election means for the GOP's anti-abortion stance, and whether Trump's legal woes can clear a path for other Republican candidates.

You can find Will Hurd on Twitter at @WillHurd.

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Puck's Teddy Schleifer is Kara's co-host, chatting about Sam Bankman-Fried’s legal woes, Barbie hitting $1 billion, and the Musk v. Zuckerberg cage fight. Then, Donald Trump’s response to his latest indictment, and the money behind the presidential candidates. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and political pollster, Frank Luntz to make sense of the latest poll numbers on the 2024 election.

You can follow Teddy at @teddyschleifer, and read his work at Puck.News.

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We’re starting off Scott Free August strong with TODAY co-host Savannah Guthrie. Kara and Savannah give us a look behind the scenes at how they've prepared for and pulled off some of their most notable interviews, including sitdowns with President Trump, Kamala Harris, Mark Zuckerberg, and more. Also: X will now let users hide their verified checkmarks, Hollywood writers and sudio representatives are expected to meet, and President Trump’s third criminal case of the year.

You can find Savannah co-anchoring TODAY on NBC.

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Kara and Scott discuss the comeback of the Chevy Bolt, and Scott’s thoughts on Barbie. Also, what should the government do about the dominance of the Starlink? We preview the guest hosts and topics coming up in Scott-Free August. Plus, we talk crypto with Friend of Pivot and Ledger’s Chief Experience Officer, Ian Rogers.

You can find Ian on Twitter at @iancr.

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Kara and Scott talk about the latest interest rate hike, Mitch McConnell’s health scare, and whether the aliens are finally here or not. Plus, it’s earnings season, and the AI effect is making money moves for Big Tech. Then, should colleges do away with legacy admissions? And a listener question about the future of EV charging.

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Kara and Scott discuss a huge weekend at the box office, and Jeff Bezos' renewed interest in The Washington Post. Plus, WTF is Elon doing with his Twitter re-brand? Also, Big Tech agrees to some AI safety commitments, will they be enough? Friend of Pivot Alondra Nelson led the development of the Biden Administration's Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights, she joins us to discuss.

You can find Alondra on Twitter…or X…at @alondra.

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Kara's got the latest from the Barbie premiere, where YES she saw Mr and Mrs. Gaetz. Scott has some more thoughts on who the real enemy is in the Hollywood strikes (and it's not him!) The government has Big Tech in its crosshairs with the latest proposed M&A guidelines, Google pitches an AI news writing product, and Scott really does think Trump will drop out. But above all, stick around for the listener mail from 10-year-old Henry, who's ready to make some money on the stock market.

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Kara and Scott discuss Tesla’s Cybertruck, Tucker Carlson’s new media company, and a drop in Threads engagement. Also, Bob One’s contract has been extended after a rough first year, and SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher has him in her crosshairs. Plus, Earth is experiencing its hottest days on record. What does that mean for politics and infrastructure? Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot Ashlee Vance to talk all things space and Elon Musk.

You can find Ashlee on Twitter at @ashleevance and can buy his book here.

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Kara and Scott discuss actors joining writers on the picket line, and Ticketmaster vs. Taylor Swift fans, again.* Also, Threads hit 100 million users in just five days, does its success give Mark Zuckerberg a chance to atone for the sins of his other products? Or will Elon Musk just drag him down into a *checks notes* “literal dick measuring contest.” Plus, the FTC is on an antitrust losing streak, and a listener disagrees with Kara on nuclear energy.

You can listen to Kara’s interview with Jake Tapper here.

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*Ticketmaster's statement re: Taylor Swift ticketing in France:

The onsale date and time for Taylor Swift | The Eras Tour in France is being rescheduled and tickets are still available. This sale was disrupted by an issue with a third-party provider and they are working to resolve this matter as soon as possible. 

 As soon as we saw fans experiencing issues, queues were paused. All codes that were not used to purchase tickets today will remain valid. Fans previously selected to participate in the onsale will be notified directly of the new onsale date and time. 

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Will Tesla’s Charging network provoke the FTC? Can writers take control of their intellectual property? Can our electrical infrastructure support EV expansion? And what global policies could help us prevent technological disaster? Kara and Scott open the listener mailbag…and find Scott a new nickname in the process.

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Kara and Scott discuss Apple hitting a $3 trillion valuation, China announcing export restrictions on minerals used in the production of semiconductors, and GQ pulling an article critiquing David Zaslav. Also: Meta’s Twitter competitor, Threads is officially here and racking in the downloads. A certain someone isn’t so happy about that. Plus, a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction to prohibit certain communications between the Biden administration and social media sites. And a listener question on going from academia to the corporate world.

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Kai Ryssdal, the host and senior editor of Marketplace, joins Scott to discuss the state of the economy and his take on the media. We also learn how Kai approaches fatherhood and his thoughts on being a good partner. Follow Kai on Twitter, @kairyssdal. 

Scott opens by discussing masculinity, his time at Cannes, and the fact that the number of billionaires in the world has increased five-fold over the past two decades. 

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Donald Trump may soon return to Twitter, new F1 team owners, and Wheel of Fortune’s Vanna White wants a raise. Then, psychedelics have a hold on tech industry culture, and the US is considering restrictions on exports of AI chip to China. Plus, a listener question on how local governments can retain talent.

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Breaking news: Kara Swisher will not referee the cage match between Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg. Also, SpaceX is looking to up its valuation, and Meta wants to shut down access to news in Canada. And this weekend’s insurrection in Russia revealed how unequipped social media is to cover breaking news. Plus, an investigation into the Titan submersible implosion may lead to new regulations. Will the same happen for space travel? Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Jason Del Rey on the decades-long battle between Walmart and Amazon.

You can find Jason on Twitter at @DelRey, and you can buy “Winner Sells All: Amazon, Walmart, and the Battle for Our Wallets,” here.

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Kara and Scott are live at Cannes! They discuss Tesla’s market value going up a quarter of a trillion dollars, and Meta letting advertisers know how it’s competing in the AI space. Plus, Twitter’s Head of Ad Sales attended Cannes to assure brands their ads wouldn’t appear near all the bad stuff, and meanwhile GLAAD named Twitter the most dangerous platform for LGBTQ+ people. Then, some questions from the audience.

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Nilay Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, talks to Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Google and Alphabet about what he thinks of the future of search, and his vision for Google.Listen to more from Nilay in the feed of Decoder with Nilay Patel.

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Kara has a pretty rave review of Apple's Vision Pro, but can she sell Scott on trying it out? Also, E.U is on a tear of technology regulation, including antitrust charges for Google over its advertising practices, and regulation for AI. Plus, Bud Light sales are in a slump following the brand’s handling of the Dylan Mulvaney controversy. And a listener question on what Kara and Scott would do if they were in Linda Yaccarino’s shoes.

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Trump Heads to Court (Again), Tesla's Autopilot Danger, and Guest Jennifer Pahlka

Kara and Scott talk about George Soros' succession plan, Twitter’s new “odd couple,” and Trump's latest legal battle over classified documents. Then Friend of Pivot Jennifer Pahlka stops by to talk about her critically-acclaimed new book, Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better.

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The SEC is coming for crypto’s biggest players, Fox News says Tucker Carlson broke his contract with a new Twitter show, and Chris Licht is out at CNN. Then, Instagram’s algorithms are promoting accounts sharing child sexual abuse material, and the PGA Tour announced a merger with Saudi-backed LIV Golf. Plus, a listener question on Reddit charging for access to its API.

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The Directors Guild avoids a strike, Amazon may join the wireless market, and tech companies prepare for 2024 by acting like it's 2020. Also, Apple finally unveils its headset. Kara and Scott talk about the weird world of Washington with Friend of Pivot Ben Terris, author of "The Big Break: The Gamblers, Party Animals, and True Believers Trying to Win in Washington While America Loses Its Mind."

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Elizabeth Holmes goes to prison, the Sackler family escapes liability, and Twitter's valuation drops even lower. Also, Congress votes to raise the debt ceiling, but did Speaker McCarthy get floored? Leading AI scientists and entrepreneurs warn of possible extinction. Kara and Scott weigh the odds.

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AI is amazing… or terrifying, depending on who you ask. This is a technology that elicits strong, almost existential reactions. So, as a Memorial Day special, we're running an episode of Recode Media with Peter Kafka that digs into the giant ambitions and enormous concerns people have about the very same tech.

First up: Joshua Browder (@jbrowder1), a Stanford computer science dropout who tried to get an AI lawyer into court.

Then: Microsoft's CTO Kevin Scott (@kevin_scott) pitches a bright AI future.

Plus: hype-deflator, cognitive scientist and author Gary Marcus (@GaryMarcus) believes in AI, but he thinks the giants of Silicon Valley are scaling flawed technology now—with potentially dangerous consequences.

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Meta will sell Giphy in an antitrust loss, and the man who ran a Twitter account tracking Elon Musk’s private jet is now tracking Ron Desantis. Also, the latest in the culture wars: A Florida school has limited access to Amanda Gorman’s poetry, and Target will remove some Pride merch after a backlash. Plus, Governor Ron DeSantis announced his presidential run on Twitter Spaces… and it didn’t go quite as planned. And the Surgeon General warns that social media may be harmful to young users. Then, a listener question on HBO Max rebranding to Max.

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The EU deals Meta a record-breaking fine, Jeffrey Epstein reportedly attempted to blackmail Bill Gates, and the debt ceiling is looming closer. Also, Disney is cancelling plans to build a complex in Florida. Kara and Scott discuss ChatGPT and Apple’s AI efforts. Friend of Pivot Chasten Buttigieg joins to discuss coming of age as a young gay man in the Midwest, and the continuing challenges to LGBTQ life in America.

You can find @Chasten on Twitter, and “I Have Something to Tell You: For Young Adults” here.

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EU regulators say 'game on' for the Microsoft-Activision deal, WeWork's CEO is stepping down, and the latest call for AI regulation is coming from inside the house. Kara and Scott discuss the weak plan to ban TikTok in Montana. And Elon Musk continues to Elon Musk, saying he’s willing to lose money to say what he wants to say. Also, a prediction about the writer's strike.

Listen to On with Kara Swisher's episode, "Will Elon Musk Turn Twitter Into Yahoo Mail?" here.

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Kara and Scott discuss Taylor Swift's economic impact, and why there are troubles at Disney Plus and Netflix. Meanwhile, over at Twitter: a new CEO, and a censorship controversy. Also, the Trump Town Hall stirs up internal politics at CNN. Our Friend of Pivot, Senator Mark Warner, stops by to talk TikTok, AI, and the Kids Online Safety Act.

You can find Senator Mark Warner at @MarkWarner on Twitter.

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Tucker Carlson says he's moving to Twitter, Google cuts a deal with the New York Times, and the Biden administration might make airlines pay their customers. Kara and Scott unpack the Trump verdict and CNN town hall, and the charges against Representative George Santos. Friend of Pivot Dan Lyons talks about his book STFU, and why we talk too much.

Find Dan Lyons on Twitter, and check out STFU here.

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Kara and Scott talk about the coronation, CNN's Trump town hall, and Elizabeth Holmes. Also, Twitter is bleeding blue checks, and Tucker Carlson reportedly spoke to Elon Musk about his next moves. Then, which party will come out ahead in the debt ceiling negotiations?  And, Friend of Pivot Claire Hughes Johnson to talk about what managers get wrong.

You can find Claire on Twitter at @chughesjohnson, and can buy “Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building” here.

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Kara and Scott on interest rates, new Airbnb features, and the text that got Tucker Carlson fired. AI CEOs are headed to the White House as the FTC puts the industry in its crosshairs, and Scott redefines LLM. Plus: the growing movement to censor kids' theater programs. Today's Friend of Pivot is Anne Applebaum, staff writer at The Atlantic, with the latest on Ukraine.

You can find Anne on Twitter at @anneapplebaum, and can read her cover story here.

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Kara and Scott discuss the recent warnings from one of the “Godfathers of AI,” as well as the potential writers' strike. Then, J.P Morgan keeps getting bigger with its latest acquisition: First Republic. Elon Musk says Twitter will let media publishers charge for articles. Also, does anybody have a Bluesky referral code? And we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Joelle Emerson, to break down how recent layoffs have affected corporate diversity.

You can find Joelle at @joelle_emerson on Twitter.

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The UK moves to block the Microsoft-Activision deal, Peter Thiel announces a change to his political giving, and First Republic Bank shows we're not out the woods yet. Also, Disney escalates its fight with Florida, and Big Tech has a good quarter. Plus, Senator Michael Bennet (D-CO) joins to discuss TikTok legislation, Twitter, and the Supreme Court.

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Kara and Scott react to news that Tucker Carlson is out at Fox, and Don Lemon at CNN. Plus, Kara's got a blue check and Scott doesn't after a messy week at Twitter. Layoffs and closures are hitting left and right with Disney and Lyft layoffs, Bed, Bath & Beyond bankruptcy, and BuzzFeed News shutting down. Also, President Biden is expected to announce his reelection campaign this week. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Baratunde Thurston.

You can find Baratunde's at Puck, on How to Citizen, and on America Outdoors on PBS.

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Meta's Year of Efficiency continues with 10,000 more layoffs. Apple gets into the savings game with a competitive interest rate. Florida's Ron DeSantis is losing his war on Disney, while Fox News agrees to pay Dominion a hefty sum in a defamation settlement. Pretty good week, all in all.

Crowdstrike co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch joins to discuss Discord Leaks and Starlink's role in the Ukraine war.

Hear more from Dmitri on Geopolitics Decanted.

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Scott’s back on Twitter, and Elon says the platform could be cash-flow positive this quarter - coincidence? Kara and Scott discuss growing calls for Senator Feinstein to resign, a delay in the Dominion v. Fox News trial, and impressive JPMorgan Chase earnings. Also, a tech consultant has been arrested for the murder of Cash App founder Bob Lee. And U.S. National Security is in disarray over Discord after an Air National Guardsman allegedly leaked classified documents on the platform. Then, we’re joined by Principal Researcher at Microsoft Research Lab and Professor at USC Annenberg, Kate Crawford to talk everything AI.

You can find Kate on Twitter at @katecrawford, and can buy “Atlas of AI” here.

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Why does anyone need another form of payment? Who's really behind all that "un-American" content on TikTok? And which Pivot co-host is the most elite? Learn the answers to all that and more as Kara and Scott tackle listener questions. Plus: Poetry.

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SPOILERS: Succession.

Jill Biden makes a rare gaffe after the NCAA championships. Dueling court rulings could endanger access to abortion pills. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has a secret wealthy benefactor with a not-so-secret collection of Nazi memorabilia. Kara and guest host Olivia Nuzzi (New York Magazine) unpack her latest cover story on Stormy Daniels, plus Elon Musk's ham-fisted fight against Substack.

Author Jennifer Senior joins to discuss "On Grief," her story about loss, mourning, and memory.

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The View co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin joins Kara to discuss the fallout from former President Donald Trump's arrest. What does it mean for his campaign? How should presidential hopefuls manage this moment? Has media coverage of Trump’s chaos improved? Plus, UK privacy regulators fine TikTok, and Tim Cook himself warns parents to limit screen times for kids.

You can find Alyssa at @Alyssafarah on Twitter, and on The View.

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Kara and Scott still have their blue checks! They discuss a confusing and slow legacy check removal process at Twitter. Also, the Russian government’s arrest of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, and other repressive governments making business hard around the world. Plus, Virgin Orbit has halted operations for the foreseeable future and four billionaires will have to talk about their relationship with Jeffery Epstein. Oh, and by the time you’re reading this, former President Trump may have been arrested.

Friend of Pivot Liz Hoffman discusses her new book, Crash Landing: The Inside Story of How the World’s Biggest Companies Survived an Economy on the Brink.

You can find Liz at @lizrhoffman on Twitter, and you can buy her book here.

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Disney drops out of the metaverse, Apple jumps into buy now, pay later, and tech leaders call for a pause on A.I. Also, Donald Trump says that he's been "INDICATED," and Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba is splitting into six companies. Meanwhile, misinformation swells after the latest school shooting that left 6 dead in Nashville. Kara and Scott take a listener question about senior poverty.

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Short sellers come to Jack Dorsey's Block, Apple's employees don't like what they're seeing in the company's AR device, and there's peace in the Silicon Valley Bank tonight. Also, NPR cancels four podcasts, the SEC gets serious about crypto, and Twitter Blue's latest feature is... pretending you don't pay for Twitter Blue? Journalist Emily Baker-White joins Kara and Scott to discuss her work on TikTok, and the stories that led ByteDance employees to spy on her.

Find Emily Baker-White on Twitter at @ebakerwhite.

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Scott and Kara* dissect TikTok CEO Shou Chew’s testimony in the House as the app fends of a potential U.S. ban. And in A.I. news, Google released its chat bot, Bard, to the general public. Plus, President Trump is still a free man, the Fed has raised interest rates yet again, and Ford’s EV business is in the red. Then, a listener question about getting paid in stock.

*See what we did there?

You can listen to Kara’s interview with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman here.

For a deeper dive on the implications of the potential Trump indictment, check out Stay Tuned from friend of the show, Preet Bharara.

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Kara and Scott discuss another round of Amazon layoffs, former President Trump’s call for protests, and of course, raccoon dogs. Plus, the banking drama continues as banks in the U.S. and Switzerland come together to rescue the weakest among them. Also, TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew will testify before Congress this week. Friend of Pivot Dr. Gloria Mark explains how technology has impacted our attention spans.

You can find Dr. Gloria Mark at @GloriaMark_PhD on Twitter, and you can buy her book “Attention Span: A Groundbreaking Way to Restore Balance, Happiness, and Productivity” here.

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The Biden administration tells Tiktok to leave ByteDance or leave the US. Meta's year of Zuck-ficiency continues, with another 10,000 layoffs. Kara and Scott unpack the decision to backstop Silicon Valley Bank, as Credit Suisse deals with its own potential issues. Also, ChatGPT gains the power of sight, and a listener worries about the growth of legalized gambling.

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Sam Sanders of Into It joins Kara for co-hosting duties!  They discuss the latest on the Silicon Valley Bank fallout, then break down this year's Oscars. Also, data security issues are at play in a church scandal involving priests and dating apps, and should Paramount sell BET?

You can follow Sam on Twitter at @SamSanders, and you can listen to Into It and Vibe Check wherever you get your podcasts.

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Kara, Scott, and William D. Cohan are back with a bonus episode to talk through Silicon Valley Bank’s 48 hour collapse. What does its fall mean for tech? Who's to blame? Will depositors be made whole?

You can follow William D. Cohan at @WilliamCohan.

We’ll be back with a regular episode on Tuesday!

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More layoffs are coming to Meta, and President Biden's pick for the FCC, Gigi Sohn, drops out of the running. As the FTC investigates his company and the wheels literally come off at Tesla, Elon Musk publicly picks (and loses) a fight with an employee. Also, newly-revealed texts from Fox News hosts could be a legal headache. Friend of Pivot Hannah Dreier helps Kara and Scott unpack her latest investigation on the widespread use of immigrant child labor in America's most dangerous jobs. Plus, a prediction from Scott about Adam Neumann's latest venture.

You can follow Hannah Dreier at @hannahdreier and read her work at the New York Times.

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Kara and Scott talk big earnings at Salesforce, Amazon's HQ2 construction pause, and more executive departures at Apple. Also, TikTok ban bills are moving ahead, amid renewed GOP attacks on Big Tech. Plus, we’re joined by Friend of Pivot Jeff Kosseff to discuss how new bills aimed at online speech could challenge the First Amendment.

You can find Jeff on Twitter at @jkosseff and you can preorder his book here.

Hear Kara’s interview with Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff here.

You can read the Wall Street Journal Scott mentions in Wins and Fails here.

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Kara and Scott discuss Tesla’s “Master Plan 3,” and TikTok's new time limits. Also, the world of Twitter competitors is growing with Jack Dorsey’s new app Bluesky joining the ranks. Plus, the COVID-19 lab leak theory got a heated boost this week. Friend of Pivot Mehdi Hasan joins to help us definitively decide whether or not Kara’s Chevy Bolt is sexy.

You can find Mehdi on Twitter at @mehdirhasan, and you can find his book “Win Every Argument The Art of Debating, Persuading, and Public Speaking” here.

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Dilbert is out of work after his creator made racist remarks. House Republicans are launching an investigation into the toxic train derailment in Ohio. Also, Twitter has cut staff yet again, and prominent Elon-backers are in the mix. Plus, Meta has jumped into the A.I. race at last, sans a chatbot. Kara and Scott are joined by Friend of Pivot Malcolm Harris on his new book, “Palo Alto: A History of California, Capitalism, and the World.”

You can fins Malcolm on Twitter at @BigMeanInternet and can find his book here.

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Kara and Scott discuss Don Lemon's troubling comments, the high cost of shooting down UFOs, and Amazon sealing the deal with One Medical. Also, Elon Musk and Tesla return to California. Plus, Mark Zuckerberg wants us to pay for Facebook with the new Meta Verified, and the Supreme Court hears two cases that could impact Section 230, the internet's most important law.

Listen to Kara’s latest episode of On with Kara Swisher, “Will Killing Section 230 Kill the Internet?” here.

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Happy President's Day! Pivot will return on Friday. Today, an episode from our other favorite podcast: The Prof G Pod.

Derek Thompson, a staff writer at The Atlantic and host of the Plain English podcast, joins Scott to discuss why he believes America is at a standstill when it comes to progress, including the lack of trust in institutions and a need for an abundance agenda. Follow Derek on Twitter, @DKThomp.

Scott opens by discussing potential business opportunities for WhatsApp. He then shares his thoughts on Buzzfeed’s decision to use OpenAi to create content.

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A week of surprising resignations: the FTC’s lone Republican commissioner announced her departure in the Wall Street Journal, and Scotland’s First Minister will step down after drama around a transgender prisoner. Also, the US and China practice electric car diplomacy, and Elon Musk *really* wants you to read his tweets. Friends of Pivot James B. Stewart and Rachel Abrams discuss their book, Unscripted, about the scandalous last years of Sumner Redstone.

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Check out Unscripted: The Epic Battle for a Media Empire and the Redstone Family Legacy and follow James B. Stewart and Rachel Abrams on Twitter.

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Kara and Scott talk Super Bowl ads and legacy blue check wars. And what on Earth (or Mars?) is the deal with all of these UFOs? Plus, the state of Big Tech: the layoffs, the opportunities, the A.I. Also, Friend of Pivot and co-host of Land of the Giants, Lakshmi Rengarajan joins to dicuss all things dating.

You can hear more from Lakshmi on Land of the Giants and Paired by the People.

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Kara and Scott discuss the latest changes at Disney, including layoffs, and the expensive mistake made by Google's chatbot. Also in the mix: Adam Neumann is back, and has invented apartments! Plus, how did that Republicans hearing with the former Twitter execs go? The Dawg and Jungle Cat have thoughts.

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Kara and Scott discuss Google's newest effort to compete with ChatGPT, the Koch network's anti-Trump efforts, and the latest on Elon Musk’s many legal battles. Plus, of course, the fallout from the Chinese balloon. Then, they’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Jerry Saltz to discuss the state of art world.

You can find Jerry on Twitter at @jerrysaltz and can get his book here.

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The Fed eases up on the brakes, Elon Musk looks for new ways to monetize Twitter, and Snap has another rough quarter. Also: Meta may have prevailed in a fight with the FTC. Today’s Friend of Pivot is Jonathan Kanter, Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division at the DOJ. He stops by to discuss Google, antitrust, and his agency's fight against monopolies.

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Today Kara’s out sick and we’re sharing an episode of Land of the Giants.

When Tinder launched in 2012, it changed dating culture and our expectations around dating forever by leveraging the iPhone and gamifying the dating experience. But did the rise of dating apps make finding romance easier or harder, and what are the consequences of playing a game that never ends?

Subscribe to Land of the Giants to get new episodes every Wednesday. If you miss Scott and Kara you can hear them on their other podcasts. Check out Scott’s recent Prof G episode on the markets. And listen to an episode of On with Kara Swisher where Nayeema grills Kara about her looong relationship grilling Mark Zuckerberg on Apple or Spotify.

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Kara and Scott discuss the Bad Blood between the Senate Judiciary Committee and Live Nation, Walmart giving workers a raise, and the cancelled Murdoch merger of Fox and News Corp. Also, will you see more covfefe in your feeds? Trump is back on Facebook and Instagram. Plus, the DOJ is suing Google over its dominance in digital advertising: what took them so long?

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Biden will get a new Chief of Staff, the U.S. Attorney has questions for Amazon, and Elon takes the stand. Over at Netflix: strong subscriber growth, and Reed Hastings is out as Co-CEO. And of course, more layoffs. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot Cory Doctorow on his new book, “Chokepoint Capitalism: How Big Tech and Big Content Captured Creative Labor Markets and How We’ll Win Them Back.”

Cory is on Twitter at @doctorow and you can find his book here.

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Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft layoffs, cryptocurrency’s surprising recovery, and Jacinda Ardern’s resignation. Plus, someone bought a Twitter bird statue for $100k, and it wasn’t Kara. Friend of Pivot Zoë Schiffer (@zoeschiffer) joins to discuss all of her recent Twitter reporting, including the work that went in to this week’s major New York Magazine story, which you can read here.

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Kara and Scott visit London's "new Palo Alto" for a live discussion on Tim Cook's pay cut, Prince Harry's memoir "Spare," and what European regulation means for social media users. Also, banking's biggest Eeyore softens his predictions for a 2023 recession, while Britain takes another step towards Brexit.

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At Munich's Digital-Life-Design conference, Kara and Scott unpack EU tech regulations, Tesla's many challenges (including Twitter), and OpenAI's future in Microsoft products. Also, what the latest airline meltdown says about US infrastructure.

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Kara and Scott are back together! They discuss the new power balance in Congress, how A.I. will and won't transform, and a potential ban on non-compete clauses. Plus, Jack Ma will give up control of Ant Group, and echoes of January 6th in Brazil. Today's Friend of Pivot is Mike Allen of Axios, who stops by to chat about his new book, “Smart Brevity: The Power of Saying More with Less,” and the changing landscape of the news business.

You can find Mike Allen on Twitter at @MikeAllen and can find Smart Brevity here.

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CNN's Audie Cornish joins Kara as guest co-host with plenty to cover: the Republican disarray in the Speaker of the House vote, the E.U. fining Meta for privacy violations, and Twitter allowing political advertising back on the platform. Also, Donald Trump could get his Facebook account back, and Elon Musk’s year is off to a rough start. Plus, SBF’s former allies are cooperating, and tech layoffs continue.

You can find Audie on Twitter at @AudieCornish, and can listen to her podcast “The Assignment with Audie Cornish” wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Today we're sharing an episode of The Prof G Pod, Scott Galloway's other favorite podcast. Enjoy!

Mark Zandi, the chief economist of Moody’s Analytics joins to discuss the economy, including geopolitical uncertainty, the housing market, and why he’s not all that concerned about a possible recession. Follow Mark on Twitter, @Markzandi.

Scott opens with his thoughts on investing in Chinese stocks.

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Today we're sharing an episode of On with Kara Swisher - her other favorite podcat.

Elon Musk is a puzzle, but if there’s anyone who can make sense of him it’s Kara Swisher. She’s covered him since the late 90s – back in her early days as a beat reporter at the Wall Street Journal and she’s had many in-depth interviews and exchanges with the tech titan since, perhaps more than any other reporter. She’s also covered Elon’s latest fiefdom, Twitter, before it even was Twitter. So today we turn the tables, and Kara Swisher is “On” with Nayeema Raza.

We’ll unpack how Elon became Elon, why Kara came to believe he was one of the greatest visionaries in Silicon Valley, when exactly she soured on him — and why she still holds out some hope.

You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.

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Enjoy this episode of On with Kara Swisher!

From the high speed train wreck at Twitter to the extradition of a fallen crypto kingpin and an AI that can rewrite your dating profile, there’s a lot happening in tech right now. Today, Nayeema moderates a conversation with Kara Swisher and Casey Newton, the tech reporter who runs the Platformer substack. They break down the biggest stories of 2022. And they look at what lies ahead in 2023. Will there be less billionaire grift? Is this the year that AI takes your job? And, ok Google, could this be the year of revenge for Bing? 

This conversation was taped in front of a live audience at Manny’s in San Francisco. 

You can find Kara and Nayeema on Twitter @karaswisher and @nayeema.

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We're looking back at the BIGGEST stories of the year. And what a year! When 2022 began, Russia enjoyed somewhat normal relations with the West, many Covid measures were still in place, Queen Elizabeth II reigned, and Big Tech was entering a second decade of economic dominance. Nothing lasts forever.

Also: Kara and Scott's best brags, insults, and wins for the year.

Happy 2023! Eat it, 2022!

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Kara and Scott look back on a year of predictions. What did they get right? What did Elon ruin? We’ll tally up the wins and losses around super-acquisitions, metaverse real estate, Trump’s SPAC, and, or course, Twitter. Also, friends of Pivot weigh in with their own predictions about augmented reality, privacy, and more.

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Kara and Scott open the ol' listener mailbag to answer queries about LinkedIn etiquette, Microsoft products, and why Jack Dorsey is the best CEO ever. Also, a Pivot listener may have saved someone's life.

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Shortly after we recorded this episode, Sam Bankman-Fried was arrested in the Bahamas. Don't worry, the takes in here are still fresh.

The Respect for Marriage Act is headed to President Biden’s desk, and Sam Bankman-Fried will appear before the House Committee on Financial Services... actually, maybe not. Also, Twitter Blue is making a return, and the FTC has sued to block Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision-Blizzard. Then, a spirited listener voicemail on Kara and Scott’s discussions about Twitter.

We’ll be back with a Listener Mail episode on Friday!

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Twitter ads are showing up on white nationalist profiles, and some big names exit Salesforce. Also, Congress killed the Journalism and Competition Preservation Act, and the divide between the U.S. and China is growing in the tech industry. Plus, Sunny Balwani has been sentenced, and Britney Griner is free. Kara and Scott are joined by Friend of Pivot, Congressman Ro Khanna about the Twitter Files, and his emails.

You can find Congressman Ro Khanna at @RoKhanna on Twitter.

We’re nominated for a Signal Award for Best Co-Host Team! You can vote for us here.

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In another big week for content moderation, internal Twitter emails detailing the decision to block the Hunter Biden laptop story were released, and Ye was suspended from Twitter. Then, welcome to Prof G University: Scott helps us understand how to make good business decisions for stakeholders. Plus, The DOJ wants an independent review into FTX’s bankruptcy, Tim Cook is on damage control on Capitol Hill, and Trump wants to flush the constitution down the toilet.

Then, we’re joined by our Friend of Pivot, Nobel Prize winner Maria Ressa, to talk about democracy and dictatorship. Maria’s new book, “How to Stand Up to a Dictator: The Fight For Our Future,” is out now.

You can find Maria on Twitter at @mariaressa.

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Elon Musk calls a truce with Tim Cook after picking a series of fights with Apple. Kara and Scott review Sam Bankman-Fried's publicity tour, and discuss the Senate's passage of the Respect for Marriage Act. Finally, this episode's listener question comes in via carrier pigeon.

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Guest host William D. Cohan joins Kara to discuss the latest developments in the Twitter saga: banned accounts will return! Apple could ban Twitter from the App Store! Elon drinks caffeine-free Diet Coke?! Also, protests in China could disrupt Apple. Friend of Pivot Anand Giridharadas joins to discuss his latest book, "The Persuaders," and how clear, concise messaging could help save democracy.

Suggested reading:

"Power Failure: The Rise and Fall of an American Icon" by @williamcohan

"The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds, and Democracy" by Anand Giridharadas. You can follow Anand at @anandwrites.

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Happy Thanksgiving! Kara and Scott take a break from the news to answer all your questions about raising happy, healthy, successful Pivot listeners. Between Covid, the economy, and the always-difficult work/life balance, modern parents face unprecedented challenges. Luckily, Pivot's here to answer the What, Whys, and Hows of parenting in the age of endless distraction.

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Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk’s latest moves, including letting Former President Trump back onto the Twitter. And Bob 1 has returned to replace Bob 2 at Disney. Also, Elizabeth Holmes was sentenced to over 11 years, and Swifties are coming for Ticketmaster. Then, they’re joined by former Waze CEO Noam Bardin to discuss his newest endeavor, Post News, a social network with the goal of paying publishers. You can join Post News here: post.news

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Apple will source chips from a plant in Arizona, in a move to lower its dependence on Taiwan. Also, Chief Twit is still at it; this time with a hustle culture ultimatum for Twitter 2.0. Also, Facebook still won’t fact check politicians, including Donald Trump, and Yale and Harvard are done participating in the U.S. News and World Report. Kara and Scott speak with Friend of Pivot and Associate Professor at St. John’s University Law School, Kate Klonick about social media moderation.

You can find Kate at @Klonick on Twitter.

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Kara and Scott discuss the latest belt-tightening measures at Amazon and Disney and the latest round of the Apple v. Epic Games antitrust fight. Also, Twitter’s shrinking workforce, Musk v. Markey, and the mysterious hack that’s just one of FTX’s mounting problems. New York Times Culture Reporter Joe Coscarelli is our Friend of Pivot. He stops by to chat about his new book, Rap Capital: An Atlanta Story.

You can follow Joe Coscarelli here.

In Wins and Fails, Kara and Scott discuss. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. Be sure to check out this episode of Into It: A Vulture Podcast with Sam Sanders, which explores the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

AND...the latest episode of On with Kara Swisher is about Kara’s decades-long relationship with Elon Musk, why she had high hopes for him in the past, and why she’s disappointed now. Check it out here.

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Kara and Scott dissect what the FTX meltdown means for cryptocurrency, Meta's layoffs, and how the midterms might impact big tech. Friend of Pivot Jonathan Haidt stops by to talk about the impacts of social media on teens and society. And hours after our regular taping, we dragged Scott out of a fancy London bar to record an updated reaction to the latest Twitter news: Elon Musk was warning of a possible Twitter bankruptcy, while top executives were jumping ship.

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Kara and Scott question Elon Musk's sense of humor after he bans comedian Kathy Griffin (and others who spoofed his account) over the weekend. They also talk about the layoff trend in the tech industry, as Meta reportedly prepares for a massive reduction in its workforce this week. Friend of Pivot Matt Stoller stops by with reasons to be optimistic about the fight against corporate monopolies.

You can follow Matt Stoller at @matthewstoller, and subscribe to his substack, BIG, here.

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Kara is joined by guest host Kai Ryssdal, Host and Senior Editor of Marketplace! They discuss the latest dispatches from Elon Musk’s Twitter, from layoffs to subscription plans. Also, Amazon’s new post-pandemic reality, and the Fed’s latest interest rate hike. Friend of Pivot Jon Favreau stops by to break down what’s to come in the midterms.

You can find Kai on Twitter at @kairyssdal, and Jon at @jonfavs.

If you want to get involved in the last days before the midterms, visit VoteSaveAmerica.com.

You can listen to Kara’s new show, On with Kara Swisher, here.

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From a misinformation scandal to a so-called trolling campaign, Kara and Scott discuss the first few days of Elon Musk's Twitter. Also, Apple beat earnings expectations, but how long can it depend on iPhone sales? Mark Zuckerberg will testify in a case brought by the FTC, and Lula da Silva takes back the Brazilian presidency. Friend of Pivot Margaret Sullivan talks about the state of journalism and her new book, Newsroom Confidential.

You can find Margaret on Twitter at @Sulliview and Newsroom Confidential here.

Kara’s interview with John Legend will be up soon on On with Kara Swisher - click here to follow the show feed and hear that interview when it’s released.

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Kara and Scott discuss the headwinds Elon Musk and Twitter employees will face, as well as disappointing earnings reports for big tech. Warner Bros. Discovery will pay $1 billion to downsize, and Adidas has terminated its partnership with Ye. Then, a listener question for (specifically) Kara.

*Note: This episode was recorded on Thursday morning and reflects the news at that time.

You can listen to Kara’s new show, On with Kara Swisher, here.

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Elon Musk wants to layoff 75% of Twitter’s staff, and Republicans are suing Google. Amazon's getting in to home insurance, while Apple's getting in to home security. Friend of Pivot Dahlia Lithwick joins to discuss her book, “Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America,” and what the future holds for abortion rights.

You can find Dahlia on Twitter at @Dahlialithwick and can find her book here.

NEWS FLASH: Kara’s Twitter spaces on WTF is happening in England and about the rise of the right can be found in the feed for her new podcast, On with Kara Swisher, along with her interview with Nouriel Rabini.

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Netflix beat estimates for Q3 and added two million subscribers. Meta has Super-App dreams for WhatsApp, and Mark Zuckerberg is ready to take on iMessage. Plus, Twitter freezes employees' stock accounts, and an activist investor grabs a significant stake in Salesforce. Friend of Pivot Ben Smith joins Kara and Scott to talk about the state of media, and the launch of his news platform, Semafor.

You can find Ben on Twitter at @semaforben, and Semafor at semafor.com.

You can listen to Kara’s new show, On with Kara Swisher, here.

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It’s been a big week in right wing media: Kanye’s buying Parler, Murdoch may re-merge Fox and News Corp, and whistleblowers are getting fired at Truth Social. Plus, Musk is under federal investigation, stemming from his attempt to buy Twitter. Also, Apple’s mixed reality headset will scan irises, Netflix’s ad-supported tier will launch November 3rd, and in Big Grocery news, Kroger has agreed to buy Albertsons. Author and historian Anne Applebaum joins to discuss the latest in Ukraine and Russia.