While we check in on our winterizing efforts and recommendations for movies and TV, we also talk about Stephania erecta, Stephania nova, Tylecodon, and [many] other plants. But don't worry - we still argue! Stephen claims that all succulents are "his thing," and then Matthew gives us a glimpse of the inner turmoil a Fiddle Leaf Fig, thoughts about a potential Dracaena, and a sliver of unoccupied window can cause him. Stephen offers a useful solution that will take nine years.