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PAPod 487 - An Insightful Conversation with Lisa Lande

27 min • 9 mars 2024

Welcome to an exciting episode featuring a conversation with Lisa Land, a human and organizational factors expert at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). In this in-depth discussion, Lisa provides valuable perspectives on the role of leadership in the nuclear industry, the importance of resilience, and the integration of safety principles into work culture.

In this episode, we zoom in on the most pressing issues in the nuclear sector, focusing on the balance between organizations transforming into learning entities while maintaining security and ensuring compliance. The conversation also delves into the complexities and complications within organizational structures and workflows.

We explore the functioning of complex systems, including those within nuclear organizations. We discuss the tight and loose connections that exist, emphasizing the need to identify and monitor these links for designing a non-linear, unpredictive, and non-Newtonian workspace. Furthermore, we explore the application of chaos physics to identify early patterns, which could forecast the evolutionary path of the nuclear industry.

The chat closes with an examination of the cultural implications of these adaptive changes. The episode is a must-listen for anyone involved in the nuclear industries on a global scale. Finally, we ruminate on the future of nuclear organizations, highlighting the necessity for dynamic change while upholding stability and the importance of cultural nuances in implementing safety measures. We also ponder on developing fail-proof methods and strategies to fortify resilience in diverse cultural contexts.

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