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Navigating Complex Crypto and DeFi Taxes

46 min • 8 april 2024

It’s that time of year in the USA where the trees are blossoming, the winter jackets are being packed away for the season and there is only one thing on everyone’s mind. Taxes.  

But how do you report DeFi transactions, crypto staking and lending and stablecoin purchases? Well Ian Andrews (CMO, Chainalysis) brings in crypto tax generalist, Lorenz Haselberger (Partner at Shearman & Sterling LLP) to dive deep into the most complex tax implications facing the crypto industry. 

Lorenz unfolds the nuances of reporting taxes within the dynamic and evolving world of cryptocurrencies and shares his journey into the crypto tax niche and unwraps the critical aspects of current tax considerations.

He discusses the tax challenges with DeFi protocols and underscores the  importance of understanding the tax implications for both individual and institutional investors and the need for the US Government to provide more clarity and guidance to the crypto industry 

Minute-by-minute episode breakdown

2 | Lawrence's background in taxation and involvement in the crypto industry 

6 | Discussion on the complexity of reporting obligations for exotic cases like crypto and DeFi lending 

14 | Everything you need to know about staking and potential tax implications

22 | The debate on whether DeFi transactions should be treated as a taxable event

25 | The national and international tax implications for crypto investors vs traders

33 | Debate on expanding information reporting requirements for crypto 

36 | Does tax complexity and uncertainty deter some from participating in crypto?

39 | Differentiating stablecoins from cryptocurrencies for tax purposes

42 | The evolution of DeFi protocols and need for Government guidance for crypto tax implications

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