Do you have difficulty understanding how to include testing in the pipeline? Do you feel it's hard to push something to production? In this episode, we discuss testing in DevOps with guest Lisa Crispin, our expert QA Therapist. Everyone in the testing field knows Lisa; she has written several books about testing and is also keen on Agile and DevOps. Want more resources around adding testing and DevOps? Check out our latest blog posts: https://hubs.li/Q01qB4J50