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How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Build a Modern Detection & Response Program | A Black Hat Europe 2023 Event Coverage Conversation with Allyn Stott

35 min • 22 november 2023

Guest: Allyn Stott, Senior Staff Engineer

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/whyallyn/

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At Black Hat Europe | https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#allyn-stott-42433

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Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

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Episode Notes

In this episode of the ITSPmagazine On Location Event Coverage series, host Sean Martin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with guest Allyn Stott, a seasoned cybersecurity professional and senior staff engineer. The discussion orbits around the challenges and solutions in building a modern detection response program.

Allyn shares his unique perspective on why blue teams often fail. He suggests that the failure is not due to a lack of technical skills, but rather a lack of a broader strategy and understanding of the overall detection response program. He emphasizes the importance of integrating the detection response team into broader business conversations, thereby fostering a more holistic approach to managing risk.

The conversation also explores the role of threat intelligence and the need for continuous learning and adaptation in the face of evolving threats. Allyn underscores the importance of understanding the business's actual risk and aligning the detection response program accordingly.

Allyn also shares his experience in creating a framework to help teams understand their current capabilities and how to evolve towards a more effective detection response program. This framework, he suggests, can help prioritize work within the program and provide a roadmap for reporting out.

This episode is a treasure trove of insights for CISOs, managers, directors, and builders in the cybersecurity field. It provides a roadmap for identifying skill sets, prioritizing work within the program, and reporting out, all crucial elements in building a modern detection response program.

The conversation is a blend of practical advice and philosophical musings on the nature of cybersecurity, making it a must-listen for anyone interested or practicing in the field.

About Allyn's Black Hat Europe 2023 Session, 'How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Build a Modern Detection & Response Program': You haven't slept in days. Pager alerts at all hours. Constant firefights. How do you get out of this mess? This talk gives away all the secrets you'll need to go from reactive chaos to building and running a finely tuned detection & response program (and finally get some sleep).

Gone are the days of buying the ol' EDR/IDS/NGAV combo, throwing some engineers on an on-call rotation, and calling it your incident response team. You need a robust and comprehensive detection and response program to fight modern day attackers. But there are a lot of challenges in the way: alert fatigue, tools are expensive, hiring talent is impossibly difficult, and your current team is overworked from constant firefights.

How do you successfully build a modern detection and response program, all while riding the rocket of never ending incidents and unforgiving on-call schedules?

This talk addresses the lack of a framework, which has led to ineffective, outdated, and after-thought detection and response programs. At the end of this talk, you will walk away with a better understanding of all the capabilities a modern program should have and a framework to build or improve your own.

* How worrying can be a superpower

* Why blue teams fail

* The framework I've developed for building a detection and response program

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Resources

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Build a Modern Detection & Response Program: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/briefings/schedule/#how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-build-a-modern-detection--response-program-34241

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Learn more about Black Hat Europe 2023: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/

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