We Need to Stop the Temperature From Rising If We Don't Want to Ice the CISO Role | A Black Hat Europe 2023 Event Coverage Conversation with Joe Sullivan

Guest: Joe Sulllivan, CEO at Ukraine Friends [@UkraineFriends_]

On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/joesu11ivan/

At Black Hat Europe | https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/briefings/schedule/speakers.html#joe-sullivan-47056

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Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

Most of the time, for these event coverage conversations, we get to connect with keynote speakers to learn more about the topic they plan to share at the event. During our conversation with Joe Sullivan, we did that ... and so, so much more.

We talk about Joe's role in prosecuting cyber crime—and the ironic twist where he was charged and convicted as the former CISO at Uber. We touch on Tim Brown's situation with the SEC as a result of the SolarWinds Breach. And then Joe takes this conversation to the stratosphere to shed some light on the trends he is seeing, the rise in the pressure for the role and the rise in the temperature across the CISO community. He discusses the challenges the CISO role continues to face, and how the growing fear of personal liability as a result of the conflict between the public and private sectors could ultimately ice the role and make it ineffective. Joe wants to change this, is leveraging Black Hat, ITSPmagazine, and other outlets to do so. But he needs the community's help as well.

Tune in to this (dare we say, approaching emotional) conversation to hear about Joe's journey and all the things he is doing to help keep the CISO role safe and successful. And, most importantly, how you—a security professional that cares about good winning over evil—can join yet another fight for good.

About Joe's Keynote at Black Hat Europe 2023 in London, England—'My Lessons from the Uber Case': In a case closely watched and debated by security professionals globally, Joe Sullivan was convicted of two felonies related to a security incident at Uber that the company had labeled a coverup when it fired him. The decision reverberated throughout the security community, but still left many unanswered questions. Before the judge sentenced him, Sullivan committed that he would speak wherever possible about the need for a better model for collaboration between the private sector and government. The judge rejected the claims by the prosecutors and Uber that the use of an NDA during the investigation was a coverup, and sentenced Sullivan to probation only.

Today, Sullivan mentors security leaders and consults on security best practices, in addition to serving as volunteer CEO of the nonprofit humanitarian relief organization Ukraine Friends. In a candid conversation, Sullivan will share the lessons he hopes security professionals all learn from his case, so that they, their team, and their company don't ever go through anything similar. He will also make suggestions for how the private sector and government can better collaborate and share other insights about the high-stakes pressures on security executives in an era of unrelenting breaches, ransomware, and automated attacks.

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Resources

My Lessons from the Uber Case: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/briefings/schedule/index.html#my-lessons-from-the-uber-case-36399

Black Hat Executive Summit: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/executive-summit.html

Learn more about Black Hat Europe 2023: https://www.blackhat.com/eu-23/

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