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"I swapped their smartphones for simple phones." (with Kathleen Barlow)

37 min • 27 februari 2025

Worried about your child’s smartphone use? It’s not too late to make a change. Kathleen Barlow, founder of the “Swimming UpScreen” blog, returns to Scrolling 2 Death to tell us how she reclaimed the simplicity of childhood for her kids. 



With six children aged 18 to 31, Kathleen has seen the dramatic impact smartphones have on childhood development. In 2018, she gave her twin daughters (then age 12) smartphones - which was typical at the time. At 17 and nearing ‘adulthood,’ she worried that their phone use was hindering necessary life skills. She swapped the smartphones for ‘simple’ phones with just calls, texts, and Spotify. No social media, no internet browser.



It wasn’t easy. The girls were not happy. But she took an intentional, gradual approach to introduce the change. The result? She has witnessed a positive transformation in her daughters’ lives now that phones are no longer the focus. Tune in to hear Kathleen and Nicki of Scrolling 2 Death share advice for parents looking to scale back their kids’ screen time.



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