Building Permanent Security Awareness with Daniel Hartert, CXO Advisor at Netskope

This episode features an interview with Daniel Hartert, CXO Advisor at Netskope. Over the last 20 years, Daniel has held CIO and CEO positions at large international organizations like Bayer Business Services and Philips Group. He is also a co-founder of DCSO (Deutsche Cyber Security Organisation), a company working to strengthen protection against evolving and growing cyber threats.

In this episode, Mike sits down with Daniel to discuss communicating with C-suite executives, how advisors can enable people through security, and the critical success factors of a CIO.

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“I'm coming from industries where manufacturing and health and safety was a big point. So, in these industries, there is a mindset around EHS; environmental, health, and safety. [...] I see a strong analogy because watching out for a malicious email or malicious emails is very similar to using the handrailing when walking down the staircase. So, this is what we need to build into the DNA of an organization, this permanent security awareness. And if we can build this, then this protection level of a company will immensely increase. Because in the end, the doors to malicious actions are always the people.” – Daniel Hartert

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Episode Timestamps:

*(02:27): Daniel’s journey to becoming a CIO 

*(05:25): How Daniel transitioned into an advisory role 

*(07:37): Daniel’s take on security as a team sport

*(17:57): How Daniel communicates security to C-suite executives

*(24:09): Ways Daniel thinks about enabling people through security

*(29:22): 2030 Goggles

*(32:09): How we can get more diversity in security

*(34:29): Daniel’s take on zero trust

*(36:50): Quick Hits

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Links:

Connect with Daniel Hartert on LinkedIn

DCSO Germany

Connect with Mike Anderson LinkedIn

www.netskope.com