Fans are IN DENIAL on ZywOo! / b0RUP is weighing down Astralis

Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Cai "CYPHER" Watson to discuss the improvement of SunPayus, NiKo and G2's strong performance at IEM Cologne, FaZe's recent quality of play, the high cost that NAVI had to play for jL and iM, the culture of denial around ZywOo in high-pressure situations, and more!

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