#4: A Recruiter's Guide to Thriving in the Current PM Market with James Jordan

Welcome to another episode of Supra Insider. Following up on last episode’s discussion of the current PM market (episode 3), we wanted to add a new perspective to the conversation by inviting a product management recruiter to the show. 

In this episode, Marc and I are joined by James Jordan, the founder of Producto, a recruiting agency focused on PM hiring from ICs all the way to executives. James is coming up on two decades in recruiting and has a wealth of knowledge about the historical product management hiring landscape and the latest trends.

If you’re thinking about hiring a PM or are a PM looking for a new role, you’ll love this conversation.

In our chat with James, we cover a lot of ground:

* James’s read on the current PM hiring market and what’s changed in the last year

* Why do companies struggle to define what they want in their first PM hire?

* We also discussed how people managers are struggling to break into senior IC roles, how he evaluates ICs vs. execs, and his unique approach to doing references

* We conclude our chat discussing how most candidates are not using LI right, sleeping on networking, and where is the role of the Product going in the next couple of years.

I hope you enjoy this conversation and look forward to hearing your feedback. Thanks for listening!

Links

* James Jordan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesjordanrecruitment

* Producto: https://productotalent.com

* Product toolkit by Ravi Mehta - https://www.ravi-mehta.com/product-manager-roles/

Hosts

* Marc: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbaselga/

* Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benerez/

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