In this conversation, Jordan reacts to Sam Altman's recent interview at Stanford and discusses various topics related to AI, business, and entrepreneurship. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the root problem and having a vision when building a company. Jordan also talks about the need for experimentation and the time it takes for society to fully integrate and utilize new technologies. He highlights the role of institutions and the continuous redefinition of the social contract. Additionally, he discusses important traits for founders and the value of being a generalist in the startup world. In this conversation, Jordan expresses frustration with a professor who asks repetitive questions and wastes time. He also discusses OpenAI's decision to create OpenAI LLC and seek outside funding. Jordan shares his disappointment with the professor's lack of research and criticizes Logan for biting the hand that feeds. He talks about the challenges of creating an effective AI assistant and the potential for Apple to develop an action model. Jordan also mentions the development of a giant military Manta Ray drone and speculates about OpenAI launching a search engine. He concludes by thanking supporters and promoting a sponsor.