Cosey Fanni Tutti (Throbbing Gristle) with Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith Group)

On the occasion of her autobiography Art Sex Music's American book release, industrial music pioneer and acclaimed performance artist Cosey Fanni Tutti (Throbbing Gristle, Chris and Cosey) sat down with Patti Smith Group's Lenny Kaye to discuss her fascinating life on the margins. Their conversation, which took place at McNally Jackson bookstore in New York, takes in the rise and fall of Throbbing Gristle, transgressive art shows, a hilarious story about Tutti using "Because The Night" during her strip routine, and much more. It begins with a stage-setting reading from Art Sex Music.

Many thanks to McNally Jackson and Faber and Faber for allowing Talkhouse to record and release this fantastic conversation.

—Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Music Podcast host and producer