Learn how to get your embedded device to market faster AND with higher quality.
Join Luca Ingianni and Jeff Gable as they discuss how agile methodologies apply to embedded systems development, with a particular focus on safety-critical industries such as medical devices.
The podcast The Agile Embedded Podcast is created by Luca Ingianni, Jeff Gable. The podcast and the artwork on this page are embedded on this page using the public podcast feed (RSS).
Bryan Finster's episode on Luca's DevOps podcast. part one: https://open.spotify.com/episode/26cnxrZEWhQRxY3jkwQTb8?si=Fj3VtirDRU-l2xQAomrWUw
Bryan Finster's episode on Luca's DevOps podcast. part two: https://open.spotify.com/episode/36U6glqDPuvkpPwrdD8Axv?si=8T9isqUHS6WBh1aQyZEXGA
Scaled Agile DevOps Maturity Framework (SADMF), a SAFe parody: https://scaledagiledevops.com/
Klaus Leopold's Flight Levels framework: https://www.flightlevels.io/
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In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, we are joined by Mark VanderVoord and Michael Karlesky, creators of the open-source tools Unity, CMock, and Ceedling, which help developers unit test C code. Mark and Michael share their journey of creating these tools, their experiences as open-source maintainers, and insights into the evolving landscape of embedded systems testing.
The discussion covers the origins of their tools, the challenges of maintaining open-source projects, and the different needs of various embedded development communities. We also explore the gaps in current testing tools, particularly in system and integration testing for embedded systems. The episode concludes with exciting news about the upcoming Ceedling 1.0 release and the launch of Ceedling Pro, a new commercial support offering.
Key Topics Discussed:
Notable Quotes:
"The tools were really easy to develop in the first place. Unity is a very simple thing, and some people just use that without any of the rest of our tools. So the tool concept is not that hard. The thing that's hard, I think, for people getting into test-driven development or even test after is, more conceptual, like what do you test and how do you test it and what's worth doing and what's not." - Mark VanderVoord (10:15)
"GitHub as a tool is amazing. And also there's a couple, I love that they have all these metrics for like contributing to projects and stuff like that. And that really motivates some people, but also that occasionally gets in our way because as Mike said, the easiest path isn't always directly merging something and then they don't get credit for." - Mark VanderVoord (21:30)
"Arduino actually cured me of my hatred for C++. I, for a long time, despised C++. I just, it was just so stupidly complicated and arcane and just a junk drawer of software concepts." - Michael Karlesky (47:30)
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction and guest introductions
3:00 - Origins of Unity, CMock, and Ceedling
9:15 - Barriers to entry for test-driven development in embedded systems
14:30 - Challenges of open-source maintenance
28:00 - Discussion on system and integration testing tools
37:30 - Thoughts on simulators and emulators in testing
41:30 - Changes observed in embedded development communities
47:30 - Arduino and its impact on C++ perception
52:00 - Upcoming Ceedling 1.0 release and Ceedling Pro launch
55:30 - Closing remarks and contact information
For more information about the topics discussed, visit throwtheswitch.org or reach out to Mark and Michael directly.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/100875285/
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www.github.com/ThrowTheSwitch/Ceedling
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Discussing Modern Development Techniques in Embedded Systems
In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, hosts Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni play buzzword bingo, discussing various modern development techniques, tools, and methodologies in the context of embedded systems. They explore the relevance and applicability of terms like microservices, serverless, Kubernetes, Docker, continuous integration, continuous delivery, continuous deployment, A/B testing, API-first design, behavior-driven development, and modern languages such as Rust and C++. They also touch upon the use of AI in development and deployment processes, along with debugging, observability, monitoring, and simulation tools like Memfault, Mender, and Renode. The conversation seeks to provide insights and opinions on which of these techniques and tools are worth investigating or applying to embedded projects.
00:00 Introduction to the Agile Embedded Podcast
00:06 Exploring Modern Development Buzzwords
01:26 Web Technologies in Embedded Systems
05:28 Diving into Docker for Embedded Development
07:49 Understanding Immutable Infrastructure
13:32 Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment
19:53 A/B Testing in IoT Devices
23:06 API First Design in Embedded Systems
26:08 Modern Languages: The Case for Rust
27:54 Exploring Rust in Embedded Systems
28:37 Challenges with Modern C Programming
30:10 Embedded Linux and Language Flexibility
32:27 Model-Based Development with Simulink
33:53 Modern Tooling for Embedded Systems
40:25 AI in Embedded Systems
44:05 AI-Assisted Development
47:36 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Exploring Rust for Embedded Systems with Philip Markgraf
In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, hosts Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni are joined by Philip Markgraf, an experienced software developer and technical leader, to discuss the use of Rust in embedded systems. Philip shares his background in C/C++ development, his journey with Rust, and the advantages he discovered while using it in a large development project. The conversation touches on memory safety, efficient resource management, the benefits of Rust's type system, and the supportive Rust community. They also explore the practical considerations for adopting Rust, including its tooling, ecosystem, and applicability to Agile development. The episode concludes with Philip offering resources for learning Rust and connecting with its community.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:26 Philip's Journey with Rust
01:01 The Evolution of Programming Languages
02:27 Evaluating Programming Languages for Embedded Systems
06:13 Adopting Rust for a Green Energy Project
08:57 Benefits of Using Rust
11:24 Rust's Memory Management and Borrow Checker
15:50 Comparing Rust and C/C++
19:32 Industry Trends and Future of Rust
22:30 Rust in Cloud Computing and Embedded Systems
23:11 Vendor-Supplied Driver Support and ARM Processors
24:09 Open Source Hardware Abstraction Libraries
25:52 Advantages of Rust's Memory Model
29:32 Test-Driven Development in Rust
30:35 Refactoring and Tooling in Rust
31:14 Simplicity and Coding Standards in Rust
32:14 Error Messages and Linting Tools
33:32 Sustainable Pace and Developer Satisfaction
36:15 Adoption and Transition to Rust
39:37 Hiring Rust Developers
42:23 Conclusion and Resources
Resources
The Rust Language
Rust chat rooms (at the Awesome Embedded Rust Resources List)
The Ferrocene functional-safety qualified Rust compiler
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The Dangers of Magic in Software Abstractions
In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, hosts Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni discuss the pitfalls of relying on 'magic' in software development, particularly in tooling, build systems, and frameworks. They illuminate how seemingly helpful abstractions can become burdensome when they obscure necessary complexities or become hard to debug. Through various examples, including comparisons of Arduino and CMake, they explore what makes a good abstraction versus a bad one. The conversation also delves into the importance of composability, testability, and the real-world impact of overly simplistic or 'magical' solutions in long-term projects. The episode wraps up with practical advice for selecting and designing more effective coding abstractions to mitigate risks.
00:00 Introduction and Episode Theme
00:19 The Problem with Magic in Programming
02:54 Examples of Good and Bad Abstractions
04:45 Frameworks and Tools: Arduino vs. CMake
08:10 Vendor-Supplied Tools and Their Pitfalls
13:05 Characteristics of Good Abstractions
29:04 Testing and Abstractions
37:10 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
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Building Trust with Git: Teaching Best Practices to Non-Software Engineers
In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, hosts Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni are joined by Bailey Steinfadt, owner of Stonepath Engineering. Bailey discusses her experiences in teaching Git and other software tools to non-software engineers, particularly in small manufacturing companies. Topics include the importance of visibility and trust in code projects, the typical profiles of her clients, and strategies for effective communication and trust-building between technical and non-technical stakeholders. The episode also touches on useful tools like GitHub, Miro, and Draw.io for managing projects and fostering collaboration.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:24 Bailey's Background and Stonepath Engineering
01:41 Challenges with Non-Software Engineers Using Git
05:46 Teaching Git to Non-Software Engineers
14:35 Building Trust Through Git and Communication
20:45 Tools and Techniques for Effective Communication
37:32 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
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Applying 'Accelerate' Principles to Embedded Systems | Agile Embedded Podcast
Welcome to the latest episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast with Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni! In this episode, we address a listener's question about the book 'Accelerate' by Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble, and Gene Kim. Jeff and Luca delve into how the principles from this book, which focuses on Lean Software and DevOps, can be applied to embedded systems development. They discuss the nuances of embedded systems, the relevance of DORA metrics, and share insights on how capabilities and processes from the book translate to the unique challenges of embedded systems. Tune in to understand how you can adapt and implement these best practices in your projects.
00:00 Introduction to the Agile Embedded Podcast
00:06 Overview of the Book 'Accelerate'
00:50 Research Methodology and Key Findings
02:56 DORA Metrics Explained
05:30 Key Capabilities for Effective Organizations
18:41 Applying 'Accelerate' Principles to Embedded Systems
20:19 Challenges and Considerations in Embedded Systems
34:10 The Importance of Logging and Feedback Loops
37:43 Empowering Teams and Encouraging Experimentation
41:58 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
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Navigating Firmware and Software Collaboration in Medical Devices: Insights with Weronika Michaluk
In this episode of the Agile Embedded Podcast, hosts Jeff Gable and Luca Ingianni are joined by Weronika Michaluk, Software as a Medical Device Practice Lead at HTD Health. Weronika shares her experiences and lessons learned from working with firmware teams, bridging cross-functional collaboration, and discussing the importance of version control, aligning technical aspects, and clear communication. The conversation delves into agile methodologies, customer interactions, and strategies for efficient requirement management in the medical device industry. Tune in to gain valuable insights from Weronika's extensive expertise.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:38 Veronica's Background and Experience
01:54 Understanding Software as a Medical Device (SAMD)
04:14 Lessons Learned in Cross-Functional Teams
05:42 Importance of Version Control
08:58 Team Collaboration and Communication
21:17 Managing Requirements in Agile Development
25:49 Effective Team Collaboration and Documentation
26:24 Tools and Processes for Project Management
26:42 Client and Team Meetings
27:13 Refinement and Feedback Loops
29:38 Change Order Process
36:11 Client Perspectives on Agile
38:09 Challenges with Agile in Medical Device Development
40:18 Differences in Client Types
45:47 Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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Code Retreat -- a community event to practice Software Development: https://www.coderetreat.org
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Max Kolesnikov is a founder and CEO of MKS Technology, an embedded software and controls engineering firm. He has nearly 20 years of experience working in controls and software for real-time, safety-critical applications in automotive and industrial domains.
Max offers embedded software and controls engineering consulting for automotive applications.
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- Twitter: @antmicro . For latest Renode updates, follow @renodeio
- LinkedIn: @antmicro-ltd
Try Renode at https://renode.io/
Github: https://github.com/renode/renode
Check out the Antmicro blog for Renode news:
- ARMv8-A and 64-bit peripheral support in Renode
- Simulating NB-IoT networking in Renode
See the boards supported by Renode: zephyr-dashboard.renode.io
Watch our keynote about Organizing the Hardware Ecosystem with Open Source: Antmicro Visual System Designer during the Embedded Open Source Summit 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XtnTkCRrww
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Check out Allspice:
https://allspice.io
Git for Hardware Guide - 80+ page book on how to apply these principles to hardware development
https://content.allspice.io/en-us/git-for-hardware-guide
See the hardware collaboration platform in action:
https://content.allspice.io/schedule-allspice-demo-allie
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Check out Niall's training company Feabhas.
Feabhas training courses
https://www.feabhas.com/course-list
blog (over 10 years of content)
https://blog.feabhas.com
YouTube list:
Is C+ a Safer C?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lrN5bti-b4
A brief introduction to concepts in Modern C++
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdr-q-uEBjI
Why Rust won't replace C (just yet anyway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojEXMM_1bVA
Other shownotes from things mentioned during the podcast:
Doctest: https://github.com/doctest/doctest
Dev Containers for VSCode: https://microsoft.github.io/code-with-engineering-playbook/developer-experience/devcontainers/
GodBolt compiler explorer: https://godbolt.org/
CPP Insights: https://cppinsights.io/
Catch2 unit testing framework: https://github.com/catchorg/Catch2
Clang-tidy: https://clang.llvm.org/extra/clang-tidy/
Clang-format: https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ClangFormat.html
Mbed OS for ARM: https://os.mbed.com/
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Try Jonathan's Lean CD bootcamp here: leancdbootcamp.com
Find Jonathan Hall here: https://jhall.io/
Minimum Viable CD: https://minimumcd.org/minimumcd/
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Try Memfault at https://memfault.com/.
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Listen to the Embedded podcast here: https://embedded.fm/
Elecia's book "Making Embedded Systems" is highly recommended for junior and senior developers alike!
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Visit Embedded Artistry for courses, resources, and a thriving community of embedded developers.
Learn more about Embedded Artistry's consulting services!
Virtual panel discussion with Memfault on "Debugging Embedded Devices in Production", recorded in August 2022.
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Virtual panel discussion with Memfault on "Debugging Embedded Devices in Production", recorded in August 2022.
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Gene Kim's brief post describing the Three Ways of Devops
An excellent blog post covering practical implications of the Three Ways of Devops
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Embedded Online Conference
IoT Online Conference
RTOS Training with Jacob
Reusable Firmware Development (Book)
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Miro's company, Quantum Leaps, can be found at https://www.state-machine.com.
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Ceedling / Unity / CMock for embedded C unit testing
A Field Manual for Ceedling by Matt Chernosky
How to use Ceedling for Embedded Test-Driven Development (FREE)
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Gherkin: https://cucumber.io/docs/gherkin/reference/
Easy Approach to Requirements Syntax: https://qracorp.com/easy-approach-to-requirements-syntax-ears-guide/
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“Data Model” pattern -- see Patterns in the Machine by John Taylor
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/patterns-in-the-machine-john-taylor/1137499000
“MHC - Model-Hardware-Controller” pattern -- see Test Driven Development course from Throw the Switch
http://www.throwtheswitch.org/dr-surlys-school
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The Git-Flow branching model: https://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/
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The Devops Handbook by Gene Kim, Jez Humble, Patrick Debois, and John Willis
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Bluefruit Software: https://www.bluefruit.co.uk/
Read more about Living Documentation at Bluefruit.
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You can find Jose's company, Bold Type, at https://boldtype.com/
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Find Mojtaba on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mojtaba-hosseini-7a6666/
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"Working Effectively with Legacy Code" by Michael Feathers
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Dojo Five: https://dojofive.com
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Joel Spolsky's post "Getting Things Done when You're Only a Grunt"
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