Complex systems & second-order effects (Interview)

Paul Orlando joins Jerod to talk through some unintended consequences that occur when systems operate at scale. We discuss Goodhart’s Law, The Cobra Effect, how to design incentive systems, dependency management decisions, the risks of autonomous vehicles, and much more along the way.

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Featuring:

• Paul Orlando – Website, LinkedIn, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• The Unintended Consequences blog
• A New Morality of Attainment (Goodhart’s Law)
• The Cobra Effect Redesigned (Examples & Antidotes)
• The Cobra Effect (Part 2)
• Uncertainty Saves Lives – the Peltzman Effect
• Garmin Hack and Dependence
• Autonomous Vehicles and Scaling Risk
• A Pattern Language
• Growth Units: Learn to Calculate Customer Acquisition Cost

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