Welby's Europe speech; +Derby on car wash slavery app; & F.W. de Clerk at CCJ 75th dinner

This week, Madeleine Davies fills us in on the Archbishop of Canterbury's speech on Europe - a story the Church Times broke on Tuesday that has provoked outcry among Brexiteers. Plus, the Bishop of Derby, Alister Redfern, talks to Hattie Williams about the C of E's a new app to help people spot signs of slavery at car washes. And, an extract from a fascinating conversation between the former President of South Africa, F.W. de Klerk, and Lord Finkelstein, recorded at the 75th anniversary dinner of the Council of Christians and Jews. You can subscribe to the Church Times Podcast on iTunes.