Aaron & Brian talk with Lucas Carlson (@cardmagic, Chief Innovation Officer at CenturyLink Labs) and Jonas Rosland (@virtualswede, OCTO at EMC) about the recently released Panamax system to manage Apps, Docker, Fleet and CoreOS. They discuss application templates and how Panamax is working with Mesos, Kubernetes and the Docker ecosystem. Music Credits: Nine Inch Nails (www.nin.com)