Welcome to the Elephant in AppSec, the podcast to explore, challenge, and boldly face the AppSec Elephants in the room. Today, we're joined by an amazing guest, Olivia Rose. You can find Olivia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliviaros... Olivia is an executive leader with more than 20 years of dedicated experience, having served as the former CISO at Amplitude and Mailchimp and currently as the Founder of the Rose CISO Group: https://www.rosecisogroup.com/ Her company offers virtual Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) services, boardroom and leadership communications, assessment services, keynote speaking, event presentations, and career and executive coaching. Olivia is a frequently requested speaker on cybersecurity at events like BSides or RSA, as well as on podcasts. In her free time, she enjoys mentoring young women and minorities interested in pursuing a career in cybersecurity. At Cyversity, Olivia launched and now leads the mentorship program with over 500 participants. In the upcoming episode, Olivia will share with us the dos and don'ts of the AppSec vendor CISO relationship, including why you should never make jokes when talking to CISOs and precious tips for breaking into the cyber world.