Welcome to the Elephant in AppSec, the podcast to explore, challenge, and boldly face the AppSec Elephants in the room. Today, we're joined by an amazing guest, Harsh Modi. You can find Harsh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neighborhoodpenetrationtester/ With over 8 years of dedicated experience as an Offensive Security Engineer and Penetration Tester, Harsh has honed an exceptional skill set in identifying and mitigating security vulnerabilities. Currently, he is an independent consultant and a Lead Security Architect at Bell. Harsh is also an enthusiastic security researcher and has presented his research at various conferences such as OWASP Vancouver, BSides Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary and others, where he shared invaluable insights on different topics ranging from pentesting Android applications to car hacking. With all his experience in pentesting and offensive security, we decided to challenge him on the actual value of pentesting programs. Dive right in!