Welcome to the Elephant in AppSec, the podcast to explore, challenge, and boldly face the AppSec Elephants in the room. Today we’re excited to have an amazing guest, Mel Reyes, joining us. Mel has navigated through two IPOs, three M&As, worked with several startups, Pepsi, Mercedes, and accumulated a bunch of patents along the way. With more than 30 years of experience in various leadership, advising, and coaching roles, he enjoys building and empowering security teams within organizations. He's heavily invested in the cybersecurity community and has built his own, The Fellowship of Digital Guardians: https://fdg.institute/ That’s why we’re extremely excited to talk with him today about investment in security training within the organizations. Tune in and discover whether it's a necessary or overrated expense.