Kelly speaks with Justin Fuisz, CEO and Co-Founder of Octi, a recently launched social media app, about the rapid changes in the metaverse space. We talk about why Apple is a key player to watch; why Octi intentionally looks and feels a lot like TikTok right now; and how people should best get familiar with this emerging space. They also discuss the risks to Facebook's ambitions, and how Octi makes money.