Jake Sullivan on National Security

Jake Sullivan served as national security advisor under President Biden.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Jake Sullivan discuss the record of President Biden’s administration, the future of Ukraine, and how it feels to be making decisions under pressure in the Situation Room.

Note: This episode was recorded on February 12, 2025.

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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