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Lower Decks, Episode 1 "Second Contact" and Episode 2 "Envoys" with Dave H

134 min • 22 december 2024

In this episode, Dave H returns to discuss the first two episodes of Lower Decks, "Second Contact" and "Envoys". Hilarity ensues.

 

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Favorite References

Jeff: when she asks if he knows Kirk, Sulu, etc

Dave: the bucket of contraband

Plugs

 

Jeff's podcasts

 

Shattered Worlds RPG

Everything is Awesome with Jeff and ?

Omniversal Escapades (Jeff’s livestreaming RPG show)

Music

James Lark (composer, podcaster) wrote the theme song for the show Licensed for show use, copyright 2024

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Possible show notes

 

Protect This Slime

 

Recommendations

Monk and Robot

Wayfarers

Ducktales (2017)

Social Media

 

Jeff Richardson

 

@eljefetacoma on Facebook, Twitter, Bluesky, Instagram, and Mastadon

 

Dave is on Discord: The USS Hood @cthulhucalamari

Links

TOS episode "Miri"

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan

Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock

Star Trek 4: The One With the Whales

The Greatest Generation

Star Trek: The Next Generation

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Buffalo jeans

Star Trek: Prodigy

Star Trek: Discovery

Star Trek: Picard

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Saved!

Star Trek: The Animated Series

"The Naked Now"

the TNG episode where Riker is in a holocave with a kid who says he's his dad

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

General Order 5?

12 hours of warp core

The Monkees "I'm a Believer"

South Park zombies

the guy who did choreo for The Matrix (Yuen Woo-ping)

Phil Lamar

MadTV

Futurama

Pulp Fiction

Lower Decks: Warp Your Own Way

Spock clock

Maid Marian from Disney's Robin Hood

Noel Wells

"The Game" TNG

Starfleet dress uniform

Gene Roddenberry

Khan's "Moons of Nibia" speech

TNG episode where Jake takes a shuttle

Ford Windstar

The Janeway Protocol

Anbo-jyutsu

American Gladiators

Morn

Kirk hands

"A Fistful of Datas"

Graham Greene

Yamok sauce episode

Soundbite: Ransom shouts "did I eat flesh? how much did I eat?" 

Mariner:  "We're gonna get your butt in a captain's chair!" 1:04:38

1:21:25 Mariner: "Up and down with the blast shield!"

Show Pic: Boimler saying "Female outside feces feces"

1:36:25 Shapeshifter child: "I'm a little boy!" 

Show Pic: "He likes jamaharon!"

18:24 Boimler: "I should just study bugs on a far off planet!"

Show Pic: Boimler with his pants down

Episode 1 "Second Contact"

 

space station and ships pan into view

a male voice gives a captains log

the Cerritos looks cool as hell

douglas station

cool layers, plenty of depth

great depth of field, fuzzy people in bg and fg

"our specialty is second contact"

black lady opens the door and clowns on purple haired guy for doing a captains log in a closet

shes drunk, busting on him for being a nerd

romulan whiskey is blue

phg says its against regulation, black lady doesnt care

she starts swinging a batleth, cant remember what its called

"i got it from an old guy with an eyepatch"

could it be Martok? surely shed recognize him since hes the chancellor

"worf worf worf i love honor! i demand honor!"

she hacks his thigh, they both scream

credits

beautiful scenery

rocks hit ship (shouldnt the deflector block those)

the ship sees borgs fighting roms and dips out

its got a space whale!

looks so good!

shuttle lands

theres a geordi visor!

an Orion officer

Ensign dvana tendi

shes jacked

blonde guy tells her to keep moving

phg, boimler, is only getting bananas

shes science, boims and mariner are command

"i love science. Uh, its so sciency" is boimler horny for Tendi?

Beckett Mariner

"i cant believe were gonna serve side by side, scientists and commanders, an elite team" shes clearly very into drama

tendi def wants to be CMO

Mariner does not want to be senior (odd then that shes in the command track)

she was promoted, then thought for herself so got demoted

Mariner doesnt like giving the tour but she does need help with contraband

Boims is not amused

Boimler points out places on the map

Mariner clearly has heard Boimlers jokes and is bored with it

Boims thinks bridge is cool

Mariner does not

Rutherford the engineer has a vulcan implant thats goofing up

Ruthy has a date with ensign barnes

M says shes crazy hot

ruthys implant keeps suppressing his emotions

Ruthy is naturally anxious, pukes when stressed?

Mariner pretends not to know what rooms are, Boims calls her out

M "And this is Boims's hidey closet where he pretends to be a captain like a big boy."

B "this is not a good tour!"

they sleep in a hallway

sleep near a shower

Tendi is loving being on a ship seeing the warp trails

its holodeck time!

(i am skeptical that an ensign wouldnt have used a holodeck before. im sure they use them to do the kobayashi maru)

Boims is crazy for warp core

M does not care

Tendi doesnt know about sand? nonsense

also surely Orions have holodecks at least to practice their piracy

Tendis impressed that B gets to go to the bridge

M downplays it

all nude olympic training facility

M should be reported to hr for this one

Galardonian shuttles are badass

Gs themselves are little purple seahorse pigs, some with horns

Ransom, buff white dude, gets bit by insect

R and mustache man are real bros

Boims tries to manage hair unsuccessfully

he enters the bridge in severe anxiety

Black woman captain gives Boims a special assignment

keep an eye on ensign mariner

"i like my crew working in lockstep"

Barnes and Ruthy's date

apparently Billups doesnt know how to talk to women (with future knowledge we have an idea why)

Rs implant makes him harshly vulcan for a sec

her dad was a cyborg

"Shaxs drop his latte again? Guy's got baby hands" would be funnier if wed gotten his name yet, clearly a second watch joke

B is clearly feeling bad and suss

he sees Mariner run off and get in a truck

he follows

Ransom goes nuts

zombie virus, spewing black goo and chewing on a guys neck

B and R still do date even during this madness

disease is either airborne or transferred by goo

cat doctor

T "i was supposed to be assisting Nurse Westlake" cat points at guy on bed snarling "that is nurse westlake!"

B is behind a bush, peeking

he sees Mariner offering starfleet tech to two Galardonians

the planet is so beautiful, yellow sky, reddish brown leaves, pea soup green dirt, fungus balls and tall grass

B jumps out and scares Mariner

he accuses her of selling weapons, she tries to shut him down

Gs try to leave, B shoots the ground

B reads the rulebook

she busts back with more knowledge

its farm equipment

hes surprised

Gs run through gate, leave it open

huge spider breaks out

giant spider is shooting butt webbing

M and B behind bush

M defends herself, saying the farmers were starving so she gave some help

he asks how she knew they exist

she was here last year on the quito before she got demoted to the cerritos

B didnt know her backstory

she was

trapped in a sentient cave

"thats a dark place that knows things"

head taken off by a singing crystal

klingon prison where she had to fight a yeti for her own shoes for no reason. 

"he was just being a dick!"

hes only been to five planets including earth and vulcan

he only knows what in the manuals so he should follow her lead

they cant leave because the farmers need the spider

general order 5

"We'll just stun it." "No could spoil the milk."

B dismisses this, but as i thought about it i realized she saw only one get out which suggests the animal isnt for meat but for some other purpose, its a short leap to milk

"Five ships, yeti shoes, i am always right, take them off now!"

two puppets of them for spider to attack

its going to town on Bs uniform

M is stoked

shes ready to jump on its back

he wants it to destroy both uniforms first

why did she yell Mark before jumping?

she jumps, then B

he gets nabbed by spider which starts gooping and sucking him

he says phaser it

farmers begs her not to

M says we cant let it eat him

farmer says its just suckling for moisture

M yells to Boimler 

"its just suckling you, youre fine"

Boimler has funny scream. M tries to encourage him

"go to your happy place! oo think about the warp core!"

B and M spacewalk to get to the rally point

it looks totally awesome

their suits are low on oxygen? they should be rated for 24 hours or more if show canon is to be believed. how long were Belanna and Tom out there?

she likes The Monkees, Ruthy is into it

"Lets just say I'm a Believer"

Great shot thru window of Shaxs wasting fools as they ascend

B and R are wicked at action stuff

weirdly a hatch wont open for them

i like how he thumbs up for her to move through maintenance hatch then jumps in after, good teamwork during retreat

they take off helmets and kiss

shes like hows it goin

and hes like these doors are messed up

she is not into boring details and walks off

Tendi in sickybay

"pump this, dont pass out. nobodys authorized to pass out"

M havin some wilk while B gets milked

she pulls him out of sleepy spider

"my bones..."

"but im naked"

they drive back thru idyllic landscape with lovely tune

"i think we make a pretty good team, Boimler"

he admits he was told to spy on her

she doesnt get why he worships them

he starts to defend captain but stops

hes going to report her

they get to rally point and beam to ship

everyone is in transporter room

DR taana swipes bs face and analyEs

spider milk

dr t says they should get B to sickbak

"what makes him so special? nothing. its the slime, Captain"

"everyone, protect. this. slime!"

Shaxs bursts through door, carrying B

crew makes it to sickbay

milk will neutralize rage effect

T says Cap doesnt have nuch time. M yells

"oo shouldve washed those hands, captain!"

Ransom is cured

"where am i? did i eat flesh?" "hardly any" "how much did i eat?!"

T sprays purple gas through ship

captain congratulates Dr t

she makes a bad joke, senior staff laugh

M tries to explain that B saved them

Tendi stoked cuz she got to

hold a heart

cap says in report that only dr t saved everyone

she asks B what mariner did

he says she was fine

"maybe that goo that saved the ship messed with my memory"

even now hes trying to correct the record

admiral so and so calls her

"ransom tried to eat a guy. we're

fine"

she wants to throw Mariner in the brig

she loves the brig

T asks R about his date

he praises her but hes not seeing her again

she had zero interest in why a red alert messed with the hatch lock

"who has time for romance when theres a level two diagnostic just sitting there waiting to be run?"

"mm mm dont have to tell me twice i am right there"

B praises M

"starfleet is better with you in it"

B didnt sell her out

she praises him

"were gonna get your butt in a captains chair. guess what mm im your new mentor. boom. surprise bitchh its done how does it feel?"

lower decks cheer

"youre gonna be my chadeetch from now on baby"

she mentions spocks rebirth in star trek 3

mentions khan and space whales

how bout sulu do yiu know kirk my man  worf gary mitchell, do you know deanna troi her body be bangin, she went from a jumpsuit

 

episode 2

"Envoys"

 

cerritos floats above red planet

pale blue sphere enters the hull imto a storage room

M suggests drinkin and gettin a dude all worked up

Tendi doesnt get it

energy sphere appears

"supplicate yourselves!"

Mariner grabs it and tells Tendi to bring a canister

"we can use this thing for all sorts of cool stuff"

she starts to push it into a canister

he says he can grant wishes

Mariners listening

she demands a tricorder with a purple stripe

he loses a bunch of power

she wants a power pack

it gets even smaller

Captain Freeman rolls up and it just darts into her chest shouting "die, mortal!"

T and M are watching video of admiral falling

B comes in with news of his mission

hes talking about someone

they speculate who it might be

Castro, enterprise

Pjoq, what a snack

its Boimler!

piloting general Korin

decorated warrior

they all have an apostrophe

M thinks the cargo bay is exotic

R shows up

hes been in ducts for a week

"thats another three, four days in the tubes!"

R says he'll switch his career to change shifts

B comes into the shuttle bay

Mariners in the shuttle!

shes already there eating ramen and spilling

shes the pilot

he has a dress uniform

blast field down and up with songs

Rutherford tells Billups hes transferring

Billups is totally cool about it

they chant his name

on the shuttle M is passed out

"buried alive

marooned for eternity

moons of nibia"

Bs been studying Korin

deference and respect

M kicks his ass

"Starfleet has made you soft, Mariner!"

"i must update

you on my many sexual contests, Mariner!

What, both of them?"

Korin wants to be landed in Little Kronos

Bs like what?

"I got chewed out, but he got his ass chewed Uuuup"

why is console hot?

multispecies hang spot

unsecured district

theyre blood bonded he passed out on his sword

Korin jakes the shuttle

Mariner laughs "classic Korin"

"did you even read the mission brief?"

"im sorry i skimmed most of it, and read some of the captions"

Boimler is speed walking to conserve energy

"this is serious! i think were violating the Khitomer accords"

"he went north in search of stronger ales!"

so were federation dogs, huh?

"hey if it got us what we needed woof woof"

Ransom does command trainer 43 with Rutherford

captain were being drawn into a temporal rift?

"casualties 105 percent

wait how did i kill more than the whole crew?"

Ransom mentions the Janeway protocol

command trainer 4

should they hit the asteroid?

Janeway protocol?

"all the ships children have been ejected into space."

"all those kids..."

M and B talk philosophy of training

Boimler meets a lady in red

shes real sensual

Mariner washes it off of Brad

"i know you still want it! I can hear your nasty boy thoughts!"

it was an anobaj

weakminded? lol

"An andorian in the bathroom said the generals in a bar down the road"

hes relating engineering to bodies

taana is supportive

she orders him to chat with the guy and keep him distracted

instead R makes him freak out

"Those are dilithium burns? how are you still alive, man? you should be dead!"

"that robot said i was dying"

he joins security

bunch of borgs

program smorgasborg

he uses his implant to be a super kickpuncher

M cautions B to be chill

he gets all huffy

Boimler sees a man being menaced

he runs in

Mariner says no

old guy whines

other guy goes to kick him

B shoots

"Starfleet! I order you to step away from the elder! You idiot thats no elder!"

its a weird little monster - Vendorian shapeshifter

they start a barfight

theres a Morn!

Boimler objects

"this is a violation of the Tulganan neutrality pact"

Mariner jumps up "Kirk hands"

has phaser

she pays for five rounds

"sir i dont know you, thats starfleet property youre handling"

Boimler looks like shit. He feels inadequate because of Mariners awesomeness

"all that studying and where did it get me?"

"i should just turn in my uniform and go work on a research asteroid!"

Mariner is horrified

"do not even joke about that"

17:45 soundbite: Boimler does the shaky video log bit

Mariner says starfleet needs booksmart people like B

he flips his communicator and runs off

Rutherford is in security. Shaxs is giving a speech

"no greater honor than to die beside you in battle."

Rutherford decides to go back to engineering. he needs those tubes

"Got to be true to yourself. am i right bears? oo rah!" Rutherford "Aw, bears!"

ferengi bit

Mariner pretends hes a Bolean

"hey ferengi, get out of here, get get!"

they drag drunk Korin out of the shuttle

"Fetch me my drinking horn, i need ale"

Mariner pretends to have not known the ferengi thing

B promises not to tell anyone

smash cut to him telling everyone

"Muah muah hoo mon" he was doin the hand thing and everything"

Mariner pretends to be offended and jets

she smiles

Rutherford "i belong in the tubes"

she doesnt realize he did all that to be a bro

ferengi dude and Mariner chat

R looks at tube

"isnt it amazing?" she says looking at spce on her pad. R looks at tube. "its beautiful"

 

 

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