Ben Mooney of Back to the Futurama fame joins us to discuss Jeff's favorite film, The Wizard of Oz. We get deep into the weeds on this one, from class struggle to female scientists to the drawbacks of John Carpenter films. Toby Keith gets a shoutout and Glinda gets a critical reappraisal.
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Extended Notes
BRING BACK THE INTERMISSION
A Movie-Ass Movie
movies stayed in theaters sometimes for years
live show during a movie
make every movie a rocky horror picture show
theyre not all winners
LIPSKIN
Oh we've had a beef for some time
some loudass birds
what is this statue for?
you can't blame a tornado on a dog
I'm not saying Toto is on a weight loss journey
Make every effect you can a practical effect
abandoned Oz theme park
youre gonna need another boat
she could be a chaotic good witch
a good post-murder party
you gotta have snacks
where's the Orange Brick Road go?
magic ethereal background singers!
you don't know the rules!
owls and vultures look like shit
far too many monkeys
the witch is so evil she cackles at US
a Prime Directive violation par excellence
Breakdown [Don't Watch It]
Buying a Costume: the coward's way out
Lindsey Nelsen: Certified Spooky Person™️
Ben's Haunted House
so many nieces and nephews
Backtothefuturama.com
Goodmorninggreendale.com
ringmybell.sexandlasers.com
love the wind sound during the overture
victor fleming production/directed as well
munchkins arent credited?
dedicated to the Young in Heart
like when time magazines person of the year was You
chicks chirping!
aunt em
is she playing younger than 16?
wavin that dang hammer at her
lovin the walk on the stall in a nice dress thing
shes gonna get ate by the pigs!
Zekes the cowardly lion!
Aunt Em cant put up with lollygaggers
well dont start posing for it now!
its no place for dorothy qround a pig sty
now go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!
some place where there isnt any trouble
we must discuss the classic anti Jewish stereotype witch/ Miss Gulch (not in the book?)
(Uncle Henry has a long beard in the book and both he and Em are gray and dour, no laughter)
toto whimpering! never heard it before
Elmyra Gulch
for 23 years ive been dying to tell you what i thought of you and now, well, being a christian woman i cant say it
Totos a sneaker
you came back!
good reason to run away
does this mean that Toto's to blame for this entire mess?
or Dorothy for letting him in the garden?
this part is kind of dull visually but the banter is good
no one would ever leave their tray of food down near where a loose dog could get it. sheer madness
i like how the branches are moving out the door
winds pickin up!!
a whopper! to speak in the language of the peasantry!
that model looks amazing
the twister always scares the shit out of me
you can tell Judy Garland is a stage actor dancer type and not a farmgirl, yankin on the cellar door limply
(in the book the cellar door is inside the house)
i just yelled get away from the window! even though ive seen this fifteen times
cart
tree
chickens
knitting lady shes dead
cow dead
two guys rowing dead
Miss Gulch!
oh shit shes a witc
this song is so scary
i forget how scary the music is when watching it with an album
oh! cute utterance amid total silence
toto in full color is even cuter
Munchkin village really could be a theme park area
(in book Munchkins are Dorothy's height, i think they aged Dorothy up for the film)
Toto, I have a feelling were not in Kansas anymore
oh this bitch
Glenda the good witch
(from the book - pic at bottom of notes)
(in book a Munchkin suggests she go to the wizard. doesnt explain why she cant go but plants a protective kiss on her)
i need you to wage war on this other witch
ONLY BAD WITCHES ARE UGLY
shes gone where the goblins go
its funny how they try
to make the kids look older with wildass makeup
Glinda is on valium for sure smiling through the death chat
dude is swinging his sword around in the middle of this melee
ok what
these people are tiny yet their doors still dont fit them
lullaby league has super squeaky song
wicked witch of the east seems so goofy
where are the slippers?
Glinda is such a shit stirrer
the witchs exit is so dramatic
what a smell of sulfur
she doesnt seem all that surprised to find out Oz also has trouble
Glinda you vile shit stirrer - dont take off those slippers!
Glinda's slippers must rule if she doesnt even try to take the ruby ones
it seems like the edits last long as Toto stays on task - i wonder how many takes he ruined
bet Garland was having to feed him treats anytime the camera came on
(theres a ton of eating in the books but not in the film)
why scary music for Scarecrow?
brown nose?
(in the book everyone in the East wears blue, even the scarecrow)
i could while away the hours
pickin wild flowers
individal!
shes really good at gassing up her homeys
how do you follow the ybr if it splits four ways?
uh oh witch be right here? wild. why doesnt she just kill her right here?
why its a man!
oil can!
rusting rain!
did this paint give him cancer?
who sang that lady part? fucking weird
WHEREFORE ART THOU ROMEO? wtf
i cant remember a time this has ever happened in cinema - possibly a Mel Brooks?
can he throw his voice? i need to know the extent of the tin mans powers
toto loves him
the toot toot spooked Toto
what are D and SC whisperin about?
oh takin him with them to the wizard
witch cacklin on the roof?
wanna play ball?!!! this woman just tried to ignite poor SC
oh yeah its lion time
lions and tigers and bears oh my
whats wrong with you teachin em?
Dorothy just slapped him on the face!
(in the book Lion asks what Toto is made of and Dorothy says hes a meat dog!)
afraid of sheep!
without the vim and voive!
if the wizard is a wizard who will serve
(id love it if the lion was a literal lion like in the book, though who will ever redo the Wizard of Oz?)
gorgeous matte painting at the end of wizard of oz song - i want it as a mural
witchypoo is doing something dastardly
(in the book the witch doesnt make the poppies appear!)
poppies will put them to sleep!
get high people
sc and tm dont breathe so theyre fine
(itb they leave Lion in the field! theres this whole section where the queen of mice and her subjects help rescue Lion)
(itb Lion talks like a dnd paladin)
i have this strange memory of wearing a Lion costume and playing TCL, but surely not cuz i dont remember anything else about it
snow neutralizes poppy poison?
but then rusts poor TM
"somebody always helps that girl"
well bust my buttons!
lookat these green motherfuckers
velvet tophat!
oh no its the king of the forest song
yeah i dont like this guys shtick
tm just broke a pot to do a bit? chaos
why the huh at the end?
dont cry dorothy!
door guy had an Aunt Em once? bizarre
the green cathedral hall is real spooky
Toto!
boveen fodder
damn wiz really is ordering them to their deaths
lion leaps through a window with no apparent injury
wrench net gas and gun
those owls are the worst thing in the movie
wait maybe the vultures are worse
that flying monkey should use the slippers, take control homey
too many monkeys
Toto!
i bet those monkeys stink
so many spears missed Toto!
holy shit she's
so evil she cackles AT US!
Toto goes to get the guys!
climbing with lions tail!
its slow goin
witchy is into brutalist architecture
olia jo um
owium
jo um
hooknosed green mongols with naginatas
they all managed
to get their asses kicked
oz is parked right next to the front door? what a doofus
a heart is not judged by how much you love
but by how you are loved by others
You are looking at a man who has laughed in the face of death, sneered at doom, and chuckled at catastrophe. I was
petrified
so the message is stay at home?
surely she just means for two years until graduation, yeah?
now i know ive got a heart, cuz its breaking
say goodbye toto
theres no place like home
she'll have to give up Toto anyway, unless Gulch ate it in the storm