Charlie's swan song remains an emotional, tough episode — even though he's still alive at the end of it! We agree that Jack's plan is a good one and are grateful that Sayid is around to help it happen. Ben takes a series of ever-darker turns. We also return to our conversation with Nestor Carbonell, who introduces us to the lovely concept of "soul groups." Find us on Twitter @TheHatchPodcast and at facebook.com/thehatchpodcast. Leave us your hot take at +1 (954) 6-DHARMA. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.