We love the Kate and Juliet scenes in this episode, and also the Kate and Cassidy scenes in the flashback — but do they pass the Bechdel test? Plus we've got more from TV producer and "fan whisperer" Ivan Askwith, who helps us try to figure out if Damon and Carlton could have given "Lost" a non-controversial ending. Find us on Twitter at @TheHatchPodcast and at facebook.com/thehatchpodcast. Leave us your hot take at +1 (954) 6-DHARMA. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.