We learn so much about Ben this week: He wasn't really born on the Island, his leadership of the Others is more precarious than we thought, and he's been lying about his relationship with Jacob — a lie that Locke calls him on to dramatic effect. Our guest is the episode's director, Bobby Roth. He tells us about filming the Jacob's cabin scene, casting Sterling Beaumon as young Ben and his conversations with Damon and Carlton. Find us on Twitter at @TheHatchPodcast and at facebook.com/thehatchpodcast. Leave us your hot take at +1 (954) 6-DHARMA. Our theme music is by Andy G. Cohen and our cover art is by Danny Roth.