Senior book designer at Scholastic and graphic novelist, Betsy Peterschmidt, and host, Giuseppe Castellano, talk about what it was like working together for four years at Penguin Young Readers Group (Giuseppe was her former art director); how they both live with depression; how she finds illustrators to hire; and what Clifford the Big Red Dog creator, Norman Bridwell, teaches us about rejection, imposter syndrome, and perseverance.