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The Incomparable Mothership is the flagship of the Incomparable podcast network. It’s all about geeky media we love, including movies, books, TV, and more, featuring a rotating panel of guests and hosted by Jason Snell and friends.
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From deep down in the lower levels to high up near the surface, we’re traveling through the post-apocalypic society of “Silo” on Apple TV+. Do eggs exist? What’s in daddy’s secret closet of mystery? Why are Pez dispensers outlawed? We begin with non-spoiler thoughts and then after the spoiler horn, we break down season one and two. (There are no spoilers for the Hugh Howey stories the show is based on!)
"Silo"
Jason Snell with Heather Berberet, Glenn Fleishman, John Siracusa and Aleen Simms
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Live, from The Incomparable, it’s Jason Reitman’s “Saturday Night,” a film that purports to capture the 88 minutes before “Saturday Night Live’s” first live broadcast 50 years ago. All of our panelists agree it’s a well-made movie. There are many actors and comedians playing actors and comedians. But does it all hold together?
"Saturday Night"
Lex Friedman with Monty Ashley, David J. Loehr and Kelly Guimont
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Blending classic Disney animals with a mysterious Miayazki forest, “The Wild Robot” is a story of overcoming your programming and not allowing yourself to become trapped in loops of behavior—whether you’re a robot or maybe even a human being.
"The Wild Robot"
Jason Snell with Brian Warren, Brian Hamilton, Annette Wierstra and Katie Mack
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It’s the end of the world and a robot apocalypse has happened, so what are the robots up to now? One robot butler takes an unusual journey through the darkly absurd world of Adrian Tchaikovsky’s “Service Model.” All bytes will be sorted and preserved, Uncharles.
Book Club: "Service Model"
Jason Snell with Joe Rosensteel, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty and Katie Mack
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Are fairy tales real, or are they mental refuges from the horrors of real life? Guillermo Del Toro’s “Pan’s Labyrinth” toggles effortless between bizarre, Miyazaki-like fantasy (inverted toads!) and an all-too-real tale of violence and treachery in fascist Spain. It’s dark, beautiful, full of disgusting bugs, and manages to use Del Toro muse Doug Jones as not one but two separate monsters!
"Pan's Labyrinth"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Steve Lutz, Tony Sindelar and Monty Ashley
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We send off the crew of the USS Cerritos and salue the completion of the five-year mission of “Star Trek: Lower Decks.” This show expanded what “Star Trek” could be—in several dimensions. And yet it was also utterly, completely a “Star Trek” series. We try to find the special alchemy that brought it all together.
"Star Trek: Lower Decks"
Jason Snell with David J. Loehr, Moisés Chiullán, Scott McNulty and Joe Rosensteel
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The writers of “The Expanse” are back with a new series, and “The Mercy of Gods” is an alien invasion story that goes to some extremely dark places. But sometimes, dark is good… right? Right?! Plus: What are we reading?
"The Mercy of Gods"
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Heather Berberet and Aleen Simms
Next book: “Service Model” by Adrian Tchaikovsky.
What are we reading?
Heather: The Pandominion series, Infinity Gate and Echo of Worlds by M.R. Carey
Aleen: An Ember in the Ashes by Sabaa Tahir
Scott: Jack Taylor series by Ken Bruen, Playground by Richard Powers
Jason: Inverted Frontier series by Linda Nagata (Start with Edges)
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Another year in the books, and there was a lot to appreciate about the stuff we consumed—movies, TV, books, video games, and more—in 2024. Our most prolific panelists collaborate on a massive list of the stuff we enjoyed over the past 12 months.
Best of 2024
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Annette Wierstra, Brian Warren, Kelly Guimont, Moisés Chiullán, David J. Loehr, John Siracusa, Dan Moren and Chip Sudderth
Blurts: Hundreds of Beavers, The Art of Darkness, Sugar, Stereophonic, The Gilded Age, Finding Mr. Christmas, The Incomparable Game Show, Short n’ Sweet.
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For Kilmas this year we travel to 19th century Arizona for “Tombstone,” where Wyatt Earp, his brothers, and their shady pal Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer!) confront a bunch of rotten outlaw thugs and their own mortality. Will our noted hater of westerns, Erika, accept the possibility of a Kilmas miracle? Listen to find out!
"Tombstone"
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Brian Warren, Erika Ensign, Annette Wierstra and Tony Sindelar
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This year’s Ape Club holiday party is 1972’s “Conquest of the Planet of the Apes,” in which the people of Future 1991 use apes as slaves until there’s an uprising led by a talking ape with a familiar name: Caesar. Were the 1970s ape sequels all as bad as we were led to believe, or is “Conquest”… actually kind of good? Join us and find out!
"Conquest of the Planet of the Apes"
Jason Snell with John Moltz, Annette Wierstra, Brian Warren and David J. Loehr
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Merry X-Mas, and goodwill to X-Men! Surprisingly holding down the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe for 2024 is “Deadpool & Wolverine,” in which Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman desecrate “Logan” while honoring it, skewer Marvel movies while saving them, and encounter an extremely unlikely collection of Marvel movie cast-offs and has-beens.
"Deadpool & Wolverine"
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Kelly Guimont, Lisa Schmeiser and Moisés Chiullán
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Miyazaki Club morphs into Ghibli Club as we discuss 1991’s “Only Yesterday,” written and directed by Isao Takahata. It’s a story of one (childless workaholic?) woman’s search for herself in the past and the present, plus, of course, a deep dive into organic farming.
"Only Yesterday" (Ghibli Club)
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Steve Lutz, Aleen Simms, Moisés Chiullán and Lisa Schmeiser
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In honor of Thanksgiving, we review the 1987 classic “Planes, Trains and Automobiles,” featuring Steve Martin and John Candy as trapped-together travelers just trying to get home, if there’s even a home to get back to. Jason comes to the realization that this is the Odyssey in the Midwest. Ben Stein has a special sign just to troll pained travelers. And that’s what Thanksgiving is all about, Charlie Brown.
"Planes, Trains and Automobiles"
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Brian Hamilton, Brian Warren and Andy Ihnatko
The other movies we were reminded of are “Quick Change,” “After Hours,” and “The Out-of-Towners.”
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Several panelists consider Pixar’s “Inside Out” one of their favorite films. Now it’s time to process “Inside Out 2.” Some struggle with the sequel more than others. But at least Bing Bong makes a tiny cameo.
"Inside Out 2"
Lex Friedman with Brian Hamilton, David J. Loehr and Kelly Guimont
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Vin Diesel, Radha Mitchell, Keith David, and a lack of bozos… It can only be 2000’s “Pitch Black,” one of the finer entries in the always-popular “Alien” homage movie genre. We enthuse about elevated filmmaking, great decisions, and low-budget effects.
"Pitch Black"
Antony Johnston with Erika Ensign, Tony Sindelar and Todd Vaziri
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Just in time for Halloween week, Old Spooky Club returns for 1985’s “Fright Night.” It’s an entirely ’80s comedy-horror movie with zero cynicism and only a single layer of meta. Chris Sarandon is the perfect vampire, even when he’s villanously chowin’ down on a topless lady as he exchanges intense stares with the neighbor kid. If you’ve never experienced it, you don’t know what you’re missing.
"Fright Night" (1985)
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Annette Wierstra, Erika Ensign and Kelly Guimont
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Do you like gladiator movies, Joey? It’s 1980’s “Airplane!”—the comedy version of “Zero Hour!”—with serious actors playing ridiculous parts more or less straight. How does the comedy hold up? What’s unique about the approach? Why was it such a huge hit? We put the ZAZ boys under the microscope. Surely we’ll all have a good time! (Don’t call us Shirley.)
"Airplane!"
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Philip Michaels, Dr. Drang and Steve Lutz
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Don’t order the fish! Old Movie Club celebrates Aviatober with 1939’s “Only Angels Have Wings” and 1957’s “Zero Hour!” One bears a striking resemblance to forgettable 1980s TV series “Tales of the Gold Monkey,” and the other is undeniably the inspiration for the more notable 1980 movie “Airplane!” (That’s foreshadowing.)
"Only Angels Have Wings" and "Zero Hour!"
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Philip Michaels, Monty Ashley, David J. Loehr and Micheline Maynard
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It was the late ’80s and comic writer Grant Morrison was fast becoming Grant Morrison. Come back with us to look at his run on Animal Man, issues 1-26, in which a has-been/never-was superhero becomes an outspoken animal rights activist, witnesses the near-undoing of the Crisis on Infinite Earths, and meets his own maker—who looks strangely like Grant Morrison. Before Deadpool and She-Hulk broke the fourth wall, this was Peak Meta.
Grant Morrison's "Animal Man"
Chip Sudderth with Lisa Schmeiser and Tony Sindelar
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Dan Moren’s “The Armageddon Protocol” is now on sale. He joins Jason to discuss how to wrap up a long-running series (while leaving doors open for future adventures), juggling an increasingly complex home life with a two-book contract, the broader publishing options available to fiction writers, and (of course) sandwiches.
Dan Moren's "The Armageddon Protocol"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren
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Miyazaki Club returns to discuss 2010’s “The Secret World of Arrietty,” a Studio Ghibli production with a screenplay by Hayao Miyazaki based on a series of children’s books. Why are we so unnerved by the linear storyline and lack of weirdness? Why does Jason have Bay Leaf head canon? And why is surface tension the true star of the show?
"The Secret World of Arrietty"
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Moisés Chiullán, John Siracusa and Aleen Simms
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“Warner Brothers called and they’re demanding that we do The Matrix IV, with or without you?” So motivated, Lilly Wachowski made a movie that revisits “The Matrix” that’s about revisiting “The Matrix.” Could it be that this 19-years-later sequel… is better than the other sequels?
"The Matrix Resurrections"
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, Erika Ensign and Kelly Guimont
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The Matrix Trilogy ends with “The Matrix Revolutions.” There’s a big fight in Zion, a lot of stuff in the Matrix we didn’t actually remember, everyone becomes Agent Smith, Chip is devoured by thousands of mosquitos, and Kelly resists the bleakness.
"The Matrix Revolutions"
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, Erika Ensign, Kelly Guimont and Joe Rosensteel
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Whoa. Years later, we’re back in the Matrix as we cover the sequels to the mind-blowing 1999 original. First up is “The Matrix Reloaded,” which features thrills, spills, underground orgies, and long philosophical monologues. How well does it hold up? What surprised us? Were we excited, or terrified, to see Zion and all those mech suits? Take the appropriately colored pill and join us.
"The Matrix Reloaded"
Jason Snell with Joe Rosensteel, Erika Ensign and Chip Sudderth
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We’ve reconvened Mad Max Club to come up with some word burgers about “Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga,” the 2024 prequel to the iconic 2015 film “Mad Max: Fury Road.” Does the prequel match up to the original (aka the fourth) film in the franchise?
"Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga"
Steven Schapansky with Erika Ensign, Kelly Guimont and Brian Warren
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Our Ape Club returns to cover 2024’s “Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.” Yes, it’s apes and humans again, but this is a new era with a lot to consider about how history is distorted to serve present-day politics, the value of saving or destroying past knowledge, and the best way to protect an eagle egg.
"Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Brian Warren, David J. Loehr and John Moltz
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Our Book Club wraps up its 2024 walk through nine shortlisted SF/F novels with our overall rankings, some short fiction recommendations, and a quick dip into what we’ve read recently and really enjoyed.
2024 Shortlist Book Club: Rankings and Short Fiction
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Heather Berberet
The Incomparable Book Club Consensus
Novellas
Novelettes
Short Stories
What Are We Reading?
Scott:
Heather:
Erika:
Aleen:
Jason:
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We discuss the recently concluded (first?) season of the Star Wars series “The Acolyte.” The show offers a mix of stuff we like about “Star Wars”, but the panel’s split on whether it managed to do a good job executing its ambitious agenda.
"The Acolyte"
Jason Snell with Tony Sindelar, Dan Moren, Moisés Chiullán and Chip Sudderth
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Have you been watching Prime Video’s “My Lady Jane?” Our panel is so sure you will like this alternate history show that there’s been a minor coup to take over the Mothership. Join us for a spoiler-free opening pitch to entice you into watching this show, then come for the full spoilery episode.
"My Lady Jane"
Annette Wierstra with Erika Ensign and Kirsten Goruk
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Our Book Club convenes for its final set of shortlisted novels, including “The Adventures of Amina al-Sirafi,” “The Water Outlaws,” and the Nebula-winning “Saint of Bright Doors.” Plus: What are we reading?
2024 Awards Book Club, Part 3
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Heather Berberet
What are we reading?
Scott:
Erika:
Heather:
Aleen:
Jason:
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Our Summer of the Planet of the Apes reaches its exciting conclusion with “War for the Planet of the Apes,” which starts out as a war movie but continues mutating into different genres as it goes. We really enjoyed our walk through this underrated trilogy of 2010s action movies, and we hope you did too!
"War for the Planet of the Apes"
Jason Snell with Brian Warren, John Moltz, Annette Wierstra and David J. Loehr
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The Summer of the Planet of the Apes continues with 2014’s “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.” It’s a sequel that’s superior in almost every way, but somehow seems a little less fun, since we can no longer root for the apes. Now there are bad guys on both sides, as Gary Oldman and a chimpanzee named Caesar act out a tragedy of Shakespearean levels.
"Dawn of the Planet of the Apes"
Jason Snell with Brian Warren, Annette Wierstra, David J. Loehr and John Moltz
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You did it, you blew it all up! And now it’s… the Summer of the Planet of the Apes! Our own troop of hairless apes tackles the well-regarded modern “Apes” trilogy this month, beginning with 2011’s “Rise of the Planet of the Apes.” James Franco is a scientist? Brian Cox runs a sketchy ape facility? Tom Felton thinks his dates want to see caged primates? Just when you think this movie has it all backward, that’s when you realize: we’re actually all rooting for the apes.
"Rise of the Planet of the Apes"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Brian Warren, John Moltz and David J. Loehr
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Boot up the Time Window and prepare your memory palace! A full season of the new, Disneyfied version of “Doctor Who” has gone by, and we’ve convened a panel of time experts to discuss the highs and lows, and where the series goes next.
Doctor Who Season 1 Wrap
Jason Snell with Steven Schapansky, Erika Ensign, Chip Sudderth and Annette Wierstra
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“Star Trek: Discovery” opened a new era in Star Trek TV, but now the series has reached its end. How did the new, slimmed-down season 5 storyline work? Were we happy with the series-ending payoff? How were the show’s many interesting characters served in their final go-round? We break it all down.
"Star Trek: Discovery" season 5/series wrap
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Jean MacDonald, Joe Rosensteel and Erika Ensign
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With “Furiosa: A Mad Max Story” in theaters, we thought we would dip back to the original (aka, the fourth) Mad Max movie, “Mad Max: Fury Road” from 2015. It’s a big car chase followed by a race, it’s two hours long, and it’s considered one of the greatest films of all time. Witness us!
"Mad Max: Fury Road"
Steven Schapansky with Erika Ensign, Merlin Mann, Brian Warren and Kelly Guimont
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Our 2024 book club shortlist read continues with “Shigidi and the Brass Head of Obalufon”, “The Terraformers,” and “Some Desperate Glory.” We enjoyed them all, to varying degrees! Plus: What else are we reading?
2024 Awards Shortlist, part 2
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign and Heather Berberet
Next books: “The Adventures of Amina al-Sirafi”, “The Saint of Bright Doors”, and “The Water Outlaws.”
What else are we reading?
Erika:
Aleen:
Scott:
Heather:
Jason:
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It’s been 40 years since the release of 1984’s “The Last Starfighter,” so we finally give this visually groundbreaking film its due. Did we find the early CGI effects as charming as the plot of a small town kid becoming a galactic hero in the distant reaches of space?
"The Last Starfighter" (1984)
Steven Schapansky with Joe Rosensteel, Cicero Holmes, David J. Loehr and Erika Ensign
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You just can’t kill us, unless we’re wearing something on our necks that means you can. We’re back to cover 2018’s “Deadpool 2,” which bring you… more Deadpool. Not necessarily a bad thing, but should it have tried to elevate its game? Does its ending completely invalidate the story? And what’s the serious plot element at the center of the ridiculous meta superhero action?
"Deadpool 2"
Jason Snell with Kelly Guimont, Cicero Holmes and Dan Moren
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With a third movie on the way, it’s time for us to tackle an R-rated “X-Men” spinoff, everyone’s favorite glutton for punishment, 2016’s “Deadpool.” Did it pass the test of skeptical first-time viewers? Does its balance of humor and ultraviolence work? And why did we find this deeply unserious movie strangely affecting?
"Deadpool" (2016)
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Kelly Guimont and Dan Moren
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We begin our walk through the 2024 nominees for Best Novel from the Hugo and Nebula Awards. First up: “Starter Villain” by John Scalzi, “Translation State” by Ann Leckie, and “Witch King” by Martha Wells.
2024 Awards Book Club part 1
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty and Heather Berberet
Our next books, as the shortlist reading rolls on!
What are we reading?
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Put on your mouse ears and step into the TARDIS! We’re discussing the return (rebirth? regeneration?) of “Doctor Who” in 2024, this time on Disney+ (and the BBC). It’s a new era with an old showrunner. How did the 2023 specials hit us, where should curious viewers start watching, and what are our hopes for the coming season?
"Doctor Who" anticipation
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Steven Schapansky, Annette Wierstra and Kelly Guimont
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Why does discussing the overlooked 1991 classic “Dead Again” feel like we’re living a past life? Maybe it’s the shock of seeing young Sir Kenneth Branagh (attempting a weird American accent) and Dame Emma Thompson. Maybe it’s Sir Derek Jacobi making us wonder if that stutter is an “I, Claudius” reference. Maybe it’s the whole romantic fantasy thing, with a Hitchcockian past intruding on a 1990s present.
"Dead Again"
Jason Snell with Glenn Fleishman, Erika Ensign, Annette Wierstra, Dr. Drang and Shannon Sudderth
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It’s time to celebrate the music of the first decade of this century via our 2000s album draft! From opera to show tunes, we’ve got several musical styles covered—and those are just Andy’s picks! Why do James’s picks leave us cold? What is Erika’s favorite Beat Saber band? Why does Kelly use karaoke as therapy? How does Shelly tactically use remixes? And why did Brian insist on editing this episode?
2000s Album Draft
Jason Snell with Brian Hamilton, James Thomson, Shelly Brisbin, Erika Ensign, Kelly Guimont and Andy Ihnatko
“Bring Out Your Beats” round
Brian
James
Shelly
Erika
Kelly
Jason
Longlists
James
Shelly
Erika
Jason
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Our book club reconvenes to discuss the “Shades of Magic” series by V.E. Schwab, as well as the start of a second trilogy, “The Fragile Threads of Power.” Before the spoilers begin, we’ll explain the parallel fantasy world structure and explain why it’s such a great series. Then we’ll discuss the newest book in the series.
Plus: What are we reading?
"The Fragile Threads of Power"
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Heather Berberet
Listener’s Note: Our annual shortlist tour begins in our next episode with “Translation State” by Ann Leckie, “Witch King” by Martha Wells, and “Starter Villain” by John Scalzi.
What are we reading?
Scott:
Aleen:
Heather:
Erika:
Jason:
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Just when we thought we were out, they pulled us back in! Long after we recorded our first episodes about “The Godfather,” our panelists get back together to talk about the late-sequel “The Godfather Part III,” or is it “The Godfather Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone” now? Only Francis knows for sure.
"The Godfather III/Coda"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, John Gruber, Chip Sudderth and Moisés Chiullán
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Get on your sandworm and head south! It’s time to discuss “Dune Part 2,” a sequel with more sand, more Fremen, and more time spent at the super weird planet of the villainous Harkonnen family. Is Paul the hero, or… something else? Dust off the family atomics and join us, won’t you?
"Dune Part 2"
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Kelly Guimont, Guy English and Brian Warren
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It’s the first-ever Reboot a Bad Movie draft! In which our stalwart panelists grab an intellectual-property loser off the shelf, dust it off, and re-envision it in a new way that could maybe, possibly be a hit with modern audiences.
Moisés Chiullán with Lisa Schmeiser, David J. Loehr, Cicero Holmes and Monty Ashley
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Nobody is more surprised than Antony Johnston to find he’s now a cozy crime author. Dan Moren sniffs out the secrets of his “Dog Sitter Detective” series.
Dan Moren with Antony Johnston
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We conclude our movie-by-movie review of the “Back to the Future” series with the western-themed third installment, which features less time travel shenanigans and more old-west shenanigans.
"Back to the Future Part III"
Jason Snell with Lex Friedman, John Siracusa, Brian Warren, Monty Ashley and Moisés Chiullán
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It’s time again. Time! To go forward in time, then backward—or is it sideways?—in time, then further back in time, and then maybe even further back in time. It’s time for the bland future of 2015, the apocalyptic alt-present of 1985, and a familiar 1955. But most of all, it’s time for a Crisis on Infinite Biffs. It’s “Back to the Future Part II.”
"Back to the Future Part II"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Dan Moren, Brian Warren and Shelly Brisbin
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Great Scott! No time to be a slacker, McFly, because we’ve gotta go back in time to 1985 so we can go back to 1955 so we can perfectly time a lightning strike. That’s right, it’s time to talk about “Back to the Future.”
"Back to the Future"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, John Siracusa, Shelly Brisbin, Chip Sudderth and Lex Friedman
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Jason’s favorite movie of 2023 was the gray flipside to “Barbie,” Christopher Nolan’s “Oppenheimer.” And while none of us would exactly call ourselves Nolan fans, this one manages to grapple with a deep subject with great care. It’s got some spectacular scenes that will blow your mind—and a whole lot more scene of men in suits and hats standing around talking.
"Oppenheimer"
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Kathy Campbell and Cicero Holmes
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Two nations, two sitcoms, one premise: What if one of us could see ghosts? Infusing genre complications into the world of TV situation comedies, “Ghosts” has become a hit in both the UK and the U.S.! We recommend both, compare the different versions, and try to explain why the whole idea works so well.
"Ghosts"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Heather Berberet, Cicero Holmes and Erika Ensign
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KNEW THIS WAS ONE WAY TICKET
BUT YOU KNOW I HAD TO COME
At long last, it’s the episode Jason has waited 13 years to schedule. Up from the depths of the ocean comes a long-awaited 4K transfer! It’s time for all of you to join us in watching one of the great (and underrated) adventure films of all time, and perhaps James Cameron’s best film: “The Abyss.”
We watched the Special Edition of the film, and discuss the ways in which it’s superior to the original cut, and the ways it isn’t.
"The Abyss" (Special Edition)
Jason Snell with Todd Vaziri, John Siracusa, Annette Wierstra and Erika Ensign
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We reconvene Miyazaki Club to discuss the master animator’s latest final movie, “The Boy and the Heron.” We went in wondering, will this be lyrical and nostalgic magical realism, or will it be a barrage of super-weird fantastical imagery? The voluminous bird poop and the suit of frogs point the way.
"The Boy and the Heron"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Steve Lutz and Moisés Chiullán
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In 2023’s “Godzilla Minus One,” the classic monster doesn’t just represent nuclear disaster, but crushing guilt on personal and societal levels. What if someone built a deeply emotional human drama that was also a movie where Godzilla destroys a whole lot of stuff? We’ve got the answer!
"Godzilla Minus One"
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley and Moisés Chiullán
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Crack open your psychohistory textbooks and ready a new batch of imperial clones, because it’s time to discuss the Apple TV+ series “Foundation,” extremely loosely based on the classic works of Isaac Asimov. Before the spoiler horn, we talk about why this is a show worth catching up on—and also debate the merits of psychohistory. Then we discuss the first two seasons, which we really enjoyed.
"Foundation" TV series
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Glenn Fleishman, Heather Berberet and John Siracusa
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Happy new year! Some of our most prolific panelists pick some of their favorite media of the year gone by, and a few listeners send in some favorite clips from The Incomparable in this past year. Onward to 2024!
Best of 2023
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Chip Sudderth, Monty Ashley, Dan Moren, Shelly Brisbin, Annette Wierstra and David J. Loehr
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It’s Kilmas 2023, in which we continue our annual celebration of the films of Val Kilmer. This year’s selection is “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,” written and directed by Shane Black. It’s a film noir-ish story that wants to have everything both ways. Val Kilmer’s the best thing in it, of course. The rest of the film feels unstuck in time.
Kilmas: "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Tiff Arment and Dan Moren
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In the spirit of coming downstairs and finding presents waiting under the tree, we offer the Incomparable Toy Draft. It’s not just a story about our favorite childhood toys—it’s also a story about the toys we desperately wanted and never got.
Toy Draft
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Lisa Schmeiser, Kelly Guimont, Moisés Chiullán, David J. Loehr, Chip Sudderth, Monty Ashley, Philip Michaels and Annette Wierstra
Jason: Micronauts
Shelly: Water Wiggle
Jason: 1977 Battlestar Galactica mail-away space station kit
Shelly: Barbie Dream House, GI Joe Helicopter, Creepy Crawler Workshop, Matchbox Parking Garage
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50 years later, “Soylent Green” is still made of people—and its futuristic setting of 2022 is shockingly relevant! But having given this film a full viewing, we think it’s also a pretty good example of ’70s eco sci-fi with a little noir detective flavoring. (Not that kind of flavoring.)
"Soylent Green"
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Monty Ashley, Annette Wierstra, Dr. Drang and Philip Michaels
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Almost 100 episodes later, we reconvene (most of) our original panel to discuss season two of “The Wheel of Time.” How does it fit into the current set of big fantasy TV shows? Team Didn’t-Read-the-Books seems to be in agreement with Lady Dragonmount that it helps when a fantasy saga’s book series is complete before it’s adapted for the screen.
"The Wheel of Time" season 2
Moisés Chiullán with Kathy Campbell and John Siracusa
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We don’t care what the box office says! We saw “The Marvels” and thought it was a lot of fun. And we worry that Marvel may take the wrong lessons from its box-office failure.
"The Marvels"
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, Shannon Sudderth, Sarah Hendrica Bickerton, James Thomson and Kelly Guimont
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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! For the holiday, we give you a turkey of a movie about a duck. It’s 1986’s “Howard the Duck.” (No way to conceal it.)
"Howard the Duck"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Erika Ensign, Moisés Chiullán, Monty Ashley, Steve Lutz and David J. Loehr
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Dan Moren’s new novel ‘All Souls Lost’ is a departure from his previously published work, but not as much as you might think. Antony talks to him about the book, how it came to be, and why it was a long time in the making.
Dan Moren's "All Souls Lost"
Antony Johnston and Dan Moren
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We have some suggestions for the next round of “Star Trek” TV series.
"Star Trek" pitch draft
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Moisés Chiullán, Joe Rosensteel, David J. Loehr and Heather Berberet
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A mother seeks help for her troubled daughter from a medical profession that’s unable to find an answer it can believe. A priest questions his faith, until he gets projectile vomited in the face by a 12-year-old girl with her head spinning around. It’s a horror classic. We celebrate the 50th anniversary of “The Exorcist”!
"The Exorcist" (1973)
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Tiff Arment, Brian Hamilton, Moisés Chiullán and Dr. Drang
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Grab some kindling and prepare to board up a window! Old Movie Club gets in the spirit of the spooky season with the 1969 movie that started it all—and by “all” we mean what we now think of as zombies—“Night of the Living Dead.” For a low-budget movie that features mostly amateur actors and fell out of copyright, it’s a certifiable classic. We’re certifying it right now. If you don’t like it, go back down to the basement, because we’re the boss of the upstairs.
"Night of the Living Dead"
Jason Snell with Tiff Arment, Steve Lutz, Philip Michaels and Erika Ensign
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The Book Club closes the door on this year’s awards shortlist with some lively book ranking and a tour of the nominated short fiction.
Awards novel wrap and Hugo short fiction!
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty and Heather Berberet
Our collective Hugo & Nebula shortlist rankings:
Novellas
Best Novelette
Best Short Story
(Our apologies that some of these stories aren’t available anywhere on the Internet in English… hopefully the attention given by the Hugo nominations will lead to them being available eventually.)
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You will believe a man can fly… a seaplane! We take on the curious 2006 film “Superman Returns,” which is a sequel (sort of) to “Superman” and “Superman II” but most definitely not other movies. There’s a new cast and a new boyfriend for Lois, but Lex Luthor’s still obsessed with real estate. Also, this may be the last movie to feature a fax being sent from a yacht as a key plot point.
"Superman Returns"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Shelly Brisbin, Cicero Holmes, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
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You will believe a man can fly again! Super September continues with a discussion of “Superman II,” a troubled production that shows all the signs of being a superhero classic… but falls short of the mark more often than we expected.
"Superman II"
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Erika Ensign and David J. Loehr
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We entered our viewing of 1978’s “Superman” with nostalgia and a sense of childlike wonder. We exited questioning everything about our fond memories of childhood.
"Superman" (1978)
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Shelly Brisbin, Steve Lutz and Chip Sudderth
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Our Book Club concludes its reading of the Hugo and Nebula shortlist novels with “The Daughter of Doctor Moreau” by Silvia Moreno-Garcia and “The Spare Man” by Mary Robinette Kowal. One’s an homage to H.G. Wells (sort of?) and the other plays like “The Thin Man” in space. Plus: We debate the meaning of star-rating systems, and what else are we reading?
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Scott McNulty
Scott McNulty
Aleen Simms
Erika Ensign
Jason Snell:
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Perhaps the best expression of the DC Animated Universe was its swan song: Justice League Unlimited, which improved upon its predecessor (Justice League Unadorned) with snappier pacing, a conspiracy story arc that anticipated today’s morally ambiguous super-teams, and a jumbo variety pack of DC characters. YES, we’re going to talk about Shining Knight, Bat Lash, and the Question. YES, we’re going to talk about the best-but-most-misplaced epilogue to the DCAU. YES, we’re going to talk about what happens when a super genius and a super genius gorilla tangle in the workplace.
"Justice League Unlimited"
Chip Sudderth with Tony Sindelar, Cicero Holmes, Monty Ashley and Shannon Sudderth
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Arrange an assortment of home-cooked Vulcan appetizers and warm up your singing voices, because it’s time to discuss season two of “Star Trek: Strange New Worlds.” This season took some big swings, and some of them didn’t quite connect—but a whole lot of them did.
"Strange New Worlds" season 2
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Erika Ensign, Dan Moren and Joe Rosensteel
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Is there a movie everyone else thinks is bad, which you secretly love? Maybe more than one? Then this is the episode for you! Antony resurrects his old podcast and asks a panel of guests to draft and talk about movies which are… unjustly maligned.
Unjustly Maligned Movie Draft
Antony Johnston with Chip Sudderth, Jean MacDonald, Sarah Hendrica Bickerton and Monty Ashley
Round 1
Round 2
Round 3
Bring Out Your Dead
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We travel the highways and byways of space, from gross flesh space stations to the weird suburbs of Counter-Earth, all with one quest in mind: talk about Marvel’s “Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3!”
"Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3"
Jason Snell with Brian Warren, Kelly Guimont and Chip Sudderth
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Our book club reads two Hugo nominees, “Nona the Ninth” and “The Kaiju Preservation Society.” One’s the third book in a series that’s a real departure from what has came before, and whether that’s good or bad depends on how you were feeling about the series! The other is a standalone novel that’s perfectly fine, from an author who we think could be a better student if only he applied himself. And as usual, we also recommend many more books for you to read!
Book Club: "Nona the Ninth" and "Kaiju Preservation Society"
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign and Aleen Simms
Next book club: “The Daughter of Doctor Moreau” and “The Spare Man.”
Erika:
Scott:
Aleen:
Jason:
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When a movie is this pink and this popular, we can’t ignore it. Our panel came in with high expectations for “Barbie,” and somehow not one of them was disappointed. What is it about Barbie and Ken that made this movie the hit of Summer 2023?
"Barbie"
Annette Wierstra with Shelly Brisbin, Heather Berberet, Kathy Campbell, Brian Hamilton and Moisés Chiullán
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How can “Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse” live up to its predecessor? It seems like a tough one, but somehow this 2023 sequel manages it. Just don’t expect an ending—it was originally called “Part One” for a reason.
"Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Lisa Schmeiser, Shannon Sudderth and Chip Sudderth
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Our Indy Summer concludes with the new release, “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.” Ticking clocks! Antonio Banderas! Short Round II! We had a good time at the movie and we break it all down.
"Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny"
Jason Snell with John McCoy, Annette Wierstra, Deborah Stanish, Erika Ensign and Steven Schapansky
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Bad news for the haters: We watched “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” and must inform you that our nerd rage of the 2000s has abated and we think it’s mostly okay now, actually. Even the refrigerator.
"Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Annette Wierstra, Brian Warren and Erika Ensign
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Our revisiting of Indiana Jones movies continues with “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade”, a movie that may not achieve true greatness, but sure has a heck of a lot of fun, thanks to a solid job from Harrison Ford and everything Sean Connery says or does.
"Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"
Dan Moren with Aleen Simms, Kathy Campbell, Monty Ashley and Tony Sindelar
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As an adjunct to the Summer of Spielberg, we are revisiting the Indiana Jones movies we only glossed over the last time we covered them! We begin with “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom,” which gets credit for trying something different and demerit for failing at a lot of that.
"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Steve Lutz, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
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“Barry” is the blackest of black comedies — if it’s even a comedy at all by season four. We knew Bill Hader was funny, but now we also know he’s an impressive actor and director, too. This spoiler-laden discussion of all four seasons dives deep into what’s real and not, what’s funny and not, and whether Barry was mostly a trippy homage to “Breaking Bad.”
"Barry" series wrap
Lex Friedman with Brian Warren and Brian Hamilton
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From the sleeper hit that everyone clung to during the COVID lockdowns to a third season with Premier League-levels of hype and scrutiny, Ted Lasso was more than a breakout hit for Apple TV+. We dive into the Good, the Bad, and the Zava and make our picks (“It’s not a draft!”) for what spinoffs we want to see!
Chip Sudderth with Aleen Simms, James Thomson, Kathy Campbell and Shannon Sudderth
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Our book club tackles two Nebula-nominated novels with ampersands in their titles! Is that all they have in common? It’s “Nettle & Bone” & “Legends & Lattes.” Plus: Is Scott the monster again this time? Maybe not!
"Legends & Lattes" and "Nettle & Bone"
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Aleen Simms, Erika Ensign and Kelly Guimont
What are we reading?
Scott:
Erika:
Kelly:
Aleen:
Jason:
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They made a better movie about Dungeons & Dragons! Can you really go wrong with Chris Pine and Hugh Grant? Two expert DMs and a roleplaying novice break it all down!
"Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves"
Jason Snell with Tony Sindelar, Scott McNulty and Moisés Chiullán
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We go 20 minutes into the future and 36 years into the past to discuss ABC’s cyberpunk drama “Max Headroom.” For a show with an 80s pop-culture icon as its title character, it’s actually a prescient satire about where our culture was (and still is?) headed. Even more than three decades later, its discussions of data security, the right to privacy in a technological age, artificial intelligence, and even deepfakes are still state of the art. (Non-American viewers who thought this was the show where Max Headroom introduced various music videos… uh, no.) Catch the wave and join us, won’t you?
"Max Headroom" (ABC)
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Moisés Chiullán, Monty Ashley, Warren Frey and Austin Rich
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They said that “Star Trek: Picard” wasn’t just going to be a “Star Trek: The Next Generation” reunion show, and that turned out to be true, at least about the first two seasons. We review the show’s just-completed third season, which brought us the emotional and nostalgic moments we craved, introduced an assortment of new characters we liked (or didn’t), and introduced some plot elements that we puzzled over.
"Star Trek: Picard" season 3
Jason Snell with Joe Rosensteel, Moisés Chiullán, Cicero Holmes and David J. Loehr
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We gripe because we love! We break down the third season of “The Mandalorian.” Is burying part of the story in another show doing a disservice to this one? Why are there so may plot threads that seem to go nowhere, or get resolved in an anticlimactic fashion? And, despite all that, how did we all still have a good time?
"The Mandalorian" season 3
Dan Moren with Tony Sindelar, Houman Sadri, James Thomson and Kelly Guimont
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Our Book Club begins our walk through awards shortlist reading with two Nebula Awards nominees for best novel, “The Mountain in the Sea” by Ray Nayler and “Spear” by Nicola Griffith. One’s a near-future thriller about sentient octopi, the other’s an Arthurian fantasy with a few twists.
Next time we’ll be reading Nettle & Bone by T. Kingfisher and Legends & Lattes by Travis Baldree. If you’re on Goodreads, you can also join our Book Club there.
Book Club: "Spear" and "Mountain in the Sea"
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Deborah Stanish
What are we reading?
Erika:
Aleen:
Deb:
Scott:
Jason:
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Everyone laughed at the title, and many laughed at the over-the-top violence, but 1987’s “RoboCop” turned into a sleeper hit that kickstarted a major franchise. We revisit Paul Verhoeven’s first and best big-budget sci-fi satire.
Antony Johnston with Erika Ensign, Steve Lutz and Moisés Chiullán
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Sure, she’s a human lie detector, but she’s also a murder magnet who’s running from a guy who seems to want her dead. We enter the world of Rian Johnson’s “Poker Face,” where Natasha Lyonne is both Columbo and The Fugitive.
"Poker Face"
Shelly Brisbin with Antony Johnston, Annette Wierstra, David J. Loehr and Ken Ray
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Old Movie Club throws itself into the turning wheels of justice with two legal films from 1957, “12 Angry Men” and “Witness for the Prosecution.”
"12 Angry Men" and "Witness for the Prosecution"
Jason Snell with Dr. Drang, Shelly Brisbin, Randy Dotinga and Philip Michaels
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Grab a backpack and get ready to siphon some gas—we’re setting out from the safe zone on a quest to find opinions about the first season of HBO’s video game adaptation, “The Last of Us.”
"The Last Of Us" (HBO)
Cicero Holmes with Annette Wierstra, Erika Ensign and Guy English
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Avoid stepping on butterflies, step into your time machine, and go kill your grandfather—it’s time for our Time Travel Movies Draft! We select favorite films from all corners of the time-travel genre, from time loops to historical shenanigans to nonsensical plot twists.
Time-Travel Movie Draft
Jason Snell with James Thomson, Glenn Fleishman, Erika Ensign, Moisés Chiullán, Annette Wierstra and Monty Ashley
Time Travel Movies
Bring Out Your Dead
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Our Book Club reads “Sea of Tranquility” by Emily St. John Mandel, a beautifully written story set in multiple timelines that—like her earlier novel “Station Eleven”—frustrated some, but not all, of our panelists. We also recommend a lot of other books to read!
Book Club: "Sea of Tranquility"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Deborah Stanish and Scott McNulty
Our next Book Club selections are two Nebula Award nominees:
What are we reading?
Aleen:
Deb:
Erika:
Scott:
Jason:
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We wrap up our seven-year walkthough(!) of the seven seasons of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.” The show is slowly grinding to a halt, but are there gems to be discovered? Buffy’s got a speech about that. Maybe the real Big Bad was the friends we made along the way!
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" season 7
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Jean MacDonald, Quinn Rose, Mattie Cox and Steve Lutz
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This week we’re drafting Disney Princesses! There are two simple rules: They must be Disney, and they must be princesses. How far will our intrepid panelists go to stretch those rules? Join us to find out.
Disney Princess Draft
Annette Wierstra and Kathy Campbell with James Thomson, Rosemary Orchard, Moisés Chiullán, Monty Ashley and Glenn Fleishman
James Thomson:
Rosemary Orchard:
Moises Chiullan:
Kelly Guimont:
Monty Ashley:
Glenn Fleishman:
Kathy & Annette:
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Wednesday Addams is not the girl of your dreams — she’s the stuff of your nightmares. Our group of outcasts gathers in our secret library to conjure our thoughts on the first season of “Wednesday”, streaming on Netflix. We discuss what we love about the show, while also trying to figure out, is it really meant for us?
"Wednesday"
Tiff Arment with Brian Hamilton, Glenn Fleishman and Kathy Campbell
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Put on your home-built Iron Man suit and whisper into some beads, because it’s time to discuss “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.” Our panel talks about how the movie leaves space to grieve Chadwick Boseman and T’Challa while also providing a platform for a bunch of black women to take the lead in a geopolitical battle involving the charismatic Namor, the U.S. government, and… the French? We drift into the shipping lanes for a moment, but it doesn’t generate any enthusiasm about the film’s big boat battle.
"Black Panther: Wakanda Forever"
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Moisés Chiullán, Kelly Guimont and Lisa Schmeiser
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Our Book Club reconvenes to discuss R.F. Kuang’s “Babel.” It’s a story about magic and empire and revolution, and our feelings about it are similarly complicated. Plus: A whole bunch of book suggestions!
Our next Book Club selection: “Sea of Tranquility” by Emily St. John Mandel.
Book Club: R.F. Kuang's "Babel"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Dan Moren, Glenn Fleishman, Deborah Stanish, Erika Ensign and Scott McNulty
Aleen:
Erika:
Glenn:
Deb:
Scott:
Dan:
Jason:
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Get in line to order a hero sandwich—not so fast, sidekick! We’re here to talk about 2005’s thoroughly delightful Disney movie “Sky High,” featuring superhero action and teen drama that are both full to the brim—but never quite over the top.
"Sky High"
Jason Snell with Glenn Fleishman, Jean MacDonald, Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms and Dr. Drang
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This week, we’re drafting some spies, secret agents, and con artists. Con artists? Why not? They all use similar skills—sometimes, it’s impossible to tell the difference. From fiction to spoof to inspired by real life, we’ve got it all. Also, is that Cate Blanchett or Tilda Swinton? Good luck, Jim. This episode will self destruct in five seconds.
Secret Agent Draft
David J. Loehr with Tom McGrath, Chris Klimek and Nathan Alderman
Tom:
Chris:
Nathan:
David:
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Put on your headset and get ready to jump into a polt, because we’re going to discuss “The Peripheral,” Prime Video’s adaptation of William Gibson’s novel. What makes its approach to certain famous sci-fi tropes unique? How interesting are the accents? Why is there an invisible car? We’ll answer those questions as soon as we flee to another stub.
"The Peripheral" (TV series)
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Erika Ensign, Lisa Schmeiser and Antony Johnston
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Store up some mana and watch out for maleficers and maw-mouths! We’re going to discuss Naomi Novik’s Scholomance trilogy, which takes the familiar story of a school for teenage magicians and does some very different things with it! Before the Spoiler Horn, we talk generally about the books and why you should read them. Then we dig into some of the details of how the series changes as it comes to its end.
[Our next Book Club selection is “Babel: Or the Necessity of Violence: An Arcane History of the Oxford Translators’ Revolution” by R.F. Kuang.]
Naomi Novik's "Scholomance" trilogy
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Dan Moren, Erika Ensign and Glenn Fleishman
Aleen:
Glenn:
Erika:
Dan:
Jason:
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Our favorites from 2022, plus a few clips.
Our 2022 Favorites
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, David J. Loehr, Dan Moren, Erika Ensign, Monty Ashley, Shelly Brisbin, Glenn Fleishman, Chip Sudderth, Tony Sindelar, Jean MacDonald, Cicero Holmes and Lisa Schmeiser
Moisés Chiullán
David J. Loehr
Dan Moren
Erika Ensign
Monty Ashley
Shelly Brisbin
Glenn Fleishman
Chip Sudderth
Tony Sindelar
Jean MacDonald
Cicero Holmes
Lisa Schmeiser
Jason Snell
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The Knight before Christmas this year is David Lowery’s 2021 film “The Green Knight.” This year’s final Mothership episode is a game inside a gift inside a game, much like the movie. Is every episode featuring Glenn secretly (or not-so-secretly) about Zardoz? What secrets of the exotic West Midlands does Antony have to reveal? Find out as we champion diverging from the path as the most direct route to completing a quest.
"The Green Knight"
Moisés Chiullán with Antony Johnston and Glenn Fleishman
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Our annual Kilmas tradition leads us to watch the questionable 2000 sci-fi film “Red Planet,” in which Val Kimer is at his best, and several other actors are also present. Also, the main plot points of this film are so similar to “The Martian” that we’re now convinced Andy Weir must have seen this film and vowed to do it better. But if you’ve ever wanted to watch a dumber version of “The Martian,” have we found the movie for you.
Rocket Surgery: "Red Planet"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Annette Wierstra, Erika Ensign and David J. Loehr
About Kilmas
by GPT3
Kilmas is a holiday devoted to the celebration of actor Val Kilmer. It originated in the early 1990s, soon after Kilmer rose to fame for his role in the blockbuster film “Top Gun.” Fans of the actor quickly began to gather on December 24th, the day before Christmas, to pay tribute to his career and accomplishments.
Over time, Kilmas has grown into a full-fledged holiday, with fans gathering in public spaces and online to exchange gifts and messages, watch Kilmer’s films, and share their admiration for the actor. In recent years, Kilmas has gained popularity among a wider audience, with people from all walks of life joining in the celebrations.
Today, Kilmas is celebrated around the world, with fans coming together to pay tribute to Val Kilmer and his enduring legacy in the world of entertainment. Despite its somewhat humble beginnings, Kilmas has become a beloved holiday for many, and continues to be celebrated with enthusiasm and joy.
Kilmas Carol
by GPT3
Oh Val Kilmer, oh Val Kilmer
Your acting skills are a wonder
In films like “Top Gun” and “Batman”
You’ve brought joy to fans and haters alike
With your handsome face and charming smile
You’ve captured hearts for quite a while
In “Tombstone” you played Doc Holliday
A role that will never fade away
So on this festive KILMAS night
We raise a glass and toast to you
Here’s to Val Kilmer, a true delight
Merry KILMAS and a happy new year too!
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Star Wars gets serious with “Andor,” a show that gives us exactly what we needed (but didn’t know we wanted?) from the venerable franchise. We break down the plots, characters, and storytelling choices, live from John Siracusa’s living room!
"Andor"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Tony Sindelar and John Siracusa
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At midnight on New Year’s Eve, the S. S. Poseidon, enroute from New York to Athens, met with disaster and was lost. A handful of podcasters follow the challenges faced by a handful of Oscar winners and other assorted stars from the 1970s to celebrate that 50th anniversary of this classic disaster flick. This is their story.
"The Poseidon Adventure"
Jean MacDonald with Steve Lutz, Shelly Brisbin and John Chidgey
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Are you calling us funny? Are we like a clown? Do we amuse you? More than thirty years later, “GoodFellas” still stands up. In honor of the late Ray Liotta, we break down Martin Scorsese’s classic film about street-level gangsters.
"GoodFellas"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Philip Michaels and Monty Ashley
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Put on a magic bangle and pick up your briefcase, because it’s time for us to discuss two Marvel Disney+ series that push the universe in some new and interesting directions, “Ms. Marvel” and “She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.”
"She-Hulk" and "Ms. Marvel"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Cicero Holmes, Moisés Chiullán and Chip Sudderth
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“Weird” is the direct-to-Roku movie that accurately chronicles every aspect of Al Yankovic’s life. This podcast accurately chronicles every aspect of the movie.
"Weird: The Al Yankovic Story"
Lex Friedman with Quinn Rose, Kelly Guimont and Brian Hamilton
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We watched “Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power” and “House of the Dragon” and have thoughts.
"The Rings of Power" and "House of the Dragon"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, John Siracusa, Joe Rosensteel and Erika Ensign
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Put on a jacket and charge up your flamethrower, because it’s almost halloween, and that means it’s time for Old Spooky Club to discuss 1982’s “The Thing.” It’s foul and drippy and gooey—the Thing, that is, and not the movie. The movie’s not foul. It’s the other two, though.
"The Thing" (1982)
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Philip Michaels and Erika Ensign
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Our Old Movie Club sits down with a nice plate of fish and a large glass of water to watch 1972’s “Chinatown.” We discuss the merits of Jack Nicholson, the horror of John Huston’s character, and perhaps the perfect noir screenplay.
"Chinatown"
Jason Snell with David J. Loehr, Shelly Brisbin, Dr. Drang, Steve Lutz and Philip Michaels
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Mystery and mayhem are on the menu as we draft favorite TV detectives. Thomas Magnum is off the board, but everyone else is fair game. Who will our panelists choose to figure out whodunit? Will it be the usual suspects? Surely Jim Rockford will be on the list, unless he didn’t get his voicemail…
TV Detective Draft
David J. Loehr with Shelly Brisbin, Nathan Alderman, Tom McGrath, Katie Siegel and Chris Klimek
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It’s time to reconvene our Book Club, not to talk about an awards shortlist but to recommend books from arbitrarily selected categories. So many books! And not many rocks, we promise.
Antony's book list
Antony Johnston with Erika Ensign, James Thomson and Jason Snell
Our picks for each category:
An SFF book you’d recommend to a non-SFF Fan:
A classic (pre-1990) that still holds up:
A book you didn’t expect to like, but really enjoyed:
The best book you read in the past year:
What are you reading?
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Grab your helm, pouch, and ruby and watch out for dream vortexes! The classic Vertigo comic “The Sandman” has been adapted to a new Netflix show. What do we love about this modern retelling of the story—and what are we unsure about?
Netflix's "The Sandman"
Tony Sindelar with Dan Moren, Glenn Fleishman, Sarah Hendrica Bickerton, Chip Sudderth and Shannon Sudderth
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Russell Crowe! Christian Bale! Natalie Portman! Are they starring in a prestige film that we’re sure to hear about when Oscar time comes around? No, it’s “Thor: Love and Thunder!” But while this movie might not be able to live up to “Thor: Ragnarok,” there are a lot of things we appreciated about it. And also some things we didn’t. It’s all about tone.
"Thor: Love & Thunder"
Jason Snell with Kathy Campbell, Tony Sindelar and Chip Sudderth
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Mum, Dad, it’s evil, don’t touch it! The Summer of Time Travel reaches its end—or is it the beginning?—with 1981’s “Time Bandits,” a children’s fantasy written and directed and even featuring some Monty Pythons. Does it work for adults? Does the tone still work? We fall through a time hole and give our verdict.
"Time Bandits"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, David J. Loehr, Monty Ashley and Shelly Brisbin
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What if H.G. Wells used a time machine to chase Jack the Ripper into the present day (of 1979)? It would look an awful lot like 1979’s “Time After Time,” we’re guessing. David Warner and Malcolm McDowell match wits! Mary Steenburgen is a modern lady looking for an old-fashioned man! Also Jason observes the film’s (pretty good) depiction of San Francisco geography and Jean confronts her young moviegoing trauma.
"Time After Time"
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Moisés Chiullán, Monty Ashley and David J. Loehr
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The Summer of Time Travel meets Rocket Surgery as we watch the very 90s, good-bad film “Timecop,” the movie that answers the question, “What would happen if you tried to kick time itself?”
"Timecop"
Jason Snell with Joe Rosensteel, Annette Wierstra and Monty Ashley
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We take a sideways break from the Summer of Time Travel by verse-jumping across realities to Everything Everywhere All At Once, the multiverse movie directed by The Daniels and starring Michelle Yeoh. Is empathy the superpower Doctor Strange needed all along? Too bad, because he isn’t in this movie!
"Everything Everywhere All At Once"
Moisés Chiullán with Brian Hamilton, Jean MacDonald and Sandra Wong
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The Summer of Time Travel begins/ends/continues (pick one) with 1989’s “Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure,” in which two dumb guys collect some of history’s greatest figures and take them to the mall. Party on, dudes!
"Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure"
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Lisa Schmeiser, Kelly Guimont and Moisés Chiullán
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The days of appointment television are long gone, but what if you could create a streaming service broadcasting the best that TV had to offer in the 21st century? What shows would be on your marquee? We’ve got you covered, with our very first Peak TV draft (patent pending)! Will your favorite shows get drafted? Tune in to find out!
21st Century TV Draft
Cicero Holmes with David J. Loehr, Jean MacDonald, Monty Ashley, Shareef Jackson and Moisés Chiullán
David - “David”
Left over: For All Mankind, Slow Horses
Jean - “Work is Hell”
Left over: Six Feet Under
Monty - “The Monty Network”
Left over: Home Movies, Clerks:TAS, Over The Garden Wall
Shareef - “Laugh & Cry”
Left over: Supernatural, Fringe, House, 24, Lost
Moises - “Science Fiction”
Left over: “BerryVision” (all Matt Berry shows like Darkplace, Toast of London), “DLC aka Doctors Lawyers & Cops” Counterpart, Travelers, Threshold (2005)
Cicero - “CCN+ (Comfy Couch Network Plus)”
Left over: BSG, Insecure, The Americans
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The release of the super-meta “Chip ‘n Dale: Rescue Rangers” with John Mulaney and Andy Samberg on Disney+ put us in mind of a movie from which it borrowed a hunk of its DNA: “Who Framed Roger Rabbit”. We first toon, er, tune our dial to that classic, groundbreaking 1988 Robert Zemeckis-directed film, then look at its 2022 chip off the old block. Forget it, Dale, it’s Toontown.
"Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers" and "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
Glenn Fleishman with David J. Loehr, Shelly Brisbin and Moisés Chiullán
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Thirty-three episodes of new live-action “Star Trek” have now concluded, and we’re going to talk about all of it. We bring some tough love for “Discovery” and “Picard”, which disappointed us. But all is not lost—there’s a lot of unabashed love for “Strange New Worlds.”
Star Trek three-series season wrap
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Joe Rosensteel, Tony Sindelar and David J. Loehr
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On the occasion of the publication of “The Nova Incident,” Jason asks Dan a bunch of questions from readers (and listeners) about his writing career, techniques, tools, and more.
Dan Moren and "The Nova Incident"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren
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Hello there! We discuss “Obi-Wan Kenobi” on Disney+, including Ewan MacGregor’s delight in the role, the return of Hayden Christensen, and balancing the needs of superfans with movies-only fans.
"Obi-Wan Kenobi"
Dan Moren with Kathy Campbell, Chip Sudderth, Tony Sindelar and James Thomson
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Put on your flying cloak and load up on pizza balls, because we’re here to talk about “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.” This is an interesting one, because most of us agree that the movie is fun and inventive in a lot of enjoyable ways—but also entirely mishandles its villain. Can you love a movie that also make you angry? We try! Some of us fail.
"Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness"
Jason Snell with Sarah Hendrica Bickerton, Erika Ensign, Lisa Schmeiser, Monty Ashley and Glenn Fleishman
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Let’s face it, there’s not a lot of evidence to support the cause of adapting video games for movies or TV. And yet we tried the “Halo” TV series from Paramount+ and… liked it? We discuss making the Master Chief a real character with a strong supporting cast, why the UNSC is not trustworthy, the origin of Cortana, and the show’s connections to Star Wars, Firefly, and… 2001?!
"Halo" season 1
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, James Thomson and Dan Moren
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2022 Awards Book Club concludes with three Hugo-nominated novels: Andy Weir’s deep-space problem-solver “Project Hail Mary”; Shelley Parker Chan’s historical epic “She Who Became the Sun”; and Ryka Aoki’s alien-and-demon-packed “Light from Uncommon Stars.” Also, Erika and Jason highlight some of their favorite short-fiction Hugo nominees.
2022 Awards Book Club, part 3
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty and Dan Moren
Our collective Hugo rankings:
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From Duckman to Dicktown, this week we’re covering cartoons… for grown-ups. These animated series have an adult sensibility, and they don’t all feature obscenity, graphic violence, or sexual acts… though some do! Shows like The Legend of Vox Machina, Harley Quinn, Hit Monkey, and Invincible have an adult audience clearly or primarily in mind, while others, like Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law or The Tick require a deep well of cultural references that might leave children (and many adults) baffled. We discuss the overall trend, highlight shows past and present we love, and puzzle out how some shows (good and inexplicable) even came to be.
Cartoons for grown-ups
Glenn Fleishman with David J. Loehr, John McCoy, Lisa Schmeiser, Moisés Chiullán and Tony Sindelar
Notes: Undone season two is already out; we may have called the animated series Disenchantment by the name Disenchanted (an upcoming movie sequel to the Enchanted film); and it’s not clear yet if Hit Monkey has shot its only season.
In this episode, we talked about a hundred or more series, but the following are ones a panelist called out in particular in a very rough order. Links to watch the show may largely work only in the United States.
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Rocket Surgery takes a time machine back to 1930 for “Just Imagine,” a visionary view of the far future of 1980 that’s three movies in one—and feels like it. Then we jump to the real 1980 where, instead of evil martian twins, we find “Flash Gordon,” quarterback, New York Jets.
Rocket Surgery: 1930 to 1980
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Moisés Chiullán, Shelly Brisbin, Monty Ashley and David J. Loehr
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Moon Knight—the butt of a thousand jokes on this very network who improbably made the Sweet Sixteen of our infamous Summer Superhero Spectacular—got his own limited series on Disney+. We talk about the Oscar Isaac of it all, the loving attention to modern Egypt, whether the show is well served by its near-total disconnection to the MCU, and how it might have held up as a ’90s syndicated actioner. (Think “Relic Hunter” production values. You can see it, can’t you?)
"Moon Knight"
Chip Sudderth with Dan Moren, Erika Ensign, Glenn Fleishman and Moisés Chiullán
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Our Book Club continues its walk through the Hugo and Nebula nominees for Best Novel with three books, “The Galaxy and the Ground Within” by Becky Chambers, “A Master of Djinn” by P. Djèlà Clark, and “The Unbroken” by C.L. Clark.
2022 awards book club, part 2
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty, Aleen Simms and Dan Moren
What are we reading?
Dan:
Scott:
Erika:
Aleen:
Jason:
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What do you get when you blend historical fiction, pirates and Taika Waititi? You get “Our Flag Means Death,” an ensemble romantic comedy featuring both ship battles and biting insults.
"Our Flag Means Death"
Cicero Holmes with Annette Wierstra, Moisés Chiullán, Joe Rosensteel and David J. Loehr
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Step into this elevator and leave your personal biographical memories behind… Welcome, Listener I., you’re now part of Lumon, a Very Friendly Company that always has your best interests at heart. We discuss the Apple TV+ series “Severance,” and try to explain why you should watch it, what shows it resembles, and just how much we liked the twists and turns of its first season.
"Severance" season one
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Lex Friedman, Glenn Fleishman and Dr. Drang
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Put on your toque and be sure you’ve got your 4*Town tickets—we’re here to discuss Pixar’s “Turning Red,” a delightful coming-of-age movie about a Chinese-Canadian girl whose body is undergoing some telltale adolescent changes—you know, becoming interested in boys, rebelling against her parents, and transforming into a giant fuzzy red panda. The usual.
"Turning Red" (2022)
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Sandra Wong, Monty Ashley and Joy Piedmont
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Our panel of caped crusaders assemble to dissect 2022’s “The Batman.” The last thing we may have needed was another Batman movie, especially the grimmest, darkest, and longest one ever… but what if we actually liked it? We take apart the new approaches to classic batman stories, Robert Pattinson’s performance, souped-up batmobiles, and Gotham’s weather patterns.
"The Batman" (2022)
Tony Sindelar with Lisa Schmeiser, Guy English, Cicero Holmes and Dan Moren
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Our annual shortlist book club is back! We read two novels that were nominated for Best Novel in the Nebula Awards! SB Divya’s “Machinehood” is a near-future story of gig workers, weak AI servants, and rebellious space stations. Jason Sanford’s “Plague Birds” is a post-apocalyptic story about strong AIs and gene-altered people that’s so far in the future that it feels almost like fantasy. Plus: We recommend other books we’ve enjoyed recently!
2022 Awards Book Club, part 1
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign and Scott McNulty
What have we been reading?
Scott
Erika
Jason
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Cue the electric bass and the full brass section, we’re talking Bond, James Bond this week. We make time for “No Time to Die,” of course, and the rest of the Daniel Craig era. How does it hold up, where does it go from here, what would we like to see? How does the latest movie reset the table? Were we shaken, stirred, or something in between?
"No Time to Die" and the Craig Era of Bond
David J. Loehr with Kelly Guimont, Nathan Alderman and Tom McGrath
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Old Movie Club returns with two films that imagine attempts to disrupt the United States government. In 1954’s “Suddenly,” Frank Sinatra’s going to try to kill the President. In 1964’s “Seven Days In May,” Burt Lancaster is plotting a military coup. Both films are in black and white from more than 50 years ago, and yet for some reason Phil thinks their themes may resonate even today…
Old Movie Club violently overthrows the U.S. government!
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Shelly Brisbin, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
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Fire up your Bernoulli Conversionator and check your trunk for stowaways, because we’re entering the Wachowski sisters’ candy-colored 2008 road rally through the Uncanny Valley, “Speed Racer.” It’s an eye-searing acid trip of a movie, with groundbreaking storytelling, an earnest heart, and a curious void at its center. (There is also a chimp.) We’ll discuss how this film fits into the Wachowskis’ canon, the supporting character whose story is way more interesting than the lead‚ and the only other big-budget film since that has dared to get this stylistically weird.
"Speed Racer" (2008)
Nathan Alderman with Lisa Schmeiser and Shelly Brisbin
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We’re back with our third Incomparable Film Festival! Nine of us are programming a day’s worth of films, all with secret themes which will be revealed as the podcast progresses! And while we are currently unable to pull off the Incomparable Film Festival in an actual movie theater, we encourage you to watch these great movies in the comfort of your own home.
2022 Film Festival Draft
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Moisés Chiullán, Shelly Brisbin, Erika Ensign, David J. Loehr, Cicero Holmes, Steven Schapansky and Dan Moren
Extras
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We’ve drafted many things on many episodes of this podcast, but we’ve never drafted podcasts! You get it: Panelists share (and draft!) their favorite podcasts, in categories like Comedy, Narrative, Fiction, Entertainment, and more.
Podcast draft
Lex Friedman with Brian Hamilton, Monty Ashley, Shelly Brisbin and David J. Loehr
Comedy:
* Shelly: ICYMI
* Brian: The Flophouse
* David: No Such Thing As A Fish
* Lex: Judge John Hodgman
* Monty: Comedy Bang Bang
Narrative:
* Shelly: Ear Hustle
* Brian: The Dream
* David: If I Go Missing: The Witches Did It
* Lex: Over My Dead Body
* Monty: Cocaine and Rhinestones
Fiction:
* Shelly: Bronzeville
* Brian: Alice Isn’t Dead
* David: Give Me Away
* Lex: Hello From The Magic Tavern
* Monty: Off Book: The Improvised Musical Podcast
Entertainment:
* Shelly: Gates McFadden Investigates
* Brian: The Besties
* David: Films To Be Buried With
* Lex: Smartless (not Conan, HDTGM, or WTF)
* Monty: Blank Check
Wildcard:
* Shelly: NitrateVille Radio [You Must Remember This, Crimetown, NYT Book
Review, Hit Parade]
* Brian: My Brother, My Brother, and Me [You’re Wrong About, We Have Concerns]
* David: The Memory Palace [99% Invisible, Twenty Thousand Hertz, Infinite
Monkey Cage, A Degree Absolute ]
* Lex: Threedom [Missing Richard Simmons, The West Wing Weekly, Reply All]
* Monty: Bonusnanas for Bonusnanza [Bonanas for Bonanza, Conan O’Brien Needs a
Friend, Podcast: The Ride, Good Christian Fun]
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Get out your pocket knife and stick to the Wheel—we’re a traveling band of podcasters who move from town to town to re-enact conversations from before the apocalypse! Or at least that’s who we’d be in our version of the HBO Max miniseries, “Station Eleven.” We discuss the moving, optimistic post-apocalyptic tale that is told in a fractured time sequence and features lots of Shakespeare and a suspiciously powerful self-published graphic novel. And though there’s definitely no “Station Twelve” on the horizon, we can’t help but imagine what other stories are there just waiting to never be told.
"Station Eleven" (miniseries)
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Annette Wierstra, Jean MacDonald and John Siracusa
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Let’s hold hands and sneak through some eerie city ruins. Video game club is back in session to discuss “Little Nightmares II”, the creepy prequel to the beloved spooky platformer, Little Nightmares. We play as Mono, a bag-faced boy, as he and his companion navigate a world of puzzles and monsters lurking in the dark, only to be led to his own nightmare.
Little Nightmares 2
Tiff Arment with James Thomson and Brian Hamilton
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This episode features a book with fantasy zombies and a book with alien hive minds. Talk about range! Our Book Club reconvenes to discuss the fantasy mystery “Witness for the Dead,” a standalone book set in the world of “The Goblin Emperor”, and “A Desolation Called Peace,” the conclusion of the duology begun in the award-winning “A Memory Called Empire.” Plus: What are we reading?
Book Club: "A Desolation Called Peace" and "Witness for the Dead"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Glenn Fleishman, Scott McNulty and Erika Ensign
What are we reading?
Scott:
Erika:
Glenn:
Dan
Jason:
Time codes for skippers:
00:32:35 - Discussion for “A Desolation Called Peace”
00:58:54 - “What Are we Reading?”
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Remember that cool bounty hunter from The Empire Strikes Back? What happens when you give him his own show? “The Book of Boba Fett” is the answer—or is it? After all, parts of this show are really episodes of a different, arguably better show. Our panel discusses the seven-episode season and tries to figure out if this mess is hot or cold.
"The Book of Boba Fett"
Dan Moren with Erika Ensign, Chip Sudderth and Kathy Campbell
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In this episode we break down the final season of Prime Video’s “The Expanse.” Was it too abrupt? What was all that Laconia stuff? Then, after a brief intermission for TV viewers to depart, we discuss “Leviathan Falls” and the end of the Expanse book series. One story, so many endings!
"The Expanse" season 6 and "Leviathan Falls"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Aleen Simms, Jen Burt and Chip Sudderth
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In this six-hundredth episode of The Incomparable, recorded across two separate sessions, we talk about a whole bunch of novels—namely, our picks for the best SF/F novels of the first decade of The Incomparable, the 2010s! For our purposes, we’re designating the “decade” as 2010-2019. Along the way, we may ponder the most important question a reader should ask: Are there Zeppelins?
2010s book draft
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Dan Moren, Glenn Fleishman, Aleen Simms, Erika Ensign and David J. Loehr
Round One:
Round Two:
Round Three:
Round Four:
Round Five:
Also Mentioned/Not Picked (Compiled by Listener AJ):
Glenn:
Scott:
Dan:
Jason:
Aleen:
Erika:
David:
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It’s time to channel that Tired Dad Energy, because we’re going to discuss Marvel’s “Hawkeye,” bro. Kate Bishop! Yelena! Echo! Surprise cameos, including one by an owl! It’s a TV series nobody watching “The Avengers” would have ever wanted, yet a worn and exasperated Jeremy Renner as the mentor to a young woman with strong archery skills ends up being a delightful holiday adventure.
"Marvel's Hawkeye"
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Dan Moren, Chip Sudderth and Lisa Schmeiser
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We’ve rounded up a posse and are saddling up to discuss the Netflix original film “The Harder They Fall,” a revisionist western starring Idris Elba, Jonathan Majors, and Regina King. This movie is more ornery than a pole cat with a hangnail! We ride at noon!
"The Harder they Fall"
Cicero Holmes with Nathan Alderman and Shareef Jackson
Edited by Steven Schapansky.
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Get your college applications ready and prepare to gross out about organic web shooters—it’s time for us to discuss “Spider-Man: No Way Home,” the conclusion of Tom Holland’s origin trilogy as the web-slinging hero… and a surprisingly substantial follow-up to five other Spider-Man movies, too. It’s “Spider-Man: Endgame,” and with great podcasts, there must also come great responsibility… to talk about Spider-Man.
"Spider-Man: No Way Home"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Chip Sudderth and Kelly Guimont
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More than three decades since the Wheel of Time book series began, it’s arrived as a TV series on Prime Video. We discuss the first season with the help of our resident Wheel of Time book expert and three non-book-readers. How much is or isn’t it the “next Game of Thrones?” Why would it need to be be? And how does a book series that was wildly progressive for the 1990s approach a modern audience?
"The Wheel of Time" (season 1)
Moisés Chiullán with Glenn Fleishman, John Siracusa and Kathy Campbell
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Hot dog! It’s time for our annual look back at the year gone by. And it was certainly a year! Some of us caught up on stuff, while others who usually abandon their lists as winter turns to spring decided not to bother making lists at all! As is traditional, our panelists and listeners pick favorite Incomparable episodes and moments in this episode. Did the best moment of the year happen in last year’s clip show? Are there multiple clip loops running now? Has The Incomparable finally ground Jason down into mush? The answers are within!
2021 year in review and clip show
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Erika Ensign, Jean MacDonald, Dan Moren, David J. Loehr, Monty Ashley and Moisés Chiullán
Our picks:
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Merry Kilmas to all who celebrate the works of Val Kilmer! This year, our Kilmas selection is “The Saint,” a very 90s spy movie featuring surprise sweater reveals, tension-free water pipe escapes, and a wide collection of accents, wigs, and pseudonyms—all from Val Kilmer, of course.
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Dan Moren, David J. Loehr, Jean MacDonald and Moisés Chiullán
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We watched all eight hours of the Disney+ documentary “The Beatles: Get Back” and now we’re going to talk about it. Toast, vests, London Bobbies sucking on their chin straps, Debbie the receptionist, Paul as “second boss”, Yoko’s knitting, George Harrison’s pinstripes, and most importantly, the amazing view of a bunch of musical geniuses having a very difficult time creating anything at all.
"The Beatles: Get Back"
Jason Snell with Steven Schapansky, Monty Ashley, Guy English and Amy Gruber
Edited by Steven Schapansky.
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Grab your Tamagotchi Baby Monitor, because it’s time to discuss “Doctor Who: Flux,” a six-episode season that had a lot of plot, a lot of characters, and a lot of questions, many of them unanswered! We discuss what worked this season and what didn’t, anticipate the 2022 run of specials to end Jodie Whitaker’s era, and ponder what Modern Doctor Who looks like when Russell T Davies takes over the show (again) in 2023.
"Doctor Who: Flux"
Jason Snell with Steven Schapansky, Erika Ensign, James Thomson and Antony Johnston
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We discuss Marvel’s weird and epic “Eternals,” which breaks a lot of Marvel-movie conventions while attempting to tell a different kind of story with a whole lot of new characters. It’s full of interesting choices, some of which pay off, while others end up amounting to not very much.
"Eternals"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Quinn Rose and Chip Sudderth
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We’ve gathered the family around the table to celebrate F’sgiving, a thing we just made up in which we care enough to watch a film featuring F. Murray Abraham. In this case it’s “Last Action Hero,” a movie that Wikipedia claims is a cult classic. We don’t know about that, but it certainly is unjustly maligned. This is a big, loud action movie that is also a parody and celebration of big, loud action movies. Sure, it’s got its flaws—we’re looking at you, kid—but there’s a whole lot to like.
"Last Action Hero"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Erika Ensign, Steve Lutz and David J. Loehr
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Put on your stillsuit and prepare your sand compactor. We’re venturing out into the uncharted deserts of Arrakis with “Dune,” Denis Villeneuve’s cinematic take on the oft-filmed Frank Herbert novel. We do some comparing and contrasting with David Lynch’s version, question whether this adaptation is for fans for for people who know nothing about “Dune”, and basically stare at a bunch of big spaceships hanging in the air. Denis Villeneuve knows what we like.
"Dune" (2021)
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Jean MacDonald and Joe Rosensteel
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Buy those bongos and make it a 30-piece drum set, because legendary one-season wonder “Freaks and Geeks” is finally available to stream. This is an amazing show with a fantastic cast about a bunch of geeks and burnouts in Michigan in the early 1980s. It’s a sweet and funny and awkward and painful story about growing up and trying to figure out who you are, while everyone else in the world wants to label you and make sure you never forget your label. We discuss our favorite ancillary characters, the richness of the world of “Freaks and Geeks”, and how upon rewatching the show 20 years later, we have gained even more appreciation for Mr. and Mrs. Weir.
"Freaks and Geeks"
Jason Snell with Tiff Arment, Steve Lutz, Annette Wierstra and Marco Arment
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Just in time for Halloween, our mega-sized Old Movie Club meets up in a spooky haunted house to discuss two horror-comedies that honor their source material more than you might think — it’s 1948’s “Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein” and 1974’s “Young Frankenstein.” We learn that werewolves can fly, quoting film dialogue on the playground can be cruel, and in the end it turns out that none of us are the doctor—we’re the monster.
"Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein" and "Young Frankenstein"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Monty Ashley, Steve Lutz, Shelly Brisbin, Moisés Chiullán, Dr. Drang and David J. Loehr
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We return to “Ted Lasso” to discuss the second season of the Apple TV+ comedy-become-dramedy, with an increased view into mental health, questions of relationship power dynamics, the power of Rom-Communism and Holiday Specials, and much more.
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"Ted Lasso" season 2
Jason Snell with Myke Hurley, Kelly Guimont, James Thomson and Dan Moren
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Our Book Club reconvenes to discuss two final 2021 Best Novel nominees, “Harrow the Ninth” and “The Relentless Moon.” We also discuss all the Hugo Award nominees for short fiction, rank the books, and recommend some books we’ve been reading lately!
2021 SF/F Novel Shortlist, part 3
Jason Snell with Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign and Aleen Simms
Erika:
Aleen:
Scott:
Jason:
The Incomparable’s Rankings:
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Old Movie Club likes to watch… old movies. And these are old movies about the price and perils of watching (and listening). We view the Hitchcock classic “Rear Window” and visit the smelly, greasy, fuzzy ’70s film for “The Conversation.” Also, we call back to the Summer of Spielberg with a discussion of how Francis Ford Coppola’s career making art films like “The Conversation” was derailed by fantastic commercial success.
"Rear Window" and "The Conversation"
Jason Snell with Dr. Drang, Philip Michaels, Dan Moren, Erika Ensign and David J. Loehr
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In this flash episode we discuss the head-scratching news from two of our favorite franchises, as the prodigal showrunners have returned! First it’s the news that Russell T Davies, who brought “Doctor Who” back in 2005, is reuniting with his producers from that era to produce and write the show. Then came the announcement that J. Michael Straczynski has been contracted with The CW to write a pilot for a rebooted “Babylon 5.” Can you go home again? Will they play the hits or strike out in new directions? Just a reminder, nobody is going to delete your favorite old episodes—not even the BBC.
The prodigal showrunners return
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Shannon Sudderth, Chip Sudderth and Steven Schapansky
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Get out your bus ticket and get ready to go live on the Internet, because it’s time to talk “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings.” Marvel returns exclusively to theaters, and so do we, as we discuss Tony Leung, the dangers of deferred maintenance on articulated buses, hanging a lantern on a dragon, and the emotional weight of a single arrow.
"Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Kelly Guimont and David J. Loehr
Moisés’s movie list:
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Arr, matey! Not only be it days from the equinox, but it be International Talk Like a Pirate Day. What better time to wrap up the Summer of Spielberg with “Hook,” a (misguided?) Peter Pan sequel starring Robin Williams as Peter, Dustin Hoffman as Captain Hook, and Julia Roberts as Tinkerbell, all gallivanting around a very crowded and overlit stage-set version of Neverland. We discuss the movie’s appeal to early-nineties kids, Spielberg’s commercial sensibility as a director, and the film’s many misguided creative decisions.
"Hook"
Jason Snell with John McCoy, Kathy Campbell, Moisés Chiullán and Annette Wierstra
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As we prepare to exit the Summer of Spielberg, things have taken a bit of a turn. We’ve taken out our surgical tools to diagnose just what went wrong with “Ready Player One,” in which a director who is much more interested in movies than video games and who himself deeply influenced 80s culture is put in charge of a too-faithful adaptation of a book about video games and 80s culture. We spent a lot of our time imagining a much better movie that could have been made instead of this one.
"Ready Player One" (film)
Jason Snell with Brian Hamilton, Erika Ensign, Annette Wierstra, Moisés Chiullán and Chip Sudderth
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Hop on your tripod killing machine and watch out for common cold viruses — if it’s New Jersey, it must be an alien invasion! We cover 2005’s “War of the Worlds,” starring Tom Cruise as a dad who just wants to protect his kids from the end of the world. Well, maybe one of his kids. Screaming! Explosions! Implausible plot points! Not enough Miranda Otto! Maybe too much Tim Robbins! The 9/11 influence is strong in this one.
"War of the Worlds" (2005)
Jason Snell with Shelly Brisbin, Monty Ashley and Jean MacDonald
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Stand up and prepare to operate your computer by waving your hands! The Summer of Spielberg continues with 2002’s “Minority Report,” a sci-fi noirish murder mystery combined with a vision of the future and a dose of social commentary. We discuss the future’s retinal-scanning obsession, Tom Cruise’s security eyes, and the amazing precog named Agatha. Is it now? I’m tired of the future.
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, James Thomson, Monty Ashley and Annette Wierstra
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The Summer of Spielberg turns its eyes to “A.I. Artificial Intelligence,” a project begun by Stanley Kubrick and completed by Steven Spielberg. Whether it works for you may hinge entirely on if you consider it a science-fiction story or a fairy tale. We marvel at some great performances, are frustrated by some creative choices, and in the end find ourselves applauding the boldness of the ending. (Now pass us some tissues, we’re ugly crying.)
"A.I. Artificial Intelligence"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Cicero Holmes and Monty Ashley
Edited by Steven Schapansky.
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The Summer of Spielberg continues with what was once the biggest movie of all time, “Jurassic Park.” And you know what? It holds up, though we have an awful lot of questions about John Hammond and his business choices. Unfortunately, we also watched the Spielberg-directed cash-grab sequel, “The Lost World: Jurassic Park.”
"Jurassic Park" and "The Lost World: Jurassic Park"
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Kathy Campbell, Tony Sindelar and Jean MacDonald
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Prepare your mashed-potato sculpture and zip up your red jumpsuit, because we’re about to discuss the 1977 film classic “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” We discuss why this film is Steven Spielberg’s tapas, French-American UFO projects, “American Graffiti” with flying saucers, and much more. Plus Dan reveals a most unusual location to watch this film for the first time. It’s shaping up to be a real Summer of Spielberg.
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Julia Skott, Annette Wierstra and Dan Moren
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Grab a TemPad and step through a Time Door, because we’re discussing “Loki”, Marvel’s Disney+ series about how the god of Mischief met his match and learned to love himself. Along the way we talk about the “Doctor Who” references, the deep-cut comics references, the mighty Richard E. Grant, and the spectacular look and sounds of this outstanding series.
"Loki"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Moisés Chiullán, Kathy Campbell and Nathan Alderman
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Put on your catsuit and your tactical vest, because we’re about to talk about Marvel’s “Black Widow,” which some of us saw in theaters. (And some of us didn’t.) This is a movie delayed from pre-COVID times, it’s the first Marvel movie in the Disney+ era, and it’s set during 2016’s “Captain America: Civil War”—conveniently before the main character dies. With all that, it’s also a film that puts its title heroine at the center of a “Mission: Impossible” style story that’s also, strangely, about a couple of particularly messed-up families.
"Black Widow"
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, Dan Moren, Kelly Guimont and James Thomson
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Get out your ice skates, baseball bats, kitchen knives, and samurai swords—pretty much any weapon at hand, because we’re watching 2011’s “Attack the Block”! While not officially part of the Cornetto Trilogy, this British alien-invasion film shares a lot of DNA with those movies, and it’s about as close an analog to “Shaun of the Dead” as you’ll find—but with the comedy dial turned down a bit. It features career-making performances by John Boyega and Jodie Whittaker, who went on to become the faces of famous sci-fi franchises. And after the last 10 years, some of the social commentary in this film hits home more than ever. Allow it!
"Attack the Block"
Jason Snell with Antony Johnston, Lisa Schmeiser and James Thomson
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Some people read with their eyeballs, and still others talk to their books—we do both! In part two of our three-part survey of novels shortlisted for 2021’s top SF and Fantasy awards, we’re discussing the magic and romance of “The Midnight Bargain” by C.L. Polk, the spooky “Mexican Gothic” by Silvia Moreno-Garcia, and the murderbotiness of “Network Effect” by Martha Wells. Plus, what else are we reading?
The Midnight Bargain, Mexican Gothic, and Network Effect
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty and Aleen Simms
What we’re reading:
Scott: The Galaxy and the Ground Within, Oona Out of Order.
Aleen: The Hidden Palace, Kitchen Confidential
Erika: Recently Read 59-63, Fugitive Telemetry (The Murderbot Diaries Book 6), Where Oaken Hearts Do Gather, Power and Majesty.
Jason: Flowers for Algernon, Binti.
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Look, we love the Muppets. But the franchise has been very quiet lately. It’s time to get Muppet movies back on the big screen! And so in this episode, all our panelists pitch new Muppet movies we’d like to see. And along the way they do a bunch of Muppet voices, too, because of course they do.
Muppet movie pitch draft
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Stephen Hackett, Quinn Rose, Moisés Chiullán, Nathan Alderman, David J. Loehr, Monty Ashley and Kelly Guimont
Pitches:
What was left:
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Back in 2014, we read Helene Wecker’s novel “The Golem and the Jinni,” and we liked it! Little did we know that she was listening to us… and that she would end up as an Incomparable panelist! Now a sequel, “The Hidden Palace: A Novel of the Golem and the Jinni” has arrived! In this special episode, Jason and Helene discuss the first novel, how real life can intrude on a publishing schedule, the value and temptation of research, and how “The Hidden Palace” ultimately came together.
Helene Wecker and "The Hidden Palace"
Jason Snell with Helene Wecker
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Put on your capes because we’re flying into superhero action with season one of Prime Video’s “Invincible,” based on Robert Kirkman’s long-running comic. Before the Spoiler Horn, we’ll tell you why this show is worth watching—and warn you about how it mixes its love of brightly colored superhero imagery and storylines with logical but unrestrained violence and gore. Then we break down some of this adaptation’s interesting story choices and ponder where it might be headed in season two and three.
"Invincible" season one
Jason Snell with Glenn Fleishman, Moisés Chiullán and James Thomson
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We know there are a lot of superhero movies out there. Sometimes it seems like there are so many, it’s as if a random-number generator just assigned pieces of intellectual property to film directors. But where some might despair at this situation, we looked at it as an opportunity to harness the terrible power of the random-number generator and use our own creativity to assign the right directors to the right comic-book film projects. Now listen to our choices and try to tell us that any currently in-production films are any less ridiculous.
Jason Snell with Nathan Alderman, Monty Ashley, Lisa Schmeiser, Philip Michaels, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
Final Results
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Olo! It’s time to discuss an underappreciated superhero movie that’s only become more relevant after a decade full of superhero movies. It’s 2010’s “Megamind,” which transcends being an extrusion from the Dreamworks animation factory (well, except for its pop-music soundtrack) to become something greater. With an all-star cast led by Will Ferrell and Tina Fey, this is a great riff on the Superman mythos and the true meaning of destiny and heroism. Code: It’s great.
"Megamind"
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, Annette Wierstra, David J. Loehr and Moisés Chiullán
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Our Book Club returns with a new way to approach this year’s SF novel shortlist: we’re reading all the Hugo and Nebula novels in three batches. First up: “Black Sun,” “The City We Became,” and “Piranesi.” Plus: What are we reading?
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty and Aleen Simms
What we’re reading:
Scott: The Liar’s Dictionary (Apple, Amazon)
Erika: “Unseelie Brothers, Ltd.” by Fran Wilde
Aleen: Stephens & Mefisto and Ruth Galloway series by Elly Griffiths; Dragon Blood Series by Lindsay Buroker
Jason: A Desolation Called Peace (Apple, Amazon) by Arkady Martine, Empress of Forever (Apple, Amazon) by Max Gladstone
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Don your winged jetpack and strap on your cybernetic arm, because it’s time to fight over a shield. Marvel’s second Disney+ series, “The Falcon and the Winter Soldier” picks up the story of two of Captain America’s pals as they confront serious societal issues, the representation of America in the modern age, and a gaggle of super-powered foes. It’s a show that takes some big swings, even if it does get a bit muddled, and we discuss its ambitions, what it gets right, and where it misses the mark.
"The Falcon and the Winter Soldier"
Dan Moren with Kelly Guimont, Lisa Schmeiser, James Thomson and Nathan Alderman
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Drop the camcorder and whatever you do, don’t run toward the bridge! 2008’s “Cloverfield” mixes giant monsters, post-9/11 reactions to urban destruction, rom-com tropes, “Jaws” style monster hiding, and found footage shaky-cam into an incredibly intense movie experience. Does it matter that the main characters are generic, or does it actually help? Is this a slasher film or more of a smasher film? Why did it kick off a nonsensical franchise of unrelated movies? And if it was made today, how would it be different? (Hint: Less shaky-cam!) Find a quiet place to hide somewhere and join us!
"Cloverfield"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Moisés Chiullán, Jean MacDonald and James Thomson
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We have reached the end (for now) of Miyazaki Club. So we gather back together to consider why we’re drawn to Hayao Miyazaki’s work, how we define the differences between films as different as “Ponyo” and “Spirited Away,” a list of the director’s favorite things, subs versus dubs, the music of Joe Hisaishi, and which of Miyazaki’s movies we all prefer.
Miyazaki Club graduation
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Aleen Simms and Steve Lutz
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After years of Monty telling us we should watch it, we’ve given in. It’s time to discuss 1981 South African karate movie “Kill and Kill Again,” a film featuring many middle-aged men kicking people, as well as a James Bond-style plot about a madman who wants to take over the world via an unusual application of potatoes. We cover strange ties to “CSI: Miami” and “The A-Team,” introduce you to the wonders of Hot Dog and his bag of tricks, weigh the movie’s knowing sexism against its unflinching racism, and contemplate Villanous Operations and how they are named. Also, Jason has a tight five about t-shirts.
"Kill and Kill Again"
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Steve Lutz, Annette Wierstra, Moisés Chiullán and Tony Sindelar
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In space, all warriors are cold warriors! An ecological disaster leads to the breakup of an enemy empire, but in “Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country” it’s the Klingon moon Praxis subbing in for the Soviet power station Chernobyl. Kirk and company struggle with their animosity toward the Klingons, but we are more concerned with what graduate school Gorkon’s daughter went to, the Klingon guard who carries a box, the one Klingon who laughed at McCoy’s joke, the importance of gaseous anomalies to Federation politics, and the lack of respect given to the Enterprise court reporter. Discussing this movie must’ve been our lifelong ambition.
"Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Steven Schapansky, David J. Loehr, Dan Moren and John Moltz
Technology Untangled: Join Michael Bird as he untangles innovation through a series of interviews, stories, and analyses with some of the industry’s brightest brains.
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Six episodes ago, Jason made Phil mad by suggesting that “Chariots of Fire” and “Amadeus” might not be worthy of their Academy Awards for Best Picture. This episode is Phil’s revenge, as we watch two acclaimed early-80s films and see how well they hold up. They’re both period pieces, but one is set to the electronic sounds of Vangelis and the other to the classical masterpieces of Mozart. Running in slow motion has never looked better, and there’s never been more braying laughter in a film!
"Chariots of Fire" and "Amadeus"
Jason Snell with Monty Ashley, Philip Michaels and David J. Loehr
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Shakespeare Club returns! “The Taming of the Shrew” is a Shakespeare play that’s crying out to be adapted for modern audiences, which is why it keeps being adapted—with varying degrees of success. We discuss the play, the unpleasant Franco Zeffirelli 1967 film starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, the film and TV versions of Cole Porter’s “Kiss Me, Kate,” the teen rom-com “10 Things I Hate About You,” and even the 1980s TV adaptation on “Moonlighting,” which might be the best of the bunch? What we’re saying, Shakespeare, is that we’ve got some notes.
Shakespeare Club: "Taming of the Shrew"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Shelly Brisbin, Moisés Chiullán and David J. Loehr
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It’s a classic sitcom! It’s a Marvel movie! It’s both! It’s the first Disney+ MCU show, “WandaVision.” And it managed to be a walk through television history while simultaneously being an exploration of the stages of grief. Plus, an android in a turtleneck! We break it all down, from where Wanda and Vision go from here to what Monica Rambeau, Darcy Lewis, and Jimmy Woo should be doing next. Tune in, won’t you?
"WandaVision" season wrap-up
Jason Snell with Kelly Guimont, Dan Moren, Chip Sudderth and Nathan Alderman
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Is this the end of Miyazaki Club? Probably not, but we’ve reached the end of our survey of all the feature films he’s directed with “Porco Rosso,” the story of a pig man, the airplane he loves, the woman he doesn’t feel worthy to love, and the seaplane pirates who terrorize the Adriatic after World War I. There are lots of clouds and planes and boats, as you might expect.
"Porco Rosso"
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Moisés Chiullán, Steve Lutz and John Siracusa
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The sixth season of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” features dark and unpleasant themes, a painful magic-as-heroin allegory, and creative decisions that manage to be cruel to both the show’s characters and its audience. But there’s also a musical!
"Buffy" season 6
Jason Snell with Steve Lutz, Quinn Rose, Aleen Simms and Jean MacDonald
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We discuss the latest season of Amazon’s “The Expanse,” which separates its main characters for storylines all across the solar system. How well does that approach work? How do Amos and Peaches differ? Why should Alex never be a detective? And do we hate Marco Inaros the appropriate amount?
"The Expanse" season 5
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, Aleen Simms, Chip Sudderth, Jen Burt and Will Wagner
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We’re using our powers over space and time to capriciously right wrongs throughout movie history. That’s right, it’s the Bad Best Picture Draft, in which our panelists will select a Best Picture Oscar winner, take its statuette away, and hand it to a more deserving winner.
Bad Best Pictures Draft
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Lisa Schmeiser, David J. Loehr, Shelly Brisbin, Steven Schapansky, Philip Michaels, Monty Ashley and Brian Hamilton
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Miyazaki Club gets weird with “Ponyo,” a story of a fish who gets the taste of human blood, lives in a bucket, can cure all diseases with a lick, and just wants to be human. Also there’s a plot for the sea to sweep away humanity, and the Moon comes perilously close to Earth. But cute!
"Ponyo"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Steve Lutz, Aleen Simms and Jean MacDonald
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After a long gap, our Book Club reconvenes, and if they can remember Micaiah Johnson’s “The Space Between Worlds,” they’ll recommend it to you. It’s a story about identity and society set across parallel worlds that are even more similar than they initially appear to be. Also, what else have we read lately? Curl up with a good book and keep an eye out for parallel-universe warlords!
"The Space Between Worlds"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Erika Ensign, Scott McNulty and David J. Loehr
Aleen
Erika
David
Scott
Jason
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From Canada comes “Letterkenny,” an unlikely comedy series about rural hicks, burnouts, and hockey players that’s hyper-verbal, charmingly prone to a donnybrook, and one of the funniest things we’ve watched recently.
"Letterkenny"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Lisa Schmeiser, Casey Liss and Don Schaffner
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Let’s fly! Our panel discusses the just-completed third season of “Star Trek: Discovery,” including new characters, future technologies, turbolifts that are bigger on the inside, and how Saru is very much like Poochie.
"Star Trek: Discovery" season 3
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Anže Tomić, Erika Ensign, David J. Loehr and James Thomson
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This week we’re discussing Pixar’s “Soul,” a film about the meaning of life, but also occasionally a wacky comedy about a talking cat or a dream pirate! But mostly the meaning of life. Watch out for the great Bug Zapper in the sky!
Pixar's "Soul"
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Chip Sudderth and Jean MacDonald
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It’s time for our annual look back at the year gone by, and what a year it was! Still, we managed to watch, read, and listen to some great stuff this year. As is our custom, our panelists and listeners pick favorite Incomparable episodes and moments. This year, a panelist gets stuck inside a clip, and then Jason has to explain the Skeletor Clip Loop to a first-time Clip Show panelist who is not sure it really exists. It does—and 2021 is the year we fight back.
2020 favorites and clip show
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Erika Ensign, Dan Moren, David J. Loehr, Steve Lutz, Monty Ashley, Moisés Chiullán and Kelly Guimont
Favorite Episodes
Favorite Stuff
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Is this the way? We break down the second season of “The Mandalorian,” which sees our title character struggling with his own identity as a Mandalorian as well as coming to grips with the important task of protecting the child that he’s been caring for. What’s the difference between good and bad fan service? How many different spin-off shows were being set up this season? And we workshop a Baby Yoda sitcom.
"The Mandalorian" season 2
Jason Snell with Antony Johnston, Dan Moren, James Thomson, Helene Wecker and Kelly Guimont
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The Kilmas season reaches its peak with a fantasy film about a fellowship of people small and large who must journey far at the behest of a wizard, carrying something that may lead to the complete destruction of a kingdom. Except the thing isn’t a ring, it’s a baby. It’s 1988’s “Willow,” a charming movie with swords, sorcery, brownies (the bad kind), love potions, cartoonish snowballs, magic acorns, dangerous dragons, and even a magic trick or two. Merry Kilmas, one and all!
"Willow"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, John Siracusa and Annette Wierstra
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Kilmas rolls on with Val Kilmer’s first screen role, as the Elvis-like Nick Rivers—who is sent to East Germany and falls into a plot to destroy NATO submarines. But don’t sweat it, this is “Top Secret!”, from the same people who made “Airplane!” and “The Naked Gun,” so it’s really all about the jokes. So many jokes. We rave about some, and remain extremely perplexed about others. But you know who makes the whole thing work? Yep, Val Kilmer, that’s who.
"Top Secret!"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Lisa Schmeiser, Steve Lutz, Kelly Guimont and David J. Loehr
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Merry Kilmas! We begin our seasonal celebration of actor Val Kilmer with one of his most mysterious works, 1996’s “The Island of Dr. Moreau.” You’ll go in wanting to see Marlon Brando and David Thewlis, but you’ll exit talking about Goat Man and Dog Butler and why the last half hour of the film makes no sense at all. It’s a legendary disaster of a movie, and maybe that’s what Kilmas is all about!
Rocket Surgery - "Island of Doctor Moreau"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Jean MacDonald, Steve Lutz, Tony Sindelar and David J. Loehr
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Pick up a baseball bat and climb into the Woodie car that’s bigger on the inside, because it’s time to discuss HBO’s “Lovecraft Country.” This is a breathtakingly ambitious multi-genre anthology series with recurring characters. It’s about race and sex and society and love and hideous supernatural monsters. It’s set in the Jim Crow era, but also the past and the future and other planes of existence. And if you like the genres that we cover on The Incomparable, it’s worth your time.
"Lovecraft Country"
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Dan Moren, Kelly Guimont and Moisés Chiullán
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Happy Life Day! To celebrate this important occasion, The Incomparable hereby presents a commentary track, to be viewed alongside The Star Wars Holiday Special.
You’ll need to find the Holiday Special via the usual rebel channels. We watched the version with ads in it, so if you find a different version, pause the show during the ads.
Commentary track - "The Star Wars Holiday Special"
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Dan Moren, David J. Loehr, John Siracusa, Kelly Guimont, Steve Lutz and Chip Sudderth
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It’s silly draft time! In this episode we’re drafting TV series that only lasted a single season. No, miniseries and unaired pilots and shows that got a second season don’t count! Also, everyone gets “Firefly.”
Jason Snell with Moisés Chiullán, Monty Ashley, Philip Michaels, Glenn Fleishman, Dan Moren, Quinn Rose, James Thomson, Erika Ensign, David J. Loehr and Cicero Holmes
Bring Out Your Cancellations
Moises - Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace, Dino Riders, Nichols, Eerie Indiana, Swamp Thing, Journeyman, Star Cops, God the Devil and Bob, Brisco, Clone High
Monty - Profit, Clerks: The Animated Series, The Get Down, Automan, Whiz Kids, Misfits of Science, Push Nevada, Siberia, The Event, Casino, Freaks and Geeks
Phil - The Good Guys, The Grinder, LA to Vegas, Thieves, Now and Again, Mr. Sunshine, Running Wilde, Stumptown, Undeclared
Glenn - James at 15, Richie Brockleman Private Eye, Ben Stiller Show, Andy Barker PI, Quintuplets, Earth 2
Dan - Undercovers, Whisky Cavalier, Drive, The Inside, Grandfathered, Kitchen Confidential, Lone Star, Ultraviolet, Strange, The Deliveryman, Kings, Nowhere Man
Quinn - The Nine Lives of Chloe King, MBMBAM
James - Nathan Barley, Class, Daybreak, Limitless, The Emerald City, Incorporated, The Day to Day, Battlestar Galactica (original)
Erika - Firefly, Selfie
David - Tattinger’s, Ellery Queen, Enlisted, Tales of the Gold Monkey, Lazarus Man, Legend, M.A.N.T.I.S., Bakersfield P.D., Spy Groove, Flying Blind, Tucker’s Witch, Q.E.D.
Cicero - Powerless, Knights of Prosperity, Fastlane
Jason - The Tick (2001), Cupid, Freaks and Geeks
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Game over, man, game over! We return to the world of xenomorphs and Weyland-Yutani Corp. as we discuss 1986’s “Aliens,” James Cameron’s fascinating follow-up to the Ridley Scott original. We discuss space marines, alien-friendly elevators, white milky blood, and subsequent Alien movies that are very much uncanonical.
"Aliens"
Jason Snell with Antony Johnston, James Thomson, Sandra Wong, Kelly Guimont and Monty Ashley
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It’s one of the best things on television right now. It’s “What We Do in the Shadows,” a show that honors vampire lore while placing them in ridiculous mundane situations. A mockumentary sitcom featuring vampires might seem like an entry from TV Mad Libs, but this show (based on an indie feature film also by Jemaine Clement and Taika Waititi) uses its stellar cast and sharp writing to create a bizarre world of energy vampires, complaining familiars, new-age witches, and—the horror—local politics.
"What We Do in the Shadows"
Jason Snell with Sage Young, Monty Ashley, Lisa Schmeiser, Moisés Chiullán and Tony Sindelar
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Football is life! But even if you don’t care about sports, you should still watch “Ted Lasso” on Apple TV+. It’s a very funny show that’s also full of empathy and respect for its characters, which never goes for the cheap joke, and takes the tropes of every sports movie you’ve seen and uses them in ways you’re not expecting. And we’ve left plenty of space before the Spoiler Horn for our cross-Atlantic panel to explain why you should watch it and why we love this fusion of American and English sensibilities. We believe in Ted Lasso, and you will too.
"Ted Lasso"
Jason Snell with Myke Hurley, James Thomson, Dan Moren, Kelly Guimont, Aleen Simms and Glenn Fleishman
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Duck into the prone position and aim your bow, because it’s time for us to talk about “The Last of Us Part II”, the sequel to a beloved apocalyptic video game. We follow the characters on their pursuit of cross-country revenge, filled with flashbacks and the infected. But on this journey, as we trade our adrenaline for tears, we learn that we were the last of us all along.
"The Last Of Us Part II"
Tiff Arment with John Siracusa and Brian Hamilton
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It’s time to play the music
It’s time to light the lights
It’s time to draft the Muppets
On the Incomparable tonight
Muppet Draft
Jason Snell with David J. Loehr, Kelly Guimont, Moisés Chiullán, Philip Michaels, Monty Ashley, Nathan Alderman, Shelly Brisbin and Quinn Rose
BOYFlannel
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Once more unto the breach, dear friends! This episode kicks off a new recurring feature, Shakespeare Club. Our first subject is “Henry V.” We watch Kenneth Branagh’s 1989 film and discuss Shakespeare’s Expanded Henry Universe, tennis balls, d’elbow, and what a jerk young Harry actually is.
"Henry V"
Jason Snell with David J. Loehr, Philip Michaels, Scott McNulty and Moisés Chiullán
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Our Old Movie Club takes on two Billy Wilder comedies from 1939 and 1959, to see if they still hold up 81 and 61 years later. Erika Ensign’s selection is “Midnight,” starring Claudette Colbert and Don Ameche, and Philip Michaels counters with “Some Like It Hot,” starring Jack Lemmon, Tony Curtis, and Marilyn Monroe. Both films are about people pretending to be something they aren’t. And then the fun begins… hopefully!
"Midnight" (1939) and "Some Like It Hot" (1959)
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Philip Michaels, Tiff Arment and Steve Lutz
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Launch the Photon Torpedoes! In this episode we’re drafting mostly obscure characters from all of Star Trek lore, and creating our own TV series pitches with the results. If you think our drafts have gone off the rails before, you haven’t seen anything yet!
Star Trek character draft
Jason Snell with Jim Metzendorf, David J. Loehr, Moisés Chiullán, Cicero Holmes, Jean MacDonald, Brianna Wu and Scott McNulty
Round One
Round Two
Round Three
Round Four
Show Pitches / Beam Up Your Dead, Jim
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Grab a shotgun, climb on a stolen motorcycle, and get out your 90s slang phrasebook, because it’s time to watch one of the definitive summer blockbusters, “Terminator 2: Judgment Day.” We marvel at Arnold Schwarzenegger’s perfectly robotic demeanor, Robert Patrick’s steely stare and creepy walk, and Linda Hamilton’s—well, pretty much everything. Hasta la vista, baby.
"Terminator 2: Judgment Day"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Annette Wierstra, Brian Hamilton and Kelly Guimont
Edited by Brian Hamilton.
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Hop a flight piloted by a Dodo and leave behind the world you know! Animal Crossing: New Horizons is the perfect escape. Journey to a deserted island to do digital equivalents of chores you’re avoiding doing in the real world! One of the most subjective experiences in all of gaming turned out to be just what millions of us needed this summer. Guest host Moisés Chiullán and his six panelists are proof that “the friends you make along the way” really is the whole point after all. Well, that and draft-format podcasts.
"Animal Crossing: New Horizons"
Moisés Chiullán with Brian Hamilton, Tiff Arment, Kathy Campbell, James Thomson, Allison Truj and Kelly Guimont
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Grab a wad of counterfeit cash and get ready to swim up a waterfall! Our Miyazaki Club goes back to the beginning, to the great animation director’s first feature, “The Castle of Cagliostro.” It’s a franchise work-for-hire being executed by a budding genius, which is a fascinating combination. The film mixes cartoony action and heist-movie tropes with clouds and landscapes and flying machines that come straight from Miyazaki’s brain.
"Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Monty Ashley, Aleen Simms, Tony Sindelar and Steve Lutz
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Ten years ago today, The Incomparable began. To celebrate a decade of whatever this is, Jason gathered a dozen of the podcast’s top panelists for a round of toasts.
Our tenth anniversary!
Jason Snell with Dan Moren, David J. Loehr, John Siracusa, Steve Lutz, Scott McNulty, Erika Ensign, Monty Ashley, Glenn Fleishman, Serenity Caldwell, Moisés Chiullán, Tony Sindelar, Aleen Simms and Chip Sudderth
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Inflate your pool floaties, prepare a wedding speech, and whatever you do, don’t go in the glowing red cave, because we’re discussing the delightful film “Palm Springs,” starring Andy Samberg, Cristin Milioti, and J.K. Simmons, and currently available (to Americans, anyway) on Hulu. It’s the kind of movie we’ve seen before, but with so many interesting twists on the concept that it always feels fresh. In addition to pointing out what makes the movie work, we’ve got a bunch of nerdy questions about its premise, the multiverse, where you can find C4 and a policeman’s uniform on short notice, and the ultimate disposition of one very strange goat.
"Palm Springs"
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Sage Young, Shelly Brisbin and James Thomson
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Want to pick up a comic book or graphic novel and don’t know where to start? Our panel has a bunch of very different ideas for you to choose from! We’ve made a list of nearly two dozen for you to try—all available in collections, all ready to pick up without knowing anything about history or backstory or continuity or anything.
Comic book reading list
Jason Snell with Chip Sudderth, David J. Loehr, Lisa Schmeiser, John McCoy and Nathan Alderman
Here’s the list:
Episode edited by Steven Schapansky.
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It’s our annual read of the annual science fiction and fantasy shortlist, the Hugo Awards nominees! Our panelists catch up on the three books that weren’t covered in our Nebula Awards episode, and then Jason and Erika spend a little time on the short fiction nominees. And the raging debate on whether a planet is space or not continues!
2020 Hugo Award nominees
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty and Dan Moren
Our panel’s final consensus ranking:
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Alex Garland has followed up his film “Ex Machina” with another philosophical drama about technology, the miniseries “Devs.” It’s unique, beautiful, thought provoking, and doesn’t remotely stick the landing. We spend a lengthy pre-Spoiler Horn slot discussing why you might want to watch it (and why you might not), and then we break down the strengths and weaknesses of the show overall and the final episode in particular.
"Devs"
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Brian Hamilton, James Thomson and Glenn Fleishman
Edited by Brian Hamilton.
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It’s time to take a trip back to Vietnam and discuss Spike Lee’s new film, “Da 5 Bloods”! We discuss Netflix’s decision to release the movie right now, the plot’s many twists and turns, and all of the ways Spike Lee incorporates references to other genres and directors. Plus, heaps and heaps of praise for the cast.
"Da 5 Bloods"
Cicero Holmes with Philip Michaels, Brian Hamilton, Moisés Chiullán and Shareef Jackson
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They should have sent a poet, but instead we sent ourselves to celebrate the 23rd (it’s a prime number, as any alien would know) anniversary of the Robert Zemeckis film “Contact”, starring Jodie Foster in an adaptation of the novel by Carl Sagan. How do we reconcile the film’s debate about science and religion? Is this really two movies in one? How showy are the film’s set pieces and special effects? We’re ok to go—otherwise this podcast would be an awful waste of space.
"Contact"
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Jean MacDonald, Glenn Fleishman and David J. Loehr
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Our walkthrough of “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” continues with season 5, in which Buffy inherits a sister with retcon powers, the gang loses someone close to them, and everyone realizes it’s time to grow up. Also, the Big Bad thinks she’s prettier than Buffy, but when you spend all that time around a bunch of gnomish lackeys, your aesthetic sense is bound to get a bit skewed.
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer" season 5
Jason Snell with Aleen Simms, Jean MacDonald, Quinn Rose, Steve Lutz and Mattie Cox
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It’s not 🧠🧑ðŸ»â€ðŸ”¬âš›ï¸, it’s 🚀🧑ðŸ»â€âš•ï¸ðŸ”ª. Emojipedia’s own Jeremy Burge joins our crew to watch the heck out of 2017’s “The Emoji Movie,” a very 😑 movie in which Patrick Stewart plays 💩 and we’re told that 🆠belongs in the Loser Lounge.
Rocket Surgery: "The Emoji Movie"
Jason Snell with Jeremy Burge, Glenn Fleishman, Kathy Campbell, Steve Lutz and Monty Ashley
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Put on your Sunday clothes and get ready to patrol the trash heap that is Earth, because it’s time to discuss Pixar’s “Wall-E.” We cover the nearly dialogueless first act, whether the broader comedy on the B&L ship Axiom works, Fred Willard (RIP), and the greatness of Ben Burtt. Watch out for rogue robots!
"Wall-E"
Jason Snell with Jean MacDonald, Kelly Guimont, Moisés Chiullán and Steve Lutz
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We break down the third season of HBO’s “Westworld”, a show that we may appreciate more for the big swings that it takes rather than the number of times it actually connects. This just-finished season was messy, with one clear through-line and a bunch of other characters who are not served particularly well. We break down the character arcs for Dolores, Bernard, Dolores, Maeve, Dolores, Serac, and Dolores. There’s also praise for Marshawn Lynch (and his shirt), for the show’s continued excellent use of music, and we ponder who the emotional center of the show might actually be.
"Westworld" Season 3
Jason Snell with Cicero Holmes, Nathan Alderman, Kelly Guimont and Lisa Melton
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Old Movie Club takes on two distinctly different Raymond Chandler adaptations: 1946’s “The Big Sleep” (with Humphrey Bogart as Philip Marlowe) and 1973’s “The Long Goodbye” (with Elliott Gould as Marlowe). Both of them have twisty plots that unravel, leaving dead bodies behind. Women throw themselves at Bogie! Elliott Gould needs to buy cat food! Film Boir will never be the same.
"The Big Sleep" and "The Long Goodbye"
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Shelly Brisbin, Monty Ashley and Dr. Drang
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We’ve completed our read of this year’s six Nebula Award nominees for best science fiction/fantasy novel of the year, and have returned with our opinions! And this year was a pretty good one, with very few of our readers experiencing the pain of bad books. From space opera to portal fantasy to Mexican mythology, there are almost certainly books on this list that will strike your fancy. Also, we debate the perennial question: Are planets in space?
2020 Nebula Award novels
Jason Snell with Erika Ensign, Aleen Simms, Scott McNulty and Dan Moren
Our panel’s final consensus ranking:
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Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale
A tale of a fateful show
We drafted yet more TV themes
And the theme song list did grow
The guest list was a lengthy one
The pickers came prepared
If not for the courage of our editor
The listeners would be scared
So join us on your podcast app
You’ll listen till you’re full
It’s favorite TV theme songs
Here on The Incomparable
TV Theme Draft II
Jason Snell with Philip Michaels, Lizbeth Myles, Steven Schapansky, James Thomson, Moisés Chiullán, Dan Moren, Monty Ashley and Jean MacDonald
Edited by Steven Schapansky.
Bring Out Your Dead
Phil - The Fugitive, Wide World of Sports, Top Cat, Phineas & Ferb
Liz - UFO, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, Man from UNCLE, Thunderbirds, The Avengers, Elementary, Star Trek Discovery, She-Ra (both of them), The Family Ness, Crystal Maze, Grandstand
Steven - He-Man/Remington Steele, Miami Vice, The Equalizer, Sandbaggers, All Creatures Great and Small, Robin of Sherwood, The Tripods, Space: 1999, Kids in the Hall, The Littlest Hobo.
James - Blake’s 7, Thunderbirds, Danger Mouse, Blackadder, Red Dwarf, Blockbusters, Grange Hill, Rent-a-Ghost, The Trapdoor, Number 73, Taggart, last minute and a half of “The Chain” - Formula One Racing.
Moises - Bananaman, Maude, Good Times, Andy Griffith, Green Acres, Laverne & Shirley, The Simpsons, Boston Legal, A Different World, Melrose Place, Better Call Saul, Facts of Life, Colbert Report, Law & Order: Criminal Intent.
Dan - M.A.S.K., Exo-Squad, Carmen Sandiego, NBC Nightly News, Get Smart, Dragnet, TNG, DS9, Buffy, Due South, Journeyman, Flight of the Conchords, Justified, Endeavour, Downton Abbey, You’re the Worst, Great British Bake-Off, Halt and Catch Fire.
Monty - Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Bob’s Burgers, Drew Carey Show (season 4), Kroll Show, King of the Hill, Gravity Falls, True Blood, Speed Racer, Underdog, Josie and the Pussycats, Dastardly & Muttley, Hong Kong Fooey, Daria, Pokemon season 1.
Jean - Mr. Ed, Patty Duke, Taxi
Jason - Star Trek TNG, Twin Peaks, X-Files, House
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Dan Moren joins Jason to discuss what went into writing his new novel, “The Aleph Extraction.” No spoilers for the story, but we do discuss how he builds characters, the optimal length of a novel, how writing a novel under contract is different from having years to write one without a publisher, and why Jason has access to the Galactic Cold War wiki.
"The Aleph Extraction"
Jason Snell with Dan Moren
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This podcast is like a donut hiding inside the hole of another donut. That’s because we’re talking “Knives Out,” Rian Johnson’s twisty and clever murder mystery set in the family of a very rich and very awful family. We discuss the movie’s storytelling choices, debate whether it plays fair with all its flashbacks, ponder which of the family members is the least awful, and laugh about all the jokes. (And yes, if you listen to this episode before watching the movie, you’re a monster.)
"Knives Out"
Jason Snell with Brian Hamilton, Sage Young, Helene Wecker and Dan Moren
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Put on your best shaggy flannel, because it’s time to go back to the ’90s for another album draft! In this episode Jason is joined by a decade’s worth of panelists to choose our favorite music albums from the 1990s. And yet, somehow, some of our panelists were born in that very decade! Isn’t it ironic?
1990s album draft
Jason Snell with Antony Johnston, Brian Hamilton, Erika Ensign, James Thomson, Monty Ashley, Quinn Rose, Sarah Gardner, Shelly Brisbin, Steve Lutz and Tiff Arment
Edited by Brian Hamilton.
Our Picks
Bring Out Your Dead
Brian
Quinn
Sarah
James
Erika
Tiff
Shelly
Antony
Steve
Monty
Jason
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The final season of SyFy’s “The Magicians” is in the books, and we’re here to wrap it up, as well as share some overall thoughts on the series as the whole. But before we do that, we spend 17 minutes convincing you that it’s a show that’s absolutely worth watching.
"The Magicians" season 5
Jason Snell with Glenn Fleishman, Annette Wierstra, Moisés Chiullán and James Thomson
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Put on a white vest, climb in your Corvette, and whatever you do, don’t stir the cryo tanks! It’s the 50th anniversary of Apollo 13 and the 25th anniversary of “Apollo 13,” so we’re here to discuss Ron Howard’s film, starring Tom Hanks, Ed Harris and an enormous collection of character actors. The real-life story of Apollo 13 is so unlikely that if they made it into a movie, you’d never believe it—but in 1995 they did, and you will.
"Apollo 13"
Jason Snell with Stephen Hackett, Dr. Drang, Dan Moren and Kathy Campbell
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Engage! Season one of “Star Trek: Picard” is in the books, and so now it’s time to break it all down. Is Data’s death the overriding theme of the season? Does Picard’s final destination live up to the set-up? How did Hugh and Seven fare? Were the other visits from past cast members cheesy or good? How cool are Romulan warrior nuns? Who’s your favorite synth? And can storytelling ever be described as “lumpy?”
"Star Trek: Picard" season 1
Jason Snell with James Thomson, Jean MacDonald, Cicero Holmes, Anže Tomić and Erika Ensign
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By the end of this episode we will sell several copies of “The Three E.P.s” by The Beta Band. It’s time to put on that horrible Cosby sweater and rearrange your record collection autobiographically. On the 20th anniversary of its release, we’re here to discuss one of our All-Time Top 5 movies featuring Lisa Bonet coming alive like Frampton, “High Fidelity.” Based on Nick Hornby’s novel, this film stars John Cusack as a bad boyfriend with a glimmer of hope at finding a clue, features a career-making performance from Jack Black as a gatekeeper fan with a surprising singing voice, and still resonates with us after two decades.
"High Fidelity" (2000)
Jason Snell with Kelly Guimont, Andy Ihnatko and Moisés Chiullán
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The Skywalker Saga is over—so what’s next for “Star Wars”? This week we’re suggesting potential directions for the franchise to go, on both the big and small screens. What kinds of movies should come next? Is Disney+ a development platform or the next big thing? Our team of franchise fans has no fiduciary responsibility and plenty of ideas!
Where does "Star Wars" go from here?
Jason Snell with John Siracusa, Dan Moren, Kelly Guimont and Monty Ashley
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This week we review the just-completed season of “Doctor Who.” It’s the second year for showrunner Chris Chibnall and star Jodie Whittaker, and this one felt like a real return to form after a tentative set of episodes in 2018. What do we make of the show’s canon-altering revelations? Which episodes were good and which ones were stinkers? How do you make the Cybermen interesting? How’s the fam holding up? Curl up in a haunted house—or just go sit on a lounge chair for three hours—and listen to this episode, followed by the Master’s TED Talk.
"Doctor Who" series 12 wrap-up
Jason Snell with Annette Wierstra, Steven Schapansky, Jean MacDonald and Helene Wecker
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