Pioneers were prevalent in the 50s and 60s. Guys that built up their chops to be able to play at the spur of the moment in any setting with any players. This pioneer mentality was helped by venues, multiple venues in every major city so accessibility was not a problem. The pioneers of music were unafraid of pursuing odd rhythms and combining instruments that wouldn't necessarily be commonplace in a square setting. My guest was one such pioneer, with Charles Lloyd they became the first American Jazz outfit to perform in the Soviet Union, he was a favorite of Joe Henderson in a group that featured the likes of Woody Shaw, George Cables and Lenny White. He was also one of the founding members of the eclectic group the fourth way with Mike Nock, Michael White and legendary Bay Area drummer Eddie Marshall. He has been an educator at the Berkelee School of music and LIU and is a continual force in the field of music. Ron McClure it's a pleasure to welcome you to the Jake Feinberg Show.