Podd: The Kids or Childfree Podcast

61. Keltie Maguire on Key Coaching Takeaways During Season 4

23 april 2025 | 35 min

60. Gabrielle Salomone on Navigating a Fear of Childbirth

16 april 2025 | 64 min

In this conversation, Keltie speaks with Gabrielle Salamone, a licensed clinical social worker specializing in OCD and anxiety. The two of them discuss...

Tokophobia, a severe fear of childbirth, and its implications on women's mental health and parenting decisions.
The importance of addressing fears surrounding childbirth, and therapeutic approaches to overcoming these fears.
The importance of CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) and ERP (exposure response prevention) techniques and how "worry stories" can help alleviate and manage anxiety.
Gabrielle's personal journey with being on the fence, and navigating infertility.

As mentioned in the show: Find Gabrielle — and US-based therapy — online at therapyforwomencenter.com. Gabrielle's Instagram is @livewellwithgabrielle. About Gabrielle: Gabrielle Salomone, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, who is from outside of Philadelphia PA. She received her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and then a few years later her Masters in Social Work, both from Widener University. She currently is the clinical director at Therapy for Women Center which is based in Philadelphia. The practice has 3 offices in the Philadelphia area, one opening soon in New Jersey and they have therapists available virtually in 42 states including DC! Besides being a part of the day-to-day running of the group practice Gabrielle is also a therapist and continues to work with clients. Gabrielle has experience working in just about every area of mental health treatment, at every level of treatment, and with clients across all ages. She specializes in working with clients struggling with life transitions, eating disorders, anxiety, and OCD. Gabrielle has received training through working at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, The Renfrew Center and Roger's Behavioral Health. As a therapist, Gabrielle believes that therapy is not one size fits all, which is why she uses a person-centered approach. She practices from the theoretical orientation of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, focusing on how thoughts and feelings impact our behaviors and incorporating exposure therapy to change behaviors and working with clients on incorporating back into one’s life enjoyable activities, routines and value-based goals that have decreased or are being avoided due to the eating disorder/anxiety/OCD. Gabrielle provides a safe and comfortable atmosphere and she believes in building trusting therapeutic relationships with all her clients. __ Join one of our April Support Series sessions: Kids or Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series Confidently Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

59. Dear Former Fence-Sitter #1 with Amanda E. White, LPC

9 april 2025 | 58 min

Your questions, answered! In this very first episode of my new Dear Former Fence-Sitter series, I sit down with former guest — mom, therapist, and former fence-sitter, Amanda E. White — to answer questions that include...

How do I decide if I don't feel strongly about having kids one way or the other?
If I'm scared of pregnancy and childbirth, what advice do you have for me?
I'm a step-mom and struggling to figure out if I want kids of my own — what to do?
How do I navigate my relationships with my mom friends as a childfree woman?
What was beneficial in preparing yourself for parenthood, and that made you realize you could do it?

As mentioned in the show: Listen to my original conversation with Amanda, where she shares her personal Kids or Childfree journey, here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ir3CeSSRRLLh2PbVwQn1h Tune into my Between Friends conversation with Lauren Grant, here: www.kidsorchildfree.com/between-friends-event Find Amanda on Instagram: instagram.com/therapyforwomen Read Amanda's Fence Sitter Substack: amandaewhite.substack.com Listen to Amanda's Nuance Needed Podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/show/73G84FVO6k5lIAaRWhzlUi?si=39f1a6ffbd444408 Learning about Amanda's therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center: www.therapyforwomencenter.com About Amanda: Amanda E. White is a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular Instagram account @therapyforwomen. She writes a substack called Fence Sitter. She is the author of the book “Not Drinking Tonight” and its corresponding workbook. She is the founder of the group therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center, based in Philadelphia serving clients across the country. She has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes, Washington Post, Shape, Women’s Health Magazine, and more. To learn more visit amandaewhite.com __ Get the details and attend one of our Kids or Childfree workshops here: www.kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

58. Sina Scheithauer on Answering the Kid Question in Germany and Beyond

2 april 2025 | 59 min

57. Carly Church on The First Few Months of Motherhood

26 mars 2025 | 72 min

In this episode, Keltie Maguire speaks with one of her long-time friends, Carly Church, about life as a new mom, and how Carly made her decision to have a child.

Keltie and Carly chat about:

Carly's journey from single to meeting her partner, Mike; the experience of becoming a step-mom to Mike's two daughters — and how this relationship influenced Carly's own Kids or Childfree choice; and Carly's decision to become a mom.
Carly's decision to freeze her eggs in her mid-30s — and why she's so happy she did.
Her experiences as a step-parent and a first-time mom, including the importance of partner support, and the challenges of navigating relationships with stepkids.
How Carly went from ambivalent about motherhood, to deciding to have a child — including the natural unfolding of her family life.
The joys and challenges of motherhood and the impact on her identity and independence, thus far in her journey.

About Carly: Carly Church has a habit of choosing to swim against the tide. Trained as a Professional Engineer and then moving on to work across the globe in the mining industry she has often found herself blazing a trail for women in the industry. A love for travel, both recreational and as part of long-term rotations on mining projects from Botswana to the rather more chilly, Northern Ontario, defined Carly’s life in her 20s and 30s. Now a mother to James (0) and step-mother to Martha (11) and Edith (9), Carly is navigating how to balance the needs of her new family with the professional and personal pursuits which have always driven her. As mentioned in the show: Find Carly on Instagram: @cjcharlys __ Join the next round of our Kids or Childfree Group Program: www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

56. Ruth Chang on How to Make Hard Choices

19 mars 2025 | 51 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire and philosopher, Ruth Chang, explore the complexities of hard choices, and in particular, the decision to have kids or remain childfree. They discuss...

The idea of drifting into decisions — and why it's a valid decision tactic.
That hard choices aren't about finding the right answer, but about understanding one's values and making a commitment to a chosen path.
The nature of commitment and decision-making, and that commitment is not merely a rational choice based on pros and cons but an active agency that transforms our values and perspectives.
Why commitment involves understanding who you can become, not just who you want to be. Plus, the importance of self-reflection in understanding who we can commit to becoming.
The necessity of embracing uncertainty in the decision-making process.

...and lots more!

About Ruth: Ruth Chang holds the Chair of Jurisprudence at the University of Oxford. Her expertise concerns philosophical questions relating to the nature of value, value conflict, decision-making, rationality, love, and human agency. She has shared her research in public venues including radio, television, and newspaper outlets such as National Public Radio, the BBC, National Geographic, and The New York Times. The institutions she lectured at or consulted for include Google, the CIA, the World Bank, the US Navy, the Bhutan government, Big Pharma, and many businesses and financial institutions. Her TED talk on hard choices has over nine million views. She is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. As mentioned in the show: Find Ruth online at ruthchang.net. Watch Ruth's TedTalk on hard choices: www.ted.com/talks/ruth_chang_how_to_make_hard_choices __ Join one of our upcoming Support Series sessions: Kids or Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series Confidently Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

55. Tyler Pentland on Becoming a Father Through Surrogacy

12 mars 2025 | 71 min

54. Florence Wlodarski on Pursuing Parenthood When You're Still on the Fence

5 mars 2025 | 55 min

In this episode, Keltie Maguire speaks with Florence Wlodarski about Florence's Kids or Childfree journey — from ambivalence to IVF to embracing life without kids — plus, the inspiration behind PARALLEL, the social club Florence recently co-founded for those without kids.

Keltie and Florence discuss:

The societal expectations regarding motherhood and the pressures Florence faced to become a mom.
Florence's decision to pursue IVF and the emotional complexities involved in that process.
The experience of trying for a child, while still being on the fence about having one.
Florence's reflections on identity and career that arose from her experiences.
How Florence ultimately found peace and freedom in the decision not to have kids.
The importance of community and connection, and how Florence and her husband co-founded Parallel Social Club, to support others in similar situations.

About Florence: Florence Chung Wlodarski is the Co-Founder of PARALLEL, a new social club and community based out of Los Angeles, designed for those doing life without kids. In her professional life, she spent more than 20 years building community engagement strategies and partnerships between Fortune 500 corporations, nonprofit organizations and government agencies (with a speciality working with law enforcement) in the U.S. Now she’s taking her experience and applying them to building a community for DINKs and SINKs. As mentioned in the show: Find Florence and Parallel Social Club online at parallelsocialclub.com. On Instagram: @parallelsocialclub __ Join the next round of our Kids or Childfree Group Program: www.kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

53. Sophia Seymour on Freezing Your Eggs When You're on the Fence

26 februari 2025 | 56 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire interviews filmmaker Sophia Seymour about her personal journey with egg freezing, and her documentary, Harvest, which Sophia created about the experience. You'll hear them discuss:

The emotional and physical aspects of the egg-freezing process, and the decision-making involved.
The societal pressures surrounding motherhood and fertility.
Sophia's advice for anyone considering freezing their eggs.
Why she wouldn't recommend egg-freezing as a means of getting clarity on the Kids or Childfree choice, despite having done so herself.
Insights from her discussions with other women about the decision to have or not have kids.

About Sophia: Sophia Seymour is a British award-winning writer/director living between London and Naples and writes regularly for The Guardian, Condè Nast and Time Out. She has a background in music management and highlights of her career so far include co-directing/producing Teranga - Life in the Waiting Room (Guardian Documentaries and BBC Africa Eye), appearing alongside Richard E Grant for his BBC4 Write Around the World series and working with Paolo Sorrentino for his Netflix documentary Through the Eyes of Sorrentino. She has worked as a producer on documentaries for the Guardian, Netflix, BBC2, BBC4 and graduated with a masters from The National Film and Television school in 2024. She is currently developing a slate of fiction and non-fiction films. As mentioned in the show: You can find Sophia online at: www.sophiaseymour.com Instagram: @sophia_seymour_says_ X: @SophiaSeymour2 Facebook: facebook.com/sophia.seymour Watch Sophia's film, Harvest, online at The Guardian. __ Join the March session of my Confidently Childfree Coaching Intensive: kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

52. Dr. Laura Buchinger on Life Satisfaction and The Kids or Childfree Choice

19 februari 2025 | 60 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire speaks with lifespan psychologist and post-doctoral researcher, Dr. Laura Buchinger, about her latest research on how parents versus childfree people fare in terms of well-being, mental health, and overall life satisfaction. Hear them discuss:

What existing research tells us about how parents and non-parents fare at different stages of life and across various aspects of well-being.
The gender differences in experiences of loneliness and social connections.
Whether or not childfree people are lonelier than parents.
How societal expectations about parenthood influence life decisions and experiences.
How cultural perspectives that shape attitudes toward having children, and the shifting views of younger generations regarding the childfree choice.

About Laura: Laura Buchinger is a lifespan psychologist exploring how personality, motivation, health, and well-being evolve throughout life. After earning an undergraduate degree from Chemnitz University of Technology in 2013, she completed a master’s degree in Clinical Psychology at Freie Universität Berlin in 2016. Laura began her career as an organizational psychologist and consultant, focusing on occupational health and safety, before transitioning back to academia just before the pandemic. In 2023, she earned a PhD in Psychology from Freie Universität Berlin with a thesis titled "Life Goals Across Adulthood and Old Age: Associations With Personality and Well-Being." Laura is now a post-doctoral researcher in developmental psychology at Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin. Her research focuses on interindividual differences in personality traits, life goals, and values, and their effects on health and well-being across the lifespan As mentioned in the show: Find Laura on... Blue Sky at: @lbuchinger.bsky.social LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-buchinger-b06359161/ You can connect with her via email at: [email protected] The studies mentioned in our conversation can be found below: Buchinger, L., Richter, D., & Heckhausen, J. (2022). The Development of Life Goals Across the Adult Life Span. The Journals of Gerontology: Series B, 77(5), 905–915. https://doi.org/10.1093/geronb/gbab154

Buchinger, L., Wahring, I. V., Ram, N., Hoppmann, C., Heckhausen, J., & Gerstorf, D. (2024). Kids or no Kids? Life Goals in one’s 20s Predict Midlife Trajectories of Well-Being. Psychology and Aging, 39(8), 897–914. https://doi.org/10.1037/pag0000862 Bauer, G., Brandt, M. & Kneip, T. The Role of Parenthood for Life Satisfaction of Older Women and Men in Europe. J Happiness Stud 24, 275–307 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10902-022-00600-8

Graham, M. (2015). Is being childless detrimental to a woman's health and well-being across her life course?. Women's health issues, 25(2), 176-184. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.whi.2014.12.002

Penning, M. J., Wu, Z., & Hou, F. (2024). Childlessness and social and emotional loneliness in middle and later life. Ageing & Society, 44(7), 1551-1578. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0144686X22000824

Krämer, M. D., Van Scheppingen, M. A., Chopik, W. J., & Richter, D. (2023). The transition to grandparenthood: No consistent evidence for change in the Big Five personality traits and life satisfaction. European Journal of Personality, 37(5), 560–586. https://doi.org/10.1177/08902070221118443

Stahnke, B., Cooley, M. E., & Blackstone, A. (2023). A Systematic Review of Life Satisfaction Experiences Among Childfree Adults. The Family Journal, 31(1), 60–68. https://doi.org/10.1177/10664807221104795 __ Check out our brand-new Confident Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

51. Keltie Maguire on The Other Side of a Decision

11 februari 2025 | 29 min

50. Vasavi Kumar on Finding Your Authentic Voice

5 februari 2025 | 51 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire speaks with therapist, author, and podcast host, Vasavi Kumar. You'll hear about:

Vasavi's choice to be childfree, and why she says it's the best decision she's ever made.
How to navigate the external influences that are keeping you stuck in your Kids or Childfree choice.
How you can tap into and access your authentic voice — and what it's telling you about whether or not you want kids.
Why you can't force yourself to want something you don't want.
The impact of childhood experiences on adult choices, including how generational trauma can shape the decision to have or not have kids.
The importance of self-reflection through practices like mirror work and "saying it out loud", plus, the need for self-compassion in decision-making.
How mental health challenges — including Vasavi's bipolar diagnosis — can significantly influence the Kids or Childfree choice.
Living a fulfilling and meaningful life without children.

As mentioned on the show Find Vasavi online at vasavikumar.com Follow her online at @mynameisvasavi Purchase Vasavi's book, Say It Out Loud, here: https://vasavikumar.com/orderthebook Get Vasavi's free Mirror Work Prompts here: https://vasavi.myflodesk.com/mirror Book an intro call with Vasavi at: https://calendly.com/vasavi/chat-with-vasavi About Vasavi Vasavi Kumar is a therapist, author, and podcast host passionate about empowering individuals to embrace their authentic selves. Living with Bipolar Disorder, Vasavi brings a unique perspective to conversations around mental health, self-talk, and personal growth. As the author of Say It Out Loud and host of the SAY IT OUT LOUD podcast, she inspires audiences to break free from societal expectations and live in alignment with their truth. Through coaching, writing, and speaking, Vasavi helps people build confidence, navigate life’s complexities, and create meaningful change. __ Check out our brand-new Kids or Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

49. Dr. Hayley Evers-King on Saying Yes to Parenthood in the Face of Uncertainty

29 januari 2025 | 54 min

In this conversation, Keltie chats with Dr. Hayley Evers-King, a marine scientist and mom of one, about her journey from indecision about parenthood — to ultimately embracing the experience. Hayley and Keltie discuss:

Hayley's initial reluctance to have children, and the various factors that influenced her decision-making process.
The conversations she had with her husband about their future, and how these ultimately led to a "yes" decision.
How Hayley navigated concerns about how her career would fit with motherhood, and the conversations that helped her explore these anxieties.
The emotional and mental health aspects of IVF and the transition to motherhood.
What having a child has changed – and what it hasn't – and why Hayey's fulfillment in life comes from various sources, and not just parenthood.
The flexibility of life after having children, and the significance of having a supportive partner.

As mentioned on the show Connect with Hayley on Instagram at instagram.com/hayleyeversking/ About Hayley Hayley is a marine scientist, who uses satellites to observe our oceans from space. She currently works at an international organisation that operates weather and environmental satellites, supporting users around the world to work with this data for the benefit of people and planet. She is currently based in Germany, having lived and worked in the UK and South Africa, as well as with colleagues all over the world. She is a keen science communicator, educator, traveller, collector of wine, and an aspiring chef. After a diagnosis of unexplained infertility, she is raising a 3 year old son with her husband with whom she has shared an almost identical career path for the last 15 years. __ Check out our brand-new Kids or Childfree Support Series: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-support-series Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

48. Monica Cardenas, PhD on Maternal Ambivalence and Apathy

15 januari 2025 | 67 min

In this conversation, Keltie speaks with writer Monica Cardenas, who shares her journey of being childfree by choice, and her research about maternal ambivalence and apathy. Hear them discuss...

The cultural and societal pressures surrounding motherhood.
The representation of childfree women — and those who are ambivalent or apathetic about motherhood — in literature and media.
Monica's Substack 'Bad Mothers,' which challenges societal judgments about motherhood and emphasizes the importance of recognizing women's choices without stigma.
Literary examples that challenge traditional narratives around a woman's role as mother, and that highlight the importance of normalizing diverse experiences.
The personal implications of these societal norms, including the judgments faced by women who choose not to have children and the impact of family dynamics on these decisions.
The natural ambivalence many feel towards parenthood and the importance of a supportive community that respects individual choices.
Perspectives on the freedom that comes with being childfree and advice for those uncertain about having kids.

As mentioned in the show Find Monica online at www.monicacardenas.com Subscribe to Monica's Substack, Bad Mothers, at a special discounted rate, exclusive to Kids or Childfree Podcast listeners: https://monicacardenas.substack.com/kocf Find Monica on Instagram at instagram.com/monica_is_reading. About Monica Monica Cardenas holds an MA and PhD in Creative Writing from Royal Holloway, University of London. Her research on motherhood in the 20th-century novel and the evolution of reproductive rights in the U.S. is central to her novel-in-progress The Mother Law, which was longlisted for the Lucy Cavendish College Fiction Prize and runner-up in the Borough Press open submission competition. Her work has been published in The Audacity, Literary Hub, Litro, Catatonic Daughters and Sad Girls Club Lit. She is chair of the Democrats Abroad UK Women’s Caucus, and author of the Bad Mothers newsletter. Originally from Washington, D.C., she now resides in the Chiltern Hills just outside London. __ Join our upcoming Kids or Childfree Group Program: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

47. Brooke Froelich Murray on Outdoor Adventure with Kids

8 januari 2025 | 51 min

The Kids or Childfree Podcast is back with a brand-new season, and we're kicking it off with a conversation with Brooke Froelich Murray — mom, outdoor adventurer, and founder of the outdoor community, WildKind. Hear Keltie and Brooke discuss:

Brooke's initial reluctance to have kids, including how her Mormon upbringing influenced her feelings about motherhood
What shifted for Brooke that led her to change her feelings about kids, and how she navigated divorce and solo motherhood with a newborn
The importance of self-care and prioritizing one's own needs as a mom – plus how to balance this with parenting responsibilities
Personal identity outside of motherhood, and how Brooke navigated her decision to have kids as someone who felt she'd so recently discovered her passions in life
Cultivating a supportive and like-minded community when raising children
How critical clear communication with your partner is when raising kids – and what this looks like in practice
What outdoor adventures with children look like, and the ways they're both more challenging — and fulfilling — than those without kids.
Insights from Brooke's project, WildKind, which aims to connect moms through outdoor activities

As mentioned in the show: Find out more about Brooke at brookefroelich.com Find Brooke on Instagram at instagram.com/brooke.froelich/ Interested in checking out an upcoming WildKind adventure in Colorado? Get the details at wildkindinc.com

About Brooke: Brooke raises her three little adventure buddies in CO. Whether she's wrangling them on skis, chasing them on mountain bikes, changing diapers on top of a mountain (true story), or lazily wading through a creek looking for tadpoles alongside them, Brooke believes she shows up as the best version of herself for her kids when she's outside. With the goal of building community and supporting other mothers, Brooke co-founded WildKind: a community for mothers looking to level up their outdoor adventure. Brooke wholeheartedly believes that adventure is better when shared, and loves to invite others to join along. __ Join our upcoming Kids or Childfree Group Program: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree

46. Keltie Maguire on Key Coaching Takeaways During Season 3

18 december 2024 | 41 min

45. Jennifer Flint on The Kids or Childfree Decision as a Spiritual Journey

11 december 2024 | 79 min

44. Keltie Maguire on Astrid's Story and Other Thoughts on Motherhood Regret

4 december 2024 | 33 min

43. Dr. Jade Sasser on Climate Anxiety and The Kid Question

27 november 2024 | 62 min

In this conversation, Keltie interviews author and professor, Dr. Jade Sasser, about her book, 'Climate Anxiety and the Kid Question,' which explores the emotional and mental health impacts of climate change on reproductive decisions. They discuss:

Jade's research exploring how climate anxiety is shaping young people's reproductive decision-making, including the generational differences that exist in awareness and engagement with climate change.

Why emotional distress about climate change often intersects with other factors, including race and class.
How climate anxiety complicates the decision to have children — and why it's essential to consider climate change when exploring the Kids or Childfree choice.
Why, for some, having children can be an act of hope and joy, while for others, forgoing children can bring a sense of relief.
The importance of community support when addressing climate concerns and anxiety.
How youth activism can shift political landscapes regarding climate change.
Jade's personal Kids or Childfree choice — and whether it has anything to do with climate change.

As mentioned in the show: Read Dr. Jade Sasser's book, Climate Anxiety and The Kid Question: Deciding Whether to Have Children in an Uncertain Future Listen to Jade's Podcast, Climate Anxiety and The Kid Question here. You can find Jade online at jadesasserphd.com. Learn more about the Climate Mental Health Network at climatementalhealth.net. Save 30% with code UCPSAVE30 when you purchase Jade's book, Climate Anxiety and The Kid Question, from the UC Press website: www.ucpress.edu/books/climate-anxiety-and-the-kid-question/ About Dr. Jade Sasser: Dr. Jade S. Sasser is Associate Professor in the Department of Gender & Sexuality Studies at the University of California, Riverside. She received her PhD in Environmental Science, Policy, and Management from the University of California, Berkeley. Her work explores how environmental problems such as climate change and toxic exposures intersect with reproductive bodies, health, and rights. Her first book, On Infertile Ground: Population Control and Women’s Rights in the Era of Climate Change, was published in 2018 by NYU Press and won the Emory Elliott book award. Her new book, Climate Anxiety and the Kid Question: Deciding Whether to Have Children in an Uncertain Future (2024), analyzes the relationship between climate emotions, social inequality, and reproductive anxiety in the U.S. She also has a podcast with the same name. In her free time, Sasser is a DJ at her campus radio station. __ Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

42. Astrid Hurault de Ligny on When You Regret Becoming a Mom

20 november 2024 | 86 min

In this conversation, Keltie speaks with author and mother, Astrid Hurault de Ligny, about the complexities of motherhood, including Astrid's experience of maternal regret. You'll hear...

Astrid's journey from the decision to have children, through the romanticized notions of motherhood, to the harsh realities of parenting, including the mental load and postpartum depression.
How Astrid realized her feelings were more than postpartum depression, but actually, ones of regret that she had chosen motherhood.
Why support — or a lack thereof — has played a key role in Astrid's regret.
Why regretting motherhood doesn't mean not loving your child, or wishing they weren't born.
Why she decided to start her Instagram channel, and ultimately, to write a book detailing her experiences.
The role therapy has played in Astrid's marriage and the support systems that have helped her navigate the challenges of parenting.
Which feelings about motherhood are most present for Astrid today.
How and if women on the fence about kids can safeguard themselves against regret in motherhood.

As mentioned in the show: Find Astrid's book, Le Regret Maternel, here. Astrid can be found on Instagram at @le_regret_maternel. Find the book, Regretting Motherhood by Orna Donath, here. About Astrid: Astrid Hurault de Ligny is a soon-to-be 39-year-old woman who was born in France, and who has been living in Montreal, Canada, since 2008. She and her husband met in Montreal 12 years ago, and have a 6-year-old son together. _ Join our upcoming Confidently Childfree Coaching intensive, which starts January 25th, here: kidsorchildfree.com/confidently-childfree-group-intensive And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

41. Reena Esmail on Choosing a Creative Childfree Life

13 november 2024 | 68 min

This week on the podcast, Keltie speaks with composer, Reena Esmail, about her unique journey to getting clear on her choice to pursue a creative life without kids. You'll hear about:

How Reena knew that the choice to remain childfree was the right one for her.
The dynamic between her and her husband — from his involvement in their childfree decision, to the creative life they share.
The autonomy, freedom, and creativity that a childfree life has afforded Reena.
The pressures and guilt that can accompany being an only child who chooses not to have children, and how Reena navigated difficult conversations with her parents about her decision.
The intersection of career and parenthood, including the concept of legacy, especially for those who choose not to have kids.
The significant role that mentorship has played for Reena, in shaping the lives of young, fellow musicians.

As mentioned in the show: Find Reena online at www.reenaesmail.com Her Instagram is www.instagram.com/reenaesmail You can find some of Reena's incredible musical compositions on her YouTube channel: youtube.com/@reenaesmailcomposer

About Reena:

Reena Esmail is a concert composer who writes new music for major orchestras and choirs all over the world. Her work bridges the worlds of Indian and Western classical music, bringing people from different cultures and backgrounds together through music. She was trained at Juilliard, Yale School of Music and did a Fulbright in India. Reena loves working with young people everywhere she goes, and is always looking for ways to cultivate their unique creative spirits. __ Get our Kids or Childfree Book Guide and other free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

40. Becca Rea-Tucker on Abortion and The Kids or Childfree Choice

6 november 2024 | 51 min

In this conversation, Becca Tucker shares her unique journey as a baker, author, abortion rights advocate, and mom — including how her past abortion is intertwined with her decision to have a child. You'll hear her and Keltie discuss:

The stigma that exists around abortion, and the work Becca is doing to break this stigma
Becca's experience of having an abortion at age 20 — including the secrecy she held around it for so long — and why she finally started talking openly about it
The importance of breaking down barriers and sharing personal stories to foster understanding and compassion
The complex emotions surrounding both the Kids or Childfree decision and abortion, and the value of emotional agnosticism in navigating these emotions
Why our past decisions do not need to define or determine our future parenting decisions or abilities
Why an abortion in college allowed Becca to be the parent she is today, and why abortion can be a loving decision for oneself.

As mentioned in the show: You can find Becca (including abortion resources) online at thesweetfeminist.com. She is on Instagram at instagram.com/thesweetfeminist/ Becca's Substack is: thesweetfeminist.substack.com Purchase a copy of Baking By Feel here or at your local bookstore. About Becca: Becca Rea-Tucker is an Austin, Texas-based author, baker, and abortion rights advocate. She loves almond croissants and creating spaces where people who have abortions feel seen and supported. Known online as @thesweetfeminist, she merges baking and advocacy to help break down abortion stigma, sharing daily affirmations and resources with a community of thousands. She is the author of the cookbook Baking by Feel, and the upcoming The Abortion Companion. -- Get details on my Clarity Booster offering here: kidsorchildfree.com/claritybooster Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

39. Rose Diell on Being on the Fence About Kids

30 oktober 2024 | 67 min

In this conversation, Rose Diell discusses her debut novel 'Fledging', which explores the complexities of the decision to have children — plus, we hear Rose's personal experience of being on the fence about kids. You'll hear Rose and Keltie discuss:

The societal pressures and personal reflections that shape the Kids or Childfree decision.
The emotional landscape of regret, acceptance, and the influence of relationships on personal choices.
Rose's book 'Fledging', including the creative process behind it, the themes of relationships and parenthood, and the emotional journey of making childfree choices.
How diverse narratives and stories about parenthood and fulfillment enrich the conversation around life choices.
The independence that comes with being childfree and the relief of making a definitive decision about motherhood.

...and so much more! As mentioned in the show: Purchase Rose's new book, Fledging, at your favorite local bookseller, at renardpress.com, or bookshop.org.

Find Rose on Instagram at: instagram.com/rosediellauthor And on X: x.com/rosediell Learn more about Rose at www.rosediell.com. Hear We Are Childfree's podcast episode about hot and cold regret, here. About Rose: Rose Diell was born and raised in London but her heritage stems from various places beyond the British Isles. A lover of language in all its forms, she speaks French, Italian and Arabic, and has lived on three continents. Rose writes in her spare time, with the encouragement and support of her writing circle, the Southbank Scribblers. She now lives in London again, with her civil partner and Tolstoy, an extremely fluffy ginger tabby. Fledging is her first novel. ___ Find information on how we can work together 1-on-1 here: kidsorchildfree.com/coaching Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree workshop by signing up here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

38. Angela Accomando on Surviving Domestic Abuse with Kids

23 oktober 2024 | 78 min

In this week's episode, guest Angela Accomando shares the ups and downs of her motherhood journey — a path that has been rooted in resilience, strength, and love. You'll hear about:

The relationship that as Angela shares, "never should have happened" — with a man 23 years her senior, when Angela was just 16 years old.
How Angela's early childhood left her longing for the connection she saw that parenthood could offer her.
Her experience as a young mother to 3 children, and the challenges of building a business while raising kids.
Angela's harrowing journey through abuse, including the complexities of love and codependency, and the impact of her experiences on her children.
Reflections on Angela's path to healing, the struggles of parenting after trauma, and her eventual journey to find love again.
Angela's advice for those in an abusive partnership who are weighing the Kids or Childfree decision.
The role that mindfulness and self-awareness have played in shaping these latter years of Angela's life.

As mentioned in the show:

Find Angela on Instagram at: instagram.com/angelaccomando Learn more about Conscious Parenting expert, Dr. Shefali: drshefali.com Domestic abuse resources: USA: https://www.thehotline.org https://www.domesticshelters.org/ Canada: https://www.sheltersafe.ca/ https://ihealapp.ca/

United Kingdom: https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/ https://www.womensaid.org.uk/womens-aid-directory/

Europe: https://ec.europa.eu/justice/saynostopvaw/helpline.html About Angela: Meet Chef Angela Rivera-Accomando, the CEO and founder of Golden Meals. Golden Meals provides organizations with food boxes and prepared meals feeding community members struggling with food insecurity. She has also worked alongside former New York State Senator David Carlucci and Assemblymember Ken Zebrowski in 2019. That partnership led to the change in law to help victims of domestic violence file reports for crimes made against them. She has seamlessly merged her passion for nourishing people with a commitment to social justice—a convergence she never anticipated. ___ Find information on how we can work together 1-on-1 here: kidsorchildfree.com/coaching Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree workshop by signing up here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

37. Rachel Honeyman on When Plans Change

16 oktober 2024 | 75 min

In this conversation, Rachel Honeyman shares her personal Kids or Childfree journey, including how she changed her mind about not wanting kids, the fertility journey that ensued when she decided to pursue motherhood — and what life looks like today as a childless-not-by-choice woman. You'll hear Keltie and Rachel discuss:

Why Rachel originally decided not to have kids — and what made her change her mind.
Her experiences with fertility challenges and IVF — including the emotional toll of these experiences, the impact on her relationship with her husband, and the importance of mental health and therapy in her healing process.
How Rachel made the difficult decision to close the door on children.
The different perspectives and feelings Rachel and her husband had about parenthood and their fertility journey.
The role that entrepreneurship has played in her life without kids, and the empowerment she found in jujitsu.
Why the Kids or Childfree decision is almost always not a single decision, but a series of decisions.
How Rachel is doing today, two years after deciding to stop pursuing motherhood.

As mentioned in the show: Find Rachel online at honeybebold.com. You can also connect on LinkedIn at: linkedin.com/in/rachel-honeyman

About Rachel: Rachel Honeyman runs honeybebold, where she and her team build bold brands and websites for mission-driven, female-owned service businesses. She runs a podcast called Bold Women in Business. Rachel’s an avid traveler, writer, martial artist, women’s self-defense teacher, and bunny mama to Luna and Lupin, but she cannot keep a plant alive and shouldn’t be allowed to keep buying them. She and her husband are childless not-by-choice after an arduous infertility journey.

___ Want to connect about bringing my Kids or Childfree workshop to your audience? Reach out to me at [email protected]. Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree workshop by signing up here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

36. Keltie Maguire on Navigating FOMO

9 oktober 2024 | 35 min

35. Liz Leedham-Pepin on Becoming a Mom Through Adoption

2 oktober 2024 | 76 min

In this conversation, Keltie speaks with Liz Leedham-Pepin, who shares her powerful journey to motherhood through adoption. You'll hear Liz and Keltie discuss:

Liz's lifelong dreams of motherhood, and the emotional rollercoaster of trying to conceive
Why Liz decided that motherhood probably wasn't for her after all, and why she and her wife decided to adopt after a life-changing epiphany
Insights from Liz's experience navigating the adoption process, the importance of self-advocacy, and the unexpected challenges that arose along the journey
The importance of openness in adoption, the ethical considerations involved, and the lengthy process of navigating the adoption system in Canada
Some of the complexities and challenges of parenting Liz and her wife have faced as an LGBTQ+ couple
Liz's experience and perspectives on parenting children with special needs
Advice for prospective adoptive parents and reflections on the joys of parenthood

About Liz: Liz Leedham-Pepin is a nurse living in British Columbia, Canada, with her wife and their adopted twins. Their family will soon be joined by the twins' younger brother. Liz's professional experience includes time spent working with autistic children and at-risk youth, including youth and teenagers struggling with emotional disturbances, addiction, mental health, homelessness, and prostitution. Liz's nursing experience includes emergency and on-call forensic nursing, and supporting moderate to severe mental health and addiction.

___ Join the upcoming Kids or Childfree Group Program here: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

34. Kate Brightwell on Being Childfree at Work

24 september 2024 | 79 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire and Kate Brightwell explore the complexities of choosing a childfree life, including what it means to be a childfree woman in the workplace. You'll hear Keltie and Kate discuss:

The pressures Kate faced to have children, despite having always known she didn't want any.
How being childfree has impacted Kate's romantic partnerships and dating experiences.
Kate's experience of feeling othered in the workplace due to her childfree status.
The dynamics of workplace culture and the experiences of those who do not conform to traditional family structures.
The intersection of the Kids or Childfree decision and women's reproductive rights — and why using your voice and voting power is as important as it's ever been.
Cultural perceptions of childlessness and the significance of personal choices in shaping one's career and life path.

As mentioned in the show: Find Kate on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kate-brightwell-a195b528/

About Kate: Kate is a lobbyist and tech public policy specialist, based in London. She has previously worked for a leading US tech company, global management consultancies, and the UK election regulator. Her passion for politics has enabled her to focus on public policy that impacts society and is what has driven her career to date. Kate is currently taking a career break, which she describes as her "maternity leave without a baby"! During this period of fun-employment she is thinking long and hard about what comes next while enjoying traveling in her campervan around Europe and spending overdue time with loved ones. She also has a side hustle as a dog sitter.

___ Join the upcoming Kids or Childfree Group Program here: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

33. Katie Bryan on Solo Motherhood By Choice

18 september 2024 | 89 min

In this episode, Keltie chats with coach and The Single Greatest Choice podcast host, Katie Bryan, about her journey of choosing to have a child on her own. You'll hear them discuss:

The complexities of deciding whether to wait for a partner or pursue solo parenthood.
Katie's initial plans of being a stay-at-home mom and how her divorce at 28 changed everything.
Katie's experiences of dating and settling in relationships, as well as the decision to freeze her eggs.
The process of finding a sperm donor and undergoing IUI, plus the emotions of shame, regret, and hopelessness that accompanied her journey.
Why personal growth and self-love are essential in embracing the path of single motherhood.
Katie's positive experience with pregnancy and the joy she felt in carrying her son, plus, what solo motherhood is like today.

How support from friends and loved ones can make a significant difference during the process of becoming a solo mother by choice.
How Katie provides support and coaching for women considering solo motherhood and has created a community for them to connect and share their experiences.

As mentioned in the show: Find Katie online at www.singlegreatestchoice.com. Instagram: instagram.com/single_greatest_choice Tune into the Single Greatest Choice Podcast: singlegreatestchoice.com/podcast Learn about the U.S. Donor Conceived Council, and the resources they offer, here: https://www.usdcc.org/ Learn about the company Katie shares, that offers ethical donor matching: https://www.theseedscout.com/ About Katie: Katie Bryan is a coach, community facilitator, and single mother by choice. After a divorce in her late 20s and an exhausting decade of unsuccessful dating, Katie decided she was ready to separate her desire for motherhood from her desire to find a life-partner. While solo motherhood was most certainly a Plan B, choosing to pursue pregnancy through IVF and donor conception is the single greatest choice she's ever made. She is now a mama to her 3 year old son and has pivoted her career to support other women who are considering or pursuing solo motherhood. She hosts The Single Greatest Choice Podcast and provides 1:1 and group coaching as well as retreats for women who are considering having a child on their own through pregnancy or adoption. — Get details on my Clarity Booster offering here: kidsorchildfree.com/claritybooster Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

32. Jackie Shannon Hollis on My Childless Love Story

11 september 2024 | 68 min

In this episode, Keltie speaks with writer and author, Jackie Shannon Hollis, about what happens when you fall in love with a man who doesn't want children, joyfully commit to a life together...and then begin longing for a child, shortly after your wedding day. You'll hear them discuss:

The importance of being intentional in our choices and not being locked into societal expectations.
The role of other people's opinions and how Jackie managed her feelings of longing for a child while being in a relationship with someone who didn't want kids.
Why there is no right or wrong answer when it comes to having kids.
How Jackie made peace with the decision not to have children and how she found joy and fulfillment in other areas of life.
The challenges and rewards of aging without children, and the richness that comes from focusing on what one has rather than what one does not have.

As mentioned in the show: Purchase Jackie's book, This Particular Happiness: A Childless Love Story, here: jackieshannonhollis.com/purchase Find Jackie online at www.jackieshannonhollis.com. Facebook: facebook.com/Jackie.Shannon.Hollis Instagram: instagram.com/jackie.shannon.hollis Threads: threads.net/@jackie.shannon.hollis Join an upcoming quarterly "fireside" chat on Zoom, with childless elders the NoMoCrones (Non Mom Crones): gateway-women.com/gateway-elderwomen/ About Jackie: Jackie Shannon Hollis is a writer, storyteller, speaker, and the author of the memoir, This Particular Happiness: A Childless Love Story (Forest Avenue Press). Her writing has been described as honest and intimate, exploring complex human issues in prose that is both direct and lyrical. Her work has appeared in various literary magazines, including The Sun, Rosebud, Inkwell, High Desert Journal, VoiceCatcher, Nailed, and Slice Magazine. — Join the upcoming Kids or Childfree Group Program here: kidsorchildfree.com/kids-or-childfree-program Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

31. Keltie Maguire on Season Two's Top Takeaways

21 augusti 2024 | 55 min

30. Nicole Louie on Others Like Me

13 augusti 2024 | 60 min

In this conversation, Keltie interviews Nicole Louie: writer, translator, and author of the brand-new book, Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children. You'll hear them discuss:

Nicole's experience of not wanting to become a mother from a young age and the challenges she faced in navigating societal expectations.
The importance of turning up the volume on one's own voice and inner knowledge when making the decision to be childfree.
The inspiration behind Others Like Me, and how it's fourteen stories highlight the diversity of experiences and perspectives within the childfree community.
The complexities of the decision to have children or remain childfree.
The need for inclusivity and understanding among women without children, and the dangers of imposing labels and categories on others.
How intergenerational connections between women without children of different ages can provide support, wisdom, and inspiration.

As mentioned in the show: Find Nicole on Instagram: instagram.com/bynicolelouie And on Twitter: twitter.com/bynicolelouie Read Nicole's book, Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children. About Nicole: Nicole Louie is a writer and translator based in Ireland. A former content strategist and creative writer for virtual assistants, she holds a BA in advertising and postgraduate diplomas in literature and translation. When not writing, she is reading about the lives of women without children. Her essays have appeared in Oh Reader and Childfree Magazine and her curated collections of books, movies, and podcasts about women who are not mothers by choice, infertility, circumstance or ambivalence can be found on Twitter and Instagram: @bynicolelouie. Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children is her first book. About Others Like Me: Others Like Me: The Lives of Women Without Children by Nicole Louie (published by Dialogue Books in the UK in June & House of Anansi in North America in Nov 2024). A deeply personal exploration of childless and childfree women in their own words. Others Like Me is the story of fourteen women around the world, from different walks of life, who don't have children. It's also the story of why Nicole Louie had to find them and what they taught her. Part memoir, part exploration of childlessness through candid conversations, this book showcases the many ways in which people find fulfillment outside of parenthood. And because the social expectation to procreate weighs the most on women, Louie focuses solely on them, their experiences, and how they flourish outside of motherhood. In doing so, she upends the stereotypes that diminish women who are not mothers and offers reassurance and companionship on a path less known. — Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

29. Merle Bombardieri, MSW, LICSW on Navigating The Baby Decision

7 augusti 2024 | 77 min

In this conversation, Keltie interviews her colleague and mentor, Merle Bombardieri — author of The Baby Decision, clinical social worker, and parent decision coach — about the decision to have or not have children. You'll hear them discuss:

How couples can navigate disagreements on this topic and find a solution that works for both partners.
Why there's no obligation to do anything special as a childfree person, and also, many childfree individuals end up doing extraordinary things.
Some of the more recent factors that Merle has seen over her 45-year career, which are making the Kids or Childfree decision more difficult.
Tips for addressing a fear of pregnancy and loss of control over one's body during pregnancy and child birth.
The societal pressures and expectations surrounding the Kids or Childfree decision — plus guidance on how to navigate these concerns and make an informed choice.
Why having one child could be an excellent — yet often-overlooked — option for fence-sitters.
The existential questions and mortality that can be stirred up by this decision, and the importance of curiosity and self-trust in the decision-making process.

As mentioned in the show: Find Merle online at thebabydecision.com. Instagram: instagram.com/thebabydecision Facebook: facebook.com/thebabydecision About Merle:

Merle Bombardieri, MSW, LICSW, has been a private practice clinical social worker and psychotherapist for over 30 years. She specializes in parenthood decision-making, infertility, adoption, and making the most of a childfree life. The first edition of her book The Baby Decision was published in 1981. She lives in St. Petersburg, Florida, and Peterborough, New Hampshire.

— Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

28. Alice Greczyn on Grieving the Path Not Chosen

31 juli 2024 | 78 min

In this conversation, Keltie speaks with author, actress, and model, Alice Grecyzn, about Alice's decision to be childfree, and the ups and downs she has faced along the way to making this choice. You'll hear them discuss:

Alice's experience of an ultra-religious upbringing, losing her faith — and how both have influenced her childfree path
The parallels between fundamentalist religion and the pressures that we all face in our lives
The role that questioning the ethics of motherhood has played in Alice's decision
The "ingredients" that Alice discovered non-regretful parents to possess
The parts of motherhood that Alice has had to grieve — and what this mourning process entailed
Why we can't separate who we are – nor our circumstances — from the Kids or Childfree decision
What Alice's exploration of the Kids or Childfree decision looked like with her partner

...plus, they touch on so many other aspects of the mixed emotions and complexity that can accompany this decision. As mentioned in the show: Find Alice online at alicegreczyn.com Instagram: instagram.com/alicegreczyn Read Alice's substack: alicegreczyn.substack.com Buy Alice's memoir, Wayard, here: https://a.co/d/hP503cM About Alice:

Alice Greczyn is an author, actress, and model. Known for her acting roles in film and TV, Alice is now more recognized for her work as a religious trauma recovery advocate, appearing on prominent podcasts and presenting at conferences on the topics of purity culture, neurotheology, and finding meaning in life as an atheist. Alice founded DaretoDoubt.org in 2019 connecting those fleeing spiritual abuse with resources helping survivors heal from the unintended damage of faith-based beliefs. A controversial figure for her outspokenness against religious and political fundamentalism, Alice finds her deepest sense of purpose helping others free themselves from the shackles of fear and shame. She lives in LA with her cat and fiancé and loves hiking, learning, and eating anything with melted cheese. — Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

27. Dr. Natasha Ghosh on Finding the Kids or Childfree Answer Within

24 juli 2024 | 50 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire interviews Dr. Natasha Ghosh, a therapist and coach, about her journey into motherhood and the decision to have children. You'll hear them discuss:

The mixed emotions and uncertainties that come with becoming a mother, as well as the external pressures and societal expectations surrounding parenthood.
The importance of listening to your own voice and making choices based on personal desires and values — plus how to tap into this inner voice.
How trusting oneself and cultivating self-love can help in navigating the challenges and uncertainties of parenthood.
Fear of regret and the challenge of trusting oneself in making this decision.
Practical tools for connecting with oneself, cultivating inner knowing, and managing anxiety and fear in the decision-making process.

...and so many other aspects of this choice. As mentioned in the show: Find Natasha online at www.digdeepcounselling.com. Instagram: instagram.com/digdeepcounselling/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/natashaghosh About Natasha:

With over 20 years of experience in the field of Psychology, Dr Natasha Ghosh, PhD, MEd, CHyp, RCC, is an expert in helping people feel more emotionally grounded, peaceful, purposeful and in charge of their life.

Natasha’s practice is rooted in science and soul; integrating both evidence-based therapies, strong intuition and specialized techniques that lead to deep healing and transformation. You will develop and discover clarity and make sustainable change so that you can live fully and fearlessly. — Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop here: kidsorchildfree.com/workshop Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

26. Katy Seppi on Being Childfree Not by Choice

17 juli 2024 | 79 min

In this episode, The Childless Collective online community host, Katy Seppi, shares her journey of infertility and becoming childfree not by choice. You'll hear her and Keltie discuss:

Katy's personal experience with infertility, IVF, and endometriosis — and the challenges of accessing proper medical care.
How and when Katy decided to stop fertility treatments and pursue a hysterectomy.
How the lack of support and understanding from the healthcare system can exacerbate the emotional and physical challenges faced by individuals struggling with infertility and reproductive health issues.
The difficult decisions that come with choosing to stop trying for a child.

The harmful messaging around never giving up on having a child and the complexities of fertility treatments, surrogacy, and adoption.
The nuances and complexities of the terms 'childless' and 'childfree' and the societal pressures associated with these choices ...in what is a heartfelt, raw, and important conversation.

As mentioned in the show: Check out Katy's community for childless women and non-binary people, The Childless Collective, here: childlesscollective.com Find Katy on TikTok here: tiktok.com/@childlesscollective And on Instagram here: instagram.com/childlesscollective About Katy: Here's what Katy shares about her story: "My four-year infertility journey ended with a hysterectomy in 2017. At the time, I didn’t have a single person I could talk to who was also involuntarily childless. I decided to use my background in community organizing to create gathering places for childless people to connect, access support, and talk about the common themes that weave through our experiences. I host the Childless Collective online community, which is a year-round hub of connection and support for childless women and nonbinary people. I've also hosted the Childless Collective Summit for the past four years, bringing together 100 speakers and over 8,000 attendees together. I have a Master’s of Social Work degree from UGA, with an emphasis in community empowerment and program development. My current home is Savannah, Georgia, where I spend my free time on my bike, exploring swamps, reading, hanging out with my favorite people, finding the best tiki drinks, and anything else that strikes my fancy." — Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

25. Roamaroo's Collette & Scott Stohler on Seeing the World With a Kid

10 juli 2024 | 62 min

Travel journalists and long-time couple, Scott and Collette Stohler, share their journey of deciding to have a child and how it's impacted their adventurous lifestyle. You'll hear them and Keltie discuss:

Why having a child doesn't have to mean giving up travel, adventure, and freedom
Challenges of the postpartum period and the transformation it brought to their identities
Their experiences navigating the challenges and joys of parenting, travel, and their relationship as a couple
The importance of communication, openness, and flexibility in maintaining a strong partnership and family dynamic
The joys and challenges of traveling with a child

...and many other topics, for a conversation that's sure to inspire, no matter which Kids or Childfree choice you ultimately make. As mentioned in the show: Find Collette and Scott online at roamaroo.com And on social media at: Facebook: facebook.com/roamaroo TikTok: tiktok.com/@roamaroo_travel YouTube: youtube.com/c/Roamaroo Instagram: instagram.com/roamaroo About Collette & Scott:

Here's what this adventurous family has to say: "We are Collette, Scott, and baby Scotland, family travel journalists dedicated to inspiring & empowering families to travel. As a traveling family, we believe that there is no age limit on adventure and no limit to what families can accomplish together. We have 18 special years as a family and we hope you’ll join us as we dream big, explore more, and discover life.

In 2015, we decided to quit our jobs as corporate desk jockeys and redefine the American Dream. Since then, we have been traveling the world full-time, exploring off the beaten path locations and inspiring others through our active vagabond lifestyle. We rented our house, quit our jobs, and threw caution to the wind all with an end goal of viewing the world and all its wonders. In 2022, we decided to grow our traveling family when we welcome our baby girl, Scotland, and our dog, Lucy, to the crew!"

___ Get the details on the summer session of my group coaching program, Confidently Childfree, here. Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

24. Dr. Jay Zigmont, CFP on Childfree Wealth & Legacy

3 juli 2024 | 53 min

In this episode, Dr. Jay Zigmont, a childfree wealth expert, shares his experiences as a childfree man, alongside the challenges and opportunities for childfree people when it comes to their financial and life planning. Hear Dr. Jay and Keltie discuss:

The lack of representation and understanding for childfree individuals and the judgment they often face.
The importance of questioning societal expectations and making decisions based on personal desires and values.
The need for financial planning tailored to the unique needs and goals of childfree individuals.
That although being childfree does not automatically make someone wealthy, it does provide more flexibility and freedom in life choices.
The importance of creating a life plan and financial plan that align with personal goals and values.

...and so many more important topics related to finances, freedom, and the lives of childfree people. As mentioned in the show:

Find Dr. Jay on Instagram: instagram.com/childfreewealth/ On LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/childfree-wealth/ Find out more about Dr. Jay and Childfree Wealth at childfreewealth.com. Pre-order Dr. Jay's upcoming book, The Childfree Guide to Life and Money: https://www.amazon.com/Childfree-Guide-LIfe-Money-Management-ebook/dp/B0CVNPWDTW About Dr. Jay: Jay Zigmont, PhD, MBA, CFP® is the Founder and CEO of Childfree Wealth®, a life and financial planning firm dedicated to helping Childfree and Permanently Childless people. Childfree Wealth is the first life and financial planning firm dedicated to serving Childfree people. Dr. Jay is a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™, Childfree Wealth Specialist, and author of the book “Portraits of Childfree Wealth” and the upcoming book “The Childfree Guide to Life and Money.” Dr Jay is the co-host of the Childfree Wealth podcast. His Ph.D. is in Adult Learning from the University of Connecticut. He has been featured in Fortune, Forbes, MarketWatch, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Business Insider, CNBC, and many other publications. In 2023, he was named a “Rising Star” by Financial Planning. —— Get the details on the summer session of my group coaching program, Kids or Childfree, here. Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

23. Amanda E. White, LPC on Lessons from a Former Fence Sitter

26 juni 2024 | 52 min

Therapist, mother, and founder of the popular @therapyforwomen Instagram account, Amanda E. White, shares her personal experience of being on the fence about having kids — and how she arrived her her decision to become a mom. Hear her and Keltie discuss:

The complexity of the Kids or Childfree decision, and factors such as societal pressures, personal fears, relationship dynamics, and emotional readiness.
Fear of regret, and how this plays into the choice to have kids or remain childfree.
Exploring ambivalence and making informed, conscious choices.
How social media and other online content can impact decision-making and contribute to further confusion.

...and so many more important aspects of this decision. As mentioned in the show:

Find Amanda on Instagram: instagram.com/therapyforwomen Read Amanda's Fence Sitter Substack: amandaewhite.substack.com Learning about Amanda's therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center: www.therapyforwomencenter.com About Amanda: Amanda E. White is a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular Instagram account @therapyforwomen. She writes a substack called Fence Sitter. She is the author of the book “Not Drinking Tonight” and its corresponding workbook. She is the founder of the group therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center, based in Philadelphia serving clients across the country. She has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes, Washington Post, Shape, Women’s Health Magazine, and more. To learn more visit amandaewhite.com —— Get the details on the summer session of my group coaching program, Confidently Childfree, here. Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

22. Shweta Ramkumar on Choosing Childfree as an Antinatalist

19 juni 2024 | 60 min

In this conversation, Shweta, a childfree woman of Southern Asian background, shares what she calls "the best decision I ever made" — namely, her choice to be childfree. You'll hear her and Keltie discuss:

How Shweta's upbringing and the gender roles she observed in her extended family influenced her decision.
The positive response she has received from her family and friends, although her choice goes against the cultural norms.
Why self-awareness and setting boundaries are important when dealing with societal expectations.
The concept of antinatalism, and why this is a philosophy that Shweta subscribes to.
Shweta's experiences traveling as a childfree woman ...and many more aspects of Shweta's unwavering choice to be childfree.

As mentioned in the show:

Find Shweta online on... Instagram: @childfreesrbuddysmum TikTok: @shwetaramkumar About Shweta: All of Shweta's social media bios contain the following words: Educator, Adventurer, Foodie, Singer, Dog-Mom, Minimalist, Unconventional, Childfree by Choice, Antinatalist and Egalitarian. She's a multitalented, multipassionate creative woman who has lived and travelled all over the world, worked in a variety of industries and is currently an up and coming entrepreneur with a business that marries up her passions, skillset, knowledge and experience. She's a Southern Asian woman of colour and a pioneer of dismantling the oppressive norms of the conservative, sexist, and patriarchal culture and society she grew up in. As an unmarried childfree millennial woman, her life journey sets a strong example of breaking free from the shackles of disempowering cultural conformity and stand out as a proud black sheep in more ways than one. She's an avid advocate of the childfree lifestyle where she has made valuable contributions through podcast and video interviews, speaking on conventions and conferences and blog posts. She is currently based in Melbourne Australia.

——— Get the details on the upcoming session of the Kids or Childfree group coaching program here: kidsorchildfree.com/group-coaching Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

21. Julie McFadden (a.k.a. Hospice Nurse Julie) on Your Kids or Childfree Choice and End of Life

12 juni 2024 | 58 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire asks hospice nurse Julie McFadden the questions on your mind when it comes to your Kids or Childfree decision and all things death and dying. You'll hear them discuss:

Julie's personal journey as a nurse and her decision to specialize in hospice care
How at age 41, Julie is able to have such an attitude of openness about still possibly having children...or not
Julie's brand-new book, 'Nothing to Fear: Demystifying Death to Live More Fully,' and the worldwide impact of understanding the dying process
How to prepare for end-of-life care, no matter which Kids or Childfree choice you make — and the misconception that having children guarantees care in old age
Why whether or not you have kids doesn't actually matter in end-of-life
Inspiring stories of those who died never having had children
The beauty of witnessing both birth and death ...in what is a powerful, funny, and moving conversation!

As mentioned in the show:

Find Julie online at www.hospicenursejulie.com. YouTube: youtube.com/@hospicenursejulie Instagram: instagram.com/hospicenursejulie/ TikTok: tiktok.com/@hospicenursejulie Get Julie's brand-new book, Nothing to Fear: https://a.co/d/5c19mY4 About Julie: Julie McFadden, BSN, RN has been a nurse for 15 years. Julie is an experienced ICU, and now Hospice/Palliative Nurse. Julie has been featured in Newsweek, USA today, The Atlantic, and several other articles worldwide. Julie has been passionate about normalizing death through education to the masses using social media and now her new book coming out in June- Nothing To Fear. Her TikTok has 1.4M followers, and you can find her on all social media platforms (Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube) at Hospice Nurse Julie. You can find her on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. ——— Get the details on my one-on-one coaching offers here. Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

20. Christian Haefele (a.k.a. Keltie's husband) on Choosing Childfree as a Man

5 juni 2024 | 80 min

In this episode, Keltie is joined by her husband, Chris, for a candid discussion about their decision to be childfree, and namely, how choosing childfree has been for Chris as a man. The two of them discuss:

Chris's personal journey from ambivalence to confidently childfree
The role of personal and relationship development in their decision-making process, and how they navigated their decision as a couple
The challenges and potential resentment that can arise if one partner wants children more than the other
Topics such as societal pressures, financial considerations, and the desire to maintain their current lifestyle
How societal pressure and expectations around having children are different for men than women, plus Chris's personal experience with nosy questions and naysayers
Chris's feelings about getting a vasectomy and why he's chosen not to have one
The love they share for their childfree life together, and how they find and create deeper meaning and fulfillment

As mentioned in the show: Find Christian on: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christianhaefele/ Instagram: instagram.com/chris_ongram/ Episode 10 with Ruby Warrington on Women Without Kids Episodes 5 and 6 where Keltie shares her personal journey to being childfree About Christian: Christian Haefele is a mountain enthusiast, dog lover, and avid traveler who lives in Munich Germany, with his wife, Keltie, and dog, Shira. His hobbies include ultra-trail running, hiking, and stand-up paddle-boarding. When he's not adventuring, Chris loves enjoying a craft beer or two and cooking up delicious vegan dishes. Chris has previously lived in Vancouver, Canada, and he works in tech sales providing digital solutions to Germany's largest retailers. ___ Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

19. Julie Lythcott-Haims on Parenting Outside the Overparenting Trap

29 maj 2024 | 69 min

Julie Lythcott-Haims — New York Times bestselling author, TED speaker, former Stanford dean, and lawyer — is here to share her wisdom with us on living an authentic life, the impact of helicopter parenting (and how we can break free of this trap, should we choose to become parents), and her experiences as a mom of two adult children. Hear her and Keltie discuss:

The importance of defining one's unique path in life — and how we can break free of the pressures that surround us.
Julie's personal path to motherhood — including its challenges and rewards.
What Julie is seeing and hearing from young people about the decision to have kids or not.
The danger of today's culture of intensive parenting — and how we can choose to do things differently.
Why couples should and can prioritize their own well-being, and take time for themselves to maintain a healthy relationship.
The challenges of maintaining friendships when one person becomes a parent — and the different values and priorities that can arise.
The profound learning experience of having children. ...and so much more!

As mentioned in the show:

Find Julie online at julielythcotthaims.com. X: x.com/jlythcotthaims Instagram: instagram.com/jlythcotthaims Facebook: facebook.com/jlythcotthaims/ Julie's books: Real American: A Memoir How to Raise an Adult: Break Free of the Overparenting Trap and Prepare Your Kids for Success Your Turn: How to Be an Adult About Julie: Julie Lythcott-Haims believes in humans and is deeply interested in what gets in our way. Her work encompasses writing, speaking, public service, and activism. She is a New York Times bestselling author of books on human development, a TED speaker, a former Stanford dean, and a lawyer, and she holds degrees from Stanford University (BA), Harvard Law (JD), and California College of the Arts (MFA). She serves on numerous nonprofit boards whose work focuses on equity, education, youth, wellness, and the arts. Julie lives in Palo Alto, California with her partner of over thirty years, their itinerant young adults, and her mother. She is a member of the Palo Alto City Council. __ Get the details on my Clarity Booster coaching offer here. Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

18. Katherine Ripley, LCSW on How Our Childhood Influences Our Kids or Childfree Decision

22 maj 2024 | 53 min

17. Marloes De Vries on Making a Conscious Childfree Choice

15 maj 2024 | 56 min

Join us for a conversation with Dutch writer, illustrator, and artist, Marloes de Vries. We discuss her book 'Kinderen krijg is optioneel' (Having Children is Optional) and Marloes' decision to be childfree. You'll hear about:

The pressures Marloes' felt from society and how she took time to reflect and be alone to solidify her decision.
The importance of being true to yourself and finding contentment in your own company.
The process of writing and illustrating her book and the need for more accessible and humorous resources on the topic of being childfree.
Why women need to make conscious decisions about motherhood and to consider the impact it will have on their lives.
The freedom and opportunities that come with being childfree, such as pursuing a career as an artist, as Marloes has done.
A discussion about regretting your Kids or Childfree choice — including the messages she receives from parents

...and so much more. As mentioned in the show: Find out more about Marloes and her work at marloesdevries.com/en. Get Marloes' book, Kinderen krijgen is optioneel at kinderenkrijgenisoptioneel.nl Find Marloes on Instagram: instagram.com/marloesdevee/ About Marloes: Here's Marloes in her own words... "Artist and author, and a freelancer for over 25 years. Based in the Netherlands, in love with the UK. Been with my partner for almost 9 years (who's also childfree). In 2016 I wrote an article about not wanting to have children for a Belgian magazine, which went viral online. I got asked to write a book on it but wanted to wait a few years until I understood how I felt exactly, and I wanted to do a lot of research on this topic. I had already been reading up on the topic for quite a few years by then, but dove in deeper since then. I questioned over 250 people (mostly women) about being childfree, and did in-depth interviews with 12 women for my book. I've read pretty much every article I could find online on this topic, and researched sexism and feminism related to child bearing. Since my book was published in November 2023 (Kinderen krijgen is optioneel / Having children is optional) I've done many interviews, and am contacted regularly by the Dutch media as a consultant on the childfree topic. My main viewpoint is that everyone should be free to make the decision of becoming a parent, but I strongly believe everyone should mindfully think about it before making a decision. I also believe you should consider the life of your unborn child before getting pregnant, because this is a choice that goes beyond 'do I want kids?'. It isn't about you, it's about the human you're putting on this earth." ___ Get my FREE Kids or Childfree Response Guide: www.kidsorchildfree.com/responseguide And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

16. Jane van Dis, M.D. on Having Kids in Today's World

8 maj 2024 | 67 min

In this conversation, we hear from Jane van Dis, M.D., an OB-GYN who specializes in women's/maternal health and its intersection with reproductive justice — both in terms of Jane's personal experience of motherhood and how her professional insights and expertise can help inform your own choice. You'll hear about:

The idea of informed consent in understanding the potential effects of pregnancy and childbirth on a woman's body and overall well-being.
The impact of environmental toxins, such as plastics and chemicals, on women's health and the potential risks they pose to pregnancy.
Climate change and its potential consequences on future generations when making decisions about having children.
The complexities of ethical decision-making in today's world.
Global population growth and declining birth rates, alongside the possibility of mandated motherhood ...and many more fascinating areas of discussion.

As mentioned in the show: Bumpin’ and Fertility Rules by Leslie Schrock (Medical Editor, Jane van Dis, M.D.) Under The Sky We Make by Kimberly Nicholas Generation Dread by Britt Wray Eve by Cat Bohannon

About Jane:

Jane van Dis, MD is an Assistant Professor of Obstetrics & Gynecology at the University of Rochester and faculty in the Institute for Human Health and the Environment. She lectures nationally and internationally on the intersection of the climate crisis and women's/maternal health. She Co-Founded OBGYNs For Sustainability and TIMES UP Healthcare and Co-Admins OB Mom Group. Dr. van Dis is an Editor at the Journal of OB Hospitalist Medicine and is a single mom to twins. __ Check out our free resources here, or at kidsorchildfree.com/free-resources And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

15. Keltie Maguire on Season One's Top Takeaways

10 april 2024 | 46 min

14. Kate Kaufmann on Being an Unabashed Childfree Elder

3 april 2024 | 51 min

Author Kate Kaufmann shares her journey of choosing to be childfree after trying to have children alongside much valuable wisdom gleaned over her 70-plus years of life without kids. You'll hear about:

The challenges and grief associated with this decision and how her identity shifted over time.
The importance of intergenerational relationships and the value of having childless elders in her life.
Practical aspects of aging without children, such as making end-of-life arrangements and having a support network in place.
The capacity and stability that come with not having children and the richness of relationships that can be formed in different ways.
Why individuals may not fit neatly into the categories of childless or childfree, and how one's feelings and experiences may change over time.

As mentioned on the show: Find out more about Kate and her work at www.katekaufmann.com You can read Kate's column over at Psychology Today here: www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/unapparent Learn about and purchase Kate's book, Do You Have Kids? Life When the Answer is No, here. About Kate: International, award-winning author of Do You Have Kids? Life When the Answer is No, Kate Kaufmann advocates for better understanding of the childless/childfree demographic in person, on air, and in print. A popular speaker, media guest, and conversation-starter, Kate has an MFA in creative writing and professional background in human resources and consulting. Outlets where her work has been featured include NBC, CBC Radio, Psychology Today, and the Washington Post. Kate’s mission is to open doors to frank, respectful conversations between the childless and childfree, as well as among parents, non-parents, and those whose futures are as yet unclear. Kate’s book Do You Have Kids? Life When the Answer is No has been published in North America, the United Kingdom, Taiwan, Brazil, and Korea, with a Chinese edition forthcoming. __ Get the details on both of my upcoming group programs – Kids or Childfree, as well as Confidently Childfree — here: kidsorchildfree.com/group-coaching And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

13. Jan Maguire (a.k.a. Keltie's Mom) on Choosing What's Right For You

20 mars 2024 | 47 min

12. Erica Smith on a Connected Life Without Kids

13 mars 2024 | 50 min

In this episode, Keltie and sex educator, Erica Smith, discuss how conservative religious values influence and enforce broader societal ideas about gender, sexuality, and the importance of having children. We also talk about Erica's choice to be childfree and the joyful life she has built without kids. You'll hear about:

The concept of purity culture and its influence on gender and sexuality.
Erica's decision to be childfree, plus guidance for those considering parenthood.
Why Erica feels so content and grateful for not having had children, and where she finds joy and fulfillment in her life.
How to respond to comments about one's childfree choice.
The importance of trusting your gut and seeking support with this decision.

As mentioned in the show: Find out more about Erica and her work at www.purityculturedropout.com. Get Erica's Sexual Values Workbook here. Find Erica on: Instagram: instagram.com/ericasmith.sex.ed Twitter: twitter.com/ericasmithsexed About Erica: Erica Smith is an award-winning sexuality educator and consultant with over 20 years of experience. Throughout her career, she has provided comprehensive sex education and advocacy to young women and LGBTQ+ youth in Philadelphia’s juvenile justice system, worked in abortion care, and supported HIV+ and transgender adolescents and their families. In 2019, she developed the Purity Culture Dropout™️ Program to help people learn all of the sex education that they missed growing up in purity culture- sex ed that is accurate, queer-inclusive, trauma-informed, compassionate, and comprehensive. She has since worked with hundreds of people to help them learn about healthy sexuality after high control religion. Erica lives in Philadelphia with her partner and house full of rescue animals. __ Find out how I can help you with your Kids or Childfree decision at: www.kidsorchildfree.com. And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

11. Eleanor Mayrhofer on Becoming a Mom Later in Life

6 mars 2024 | 51 min

Listen in as expat and small business owner, Eleanor Mayrhofer shares her experience of becoming a first- and only-time mom at age 44 and the emotional journey of ambivalence, decision-making, and fertility treatments that preceded motherhood. You'll hear her and Keltie discuss:

The importance of understanding the practicalities and challenges of pursuing parenthood.
Why fertility treatments are a roller coaster of hope and disappointment, and the importance of considering its emotional, financial, and logistical implications.
How our life decisions impact our choices and Kids or Childfree path.
How ambivalence and flip-flopping between choices can still exist, even once you decide to have a child.
Managing business and motherhood, as well as the challenges and benefits of raising a child in a foreign country.
The joy of finally having a child and advice for others considering fertility treatments.
Why the decision to become a parent is a deeply personal and emotional one and may not always have a rational explanation.

As mentioned in the show: Find out more about Eleanor and her work at www.eleanormayrhofer.com. Listen to Eleanor's The Germany Expat Business Show podcast here: https://www.eleanormayrhofer.com/podcast Find Eleanor on: Instagram: instagram.com/eleanormayrhofer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/eleanormayrhofer/ About Eleanor: Eleanor Mayrhofer was born and raised in Los Angeles, California. She moved to Munich, Germany on a whim when she was 27 and ended up staying. She married in her late 30s and had her first and only child at 44 after a long fertility journey. Eleanor runs an agency of one providing online marketing, strategy, and websites to expat business owners in Germany. __ Find out how I can help you with your Kids or Childfree decision at: www.kidsorchildfree.com. And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! You can leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or a rating on Spotify. Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

10. Ruby Warrington on Women Without Kids

28 februari 2024 | 56 min

This conversation with Ruby Warrington not only delves into the author's latest book, Women Without Kids, but Ruby's own decision not to have children. Listen in as she and Keltie discuss:

The immense societal pressure surrounding motherhood.
The normalization of questioning the desire to have children.
An exploration of Ruby's personal journey and the impact of family dynamics on her childfree decision.
Why women without kids should be seen as torchbearers of an alternative vision for womankind.
The myth of regretting not having children and the need for new solutions in an ever-changing world.
The notion of "fear-driven" decisions and the role of fear as a motivating force.
The challenges and pain associated with being child-free, including feelings of envy and loneliness.

As mentioned in the show: Find Ruby's latest book, Women Without Kids, here: https://a.co/d/6ox3DLG Find out more about Ruby and her events, services, and work at www.rubywarrington.com. Find Ruby on: Instagram: instagram.com/rubywarrington Or join Ruby's private Facebook group for Women Without Kids, here. About Ruby Warrington: Ruby Warrington is a British-born author, editor, and publishing consultant. Recognized as having the unique ability to identify issues that are destined to become part of the cultural narrative, she is perhaps best known as the creator of the term “Sober Curious”—her 2018 book and million-download podcast of the same title having helped to spearhead a global movement to reevaluate our relationship with alcohol. Ruby’s other works include Material Girl, Mystical World, The Sober Curious Reset, and Women Without Kids: The Revolutionary Rise of an Unsung Sisterhood, and her work has been featured by countless media outlets globally, including the New York Times, The Guardian, and Good Morning America. She lives in Brooklyn. __ Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop and also get access to our free resources at: www.kidsorchildfree.com. And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

9. Megan Sales on Stop Romanticizing Motherhood

21 februari 2024 | 50 min

8. Maria Coffey on Life Instead of Having Kids

9 februari 2024 | 55 min

Join Keltie and Maria Coffey, author of the memoir 'Instead,' as they discuss Maria's decision to live a childfree life and Maria's unique story of adventure, love, and self-discovery. You'll hear about:

The possibilities and fulfillment that can be found in a life without children
The impact Maria's decision has had on her relationships and sense of self
Some of the challenges Maria faced in navigating societal expectations and family pressures
How despite its struggles, a childfree life has offered Maria great freedom and lightness
The roles meaning and legacy have played in Maria's life

...alongside Maria sharing beautiful, poignant, and pivotal moments on her childfree journey. As mentioned in the show: Find Maria's memoir, Instead, here: https://a.co/d/35RmSaV Learn about Maria and Dag's travel company, Hidden Places, and its conservation branch, Adventures for a Cause: www.hiddenplaces.net Find Maria on: Instagram: instagram.com/bookscoffey/ X: twitter.com/BooksCoffey Facebook: facebook.com/maria.coffey.370 About Maria Coffey: Maria Coffey is an internationally published and award winning author of thirteen books. Fragile Edge: Loss on Everest, won two prizes in Italy including the 2002 ITAS Prize for Mountain Literature; Where the Mountain Casts its Shadow won the Banff Mountain Film Festival Literature Prize in 2003 and a National Book Award in 2004. For these titles, along with Explorers of the Infinite Maria was awarded the 2009 American Alpine Club H. Adams Carter Literary Award. Her most recent book, Instead: Navigating the Adventures of a Childfree Life won the Adventure Travel Prize at the 2023 Banff Mountain Film and Book Festival. Maria has also written extensively about her worldwide travels and expeditions with her husband Dag Goering, who is a veterinarian and photographer. They founded a boutique adventure travel company, Hidden Places, and its conservation branch Adventures for a Cause, raising funds and awareness for endangered species. Maria and Dag are based in British Columbia and in Catalonia. __ Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop: www.kidsorchildfree.com/workshop And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

7. Renae Saager on From a Hard No to Becoming a Mom

6 februari 2024 | 55 min

In this conversation, Keltie Maguire and Renae Sager discuss Renae's journey to becoming a mom, and how she went from being a hard no to eventually deciding to have a child. She talks about the challenges and mixed feelings she had during the first few months of motherhood, and how her experience has evolved during the first year of her son’s life. You’ll hear about how:

Confidence is not about being unwaveringly self-assured all the time, but rather, embracing both self-doubt and confidence.
The decision to have children is personal and can change over time.
Motherhood is a journey that evolves and improves.
You can connect with own wants and needs by taking small steps to honor them.
You shouldn’t let the fear of disappointing others dictate your decisions.

— and a host of other topics related to Renae’s decision to become a mom. As mentioned in the show: Learn more about Renae and her work at www.renaesaager.com. Tune into Renee's podcast, The Ballsy Broadcast, here: www.renaesaager.com/podcast Get Renae's Three Strategies to Stop Binge/Emotional Eating: https://fabulous-leader-5694.ck.page/bd4c0944da Find Renee on Instagram: www.instagram.com/renaesaager About Renae Saager: Renae Saager is a certified health and life coach specializing in emotional eating and mind management, offering go-getter women the tools to conquer food and anxiety issues with confidence. Leveraging her own recovery from disordered eating and self doubt, Renae delivers a no-nonsense approach to break the emotional chains of eating, promoting a solid sense of self-worth and clarity. Her coaching is a blend of humor and actionable strategies, ensuring that transformation is not only successful but sustainable. ___ Get my free Kids or Childfree Response Guide: www.kidsorchildfree.com/responseguide And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

6. Keltie Maguire on My Childfree Story (Part 2)

3 februari 2024 | 37 min

5. Keltie Maguire on My Childfree Story (Part 1)

31 januari 2024 | 27 min

4. Janel Forsythe on Finding Joy in Indecision

24 januari 2024 | 55 min

3. Leslie Schrock on The Fertility Rules You Can't Ignore

17 januari 2024 | 62 min

Fertility Rules author, Leslie Schrock, joins Keltie for a discussion on reproductive health, fertility, and her personal experience of becoming a mom. Their conversation touches on:

Common misconceptions and fertility myths
The importance of understanding the impact of age on fertility, as well as the importance of fertility testing and preservation
Egg freezing and embryo freezing and what you need to know about them
Why both partners should be tested and involved in the fertility journey
The need to listen to one's body and to consider long-term goals when deciding whether or not to have children
The challenges and realities of parenthood, and the importance of shared vision and communication between partners

As mentioned in the show: Learn more about Leslie and her work online at www.leslieschrock.com.

Find Leslie on social media:

Instagram: www.instagram.com/leslieschrock X (Twitter): www.twitter.com/lesliejz

Order Leslie’s books: Bumpin’: The Modern Guide to Pregnancy: Navigating the Wild, Weird, and Wonderful Journey From Conception Through Birth and Beyond Fertility Rules: The Definitive Guide to Male and Female Reproductive Health

About Leslie Schrock Leslie Schrock is an author and angel investor working at the convergence of health and technology. Her breakout hit, Bumpin': The Modern Guide to Pregnancy mixes the latest clinical research with practical advice for working families. Her second book, Fertility Rules (starred review from Booklist), takes the same approach for male and female fertility. Leslie is also an advisor to Maven, Alife, Origin, Oath, and Reverence, on Gameto’s bioethics board, and the board of advisors at the Moody School of Communication at her alma mater, The University of Texas at Austin.

She was named one of Fast Company’s Most Creative People in Business, and her work has been featured on CNBC, NPR, Time, GQ, Fortune, Entrepreneur, Wired, The Economist, and The New York Times. Connect with Leslie at LeslieSchrock.com, on Instagram, or read her Substack.

— Join an upcoming Kids or Childfree Workshop: www.kidsorchildfree.com/workshop And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

2. Jennifer Hofmann on The Freedom of Being Childfree

17 januari 2024 | 58 min

Keltie and this episode’s guest, Jennifer Hofmann, discuss Jennifer's decision to be childfree, the factors that influenced her choice, and the freedoms it has afforded her. You’ll hear about:

The complexity of decision-making and the emotions that can arise, such as regret and grief
Jennifer’s experiences with societal pressure and family expectations, as well as her strategies for navigating questions about having kids
Dealing with the guilt of disappointing others
The benefits of being childfree, including the freedom to pursue personal growth and make a difference in the world
Jennifer’s views on legacy and fulfillment, including her personal journey of discovering her purpose and the impact she is making through her work

— and how being childfree doesn’t limit one's ability to create a meaningful and fulfilling life.

As mentioned in the show: Learn more about Jennifer Hofmann and Americans of Conscience: www.jenniferhofmann.com

www.americansofconscience.com

Find Jennifer on social media: Instagram: www.instagram.com/inspiredjen

X (Twitter): www.twitter.com/inspiredjen

Facebook Get Jennifer's values worksheet: https://bit.ly/jhofmann-values-worksheet About Jennifer Hofmann: As the founder and executive director of Americans of Conscience Checklist, Jennifer Hofmann leads a dedicated team of nearly 30 volunteers who together empower Americans to engage in advocacy for equality and democracy. This mission was sparked by the desire to cut through through post-2016 election chaos, providing concerned Americans with a beacon of hope and meaningful action. Beyond her civic engagement, Jen is an author and blogger. Her upcoming spiritual memoir is about a life-changing, 500-mile-walk across northern Spain. With a passion for making a positive difference and an unwavering belief in the power of community, Jen weaves together the vibrant threads of advocacy and personal discovery, shaping a world where hope and action intersect. __ Get our free Kids or Childfree Book Guide: www.kidsorchildfree.com/bookguide And don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Kids or Childfree Podcast if you love what you’re hearing! Find us online at www.kidsorchildfree.com. Instagram: www.instagram.com/kidsorchildfree TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@kidsorchildfree

1. Desiree Nielsen on The Ups and Downs of Motherhood

17 januari 2024 | 67 min

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18 december 2023 | 3 min

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61. Keltie Maguire on Key Coaching Takeaways During Season 4

60. Gabrielle Salomone on Navigating a Fear of Childbirth

59. Dear Former Fence-Sitter #1 with Amanda E. White, LPC

58. Sina Scheithauer on Answering the Kid Question in Germany and Beyond

57. Carly Church on The First Few Months of Motherhood

56. Ruth Chang on How to Make Hard Choices

55. Tyler Pentland on Becoming a Father Through Surrogacy

54. Florence Wlodarski on Pursuing Parenthood When You're Still on the Fence

53. Sophia Seymour on Freezing Your Eggs When You're on the Fence

52. Dr. Laura Buchinger on Life Satisfaction and The Kids or Childfree Choice

51. Keltie Maguire on The Other Side of a Decision

50. Vasavi Kumar on Finding Your Authentic Voice

49. Dr. Hayley Evers-King on Saying Yes to Parenthood in the Face of Uncertainty

48. Monica Cardenas, PhD on Maternal Ambivalence and Apathy

47. Brooke Froelich Murray on Outdoor Adventure with Kids

46. Keltie Maguire on Key Coaching Takeaways During Season 3

45. Jennifer Flint on The Kids or Childfree Decision as a Spiritual Journey

44. Keltie Maguire on Astrid's Story and Other Thoughts on Motherhood Regret

43. Dr. Jade Sasser on Climate Anxiety and The Kid Question

42. Astrid Hurault de Ligny on When You Regret Becoming a Mom

41. Reena Esmail on Choosing a Creative Childfree Life

40. Becca Rea-Tucker on Abortion and The Kids or Childfree Choice

39. Rose Diell on Being on the Fence About Kids

38. Angela Accomando on Surviving Domestic Abuse with Kids

37. Rachel Honeyman on When Plans Change

36. Keltie Maguire on Navigating FOMO

35. Liz Leedham-Pepin on Becoming a Mom Through Adoption

34. Kate Brightwell on Being Childfree at Work

33. Katie Bryan on Solo Motherhood By Choice

32. Jackie Shannon Hollis on My Childless Love Story

31. Keltie Maguire on Season Two's Top Takeaways

30. Nicole Louie on Others Like Me

29. Merle Bombardieri, MSW, LICSW on Navigating The Baby Decision

28. Alice Greczyn on Grieving the Path Not Chosen

27. Dr. Natasha Ghosh on Finding the Kids or Childfree Answer Within

26. Katy Seppi on Being Childfree Not by Choice

25. Roamaroo's Collette & Scott Stohler on Seeing the World With a Kid

24. Dr. Jay Zigmont, CFP on Childfree Wealth & Legacy

23. Amanda E. White, LPC on Lessons from a Former Fence Sitter

22. Shweta Ramkumar on Choosing Childfree as an Antinatalist

21. Julie McFadden (a.k.a. Hospice Nurse Julie) on Your Kids or Childfree Choice and End of Life

20. Christian Haefele (a.k.a. Keltie's husband) on Choosing Childfree as a Man

19. Julie Lythcott-Haims on Parenting Outside the Overparenting Trap

18. Katherine Ripley, LCSW on How Our Childhood Influences Our Kids or Childfree Decision

17. Marloes De Vries on Making a Conscious Childfree Choice

16. Jane van Dis, M.D. on Having Kids in Today's World

15. Keltie Maguire on Season One's Top Takeaways

14. Kate Kaufmann on Being an Unabashed Childfree Elder

13. Jan Maguire (a.k.a. Keltie's Mom) on Choosing What's Right For You

12. Erica Smith on a Connected Life Without Kids

11. Eleanor Mayrhofer on Becoming a Mom Later in Life

10. Ruby Warrington on Women Without Kids

9. Megan Sales on Stop Romanticizing Motherhood

8. Maria Coffey on Life Instead of Having Kids

7. Renae Saager on From a Hard No to Becoming a Mom

6. Keltie Maguire on My Childfree Story (Part 2)

5. Keltie Maguire on My Childfree Story (Part 1)

4. Janel Forsythe on Finding Joy in Indecision

3. Leslie Schrock on The Fertility Rules You Can't Ignore

2. Jennifer Hofmann on The Freedom of Being Childfree

1. Desiree Nielsen on The Ups and Downs of Motherhood

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