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The New Evangelicals Podcast is here to push the Evangelical Church forward and to re-think how it approaches key cultural issues.
The podcast The New Evangelicals Podcast is created by Tim Whitaker. The podcast and the artwork on this page are embedded on this page using the public podcast feed (RSS).
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In this episode TALKS Episode, Tim discusses the serious allegations against Mike Bickle, founder of the International House of Prayer (IHOP), who has been accused of sexual assault by multiple women. Gracia and Jedidiah, former members of IHOP, share their experiences and insights into the culture of IHOP, the influence of Mike Bickle, and the manipulative tactics used within the community. The episode highlights the complexities of church abuse, the impact on survivors, and the need for accountability and healing within faith communities.
Chapters
06:13 The Allegations Against Mike Bickle and IHOP
11:24 Understanding the International House of Prayer (IHOP)
17:35 Mike Bickle: The Man Behind IHOP
30:07 Prophetic Manipulation and Its Consequences
39:13 Patterns of Abuse in Religious Communities
49:15 Legal Implications and Future Investigations
56:31 Warnings for Church Communities
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim, April, and special guest Janice Lagata discuss the recent Super Bowl, focusing on the halftime performance by Kendrick Lamar. They reflect on the cultural significance of the event, the reactions from various communities, particularly the Christian nationalist perspective, and the broader implications of representation in music. The conversation delves into themes of racism, cultural narratives, and the importance of understanding and appreciating diverse artistic expressions.
Janice's Website | Janicelagata.com
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Chapters
05:51 Kendrick Lamar's Halftime Show Analysis
08:56 Reactions from the Christian Nationalist Community
14:57 The Role of Black Culture in America
23:52 Concluding Thoughts on Cultural Narratives
41:09 Artistic Expression and Cultural Respect
56:25 The War on Public Education
01:20:16 Elon Musk: A Case Study in Accountability
01:36:31 The Complexity of Faith and Politics
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages with Dara Starr Tucker, a musician and radio host, discussing her journey from a Pentecostal upbringing to questioning her faith and navigating the complexities of race and politics within the church. They explore the impact of Trumpism on evangelicalism and the importance of critical thinking in faith. In this conversation, Tim and Dara explore the complexities of racial identity, the intersection of faith and politics, and the rise of Christian nationalism in America.
Dara's Instagram | @daratuckerb
Chapters
03:10 Dara Starr Tucker's Background and Journey
20:29 Navigating Faith and Politics in the Church
31:57 Navigating Identity in a Racialized World
39:24 The Intersection of Faith and Politics
54:44 Building Coalitions for Resistance
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss various topics related to the current state of Christian culture, including the challenges of live streaming, upcoming changes to their show format, and the pressing issue of Christian nationalism. They delve into the recent investigation into Mike Bickle and the International House of Prayer, highlighting the systemic issues of abuse within evangelical spaces. The conversation emphasizes the need for community support and the importance of decoding the complexities of faith and politics in today's society.
Chapters
08:45 Decoding Christian Nationalism
14:43 The Mike Bickle and IHOP Investigation
25:00 The Systemic Issues in Evangelicalism
34:57 Political Implications of Christian Nationalism
40:08 Conclusion and Call to Action
51:10 The Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza
01:00:49 The Role of Christian Nationalism in Politics
01:19:04 Building Coalitions Against Authoritarianism
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In this Talks Episode, immigration lawyer Kate Lincoln-Goldfinch discusses the current state of immigration law, her personal journey in the field, and the complexities surrounding asylum and refugee status. She highlights the rapid changes in immigration policy, the impact of different administrations, and the rhetoric surrounding immigration in the U.S. The discussion emphasizes the need for a more humane and orderly immigration process and the historical context of immigration in America.
Chapters
11:56 Personal Journey and Experiences in Immigration Law
24:00 Understanding Asylum and Refugee Status
37:01 Routine Stops Leading to Deportation: A Broken System
40:50 The Need for Comprehensive Immigration Reform
46:45 Taking Action: Supporting Immigrants in Our Communities
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Chapters
06:49 Understanding Deconstruction: A Path Towards Jesus
15:02 The Complexity of Christian Orthodoxy
20:14 Navigating Political Influences in Faith
30:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism
36:55 Disappointment in Leadership and Idolatry
41:01 The Church's Role in Social Justice
49:58 The Church's Responsibility to the Marginalized
54:10 Finding a Path Forward in Faith
Scott and Tommy's new Book | Invisible Jesus: A Book about Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ
Tommy's Artisit Page | Preson Phillips
Scott's Substack | Scotmcknight.substack.com
Tommy's Substack | Tommypresonphillips.substack.com
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss significant events in Christian culture, including Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde's powerful plea for mercy during a prayer service, the contrasting response from Trump and right-wing figures, and the implications of toxic empathy in today's political climate. They explore the misinterpretation of scripture and the scapegoating of immigrants, ultimately reflecting on the challenges posed by Christian nationalism. In this conversation, Tim and his co-host discuss various topics, including misconceptions about transgender individuals, the influence of radicalization from the church, and the controversial health policies proposed by RFK.
Jessica on Instagram | @Jessicamalatyrivera
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Chapters
03:10 The Launch of the Tim and April Show
09:02 Trump's Response to Bishop Buddy
15:14 The Concept of Toxic Empathy
18:04 Scriptural Contradictions and Misinterpretations
24:02 The Reality of Crime and Immigration
35:34 The Misconceptions of Transgender Individuals in Society
40:12 Radicalization and the Church's Influence
01:11:43 The Importance of Vaccines
01:17:36 The Risks of Vaccine Schedules
01:24:57 Trump's Inconsistent Logic on DEI
01:34:53 The Absence of Empathy in Politics
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In this Urgent Talks Episode, Tim engages with human rights lawyer Qasim Rashid to discuss the alarming rise of fascism in America, particularly in the context of immigration policies under the Trump administration. They explore the historical parallels of white supremacy and immigration, the impact of propaganda on public perception, and the moral responsibilities of faith communities in addressing humanitarian crises.
Qasim's Substack | Let's Address This with Qasim Rashid
Chapters
01:27 The Rise of Fascism in America
04:14 Immigration and White Supremacy
10:51 The Impact of Immigration Policies
17:04 State-Sanctioned Propaganda and Refugee Resettlement
24:07 The Role of Faith in Humanitarianism
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In this TALKS Episode Tim engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Malcolm Foley about his book, 'Anti-Greed Gospel.' They explore the intricate relationship between greed and racism, delving into historical contexts, the implications of racial capitalism, and the biblical perspectives on wealth. The discussion highlights how greed has been a driving force behind systemic racism and social injustices, urging listeners to reconsider their understanding of meritocracy and the role of Christian communities in addressing these issues.
Chapters
01:03 The Anti-Greed Gospel: Overview and Themes
05:00 Historical Context of Greed and Racism
11:13 Lynching: Economic Motivations and Social Control
23:02 Meritocracy: Myths and Realities
29:06 Biblical Perspectives on Wealth and Greed
46:30 The Role of the Church in Society
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In this RESPONDS Episode, Tim engages with Dr. Kevin Carnahan to discuss the concept of deconstruction in faith, particularly in response to Tim Barnett's views. They explore the complexities of defining deconstruction, the challenges of dialogue between differing theological perspectives, and the implications of language used in religious discourse. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of Christianity and the importance of questioning established beliefs while navigating the tensions within evangelicalism. This conversation delves into the complexities of deconstruction, exploring its philosophical roots, its implications for personal beliefs, and the cultural narratives surrounding it.
Kevin's TikTok | @Kevincarnahan2
Chapters
09:01 The Challenge of Dialogue Across Beliefs
17:58 The Language of War in Religious Discourse
21:07 Historical Christianity vs. Modern Evangelicalism
39:09 The Relational Nature of Language
40:04 Understanding Deconstruction: Philosophy vs. Common Use
52:59 The Debate on Objective Truth
59:51 The Organized Movement of Deconstruction
01:04:04 The Role of Social Media in Deconstruction
01:18:58 The Search for Truth and Individual Justification
01:42:04 Authority and Interpretation in Faith
01:56:51 Diversity in Christian Tradition and Deconstruction
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In this Emergency RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss the recent political landscape following the inauguration of Donald Trump. They express their anger and frustration over the events, particularly focusing on the rise of Christian nationalism and the cognitive dissonance within evangelical communities. The conversation delves into the hypocrisy of Christian leaders, the media's role in shaping narratives, and the misinterpretation of biblical teachings to justify political actions. They emphasize the need for clarity and truth in the face of gaslighting and discuss the implications of Trump's policies on society and faith.
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Chapters
04:06 The Inauguration and Its Implications
09:12 Cognitive Dissonance in Christian Nationalism
13:01 Hypocrisy and the Christian Response
20:31 Misinterpretation of Biblical Teachings
24:57 The Impact of Trump's Policies on Society
35:15 Closing Thoughts and Reflections
51:59 The Disconnect Between Faith and Politics
01:09:03 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications
01:22:21 Finding Hope Amidst Political Turmoil
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In this in-person TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with Reverend Otis Moss III, reflecting on the significance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day coinciding with Trump's inauguration. They explore the complexities of race, faith, and the historical struggles of America, particularly focusing on the Black church's liberation tradition and the implications of whiteness in Christianity. The discussion delves into the legacy of MLK, the ongoing fight for racial justice, and the interconnectedness of various movements for freedom and equality.
Rev Otis's Church Page | Trinitychicago.org/rev-dr-otis-moss-iii
Chapters
02:23 Reflections on MLK Day and Trump's Inauguration
12:36 The Intersection of Whiteness and Christianity
20:47 The Legacy of Martin Luther King Jr.
43:07 The Inverse of Division: Embracing Inclusivity
47:40 Historical Roots of Division: Understanding the Past
58:59 Faith and the Journey: Finding Authenticity
01:06:43 Navigating Violence: A Call for Empathy
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In this RECAPS Episode Tim and April discuss various current events, including the potential ban of TikTok in the U.S., the ongoing situation in Gaza and the recent ceasefire announcement, and the interpretation of natural disasters as divine punishment in relation to the recent fires in Los Angeles. They explore the implications of these events from a Christian perspective, emphasizing the need for compassion and understanding in the face of complex issues. In this conversation, Tim discusses the intersection of faith and politics, particularly focusing on the rise of Christian nationalism and its implications for society.
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Chapters
08:01 The TikTok Ban Debate
21:49 Ceasefire in Gaza: A Complex Situation
32:56 God's Wrath and the LA Fires
51:23 The Rise of Christian Nationalism
01:02:13 Misogyny in Leadership: The Case of Pete Hegseth
01:14:05 The Intersection of Faith and Politics
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a deep conversation with Pete Enns and Liz Charlotte Grant about the complexities of the Bible, especially in the context of deconstruction and progressive Christianity. They explore the authority of scripture, the challenges of finding a moral framework in a complicated world, and the historical context of biblical inerrancy. The discussion emphasizes the need for a nuanced understanding of the Bible as a collection of stories and wisdom rather than a strict manual for life. In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of spiritual agency, the dialogue of theology, and the merging of artistic and scholarly perspectives in biblical interpretation.
Pete's Website | The Bible For Normal People
Chapters
01:03 Exploring the Bible After Deconstruction
09:50 The Authority of Scripture in Progressive Christianity
20:05 Navigating Moral Frameworks in a Complex World
30:14 Understanding Inerrancy and Its Historical Context
36:49 The Dialogue of Theology
41:48 Merging Perspectives: Art and Scholarship
51:22 Themes of Justice and Love
01:01:04 Building New Ecosystems of Media
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim and April discuss the recent events surrounding January 6th, the implications of Christian nationalism, and the role of social media in shaping public discourse. They reflect on the historical significance of the Capitol riots, the influence of misinformation, and the recent changes in social media policies under Mark Zuckerberg. The conversation emphasizes the need for accountability within evangelical communities and critiques the normalization of extremist ideologies.
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Chapters
05:05 Reflections on January 6th and Its Implications
20:05 The Role of Christian Nationalism in January 6th
30:03 The Influence of Social Media and Misinformation
44:32 The Discourse on Transgender Issues
55:00 Global Censorship and Corporate Responsibility
01:08:23 Critique of Christian Nationalism
01:26:37 Personal Stories and Reflections
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In this In-Studio TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a deep conversation with Dr. Matthew Taylor, a scholar of Christian nationalism. They explore the implications of Christian nationalism in the context of the 2024 election, the nature of populism, and the dangers posed by populist authoritarianism. Dr. Taylor shares insights on the role of evangelicalism in supporting Trump and the potential threats to democracy posed by a second Trump administration. The discussion also touches on the historical parallels with authoritarian regimes and the importance of understanding the dynamics of leadership within the Christian nationalist movement.
Matthew's Faculty Page | Matthew D Taylor
Matthew on Twitter | @Taylormatthewd
Chapters
06:27 Scholarly Insights on Christian Nationalism
11:34 The Role of Christian Nationalism in the 2024 Election
25:54 The Dangers of Populist Authoritarianism
36:49 Concerns for the Future Under Trump
49:33 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications
54:43 The Three Prongs of Christian Nationalism
01:18:27 The Future of the Church and Resistance
01:27:35 Constructing a New Theology for the Future
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In the first TALKS Episode of 2025, Tim candidly converses with historian Jemar Tisby about the complexities of remaining in or leaving white evangelical churches. They explore the historical context of race and religion, the structural issues within evangelicalism, and the implications of Christian nationalism. The discussion also touches on personal journeys of faith, the challenges of navigating community ties, and the importance of discerning one's place within these church systems. In this conversation, Tim and Jemar explore the complexities of institutional change within the white evangelical church, emphasizing the need for systemic repentance and the potential for a mass exodus from these spaces.
Jemar's Website | Jemartisby.com
Jemar's Substack | Jemartisby.substack.com
Chapters
04:00 Meet Jemar Tisby: Historian and Author
08:46 The Dilemma: Stay or Leave the Church?
13:00 Understanding the Structural Issues in White Evangelicalism
24:13 The Religion of Whiteness: A Sociological Perspective
35:54 Leaving Loudly vs. Quiet Exodus: A Personal Reflection
39:39 Navigating Institutional Change
46:13 The Need for a Mass Exodus
54:10 The Impact of Political Dynamics on Faith
01:10:42 Practical Steps for Engaging with Marginalized Communities
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April reflect on the New Year, share personal experiences, and discuss significant events in Christian culture, including the passing of President Jimmy Carter. They express concerns about the political climate, particularly the rise of Christian nationalism and its implications for the future. The conversation critiques prominent figures in the Christian nationalist movement and examines the ongoing conflicts within the MAGA community. The conversation delves into the complexities of immigration policy, particularly the H-1B visa program, and its implications for America's competitive edge in technology.
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Chapters
01:07 Reflections on New Year's and Personal Experiences
06:03 Concerns About the Future and Political Climate
10:10 The Legacy of Jimmy Carter
19:46 The Ongoing Civil War in MAGA Politics
42:54 The Divide in Trump's Support Base
50:00 Cognitive Dissonance in Right-Wing Ideology
59:51 The Narrative of Crime and Immigration
01:09:56 The Call for Accountability in Faith Communities
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In this RECAPS Episode Tim reflects on the journey of The New Evangelicals over the past year, expressing gratitude for the community's support and sharing significant growth metrics. He discusses personal and organizational developments, including team expansion and new content strategies, while addressing the challenges ahead in the context of rising Christian nationalism. Tim emphasizes the importance of community engagement and outlines plans for 2025, aiming to provide a better path forward in faith rooted in justice and inclusivity.
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages with scholars Dr. Sergio Gonzalez and Dr. Lloyd Barba to discuss the Sanctuary Movement and its historical and contemporary significance in the context of immigration. They explore the Christian obligation to welcome immigrants, the political dynamics surrounding immigration policy, and the importance of recognizing the humanity of immigrants amidst prevalent anti-immigrant narratives. The conversation highlights the ongoing relevance of the Sanctuary Movement and the need for a compassionate response to those seeking refuge.
Chapters
02:22 Meet the Scholars: Sergio Gonzalez and Lloyd Barba
08:28 Understanding the Sanctuary Movement
15:33 The Ongoing Relevance of the Sanctuary Movement
27:24 Human Dignity and the Immigrant Experience
35:21 The Role of Propaganda in Immigration Narratives
40:22 The Vicious Cycle of Undocumented Labor
46:35 Sanctuary Movement: Protecting Immigrants
52:12 Speculations on Future Immigration Policies
Lloyd & Sergio's Podcast | Sanctuary: On the Border Between Church and State
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss various themes surrounding the current state of Christian culture, including personal reflections on the holidays, the challenges of navigating social media, and the complexities of parenting in a world filled with misinformation. They delve into the significance of Christmas and the impact of evangelicalism on personal faith, while also announcing exciting changes for the New Evangelicals organization. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the controversial topics of flat earth theories and the political implications surrounding figures like Matt Gaetz.
Chapters
04:22 Navigating Social Media and Misinformation
10:23 The Santa Claus Dilemma: Parenting Perspectives
13:09 Reclaiming the Meaning of Christmas
20:30 Insights from America Fest: A Christian Nationalist Gathering
30:59 The Disconnect Between Wealth and Reality
40:10 The Focus on Marginalized Groups in Political Discourse
45:50 The Flat Earth Debate and Its Proponents
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages with Rev Darrell Hamilton to explore the significance of Christmas through the lens of the Black Christian tradition. They discuss the rich history of churches in New England, the implications of the virgin birth, and the contrasting understandings of Jesus and the Christ. The conversation emphasizes the gospel's message for marginalized communities and the importance of reclaiming the spiritual meaning of Christmas amidst consumerism. In this conversation, Tim and his guest explore the themes of justice, responsibility, and the role of faith in addressing societal issues.
Darrell's Instagram | @blackandeducatedpreacher
02:52 Exploring Christmas Through the Black Christian Tradition
10:50 The Significance of the Virgin Birth
19:19 The Gospel's Message for the Marginalized
24:12 Reclaiming the Spiritual Meaning of Christmas
26:32 The Call for Justice and Responsibility
32:43 Navigating the Tension of Violence and Nonviolence
42:12 Making Room for Jesus in Our Lives
50:50 Listening and Learning in Solidarity
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In this episode, Tim discusses his upcoming attendance at America Fest, a significant right-wing political event, to understand the narratives and power dynamics shaping evangelical culture. He reflects on the influence of right-wing media, the birth of the New Evangelicals as a response to harmful narratives, and his personal journey through the evangelical landscape, particularly after witnessing the events of January 6th. Tim emphasizes the need for a grassroots movement that promotes love and justice, urging listeners to support their mission.
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with Joash Thomas, an international speaker and theologian. They explore themes of decolonization, the impact of colonization on theology, and the cultural shock experienced by Joash as he transitioned from the Global South to the American evangelical context. The discussion delves into the importance of justice in the gospel, the role of empathy in changing perspectives, and the challenges posed by rising Christian nationalism in contemporary politics.
Joash on X | @joashpthomas
Joash's Substack | Jesus, Justice and Joash
Chapters
03:07 Decolonization and Its Impact on Theology
05:52 Cultural Shock: Global South vs. American Evangelicalism
11:55 Justice and the Gospel: A Global Perspective
15:09 The Role of Empathy in Changing Perspectives
25:50 Navigating Political Power and Nonviolence
37:30 The Impact of Misinformation on Voting Behavior
49:36 Building Community Through Resource Sharing
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April delve into the implications of TikTok's data privacy concerns, the mystery of drones flying over New Jersey, and the recent United Healthcare CEO shooting. The conversation culminates in a debate about Christian nationalism, exploring its potential impact on society and marginalized communities. They discuss the moral dilemmas faced by Christians in the wake of violence, the systemic issues within the healthcare industry, and the broader political polarization that has emerged.
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Chapters
03:58 Personal Anecdotes and Holiday Preparations
08:12 New Segment: Ho Ho Holy Shit - Cringe Stories
17:00 Mysterious Drones Over New Jersey
23:04 Stowaway on a Flight to Paris
39:21 The Murder of Brian Thompson: A Complex Narrative
46:32 The Healthcare System: A Call for Justice
01:10:54 Rupert Murdoch's Legacy: A Shift in Media Control
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim interviews Amy Hawk, author of 'The Judas Effect: How Evangelicals Betrayed Jesus for Power.' They discuss Amy's personal journey into evangelicalism, the impact of Donald Trump on evangelical beliefs, and the challenges of navigating faith in a politically charged environment. Amy shares her insights on false leadership within the church and the need for humility and reflection among believers. The conversation emphasizes the importance of authentic Christianity and the hope for a future where evangelicalism can reclaim its core values.
Amy's Website | Amyhawk.com
Amy's Book | The Judas Effect: How Evangelicals Betrayed Jesus for Power
E. Randolph Richards's Book | Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes: Removing Cultural Blinders to Better Understand the Bible
Chapters
01:51 Amy's Journey into Evangelicalism
06:05 The Impact of Trump on Evangelical Beliefs
11:49 The Role of Family and Community in Faith
23:56 The Nature of False Leadership
29:45 The Call for Humility and Reflection
36:09 Hope for the Future of Evangelicalism
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss the concept of deconstruction within the church, share cringy church confessions, and reflect on the recent tragic shooting of a healthcare CEO, linking it to broader systemic issues in the healthcare industry. In this conversation, Tim discusses the alarming changes in healthcare policies, particularly regarding anesthesia coverage, and the resulting impact on patients and medical debt. He expresses frustration with the healthcare system's inefficiencies and the burden of medical debt on families. The discussion shifts to political hypocrisy surrounding President Biden's pardoning of Hunter Biden, highlighting the media's focus on this issue over more pressing matters. The conversation also delves into the controversies surrounding Pete Hegseth, including allegations of mistreatment of women and his connections to extremist ideologies.
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Chapters
02:30 Personal Updates and Holiday Reflections
12:50 Cringy Church Confessions and Community Engagement
29:13 Healthcare CEO Shooting and Systemic Issues
32:03 Healthcare System Crisis: Anesthesia Coverage Changes
42:49 Political Hypocrisy: Biden's Pardoning of Hunter Biden
53:03 Controversies Surrounding Pete Hegseth
01:05:09 The Divide in Evangelicalism: Race and Theology
01:11:15 Joni Lamb and Daystar Ministries: A PR Perspective
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Jon Cooper from Counterpoint Politics. They explore the dynamics of leftist politics, the role of government in public health, and the challenges of messaging in a polarized political landscape. Jon shares insights on the importance of building coalitions and addressing economic inequality, while Tim reflects on the need for a more inclusive and effective Democratic messaging strategy. Together, they discuss the potential for finding common ground across political divides and the future of leftist politics in America. In this conversation, Tim discusses the evolving landscape of political campaigning, emphasizing the need for parties to connect with their bases rather than solely appealing to the center.
Jon on TikTok | @Counterpointpolitics
Jon's Linktree | Counterpointpolitics
Jon's YouTube Channel | The Left Wing
Chapters
06:14 Understanding Leftism vs. Democratic Politics
11:56 Navigating Economic Inequality and Corporate Responsibility
17:57 Finding Common Ground Across Political Divides
23:55 The Future of Leftist Politics and Media
35:53 The Role of Messaging in Political Success
39:10 The Impact of Media on Public Perception
49:55 Embracing Populism and Inclusivity in Politics
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In this RECAPS Episode Tim and April recap the latest happenings in Christian culture, featuring guests King James and Jen from Fundy Fridays. They discuss their unique backgrounds, navigating family dynamics during the holidays, the role of billionaires in society, concerns about political leadership, the complexities of American identity, and the impact of Christian nationalism. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these themes in the current socio-political landscape. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of Christian nationalism, the personal journeys of individuals within the New Evangelicals movement, and the unfolding controversy surrounding Daystar Television Network.
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Chapters
01:10 Meet the Fundy Friends
06:14 Navigating Family Dynamics During Holidays
19:09 Understanding American Identity
36:05 Mainstream Media and Christian Nationalism
37:29 The Rise of Christian Nationalism
40:51 Unpacking the Daystar Controversy
01:02:31 The Future of Evangelicalism and Accountability
01:18:27 The Struggles of Faith and Family
01:27:17 Responses and Accountability
01:49:44 Community Engagement and Future Plans
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim speaks with Hollywood producer Todd Komarnicki about his new film, Bonhoeffer. They discuss the cultural relevance of the film, Todd's journey in filmmaking, and his views on faith and Christian nationalism. Todd shares his personal experiences with faith, the challenges of navigating love and justice in today's society, and the importance of understanding Bonhoeffer's true legacy in the face of misinterpretation by some factions of Christianity. In this conversation, Tim discusses the importance of love and engagement in addressing societal divisions, emphasizing the need for compassion and understanding in political discourse.
Bonhoeffer Film | angel.com/movies/bonhoeffer
Chapters
02:22 Meet Todd Komarnicki: Hollywood Producer and Director
04:13 The Making of Bonhoeffer: A Personal Journey
08:49 Faith Background and Views on Evangelicalism
10:30 Christian Nationalism vs. True Christianity
16:55 The Power of Love in Resistance
23:20 Navigating Love and Justice in Today's Culture
42:06 The Role of Leadership and Authority
55:09 The Art of Filmmaking: Behind the Scenes
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss various themes ranging from the absurdities of current Christian culture to the implications of extraterrestrial life on theology. They explore the concept of aliens, share satirical takes on missionary work aimed at Christian nationalists, and highlight the importance of representation in Congress. The conversation also delves into the need for dignity and respect in political discourse, particularly in light of recent events surrounding transgender representation. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the implications of Christian nationalism, the politics surrounding gender identity, and the ethical considerations of immigration in the context of Christian values. They critique the political rhetoric that targets marginalized groups, particularly trans individuals, while highlighting the hypocrisy of those in power who fail to address more pressing societal issues.
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Chapters
03:09 Exploring the Concept of Aliens and UAPs
08:55 Theological Implications of Extraterrestrial Life
12:04 Satirical Missionary Work to Christian Nationalists
23:07 Discussion on Dignity and Respect in Politics
39:02 The Politics of Gender and Identity
52:59 Immigration and the Christian Ethic
01:05:42 Denaturalization and Its Consequences
01:14:54 Marjorie Taylor Greene's Controversial Tweet
01:21:59 The Dangers of Anti-Intellectualism
01:29:28 Navigating Conversations with Trump Voters
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with Miche Van Essen, a trans woman and advocate, about the intersection of faith, politics, and the transgender experience. They discuss the implications of the political landscape for trans rights, the importance of visibility, and the challenges faced by the trans community in the coming years. Miche shares her personal journey and the life-saving nature of transitioning, while also addressing the misconceptions surrounding trans identities. The conversation emphasizes the need for solidarity, support, and proactive measures to ensure the safety and well-being of trans individuals.
Transmission Ministry Collective | transmissionministry.com
Miche on Instagram | @michevanessen
Chapters
04:29 The Importance of Trans Visibility and Advocacy
08:58 Navigating Faith as a Trans Person
11:47 Political Landscape and Its Impact on Trans Rights
15:08 The Complexity of Political Allegiances
25:31 The Life-Saving Nature of Transitioning
35:56 Bridging Divides in a Polarized Society
47:11 Future Goals and Challenges for TMC
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In this TALKS Episode Tim engages with Matthew J. DiStefano, author of 'Heretic, Too!', exploring themes of theology, church experiences, and the concept of heresy. They discuss DiStefano's journey from conservative evangelicalism to a more progressive theology, including his views on Christian Universalism and the importance of dialogue in understanding faith. He discusses the challenges of navigating certainty and uncertainty in belief systems, the importance of personal experience in understanding faith, and the need for self-love and acceptance, especially for those in the LGBTQ community.
Matthew's Website | allsetfree.com
Matthew's New Book | Heretic, Too!
Matthew's Podcast | Heretic Happy Hour
Highlights:
01:05 Exploring Matthew Destefano's Journey and Works
06:08 The Concept of Heresy in Modern Theology
08:00 Understanding Christian Universalism
16:05 Navigating Reactions to Church Experiences
22:09 The Power and Meaning of the Term 'Heretic'
35:45 Finding a Path Forward in Faith
41:52 Redefining Jesus and the Christian Tradition
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In this RECAPS episode Tim and April discuss various topics ranging from personal anecdotes about family dynamics and travel experiences to significant political commentary on Trump's cabinet picks. In this conversation, Tim discusses the importance of accountability in politics, the influence of media on elections, and the complex relationship between faith and politics. Amidst the chaos of current governance, Tim emphasizes the need for hope and community engagement to navigate the challenges ahead.
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Highlights:
01:10 Personal Anecdotes and Family Dynamics
04:44 Travel Tales and Family Adventures
19:57 Trump's Cabinet Picks and Political Commentary
44:22 The Influence of Media on Elections
55:13 The Role of Extremism in Politics
01:12:28 Hope Amidst Political Turmoil
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In this TALKS episode, Tim reconnects with Dr. Camden Morgante to discuss her book 'Recovering from Purity Culture.' They explore the definition and impact of purity culture, the myths surrounding it, and how individuals can reconstruct their sexual ethics while overcoming shame. The conversation emphasizes the importance of personal values, consent, and the unique experiences of different genders within the context of purity culture.
Camden's New Book | Recovering from Purity Culture
Camden's Website | drcamden.com
Episode 7 with Camden | Purity Culture and Bad Sex with Dr. Camden Morgante
Follow Dr. Camden on Instagram | @DrCamden
Highlights:
02:46 Understanding Purity Culture
07:03 The Impact of Purity Culture on Faith
10:39 Navigating Sexual Ethics
18:10 The Gendered Effects of Purity Culture
23:14 Debunking Myths of Purity Culture
39:02 Overcoming Shame from Purity Culture
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim and April discuss the recent election results, reflecting on the surprising outcomes and the factors that contributed to them. They delve into the influence of right-wing media, the economic struggles faced by many voters, and the role of Christian nationalism in shaping political views. The conversation emphasizes the need for a new political approach that addresses the needs of the people and promotes equity and human flourishing.
Highlights:
02:00 Reflections on the Recent Election Results
05:51 Understanding the Role of Right-Wing Media
12:09 The Impact of Economic Struggles on Voter Behavior
37:26 Political Accountability and Blame
52:43 Resistance and Nonviolent Action
56:51 Building a Movement for Change
01:01:40 Hope Amidst Despair
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Chapters
01:02 Exploring Racial Solidarity in the Church
04:13 Hari Han's Background and Journey
09:54 The Role of Megachurches in Social Change
17:48 Mobilization for the Common Good
27:55 Navigating Christian Nationalism and Hope
33:37 Demand vs. Supply Side Problems in Faith Communities
40:36 The Role of Faith Institutions in Social Change
47:14 Navigating Political Choices in a Flawed System
55:20 The Importance of Micro Conversations for Change
Hahrie's Book | Undivided: The Quest for Racial Solidarity in an American Church
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In this RECAPS episode Tim, April and Andrew discuss the current state of Christian nationalism, the upcoming election, and the anxiety surrounding it. They share personal anecdotes, and delve into the implications of political rhetoric and the importance of community resilience. The conversation highlights the need for hope amidst political turmoil and the role of humor in political discourse, while also critiquing the responses from right-wing figures and the ethical implications of political leaders' actions. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the complexities of political rhetoric, particularly focusing on the MAGA movement's response to President Biden's comments. They explore the themes of dehumanization in political discourse, the rise of Christian nationalism, and the implications of authoritarianism in contemporary politics.
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Highlights
01:14 Personal Anecdotes and Technical Difficulties
04:04 Election Anxiety and Early Voting Trends
10:03 Hope Amidst Political Turmoil
12:00 Community Resilience Against Division
13:54 The Impact of Voting and Political Identity
17:47 The Role of Humor in Political Discourse
27:45 Biden's Response to Political Rhetoric
36:14 The Irony of Political Rhetoric
49:15 The Overlap of Christian Nationalism and Authoritarian Views
01:02:00 Finding Hope and Agency in Uncertain Times
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In this RESPONSE Episode, Tim reflects on the implications of Trump's recent rally and the broader context of the upcoming election. He discusses the anxiety many feel regarding the current political climate, particularly within the evangelical community. Tim explores the troubling shift in white evangelicalism, the concept of truth in the context of the MAGA movement, and the ethical responsibilities of Christians in political engagement. He emphasizes the importance of love, justice, and inclusivity in navigating these complex issues.
Highlights
00:34 Reflections on Trump's Rally and Election Anxiety
07:13 The Shift in White Evangelicalism
12:40 Truth and the Evangelical Right
20:02 The Ethical Obligation of Christians in Politics
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In this TALKS episode, Tim engages in a candid conversation with Andrew Seidel about the complexities of masculinity, particularly in the context of toxic masculinity and its implications for men today. They explore the crisis of masculinity, the impact of societal expectations, and the contrasting representations of masculinity in contemporary politics. They discuss the alarming trends in young men's political affiliations and the rise of toxic masculinity, while advocating for a healthier, more supportive approach to masculinity that benefits both men and society as a whole.
Andrew's Website | andrewlseidel.com
Chapters
01:00 Exploring Toxic Masculinity
22:51 Competing Versions of Masculinity in Politics
31:22 The Algorithm's Influence on Masculinity
38:30 Insecurity and Control in Masculine Identity
42:44 Lessons from Personal Experiences
52:05 Navigating Healthy Masculinity
56:19 The Quest for Emotional Fulfillment
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss the overwhelming fatigue surrounding the upcoming election, the influence of MAGA on white evangelicals, and the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Palestine. They share personal stories of political engagement and the importance of community, while also addressing the inclusivity of recent theological discussions. The episode culminates in a deep dive into a controversial incident involving Kamala Harris at a rally, exploring the nuances of the situation and the reactions from right-wing media. In this conversation, Tim discusses the complexities of Christian nationalism, the narratives surrounding abortion, and the perceived persecution of Christians in America. He critiques the actions of individuals who claim to be persecuted while engaging in disruptive protests, and he explores the influence of ultra-traditional Catholicism on contemporary political discourse.
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Chapters
02:45 Election Fatigue and the MAGA Movement
06:10 Personal Stories and Political Engagement
11:56 The Importance of Community and Connection
17:48 Response to Mean Tweets and Online Criticism
40:38 The Role of Ultra-Traditional Catholicism
50:56 The Politics of Power and Control
01:01:51 Christian Nationalism vs. Inclusive Christianity
01:11:56 Exploring Humor in Serious Converstions
01:15:06 Political Perspectives on Abortion
01:25:50 Tucker Carlson's Controversial Analogies
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In this RECAPS Episode, Tim shares a personal update about his life, including the challenges faced while his partner was sick and the impact on their family. He reflects on his experience at Theology Beer Camp, highlighting the sense of community and the importance of diverse voices in theological discussions. Tim also discusses the future of the podcast and content strategy, considering how to balance quality and quantity while maintaining a connection with the audience.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Personal Update
07:23 Theology Beer Camp Experience
12:07 Reflections on Community and Diversity
18:17 Content Strategy and Future Plans
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a profound conversation with David Gushee about his new book, The Moral Teachings of Jesus. They explore the essence of Jesus' teachings on various topics that impact our society today.
David's Website | davidpgushee.com
David's New Book | The Moral Teachings of Jesus
Chapters
02:21 Exploring the Moral Teachings of Jesus
05:07 The Purpose Behind Writing the Book
09:17 Target Audience and Accessibility of the Book
11:38 Understanding Enemy Love in Jesus' Teachings
27:48 Jesus and Economic Justice
39:29 The Teachings of Jesus on Sex and Relationships
52:32 The Importance of Truth in Christianity
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In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a candid conversation with Ben Cremer about the challenges of content creation, the influence of money in media, and the struggle to counteract hate in the current socio-political climate. They discuss the complexities of finding common ground with extreme ideologies, the cynicism surrounding white evangelicalism, and the need for grassroots change. The conversation highlights the distinction between a political movement and a genuine Christian movement, emphasizing the importance of addressing the heart of the issues at hand. In this conversation, Tim and Ben explore the intersection of Christianity and politics, particularly how political movements have co-opted Christian identity for their own agendas. They discuss the historical context of anti-immigrant sentiment within evangelicalism, the shift in immigration policy, and the implications of legalism versus the gospel.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast
03:52 The Influence of Money in Media
18:33 Finding Common Ground in Extremism
25:52 Cynicism Towards White Evangelicalism
35:26 Political Movement vs. Christian Movement
41:07 Historical Context of Anti-Immigrant Sentiment
55:30 Legalism vs. Gospel: A Call for Accountability
01:01:39 Reimagining Christian Identity in Modern America
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Ben on X | @Brcremer
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various pressing issues within the Christian culture, including the impact of climate change, the role of gender in media, and the political implications of evangelical beliefs. They reflect on personal accountability in discourse, the consequences of rapture theology on environmentalism, and the recent financial fraud allegations against Gateway Church. The conversation also critiques the intertwining of politics and theology in contemporary sermons, particularly those promoting Christian nationalism. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the historical context of abortion and the shifting rhetoric of evangelicalism, particularly in relation to political messaging and Christian nationalism. They discuss the implications of these shifts on public education, the misunderstanding of gender and sexuality, and the role of figures like Trump in promoting a Christian nationalist agenda. The conversation culminates in a call to action for listeners to engage politically and vote against the rising tide of Christian nationalism.
Chapters
03:11 Current Events in Christian Culture
06:07 Repentance and Accountability in Discourse
09:59 Hurricanes and Climate Change Conspiracies
14:46 The Impact of Rapture Theology on Environmentalism
25:11 Financial Fraud Allegations Against Gateway Church
30:04 Political Sermons and Christian Nationalism
47:56 Historical Context of Abortion and Evangelicalism
53:34 Decoding Political Messaging in Christianity
59:11 Trump and Christian Nationalism
01:10:49 The Threat of Christian Nationalism in Schools
01:24:29 The Call to Action: Voting Against Christian Nationalism
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim reflects on the first anniversary of the Hamas attacks on Israel, discussing the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict with guests Kevin Carnahan and Daniel Bonora. The conversation delves into the historical context of the conflict, the impact of media narratives, and the personal stories of those affected by the violence. The guests emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives, particularly from Palestinian voices, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding violence and retaliation. They also discuss the political implications of U.S. support for Israel and the need for Christians to engage in justice and mercy for all people involved in the conflict.
Chapters
01:02 Reflecting on the First Anniversary of the Hamas Attacks
04:09 Understanding the Historical Context of the Israel-Palestine Conflict
10:10 Perspectives from Palestinian Voices
14:50 The Role of Media and Western Narratives
19:58 The Human Cost of Conflict: Personal Stories
29:47 Political Implications and the Role of the U.S.
37:04 The Future of the Israel-Palestine Conflict
52:07 Final Thoughts and Reflections
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Daniel Bannoura's Website | danielbannoura.com
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TNE Episode 178 with Daniel | Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt. 3: A Palestinian Speaks
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In this conversation, Tim and Blake Chastain discuss the origins and implications of the exvangelical movement, exploring how American Christianity has radicalized over the years. They delve into the role of social media in facilitating deconstruction, the historical context of evangelicalism, and the intersection of race and faith.
Chapters
03:08 The Origins of Exvangelical Movement
05:53 The Role of Social Media in Deconstruction
09:14 Historical Context of American Christianity
12:04 The Radicalization of American Christianity
14:59 The Intersection of Race and Evangelicalism
17:49 The Conservative Resurgence in the SBC
21:09 Defining Evangelicalism and Fundamentalism
24:00 The Future of Exvangelicalism
27:13 Personal Reflections on Faith and Identity
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various current events affecting Christian culture, including Melania Trump's recent statements on abortion rights, the hypocrisy of pro-life advocates, and the implications of immigration policies. They also delve into the controversial transformation of Russell Brand from a leftist to a right-wing figure, examining the evangelical response to his actions and the inconsistencies within Christian nationalism. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by moderates in the evangelical community and the broader implications for American democracy.
Chapters
01:05 Current Events in Christian Culture
06:03 April's Book and Personal Updates
11:50 Melania Trump's Abortion Rights Statement
16:59 The Hypocrisy of Pro-Life Advocates
24:00 The Double Standards in Crime and Immigration
30:08 Debate Coverage and Political Commentary
35:02 The Impact of Hurricane Helene
50:10 The Evangelical Response to Russell Brand
59:57 The Inconsistencies of Christian Nationalism
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim critiques John Mark Comer’s views on deconstruction, exploring the complexities and nuances of faith transformation. Tim argues that deconstruction is often mischaracterized and emphasizes the need for understanding the cultural and political contexts that influence faith journeys. He reflects on the legacy of white evangelicalism, its shortcomings, and the importance of advocating for marginalized communities. The conversation highlights personal experiences of deconstruction and the quest for a more inclusive faith.
Chapters
01:02 Getting into John Mark Comer's "Deconstruction"
06:08 Understanding Deconstruction: Perspectives and Mischaracterizations
11:52 The Impact of Cultural and Political Context on Faith
17:58 The Legacy of White Evangelicalism and Its Critique
24:06 Personal Reflections on Deconstruction and Acceptance
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In this TALKS episode, host Tim interviews April Ajoy about her book 'Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding True Faith.' They discuss April's journey from a deeply rooted Christian nationalist background to a more inclusive and empathetic faith. The conversation explores the intersections of theology, politics, and personal experiences, highlighting the challenges of deconstructing fundamentalist beliefs and embracing a more expansive understanding of faith. April shares her personal stories, the impact of her father's death, and the importance of empathy in navigating the complexities of faith and identity.
Chapters
02:54 April's Journey: From Christian Nationalism to True Faith
17:57 The Cracks in Fundamentalism: Personal Stories and Experiences
40:27 Empathy vs. Dogma: Navigating the Christian Landscape
49:20 Conclusion: Understanding Christian Nationalism and Its Impact
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics surrounding Christian nationalism, including the recent execution of Marcellus Williams, the implications of the death penalty, and the disconnect between Christian values and political actions. They also touch on the influence of figures like Franklin Graham and the cultural commentary surrounding the evangelical community's stance on social issues. The conversation highlights the complexities and contradictions within Christian nationalism, emphasizing the need for a more compassionate and just approach to faith and politics.
Chapters
11:47 In-Person Event Recap and Personal Confessions
12:46 Discussion on Marcellus Williams Case
20:04 Christian Nationalism and the Death Penalty
30:12 The Role of Authority in Christian Nationalism
41:32 The Disconnect in Christian Nationalist Values
46:18 Franklin Graham and Political Endorsements
01:01:10 Cultural Commentary on Christian Nationalism
01:36:36 Conclusion and Upcoming Events
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim reflects on his experience at the Test of Faith summit, which focused on defending democracy and countering Christian nationalism. He shares insights from various Christian leaders who advocate for inclusivity, social justice, and a more compassionate interpretation of Christian teachings. Tim contrasts the messages from this summit with those from Christian nationalist events, emphasizing the importance of love, justice, and community in the Christian faith.
Faith & Democracy | faithanddemocracy.net
Test of Faith Summit | testoffaith.org
Episode 204 | America Fest: What You Need to Know
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast
00:34 Experiencing the Test of Faith Summit
06:09 The Power of Progressive Christian Voices
10:19 The Christian Alternative to Nationalism
12:16 Contrasting Christian Nationalism and Democratic Values
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a profound conversation with Latasha Morrison, founder of Be The Bridge. They explore Morrison's journey from her upbringing in a diverse community to her pivotal role in addressing systemic racism within predominantly white evangelical spaces.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast
01:50 Latasha Morrison: A Journey of Bridge Building
04:18 The Role of Diversity in Faith Communities
08:05 Personal Background and the Impact of Evangelicalism
19:41 The Birth of Be The Bridge
26:55 Navigating the Challenges of White Evangelical Spaces
39:12 The Importance of Truth in Racial Conversations
52:10 Hope and Change in Political Landscapes
01:03:21 Practical Steps for White Allies in Racial Justice
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics related to the intersection of Christianity and politics, including Tim's recent experiences in Washington D.C., the impact of political violence, gun control, and the rhetoric surrounding immigration. They also delve into the implications of right-wing extremism, particularly focusing on figures like Laura Loomer and the narratives that fuel anti-immigrant sentiment. The conversation highlights the disconnect between right-wing media narratives and reality, emphasizing the need for accountability and truth in political discourse.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast
02:58 Tim's Experience in Washington D.C.
06:12 The Glory Bus and Vocal Rest
09:01 Tim's Transition from Music to Podcasting
14:57 Gun Control and Political Rhetoric
20:12 The Role of Rhetoric in Political Violence
29:06 Immigration and Anti-Immigrant Sentiment
34:05 The Impact of False Narratives on Communities
42:08 The Role of Deception in Politics
51:06 Tweets of the Week and Cultural Commentary
55:50 Conclusion and Call to Action
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a deep conversation with Tripp Fuller about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, his theological journey, and the misuse of his legacy by modern Christian nationalists. They explore Bonhoeffer's resistance to the Nazi regime, the role of the church during that time, and the implications for today's political climate, particularly in relation to the rise of authoritarianism and the rhetoric of figures like Eric Metaxas. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding history to navigate current challenges in faith and society. In this conversation, Tim and Tripp explore the intersections of culture, politics, and faith, particularly focusing on the role of the church in contemporary society. They discuss the misuse of historical figures like Bonhoeffer in modern evangelical rhetoric, the cultural comparisons made by political figures, and the implications of a persecution complex within white evangelicalism. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of faith that prioritizes love and justice over political power, advocating for a 'religionless Christianity' that aligns with the teachings of Christ.
Highlights:
01:01 Understanding Dietrich Bonhoeffer
12:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism
26:49 The Role of the Church in Nazi Germany
39:08 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Modern Implications
54:56 Eric Metaxas and Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer
01:01:45 Cultural Comparisons and Historical Contexts
01:04:11 The Role of the Church in Society
01:10:52 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Misinterpretations
01:16:28 The Misuse of Historical Analogies
01:25:11 The Persecution Complex in Evangelicalism
01:30:05 The Contradictions of White Evangelicalism
01:35:17 Bonhoeffer's Transformation and the Call to Action
01:40:52 The Invitation to a New Understanding of Faith
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In this episode, Tim interviews Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove, a spiritual writer, preacher, and community cultivator. They discuss how Christians can engage differently in politics and civic engagement, particularly in relation to Christian nationalism.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:19 Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove's Background and Journey
08:01 Realizing the Disconnect Between Faith and Politics
13:00 Rethinking Traditional Christian Narratives
19:14 Understanding the Influence of Propaganda
21:01 Finding Common Ground and Avoiding Demonization
25:07 The Importance of Democracy and the Common Good
27:46 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and Idolatry
34:31 Resisting Christian Nationalism and Building a Better Christianity
42:06 Engaging in Political Advocacy and Voting for the Common Good
52:30 The Poor People's Campaign: Addressing Poverty and Inequality
Jonathan's Website | jonathanwilsonhartgrove.com
Looking to get involved? | poorpeoplescampaign.org
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, hosts Tim and April recap the latest happenings in Christian culture, focusing on the recent debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. They discuss the implications of Christian nationalism in politics, the spread of misinformation, and the role of conspiracies in shaping public opinion. The conversation highlights the importance of fact-checking and the need for accountability within the evangelical community while also calling listeners to engage in the political process and vote.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast
10:01 Debate Recap: Biden vs. Trump
19:54 Kamala Harris vs. Trump: A Night and Day Comparison
30:10 Fact-Checking the Debate: Truth vs. Lies
39:55 The Role of Christian Nationalism in Politics
49:46 Conspiracies and Misinformation in the Right-Wing Sphere
01:00:14 The Impact of Evangelicalism on American Politics
01:10:10 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action
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In this episode, Tim and Dr. Jemar Tisby discuss Dr. Tisby's new book, 'The Spirit of Justice,' which highlights key figures in the black Christian tradition who have pushed the church forward. They also explore the history of racial progress and the patterns of backlash that have occurred throughout history. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding and learning from the black history that is often overlooked or erased. The conversation explores the audacious story of Robert Smalls, a formerly enslaved person who stole a Confederate ship during the Civil War and escaped to freedom. It highlights the importance of political democratic participation for black people, even in the shadow of slavery and the Civil War. The conversation also delves into the themes of deconstruction and decolonization in the context of faith and politics, emphasizing the need to learn from black Christians and center their voices. It concludes with a discussion on the significance of history and the importance of studying racial history in our current cultural moment.
Highlights:
13:45 The Spirit of Justice
21:39 Courage and Resilience in the Face of Injustice
26:27 Uncovering Overlooked Black History
39:31 The Importance of Political Democratic Participation for Black People
45:21 Deconstruction and Decolonization: Learning from Black Christians
55:43 The Myth of Being on the Right Side of History
01:01:03 Principles over Party: Making Informed Political Choices
01:09:24 Taking Ownership of Our Education: Learning About Marginalized Communities
01:13:33 The Significance of History in Understanding Our Current Cultural Moment
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In this episode, Tim interviews James McGrath, a Bible scholar and author of the book Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist. They discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes surrounding John the Baptist and how understanding him better can lead to a better understanding of Jesus.
Highlights
00:00 Introduction and Overview
03:40 The Two Books on John the Baptist
08:12 John the Baptist: An Anti-Establishment Figure
11:56 The Impact and Fame of John the Baptist
26:04 Jesus' Association with John's Movement
28:24 John the Baptist and Jesus: A Shared Movement within Judaism
33:14 Challenging Established Religious Practices: Animal Sacrifice and the Temple
39:38 John's Emphasis on Social and Economic Justice
45:15 Calling for System Change: John's Message of Transformation
50:03 Inclusivity and Expansiveness: A Theme in the Bible and Christian Tradition
James's Book | Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist
Jame's on X | @ReligionProf
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including parenting, gun control, and a lawsuit challenging the Johnson Amendment. They express frustration with the lack of action on gun control and the hypocrisy of some evangelical Christians who advocate for pro-life policies but resist common-sense gun regulations. They also highlight the lawsuit filed by the National Religious Broadcasters and two Baptist churches against the IRS, seeking the ability to endorse political candidates without risking their tax-exempt status. The hosts emphasize the importance of maintaining the separation of church and state and the need for responsible gun ownership. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss two separate topics. First, they talk about James and Bridget Morris, who are starting a new church after James resigned from Gateway Church. They discuss the allegations against James' father, Robert Morris, and the questionable actions of the church. They find her website and discuss the extravagant offerings she provides. Finally, they briefly mention a video they found called the 'Bible Band' and JD Vance's comments on childcare. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the fear-mongering and persecution complex within certain segments of Christianity.
Chapters
23:05 Lawsuit Challenges Johnson Amendment
26:26 Maintaining the Separation of Church and State
31:14 The Need for Responsible Gun Ownership
33:13 Questionable Actions and New Beginnings: The Morris Family and Gateway Church
40:10 Exploiting Faith: The Exorbitant Price of Nicole Crank's Mastermind Course
57:15 Lack of Understanding: JD Vance's Comments on Childcare
01:07:33 Discussion on Fear-Mongering and Persecution Complex
01:10:54 Personal Experiences and Leaving Christian Nationalism
01:12:35 Analysis of Eric Metaxas' Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer
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In this episode, Tim and Sharon McMahon discuss how the U.S. election system works and why third-party candidates struggle to gain traction. They explore the role of the Electoral College, winner-take-all systems, and faithless electors. They also touch on the historical context of the Electoral College and the reasons behind its creation. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the electoral process and its impact on elections. It also delves into the limitations of the Electoral College and the challenges it poses to third-party candidates.
Highlights
04:15 The Need to Understand the U.S. Election System
06:08 The Role of the Electoral College
09:25 Winner-Take-All Systems and Popularity Contests
17:06 The Historical Context of the Electoral College
23:10 Faithless Electors and Their Impact
28:34 The Disparity in Electoral Votes
32:56 The Allocation of Electoral Votes
46:02 Potential Solutions: Proportional Allocation and Ranked Choice Voting
56:43 The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact
59:32 The Need for Structural Changes
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Sharon's Website | sharonmcmahon.com
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PART 1:
In this conversation (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss their journeys of faith and the different paths that led them to their current beliefs. They explore the concept of truth and the role of evangelism in sharing the good news of Jesus. They also touch on the negative aspects of evangelicalism and the need for a more inclusive and loving approach to faith. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss the boundaries and lines drawn in Christian beliefs and practices. They explore the concept of evangelism and the impact of purity culture. Tim shares his perspective on the importance of boundaries and rules in the Christian faith, while also acknowledging the need for reevaluation and renegotiation of these boundaries. They touch on topics such as hell, biblical worldview, and the interpretation of scripture. Tim emphasizes the themes of liberation and the expansion of God's blessing in scripture.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
19:10 Personal Journeys of Faith
25:43 Exploring the Concept of Truth
29:16 Reimagining Evangelism
43:23 Exploring Boundaries and Rules in the Christian Faith
53:31 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and the Erasure of Boundaries
58:13 Navigating Controversial Topics: Sexuality and Gender
01:06:23 Striving for Balance: Advocating for Justice and Respecting Individual Beliefs
01:44:36 Exploring the Sociological Aspects of Marxism
01:53:16 Advocating for Social Justice and Care for Marginalized Groups
02:04:02 The Importance of Loving and Accepting All Individuals
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PART 2:
In part two (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss critical race theory (CRT) and its relevance to the church. Ed explains that he wrote his book, 'Untangling Critical Race Theory,' to provide a more accurate understanding of CRT and its potential benefits for Christians. They discuss the five tenets of CRT, which focus on the ongoing racial disparities and inequalities in American society. They also explore the resistance and politicization of CRT, as well as the need for Christians to engage in conversations about race and justice. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss their views on the white evangelical structures and systems. Tim expresses his belief that these structures are deeply flawed and soaked in racist ideology, and he sees little hope for reforming them. He suggests that the church can move forward by dismantling these structures and rethinking what it means to love God and love your neighbor in community. Ed, on the other hand, acknowledges the flaws in these systems but believes in holding them accountable and working towards a better way forward. He emphasizes the importance of provoking people to see a different way of doing things and planting seeds for change.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Understanding Critical Race Theory
05:32 Challenging Misconceptions
12:29 The Resistance and Politicization
26:09 Engaging in Conversations about Race and Justice
01:05:36 The Flaws of White Evangelical Structures and Systems
01:06:34 Dismantling vs. Holding Accountable: Perspectives on Reform
01:10:24 Provoking Change and Planting Seeds for a Better Way Forward
01:14:15 Rethinking Love for God and Neighbor in Community
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In this RECAPS episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss the link between conspiracy theories and Christian nationalism. They explore the rise of conspiracy theories in white evangelical spaces and the normalization of these theories. They also examine the connection between Christian nationalism and vaccine skepticism, highlighting the role of epistemology and group identity in shaping beliefs. The conversation delves into the challenges of engaging with conspiracy theorists and the impact of media silos. The hosts emphasize the need for critical thinking, openness to new information, and a nuanced understanding of science. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various conspiracy theories and misinformation propagated by Christian nationalists. They highlight the prevalence of conspiratorial thinking within this group and its potential impact on political discourse.
Takeaways
Chapters
01:45 Diving into Conspiracy Theories and Christian Nationalism
08:14 RFK Jr.'s Conspiracy Theories and Vaccine Skepticism
14:14 The Link Between Christian Nationalism and Conspiracy Beliefs
26:20 The Appeal of Conspiracy Theories to Christian Nationalists
31:02 The Intersection of Beliefs: Mark of the Beast and Other Conspiracies
35:14 Navigating Skepticism, Solutions, and Science
38:41 Conspiratorial Thinking in the Christian Nationalist Movement
49:51 Inconsistencies in the Pro-Life Movement
56:09 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Political Discourse
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Tim and April discuss Tim's experience at the Democratic National Convention (DNC) and his observations of the event. Tim shares the challenges he faced in getting to the DNC, including flight cancellations and delays. He also highlights the diversity of the DNC and the presence of various voices and perspectives. However, he expresses disappointment over the lack of Palestinian representation on the stage and the emphasis on the military-industrial complex. Tim also discusses the role of faith at the DNC and the perception that faith voices are not always recognized or valued within the party. He raises concerns about the DNC's understanding of the motivations behind the MAGA movement and the missed opportunity to engage with conservative Christians who are seeking a new political home. The conversation covered various topics, including the presence of Planned Parenthood at the DNC, the need for Democrats to address abortion more effectively, the inclusivity of the New Evangelicals community, the upcoming Theology Beer Camp, the decline in abortion rates under Democratic presidents, the concern of the Democratic party becoming more moderate, the positive moments at the DNC, the gray cloud over the lack of Palestinian voices, and the presence of protesters at the event.
Takeaways
Chapters
03:22 Challenges and Delays: Tim's Journey to the DNC
12:11 Diversity and Voices at the DNC
17:23 Disappointment over Lack of Palestinian Representation
23:01 The Role of Faith at the DNC
31:01 Understanding the Motivations Behind the MAGA Movement
38:28 The Decline in Abortion Rates under Democratic Presidents
48:40 The Concern of the Democratic Party Becoming More Moderate
01:00:37 The Gray Cloud Over the Lack of Palestinian Voices
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In this episode, Tim interviews Alexandra Hamrick, also known as Ali, who shares her personal experience with IVF and her advocacy for endometriosis. Ali discusses her journey with IVF, the challenges of living with endometriosis, and the importance of raising awareness and providing support for women facing infertility.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
01:00 The Power of IVF and Endometriosis Advocacy
03:15 Understanding Endometriosis and its Impact on Fertility
08:29 The Journey of Medically Answered Prayers
13:22 The Painful Reality of Endometriosis
18:00 Challenges in the Medical System and the Church
22:08 Diagnosis and Treatment of Endometriosis
24:22 The Challenges of Infertility
25:20 Putting Dreams on Hold
26:15 The Success of IVF
29:58 The Role of Embryologists
31:49 Dispelling Misinformation about IVF
34:15 The Impact of Stigmatizing Statements
36:36 Supportive Voices in the IVF Conversation
48:37 Resources for IVF Support
Alexandra's Website | The Infertility Doula
Alexandra's Instagram | @alexandrachamrick
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While Tim's away at the DNC, producer Josh Gilbert hops in to introduce himself to listeners. No RECAP episode this week as Tim is away, but stay tuned to next week's full schedule of episodes.
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Project 2025 is a conservative plan to reshape the federal government under the next presidential administration. It was created by the conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, and has deep connections to the Trump administration. The playbook is 900 pages long and covers a wide range of topics, including abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, gender equality, and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. The plan aims to dismantle the administrative state, ban abortion nationwide, restrict access to birth control, promote heterosexual marriage, and erase LGBTQ+ people from public life. The creators of Project 2025 are Kevin Roberts, the president of The Heritage Foundation, and Russ Vaught, the former head of the Office of Management and Budget in the Trump White House.
Takeaways
Chapters
03:38 The Insanity of Project 2025
09:19 The Battle Over Reproductive Rights
14:27 Restricting Access to Birth Control
23:50 Erasing LGBTQ+ People
31:02 The Role of The Heritage Foundation and Trumpism
34:19 Centralizing Power in the Office of the President
37:43 Neglecting the Poor and Marginalized
41:54 Environmental Rollbacks
51:48 Immigration Enforcement
59:44 The Moral Crusade Against Pornography
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Tim and Liz Cooledge Jenkins discuss her book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism, and her journey unpacking the toxic aspects of conservative evangelicalism. She explores the concept of patriarchy and how it manifests in imbalanced power dynamics and restricts women's agency.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:01 Unpacking the Toxicity of Conservative Evangelicalism
10:02 Challenging Patriarchy and Reclaiming Women's Humanity
14:35 Examining Biblical Interpretations and Cultural Norms
24:21 Merging Contemporary Vibes with Deep Theology
26:26 Effective Ways to Fight the Patriarchy
28:12 Initiating Conversations with Women in the Congregation
29:33 The Need for Women in Leadership
31:11 Reflecting the Diversity of the Body of Christ
33:27 Challenging Traditional Leadership Models
39:19 Perceptions of Church Diversity
41:21 Sharing Power and Embracing Feminine Characteristics
46:45 The Sin of Empathy
48:19 Conclusion
Liz's Website | lizcooledgejenkins.com
Liz on Instagram | @lizcoolj
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics including Donald Trump's conversation with Elon Musk, the leaked Project 2025 training videos, and the conservative Christian view on climate change. They also touch on the anti-science sentiment within conservative Christianity and the impact it has on shaping policies and beliefs. The hosts provide commentary and humor throughout the episode. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the weirdness and oddity of certain aspects of right-wing politics, particularly within the evangelical community. They highlight the contradiction between the claim of being pro-family and pro-American while engaging in bizarre and extreme behavior. They mention the Christians for Harris and Evangelicals for Harris groups as examples of this mobilization. They emphasize the importance of thinking about political engagement in a wise and Jesus-centered way, rather than blindly aligning with a particular party. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the intolerance and narrow-mindedness often found within evangelical circles.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Recap
05:59 Tim's Excitement and Preparations for an Event
09:24 Discussion on Donald Trump's Conversation with Elon Musk
16:16 Exploring the Anti-Science Mindset of Project 2025
20:06 The Impact of Anti-Intellectualism in Conservative Christianity
26:38 Differentiating Between Literalist and Progressive Evangelical Christians
32:30 The Weirdness and Oddity of Right-Wing Politics
49:28 Hope for a Different Vision in Politics
01:11:06 The Misconception of Legislation and Religious Freedom
01:19:33 The Inclusion of Breakdancing in the Olympics
01:35:13 Using Billy Graham's Image in a Political Ad: Misleading or Disrespectful?
Sharon Mchamon's article on Project 2025
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In this episode, Tim discusses updates on The New Evangelicals (TNE) and shares his thoughts on how Christians should approach the Harris-Waltz candidacy. He talks about Project Amplify, a TNE initiative to counter right-wing media narratives, and the growth of the organization. Tim explores the concept of Christian nationalism and emphasizes the importance of advocating for the common good. He encourages Christians to think critically about their political engagement and to prioritize the teachings of Jesus. Tim concludes by expressing hope for Christians to embrace a more inclusive and nuanced approach to politics.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Updates on TNE
14:33 Understanding Christian Nationalism and the Common Good
15:57 Prioritizing the Teachings of Jesus in Political Engagement
19:43 Holding Politicians Accountable and Working for Equity
26:49 Inviting Others to Embrace a Nuanced Approach to Politics
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Scott M. Coley, author of the book, Ministers of Propaganda, and they discuss the concept of legitimizing narratives that are used to justify social arrangements that benefit white evangelicals.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Announcement
04:07 Introduction to Scott M. Coley and His Book 'Ministers of Propaganda'
10:21 How White Evangelicals Justify Social Arrangements
26:43 The Curse of Ham: A Historical Example of a Legitimizing Narrative
29:38 The Hermeneutics of Legitimization
31:05 Challenging Legitimizing Narratives
31:35 Unpacking Legitimizing Narratives and Harmful Ideologies
39:35 The Tension Between Conservative Family Values and Fiscal Policies
55:22 The Role of Propaganda in Shaping Public Opinion
01:00:43 The Need for Critical Examination of Narratives
01:02:11 Striving for a Just and Inclusive Approach to Scripture and Politics
Scott's Book | Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right
Scott's Instagram | @scott_m_coley
Scott's X | @scott_m_coley
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In this episode, Tim and April discuss the new ad-free option for the podcast on Apple Podcasts. They also talk about their plans to improve the show's intro and recap their recent experiences, including Tim's road trip and April's illness. They then dive into the main topic of the episode, which is the popularity of Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota. They discuss his policies, his likability, and his ability to connect with people. They also touch on the weirdness of the Trump era and the importance of calling out falsehoods and strange behavior. Tim discusses the importance of systemic change and the role of government in providing services to those in need. He then analyzes Tim Walz's acceptance speech for the vice president slot on the Harris ticket, highlighting the contrast between the Harris-Walz ticket and the Trump administration. Tim also addresses the hypocrisy of the pro-life movement and criticizes JD Vance's association with Project 2025. He concludes by emphasizing the need to hold the Trump administration accountable for their connections to Project 2025. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss various humorous moments and share their thoughts on the current political landscape.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 New Ad-Free Option on Apple Podcasts
13:54 The Popularity of Tim Walz
19:15 The Weirdness of the Trump Era
28:52 Calling Out Falsehoods and Strange Behavior
38:07 Analyzing Tim Walz's Acceptance Speech
44:36 The Hypocrisy of the Pro-Life Movement
01:13:46 The Power of Humor and Joy
01:19:41 Celebrating Positive Moments from the Olympics
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In this episode, Tim responds to a video of Greg Laurie discussing the controversy surrounding the opening ceremony of the Olympics and the boxer Aman Khalif. Tim critiques Laurie's lack of fact-checking and the hypocrisy within evangelical circles. He addresses the misconceptions about the opening ceremony, the false claims about Aman Khalif, and the narrative of persecution and religious privilege perpetuated by Laurie. Tim highlights the need for critical thinking and accurate information in discussions about faith and culture.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:00 The Lack of Fact-Checking in Evangelical Circles
06:45 Debunking Misconceptions about the Olympics and Aman Khalif
09:38 The Hypocrisy of Persecution and Religious Privilege
20:43 The Importance of Critical Thinking in Faith and Culture
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Tia Levins shares her experience growing up in Christian patriarchy and her journey to escape it. She discusses the influence of the quiver full movement and the pressure to have as many children as possible. Tia explains how she was mentored by women in the church who promoted quiver full ideals and the complementarian lifestyle. She also highlights the lack of counter information and the normalization of abuse within this culture. Tia's story serves as a warning about the dangers of extreme patriarchy and the need to resist it. Tia shares her experience of being in a high-control, patriarchal Christian environment and her journey to escape it. She discusses the challenges of living with a husband who had erratic behavior and the pressure to keep her newborn quiet. Tia explains how she internalized the violence and believed it was her fault. She also talks about the influence of the family-integrated church movement and the shift towards grooming young sons to become future leaders. Tia reveals the extreme practices she endured, including wife discipline, and the process of deconstruction and healing she went through after escaping. She emphasizes the importance of naming experiences and staying curious in spirituality.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
13:28 Transition to Extreme Patriarchy
23:49 Lack of Counter Information and Normalization of Abuse
27:15 The Influence of the Family-Integrated Church Movement
33:09 Extreme Practices: Wife Discipline
41:23 Escaping and the Process of Deconstruction
44:21 Reclaiming Spirituality on One's Own Terms
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Olympic opening ceremony, Trump's remarks at the Believers Summit, and their experience visiting the Ark Encounter. They express frustration with the outrage over trivial matters and the lack of attention given to more important issues. They also highlight the need for Christians to represent Jesus well and focus on issues that truly matter. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Believer's Summit, the problematic views of Doug Wilson, Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, and the implications of Project 2025. They also touch on the absurd interpretations of the Olympic opening ceremony and announce their attendance at Theology Beer Camp.
Takeaways
Chapters
03:06 Traveling and the Ark Encounter
09:07 The Olympic Controversy
14:21 The Weakness of Evangelicalism
17:39 Interpreting Trump's Remarks
24:17 The Power of Words and Prioritizing Issues
40:02 Controversy Surrounding the Believer's Summit
41:25 Problematic Views of Doug Wilson
48:38 Trump's Appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention
52:53 Implications of Project 2025
01:14:25 Absurd Interpretations of the Olympic Opening Ceremony
01:18:13 Announcement: Attendance at Theology Beer Camp
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In this episode, Tim and Dr. Kevin Carnahan respond to the ideas presented by Stephen Wolf, who advocates for Christian nationalism and promotes white supremacy. They discuss the dangerous ideologies and myths perpetuated by Wolf and his supporters, highlighting the need for critical thinking and awareness of the underlying agendas. The conversation covers topics such as the concept of a new Christendom, the myth of an immigrant nation, the oppression of white people, and the implications of affirmative action. Tim and Dr. Carnahan dismantle these ideas and emphasize the importance of understanding history and working towards a more inclusive and just society. In this part of the conversation, the principal themes revolve around critical race theory, multiculturalism, corruption, and immigration. The speakers discuss how critical race theory helps explain the persistence of systemic racism and the covert ways in which supremacist systems are maintained. They also address the misconception that policies benefiting non-whites are inherently bad for whites, highlighting the importance of understanding historical context. The conversation delves into the impact of multiculturalism on social trust and the common good, with differing perspectives on its effects. The speakers also touch on corruption, nepotism, and the role of immigration in shaping societal institutions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Kevin discuss the arguments made by Stephen Wolfe in his speech.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
13:10 Stephen Wolf and New Christendom Press
33:00 White People as Their Own In-Group's Out-Group
41:20 Effects of Historical Injustices and Affirmative Action
56:36 Challenging Misconceptions about Policies Benefiting Non-Whites
01:09:49 Examining Corruption and Nepotism
01:16:53 The Impact of Immigration on Societal Institutions
01:30:36 The Contradictions in Wolfe's Use of Bible Verses
02:07:11 The Incoherence of Stephen Wolfe's Arguments
02:35:44 Resisting and Offering a Better Alternative
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Kristina Kuzmich sits down with Tim to share her journey from trauma and divorce to viral success and the struggles of parenting a child with mental health issues. She discusses her faith, the impact of her upbringing, and the challenges she faced in finding her purpose and identity.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Viral Success
03:17 Discovering Comedy as a Coping Mechanism
05:48 Influence of Pentecostal Faith and Church Community
08:01 Questioning Faith and Beliefs
11:43 Impact of Faith Community on Personal Struggles
14:04 Finding Purpose Through Volunteering
16:17 Parenting and Mental Health Struggles
23:57 Navigating Parenting and Mental Health Challenges
26:28 The Intersection of Faith and Mental Health
32:02 Support and Validation in Family Dynamics
44:49 Self-Compassion and Healing in Parenting
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In this episode, Tim and April recap the recent RNC and discuss the speeches given by Hulk Hogan, Franklin Graham, and Kid Rock. They analyze the rhetoric used and the narratives being reinforced, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the lack of policy discussion during the RNC and the focus on personality rather than platform. The conversation highlights the importance of questioning and challenging these narratives and ideologies. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the racist and sexist attacks against Vice President Kamala Harris and the implications of Christian nationalism. They also explore the potential impact of Harris as the Democratic nominee and the energized response from the Democratic base. The conversation highlights the deep-rooted racism and misogyny within certain political circles and the need for a more inclusive and progressive approach to politics.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Recap
11:18 The RNC: Personality Over Platform
17:35 The Lack of Policy Discussion at the RNC
24:14 The Rhetoric of Christian Nationalism
38:57 Questioning and Challenging Narratives and Ideologies
43:30 Uncovering the Deep-Rooted Prejudices
52:16 The Impact of Kamala Harris as the Democratic Nominee
56:57 The Intersection of Racism, Sexism, and Christian Nationalism
01:08:18 Shaping the Campaign: The Democratic National Convention and the Choice of Harris's Running Mate
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In this episode, Tim responds to a video from an Instagram channel called Leading Second that asserts the belief that if you don't believe the Bible is true, you have no place in leadership. Tim unpacks the loaded statement and explores the concept of a biblical worldview. He challenges the idea of the Bible being infallible and examines the flawed logic behind it. Tim also discusses the different portrayals of God in the Bible and the need for interpretation and contextual understanding.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
04:37 Challenging the Notion of Bible Truth and Leadership
11:52 The Nuances of a Biblical Worldview
18:12 The Flawed Logic of Biblical Infallibility
21:04 Interpreting the Portrayals of God in the Bible
24:53 The Importance of Contextual Understanding in Bible Interpretation
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In this episode, Tim interviews Dr. Jennifer Bird and Dr. Michael West to discuss the topic of in vitro fertilization (IVF). They address the misconceptions and propaganda surrounding IVF, particularly in right-wing fundamentalist spaces.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:42 The Importance of Understanding IVF
11:18 When Does Life Begin?
18:12 Exploring IVF: Procedure and Purpose
25:12 The Reality of Early Embryo Death
30:45 The Biological Facts of IVF
35:29 The Pro-Life Nature of IVF
36:18 Misinformation and Reproductive Freedom
37:43 Conclusion
38:39 Exploring the Bible's Stance on Abortion
41:27 Unpacking the Concept of the Image of God
44:24 The Mythical Nature of Biblical Descriptions
48:08 Discrepancies in Defining Viability
51:58 Considering Women's Autonomy in Reproductive Health
Dr. Jennifer Bird's Website:
https://www.jennifergracebird.com/
Dr. Michael D. West's World Stem Cell Summit Page:
https://worldstemcellsummit.com/michael-west/
Embryo Statment:
https://www.wildolivebibleandculture.org/ivf
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In this episode, Tim and April discuss the aftermath of the assassination attempt on former President Trump and the Republican National Convention (RNC). They address the use of profanity, the shock and numbness they felt, and the conspiracy theories surrounding the event. They also analyze the rhetoric used by Republicans during the RNC, including claims that Democrats want to take away people's homes and cars and limit their dreams. They highlight the importance of accountability and avoiding dehumanization in political discourse. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the reactions and rhetoric surrounding the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. They highlight the hypocrisy and lack of empathy displayed by some individuals, as well as the dangerous beliefs held by Christian nationalists. The conversation also touches on the rift between Trump and Christian nationalists, the role of women in the RNC, and the misuse of biblical passages to support political agendas. Despite the challenges, Tim and April encourage listeners to stay engaged, find joy, and continue working towards a more inclusive society.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:10 The Aftermath of the Assassination Attempt on Trump
26:51 Analyzing the Rhetoric of the Republican National Convention
45:22 Accountability and Unity in Political Discourse
46:14 Hypocrisy and Lack of Empathy
53:08 The Dangerous Beliefs of Christian Nationalists
01:10:44 Misuse of Biblical Passages
01:19:12 Intolerance Towards Women in the RNC
01:25:08 The Rift Between Trump and Christian Nationalists
01:31:47 Staying Engaged and Finding Joy
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In this episode, Tim responds to the assassination attempt on former President Trump and explores the implications and reactions surrounding the event. He discusses the need for non-violence and the value of non-dehumanization, condemning the violence while also addressing the dangers of conspiratorial thinking and extreme rhetoric. Tim highlights the gun violence problem in America and calls for gun reform. He also critiques theological takes that glorify or justify the assassination attempt and examines the threat of Trumpism and Christian nationalism to democracy. Tim emphasizes the importance of promoting human flourishing and denounces dehumanization in all its forms.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
05:28 Condemning Violence and Upholding Non-Violence
10:12 Addressing the Gun Violence Problem in America
18:13 Critiquing Theological Takes on the Assassination Attempt
23:20 The Threat of Trumpism and Christian Nationalism to Democracy
36:57 Promoting Human Flourishing and Denouncing Dehumanization
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In this episode, Tim provides an update on recent events and shares some personal updates. He discusses the violence that occurred at a rally and condemns it, emphasizing the importance of nonviolence and love for all. Tim gives a personal update that will affect the future of TNE
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In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including viral videos, vacation experiences, Airbnb camera issues, and their Fourth of July celebrations. They also touch on the recent controversies surrounding Robert Morris and the GOP's updated policy platform. Additionally, they provide an overview of Project 2025, a conservative plan for the future, and highlight the concerning statements made by Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation. The conversation explores the GOP party platform and its alignment with Project Amplify. The platform includes statements on immigration, border security, energy production, military strength, election security, and social issues. Notably, the platform does not mention abortion or gay marriage, causing tension within the right-wing Christian nationalist community. The conversation also highlights the use of dog whistles and racist rhetoric in the platform's language. The hosts debunk claims about crime rates, city safety, and critical race theory. They emphasize the importance of accurate historical education and the need for comprehensive immigration reform. In this conversation, Tim and April review the GOP's policy platform and discuss the principal themes that emerge. They highlight key points such as immigration, crypto and AI, education, religious liberty, and abortion.
Project 25 PDF:
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Takeaways
Chapters
02:23 Vacation Stories and Airbnb Camera Issues
13:45 Controversies Surrounding Robert Morris
30:27 The Concerning Statements of Kevin Roberts
45:28 Tension within the Right-Wing Christian Nationalist Community
01:09:42 The Importance of Accurate Historical Education and Comprehensive Immigration Reform
01:21:13 Crypto and AI in the GOP Platform
01:28:45 Religious Liberty and the Fight Against Anti-Christian Bias
01:43:03 GOP's Stance on Abortion and Support for IVF
01:56:11 Conclusion and Call to Action
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In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson respond to a video by Allie Stuckey and John MacArthur on mental health. They discuss the topics of medication, the brain and mind connection, and the role of therapy in treating mental health issues. They also address the misconception that medication cannot fix the mind and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. The conversation highlights the need for accurate information and research in discussions on mental health. In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson discuss John MacArthur's views on mental health and the role of spirituality in addressing mental health issues. They critique MacArthur's claims that chemical imbalances in the brain are a lie and that mental health problems can be solved by turning to Christ instead of medication. Dr. Anderson explains the current understanding of trauma and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. They also discuss the harmful effects of fundamentalist beliefs and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to mental health.
Takeaways
Chapters
01:03 Background and Credentials
03:20 Taking a Holistic Approach to Mental Health
08:25 The Problematic Views of John MacArthur and Allie Stuckey
10:17 The Brain and Mind Connection
18:06 The Myth of Mental Health
20:27 The Role of Medication in Mental Health
30:18 Debunking the Myth of Chemical Imbalances
44:28 Understanding Trauma and its Effects
56:00 Embracing a Non-Resistant Approach to Mental Health
Lauren's Website:
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https://www.traumaresolutionandrecovery.com/
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Today’s guest, Qasim Rashid, explores with Tim the impact of 9/11 on the Muslim community, the misrepresentation of Islam in the media, the role of human rights lawyers, the current situation of immigration in America, the impact of climate change on immigration, and the intersection of faith and social justice.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Journey of a Human Rights Lawyer
07:15 Impact of 9/11 and Media Misrepresentation
10:09 Advocacy and Intersection of Faith
22:27 Ethical Considerations and Political Landscape
59:16 Leading with Compassion and Justice
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In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their personal experiences, popular TV shows, the 4th of July, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They react to a trailer for the movie 'God's Not Dead 5' and highlight the propaganda and misinformation present in the film. They also touch on the dangers of Christian nationalism and its impact on democracy. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the conflation of allegiance to Jesus and allegiance to empire. They highlight the cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics that many Christian nationalists engage in to maintain their beliefs. They also address the issue of authoritarianism and the false equivalence between progressive and conservative agendas. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need for critical thinking and the importance of calling out propaganda and misinformation.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Recap
16:29 Reacting to Personal Experiences and Popular TV Shows
36:09 Reacting to the 'God's Not Dead 5' Trailer
40:03 Promoting Critical Thinking and Questioning Beliefs
44:32 Introduction and Personal Experiences
51:23 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism
58:01 The Conflation of Allegiance to Jesus and Allegiance to Empire
01:09:19 Addressing Authoritarianism and False Equivalence
01:14:05 The Importance of Critical Thinking and Challenging Propaganda
01:25:24 Calling Out Harmful Beliefs and Actions
Episode's Mentioned:
269. Harrison Butker's Speech is Worse than You Think
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In this episode, Tim discusses the pressing issues surrounding the 2024 election and the rise of Christian nationalism. He highlights the concerns about Joe Biden's performance in the first presidential debate and the implications for American democracy. Tim also delves into the dangers of Project 2025 and the efforts to erode democracy and impose Christian nationalist values. He emphasizes the need for awareness, activism, and engagement to counter these threats.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:27 The Concerns Surrounding Joe Biden's Performance
09:23 The Dangers of Project 2025
15:11 The Implications of the Supreme Court Ruling
29:24 The Need for Awareness and Activism
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In this conversation, Dan Koch and Sarah Lane Ritchie discuss the challenges and complexities of worship music in evangelical and mainline churches. They explore the role of music in worship and the potential for manipulation and harm.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Self-Description
03:22 Exploring the Role of Music in Worship
10:40 The Harm of Conflating Music with God
25:09 The Cultural Reaction Against Evangelical Worship Music
37:27 The Cognitive and Emotional Challenges of Worship Music
41:39 The Perception of Modern Evangelical Worship
46:25 Religion as Nuclear Fission: The Power and Potential Dangers
59:39 The Dispositional Openness Cultivated by Worship Music
01:09:29 Navigating the Complexities of Faith and Tradition
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In this episode, Tim and April discuss various aspects of Christian culture, including tattoos, the recent presidential debate, and a church selling plots of land in heaven. They are joined by Andrew Whitehead to explore the rise of Christian nationalism and its impact on issues like abortion. They highlight the increase in infant mortality rates in Texas after the abortion ban and critique the extreme views of some pro-life activists. The discussion covers the complexities within the pro-life movement, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of reproductive rights, including access to healthcare, economic support, and comprehensive sex education. They also critique pro-life groups and politicians who fail to support policies that genuinely help mothers and children. The conversation then shifts to Christian nationalism's influence on American society, particularly the display of the Ten Commandments in public schools, exploring the motivations behind this push and the need for a more inclusive and compassionate understanding of patriotism and democratic responsibilities.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Fun Banter
03:01 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Abortion
09:29 Unintended Consequences: The Rise in Infant Mortality Rates in Texas
13:14 Lack of Compassion and Nuance in the Pro-Life Movement
25:19 The Rise of Christian Nationalism and its Influence on Politics
37:51 Understanding Abortion and the Need for Nuance
48:02 The Influence of Christian Nationalism
52:44 The Ten Commandments in Public Schools and Christian Nationalism
58:25 Redefining Patriotism: Justice, Equality, and Compassion
01:05:38 The Responsibility of Citizens in a Democratic Society
01:13:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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In this episode, Tim and April respond to the elder statement made by Gateway Church regarding the allegations against their lead pastor, Robert Morris. They express disappointment with the statement and discuss the lack of accountability and transparency. They highlight the need for Gateway Church to take concrete actions to address the harm caused and support the survivors. Tim and April also criticize the church's focus on the show and the institution rather than the well-being of the victims. They call for a halt in services, a thorough investigation, and financial reparations for the survivors. The conversation discusses the response of Gateway Church to the allegations against their former lead pastor, Robert Morris, who was accused of molesting a 12-year-old girl. The hosts criticize the church's lack of accountability and deflection of responsibility. They highlight the problematic mindset of some evangelical churches that prioritize success and money over addressing systemic issues and protecting victims. The conversation also touches on the comparison between leaving a church due to disappointment and leaving a church due to abuse, as well as the interconnectedness of charismatic leaders and the need for systemic change.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:16 Allegations against Robert Morris
08:16 Lack of Accountability and Transparency
12:07 The Resignation of Robert Morris
13:36 Pattern of Similar Incidents
20:11 Frustration with the Church's Handling
21:20 Call for Financial Reparations
21:45 The Problematic Response of Gateway Church
22:42 The Prioritization of Success and Money in Evangelical Culture
23:24 Leaving Church: Disappointment vs. Abuse
25:17 The Interconnectedness of Charismatic Leaders
27:06 The Need for Systemic Change in Evangelical Culture
Gateway's Elder Response Video
Read the Initial Article on Robert Morris
Robert's Full Response Video
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In this conversation, Representative James Talarico and Tim Whitaker discuss topics such as Christian nationalism, faith, and navigating political differences. Talarico shares his background growing up in a conservative Christian home but attending a church that emphasized love for all people. He explains how his faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office. The conversation also touches on the importance of maintaining a spiritual foundation in politics, finding common ground with ideological opponents, and the challenges of addressing issues like Christian nationalism. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and James Talarico discuss the importance of engaging in conversations to advocate for marginalized communities, the need for affordable healthcare and paid family leave, the role of right-wing media in spreading misinformation and fear, the threat of Christian nationalism, and the actions individuals can take to make a difference.
Takeaways
Growing up in a conservative Christian home, Representative James Talarico attended a church that emphasized love for all people, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexual orientation.
Talarico's faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office, with a focus on dismantling unjust systems and advocating for the well-being of all constituents.
Maintaining a spiritual foundation is crucial in navigating the challenges of politics, helping to control emotions and channel anger into productive and loving actions.
Finding common ground with ideological opponents is possible through personal connections and shared values, even while maintaining clear policy differences.
Addressing issues like Christian nationalism requires resisting harmful ideas and systems while avoiding personal attacks, focusing on the moral contrast and expanding the circle of concern for all people. Engaging in conversations and advocating for marginalized communities is crucial, as it relieves the burden on those directly affected by discriminatory policies.
Affordable healthcare and paid family leave are not radical ideas, but necessary measures to support families and ensure their well-being.
Right-wing media plays a significant role in spreading misinformation and fear, often prioritizing profit over truth.
Christian nationalism poses a threat to democracy and the values of equality and justice.
Individuals can make a difference by staying informed, supporting organizations working for change, and actively participating in the democratic process.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
09:29 Understanding Christian Nationalism
16:08 The Role of Faith in Politics
24:27 Addressing Christian Nationalism and Expanding the Circle of Concern
26:51 Affordable Healthcare and Paid Family Leave
29:33 Finding Common Ground
33:11 The Influence of Right-Wing Media
36:06 The Threat of Christian Nationalism
45:57 Taking Action for Change
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The conversation discusses the technical difficulties faced before the recording and the humorous incidents that occurred. It then delves into the scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church, where allegations of sexual abuse have been made against Morris. The conversation highlights the contradictory statements made by Gateway Church and the need for a thorough investigation. It also addresses the toxic culture within evangelical churches, the impact of purity culture, and the importance of holding leaders accountable. Cindy, the alleged victim, releases a statement expressing her disappointment in the church's response and calling for justice and reform. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the hypocrisy and lack of accountability within certain religious circles, particularly in relation to the handling of sexual abuse allegations. They highlight the case of Robert Morris, a megachurch pastor who platformed Mark Driscoll, despite Driscoll's history of abusive behavior. They also criticize the selective outrage and silence of certain evangelical influencers, such as Meg Basham and Allie Stuckey, who condemn Morris but defend John MacArthur, despite his involvement in covering up child abuse within his own church. The conversation emphasizes the need for accountability and the dismantling of toxic systems within religious institutions.
Takeaways
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In this episode, Tim discusses the recent allegations against Robert Morris, the lead pastor of Gateway Church, who admitted to engaging in inappropriate sexual behavior with a 12-year-old girl when he was in his early 20s. Tim criticizes the response from Gateway Church and highlights the systemic issues within the evangelical church that enable and protect abusive pastors. He also addresses the harmful narratives propagated by conservative media about the supposed dangers of drag queen story hour, while ignoring the real threat of sexual abuse within churches. Tim calls for accountability and a dismantling of the toxic structures within American evangelicalism.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Content Warning
00:41 Unpacking the Allegations Against Robert Morris
10:27 The Toxicity of American Evangelicalism
24:53 The Need for Church Accountability
26:19 Dismantling the Structures of Evangelicalism
Read the Article on Robert Morris
Robert's Full Response Video
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The conversation with Myron Penner this week explores the transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras, focusing on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth. It delves into the intellectual history of these movements, the impact of modernity on theology, and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context.
Takeaways
The transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras has had a significant impact on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth.
The conversation explores the intellectual history of these movements, shedding light on the impact of modernity on theology and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context.
The discussion provides insights into the interpretation of texts, the correspondence theory of truth, and the philosophical frameworks of modernity and postmodernity. Interpreting biblical texts involves considering historical context, author status, and social factors, challenging the traditional focus on authorial intent.
The conversation highlights the tension between modernist and postmodernist perspectives in interpreting Christian beliefs, emphasizing the need for intellectual humility and open dialogue.
The evolution of Christian beliefs and the dynamic nature of theological interpretations are explored, challenging the notion of a static, monolithic view of historic orthodox Christianity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Faith, Reason, and Truth
06:53 The Impact of Modernity on Theology and Truth
29:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Interpretation
53:36 The Interplay of Modernist and Postmodernist Perspectives in Christian Beliefs
58:07 The Evolution and Dynamic Nature of Christian Beliefs
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In this conversation, Tim and Janice discuss various topics, including the conviction of Donald Trump, the misuse of religious language in politics, and the role of evangelical leaders. They also touch on the hypocrisy of some evangelical leaders and the need for skepticism and critical thinking. The conversation highlights the manipulation of religious beliefs for political gain and the importance of understanding the historical context of political decisions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Janice discuss the themes of white evangelicalism, the failure of the democratic process, and the hypocrisy of Trump's supporters. They explore the idea that America is in decline and that evangelicalism has failed the test of staying true to its values. They also touch on the conviction of Hunter Biden and the response from both sides of the political spectrum. In this final part of the conversation, Tim discusses the use of memes and images to attack political opponents, particularly in the context of Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. He highlights the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who find such memes acceptable when they target Trump, but not when they target Hunter Biden. Tim also criticizes the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) for its regressive views on women's roles and IVF, and expresses his frustration with the continued platforming of Carl Lentz. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the love and acceptance of queer neighbors, and the control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians.
Takeaways
Janice's Link Tree
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In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim Gretzky discuss various topics related to Catholicism and the role of priests and bishops. They touch on issues such as the traditional Latin mass, Catholic teachings on abortion and IVF, and the role of priests in parish communities. They also discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Catholic Church. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the importance of understanding the complexities of Catholicism and avoiding generalizations or false judgments. In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim analyze a speech given by NFL player Harrison Butker at Benedictine College. They discuss the recurring theme of longing for a mythological past and the connection between Christian nationalism and the desire to return to a privileged time. They also explore the traditional Catholic view of marriage and the importance of adhering to Catholic traditions. Father Jim provides insights into the Catholic perspective on issues such as birth control and the role of men in society. They highlight the need for nuance and understanding in discussions about faith and the dangers of fundamentalism.
Takeaways
Understanding the complexities of Catholicism is important to avoid generalizations or false judgments.
The role of priests and bishops in the Catholic Church is multifaceted and requires a deep understanding of theology and pastoral care.
The COVID-19 pandemic presented challenges for the Catholic Church, but decisions made by bishops and priests were often based on public health guidelines and the safety of parishioners.
Recognizing the authority of bishops and priests is essential in understanding the role they play in leading the Church and administering the sacraments.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:03 Exploring the Complexities of Catholicism
10:23 The Role of Priests and Bishops in the Catholic Church
15:07 Understanding Catholic Teachings on Abortion
25:22 The Importance of Charity and Staying in One's Lane
30:27 Avoiding Generalizations and False Judgments
38:29 The Role of Priests and Bishops in Parish Communities
47:00 Reflecting on Past and Present Leadership in the Catholic Church
48:59 Longing for a Mythological Past
52:18 The Traditional Catholic View of Marriage
59:47 God-Centered Pride and Glorifying Him
01:09:22 The Catholic View of Marriage
01:17:32 The Importance of Tradition in Worship
01:25:26 Surrounding Yourself with People Who Sharpen You
01:31:49 The Catholic Position on Birth Control
James Martin’s Books:
The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything: A Spirituality for Real Life
Greg Boyle’s Books:
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In this episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss Christian nationalism and its impact on various social issues. They explore the definition of Christian nationalism and its desire to see a specific expression of Christianity fused with American civic life. They also examine the association between Christian nationalism and opposition to same-sex marriage, as well as the belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies. The conversation highlights the slow liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among those who embrace Christian nationalism. The discussion also touches on the theological challenges faced by Christian nationalists when it comes to accepting queer relationships and the rejection of contraception access by some Republicans. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the themes of white Christian nationalism, the intersection of religion and race, and the dangers of Christian nationalist ideology. They highlight the importance of understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists, as well as the potential consequences if their ideology gains more power and influence in the United States. The conversation also touches on the hypocrisy and double standards of conservative pundits and the need for people to stay informed and speak out against Christian nationalism.
Takeaways
Christian nationalism seeks to fuse a specific expression of Christianity with American civic life and desires to see the government defend and preserve that cultural framework.
Those who strongly embrace Christian nationalism are more likely to oppose same-sex marriage and support the right of small business owners to refuse service to gay or lesbian people.
While there has been a liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among all Americans, those who embrace Christian nationalism have been slower to change their stance.
Christian nationalism's belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies poses theological challenges when it comes to accepting queer relationships.
Some Republicans' rejection of contraception access aligns with the belief in a rightly ordered society that involves a man and a woman having many children. White Christian nationalism is a dangerous ideology that seeks to maintain white privilege and power in the United States.
Christian nationalism is intertwined with white supremacy and seeks to enforce a specific vision of America based on Christian values.
Understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists is crucial in order to counter their influence and protect marginalized communities.
Conservative pundits often engage in hypocrisy and double standards when it comes to supporting political figures and ideologies.
It is important for individuals to stay informed about the dangers of Christian nationalism and to speak out against it in order to protect democracy and promote equality.
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Tim breaks down why for Evangelicals, Trump being a convicted felon will not affect their loyalty for him.
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In this episode, Tim interviews Diane Schiffer, a popular content creator, about her journey in content creation, her background in evangelicalism, and her experiences with Christian culture and politics.
Takeaways
Diane's journey from Episcopalian to evangelicalism and her disillusionment with evangelical subculture.
The impact of purity culture and evangelical subculture on Diane's personal and family life.
The tokenization of individuals in evangelical spaces and the complexities of LGBTQ+ issues within evangelicalism.
Observations of the rise of Trump within evangelical spaces and the challenges of being a Democrat in evangelical circles.
The disillusionment with evangelical leaders and the impact of Trump's presidency on evangelical spaces.
The personal journey of faith and belief, navigating religious subcultures, and the pursuit of empathy and kindness in a divisive world.
Chapters
00:00 From Episcopalian to Evangelical: A Journey of Disillusionment
10:24 Deconstructing Evangelicalism and Purity Culture
14:05 The Rise of Trump
40:35 Understanding Christian Nationalism
48:15 Navigating Faith, Belief, and Empathy
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Tim was featured on an episode of 24 hours with Paul and Morgan discussing their differences about theology, politics and culture. Was Tim fairly represented? Or were their edits misleading? Join Tim and his wife (Sarah) as they watch it live for the first time and react.
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In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April are joined by Sue Wright, a retired school teacher, to discuss various topics in the Christian culture. They touch on Sue's lack of religious trauma, the concept of the rapture, and their plans for Memorial Day weekend. They also discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it. The hosts then share their thoughts on an upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan, a conservative Christian couple, spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss their plans to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube. They also talk about the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited. They then shift the conversation to the topic of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle by his wife and other pastors. They discuss Locke's extreme views and the dangers of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson, who claim to be moral and religious but defend immoral actions. The conversation ends with a discussion about men showing emotions and Matt Walsh's tweet about men crying.
Takeaways
Sue's lack of religious trauma provides a unique perspective in the conversation
The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it
An upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs sparks interest and curiosity Tim and April plan to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube.
They discuss the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited.
They highlight the extreme views of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle.
They discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson.
They talk about the importance of men being able to show emotions and criticize Matt Walsh's tweet on the topic.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
02:05 Sue's Unique Perspective
03:03 Controversy and Lack of Charity in the Response to Harrison Butker's Speech
14:18 Upcoming Video Series by Paul and Morgan Sparks Interest and Curiosity
38:05 Filming the Video
39:36 Greg Locke: Controversial Pastor
43:58 Debating a Flat Earther
45:25 Greg Locke Declared an Apostle
48:54 Men Showing Emotions
57:04 The Hypocrisy of Politicians
01:00:49 Matt Walsh's Tweet
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Tim responds to Rich and Dawnchere Wilkerson telling their congregation not to seek therapy that isn't founded in the Bible
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John Pavlovitz, author of the book, Worth Fighting For: Finding a Faith That Makes a Better Human, discusses his journey from being a conservative evangelical pastor to a more progressive Christian ethos. Tim and John discuss the tensions between personal convictions and pastoral expectations, the challenges of navigating relationships within the church, and the importance of humanizing people in the midst of political differences.
Takeaways
Many people within conservative evangelical communities feel torn between their convictions and the community they love, making it difficult to navigate their beliefs and relationships.
It is important to humanize people and remember that individuals within the Christian nationalist movement are not a monolith. There is diversity of thought and experience within these communities.
Dehumanization is a dangerous path that can lead to violence, and it is crucial to maintain empathy and respect for others, even in the midst of political differences.
Authentic dialogue, empathy, and compassion are essential in bridging the divide and fostering understanding between different theological and political perspectives.
Navigating relationships with people who hold different beliefs requires curiosity, understanding, and respect for their journey.
Being a progressive Christian involves the challenge of maintaining relationships while advocating for systemic change.
Unity, empathy, and humanizing the conversation are essential for moving forward and creating a more inclusive society.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:15 Humanizing People in the Midst of Political Differences
27:34 Navigating Relationships with Different Beliefs
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In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their preferences for living in different states, Tim's love for New Jersey, and April's love for Mexican food. They also touch on the concept of a daily live show, a prayer for lactose intolerance, and a prophecy update regarding the rapture. They discuss the ongoing investigation into the death of Micah Miller and the controversy surrounding Lake Point Church's attempt to skew a traffic study. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss a controversial commencement speech given by Harrison Butker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. They analyze Butker's comments about women and their roles in society, as well as his views on Catholicism and Christian nationalism. The hosts critique the speech and highlight the harmful and patriarchal messages it conveys. They also address the hypocrisy of Christian nationalists who claim to be persecuted while advocating for discrimination against marginalized groups. The conversation touches on the broader themes of feminism, cancel culture, and the role of men in society.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:22 Living in Different States: Tim's Love for New Jersey
07:03 The Idea of a Daily Live Show
10:21 Prophecy Update: The Rapture
42:20 Introduction: Harrison Butker's Controversial Speech
45:07 Butker's Views on Cultural Values and Media
47:05 Butker's Critique of Catholicism and Pro-Choice Catholics
51:53 The Role of Women in Butker's Speech
55:41 The Importance of Marriage and Motherhood in Butker's Speech
01:09:25 Absentee Fathers and Violence Rates
01:14:06 Reaction to Butker's Speech: Twitter Responses
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In this episode, Tim responds to a video by Alisa Childers, a prominent figure in the apologetics space. Tim addresses the claim that the deconstruction movement exists only because of social media and argues that deconstruction is not a unified movement but rather an explosion of individuals with different perspectives. He also challenges the idea that words have objective meaning and explores different interpretations of the Bible. Tim concludes by discussing the concept of truth and the limitations of proving historical events like the resurrection of Jesus.
Takeaways
Deconstruction is not a unified movement but an explosion with a diverse individuals with different perspectives.
Social media has played a significant role in the deconstruction movement by providing a platform for people to share their experiences and access alternative perspectives.
Christianity has different metanarratives depending on the particular stream of Christian thought.
The concept of truth in Christianity is complex, and the ability to prove historical events like the resurrection is limited.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Conversation and Background on Alisa Childers
02:04 Deconstruction as an Explosion, Not a Unified Movement
05:12 The Influence of Social Media on the Deconstruction Movement
08:37 The Challenge of Objective Meaning in Words
13:02 The Diversity of Interpretations in the Bible
16:32 Different Metanarratives in Christianity
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Ryan George grew up in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church and experienced both abuse and healing within the church. He shares his story of growing up in a conservative and abusive environment, where rules and regulations were enforced to an extreme degree. Ryan's father, a pastor in the IFB network, was later exposed as a serial sexual predator. Ryan reflects on the spiritual and physical abuse he endured, as well as the ways in which the IFB culture justified and perpetuated this abuse. It was through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community that Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing. Ryan George shares his journey of healing and redemption after experiencing spiritual abuse and the harm caused by his father. Despite the pain and trauma, Ryan found healing in the church through authentic relationships and a personal connection with God. He emphasizes the importance of finding safe spaces and supportive communities where individuals can share their hurts and doubts. Ryan's story highlights the power of redefining one's understanding of God and finding healing in unexpected places.
Takeaways
The IFB culture enforced extreme rules and regulations, leading to spiritual and physical abuse.
Through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community, Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing.
Authentic relationships and supportive communities in the church can play a crucial role in the healing process.
Redefining one's understanding of God and finding a personal connection can lead to healing and transformation.
Safe spaces where individuals can share their hurts and doubts are essential for healing and growth.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Hurt and Healed by the Church
07:37 The Dark Side of the IFB: Serial Sexual Predators
26:59 Introduction and Background
37:07 Navigating the Church After Spiritual Abuse
45:02 Finding Healing and Redemption in the Church
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In this episode April and Tim discuss the Mica Miller case. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding the viral video of the pastor announcing his wife's death during a sermon. They mention Mica's mental health struggles, reports of abuse, and the couple's separation and divorce filings. They explores how the evangelical world broadly addresses allegations of abuse, the toxic positivity within evangelicalism, and the need for a more inclusive and supportive church culture. The hosts emphasize the importance of mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships. They also discuss the flaws in gun laws and the dangers of overlooking red flags within church leadership. They also discuss which tweet will be awarded "the tweet of the week".
Takeaways
When discussing sensitive topics like mental health and abuse caution and sensitivity is key.
Information in the Mica Miller case is still being released and it's important not to jump to conclusions without waiting for more data.
The conversation raises questions about Mica's husbands' behavior and the dynamics of his relationship with his wife. Mica Miller's death highlights the need for mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships within the church.
Toxic positivity within evangelicalism can prevent individuals from seeking help and acknowledging mental health struggles.
Gun laws should be more thoughtfully created to prevent individuals in vulnerable mental states from accessing firearms.
Church leadership must be held accountable for overlooking red flags and enabling abusive behavior.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project to discuss Rosaria Butterfield's problematic anti LGBTQ+ theology, and her impact on the larger conservative Christian culture.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Billie Hoard to discuss her thoughts on Tim's experience at the Exiles in Babylon Conference.
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In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics including April's super villain chair, their confessions about being involved in multi-level marketing schemes, the recent overturning of the ban on LGBTQ+ clergy in the United Methodist Church, and the student protests in solidarity with the Palestinian people. They also touch on the militarization of the US police force and the need for the evangelical church to repent for its harmful theology. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the controversial statements made by John MacArthur regarding mental health. They highlight the problematic nature of his views and the harm they can cause to individuals struggling with mental health issues. They also critique the dismissive and judgmental attitude towards those who seek medication and treatment for their conditions. The conversation touches on the dehumanization of children and the harmful beliefs about women's roles in the church. Despite these negative perspectives, the hosts also highlight some positive news and victories in the fight for justice and equality.
Chapters
00:00 Confessions: Tim and April's MLM Experiences
03:14 United Methodist Church Overturns Ban on LGBTQ+ Clergy
15:04 Student Protests in Solidarity with Palestinians
32:55 Introduction and Background on John MacArthur
36:18 John MacArthur's Controversial Views on Mental Health
44:44 The Dehumanization of Children and Rigid Gender Roles
01:05:06 Positive News and Victories in the Fight for Justice
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Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker, a theologian and professor, is interviewed by Tim. They discuss Dr. Parker's work and the upcoming book by Richard Hayes titled:'The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story,' which challenges traditional non-affirming views on sexuality and presents an affirming standpoint. Richard Hayes is an influential New Testament scholar known for his work on the faithfulness of Christ. One of his influential books is The Moral Vision of the New Testament, which includes a chapter on homosexuality. The conversation explores the problematic idea of trying to change the sexual orientation of LGBTQIA+ Christians. It discusses the pressure for LGBTQIA+ individuals to conform to a monolithic identity in order to be accepted by churches. The conversation also highlights the dominance of mostly white men in the field of biblical scholarship and the need for diverse perspectives. The conversation discusses the impact of Hayes' earlier teaching against queer affirming theology and the harm caused by his narrow perspectives. The conversation touches on the need for white men to listen to and learn from queer scholars who have already done extensive biblical scholarship. It emphasizes the importance of not overshadowing or dismissing the work of marginalized voices.
Takeaways
The field of biblical scholarship needs more diversity and representation
Listening to diverse perspectives can help challenge and broaden our understanding of the world
Acknowledging and making amends for past harm is an important part of personal growth and repentance.
White men should listen to and learn from marginalized voices, particularly queer scholars, who have already done extensive biblical scholarship on queer affirmation.
The conversation highlights the need for humility and a willingness to learn and change.
The work of white evangelicals should involve fighting against Christian nationalism and working towards justice and equality.
We need to critically think about who we invite into our spaces and the perspectives we prioritize.
Treating marginalized groups as monolithic is dangerous and perpetuates stereotypes.
Living in cognitive dissonance is challenging but can lead to growth and change.
There is a need for liberation from hateful rhetoric against LGBTQIA+ individuals within denominations and churches.
Flourishing and full participation should be possible for all members of the community.
Recognizing and amplifying the work of queer scholars and biblical scholarship is important.
Biblical scholarship has a significant impact on shaping Christian culture.
Faith should be a catalyst for social justice and dismantling systems of oppression.
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Christina Dent, author of the book, Curious: A Foster Mom’s Discovery of an Unexpected Solution to Drug Addiction, shares the journey that changed her perspective on drugs and addiction. Ultimately, it led her to start the organization End It For Good. She discusses the importance of understanding the underlying causes of addiction and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy.
Takeaways
Changing deeply ingrained beliefs and challenging the status quo can be difficult but necessary.
There are financial incentives that perpetuate the current drug policy system.
Faith can play a role in shaping one's perspective on addiction and compassion.
A more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy is needed.
Legal regulation is crucial to ensure consumer safety and reduce crime related to drug addiction.
Accessible healthcare, livable wages, and social infrastructure are essential in supporting individuals with addiction.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:31 Changing Perspectives on Drugs and Addiction
08:19 Challenging the Status Quo in Drug Policy
13:16 The Role of Faith in Shaping Perspectives
23:46 The Need for a Compassionate and Evidence-Based Approach
28:45 Approaching Loved Ones with Addiction
31:32 The Ineffectiveness of Arresting Drug Dealers
35:29 Addressing Contaminated Drugs through Legal Regulation
39:36 The Need for Accessible Healthcare and Livable Wages
46:36 Switzerland's Innovative Approaches to Drug Addiction
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In this conversation, Tim and April discuss Taylor Swift's new album and the criticism it has received from some conservative Christians. They address the accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft, as well as the critique of explicit lyrics. They also highlight the hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music. The conversation reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation and the need for self-reflection within religious communities. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the misconceptions and misunderstandings surrounding the concepts of witchcraft, demons, and Christian nationalism. They critique the views of Sean Feucht, a Christian musician and activist, who uses buzzwords like witches and demons without fully understanding their historical and cultural contexts. They also highlight the financial motivations behind Feucht's activism and his association with other controversial figures like Mark Driscoll and Eric Metaxas. The conversation touches on the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the role of Christian Zionism, as well as the harmful effects of fear-based ideologies and the importance of respecting individual beliefs.
Takeaways
The criticism of Taylor Swift's album by conservative Christians reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation.
Accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft are based on selective reading and misinterpretation of lyrics.
The hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music exposes the double standards within some religious communities.
Misunderstandings and misconceptions about witchcraft and demons are prevalent, often fueled by a lack of historical and cultural context.
Some Christian activists, like Sean Feucht, use buzzwords without fully understanding their meanings, leading to misrepresentations and fear-based ideologies.
Christian nationalism often promotes a narrow and exclusionary view of Christianity, disregarding the diversity of beliefs within the faith.
Respecting individual beliefs and avoiding the imposition of one's own beliefs on others is crucial for fostering understanding and dialogue.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Mispronunciations
07:06 Engaging with Different Perspectives on LGBTQ+ Affirmation
27:27 Sean Feucht's Urgent Message and Misguided Critiques
35:26 The Subjectivity of Art Interpretation and the Need for Self-Reflection
45:52 Navigating the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with Nuance
52:56 Respecting Individual Beliefs and Avoiding Imposition
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Tim recaps his experience attending the Exiles in Babylon conference and shares his thoughts on the event. The conference covered various topics such as Israel and Palestine, deconstruction and reconstruction, women and patriarchy, LGBTQ+ issues, and politics in the church. Tim discusses the controversy surrounding the event due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues. He shares his own conflicted perspective on the matter. Tim also highlights the diversity of speakers and attendees at the conference and the positive conversations that took place.
Takeaways
The Exiles in Babylon conference covered a range of topics that are currently in the cultural zeitgeist.
The event was controversial due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues.
The conference had a diverse range of speakers and attendees, fostering positive and thought-provoking conversations.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Gratitude
06:32 Tim's Role at the Conference
10:34 Protesters and Criticism
15:47 The Burden of Side B Perspectives
25:40 Changing Perspectives and Encouragement
29:47 Supporting the Work of Project Amplify
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Bri Stensrud, founder of Women of Welcome, and author of the book, Starts with Welcome: The Journey Toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation, discusses her passion for the immigration conversation and how it changed her personal and professional life. Bri reflects on the disconnect between the evangelical culture she grew up in and the reality of the immigration issue, and how it led her to question her faith, politics, and personal life.
Takeaways
The immigration conversation is complex and goes beyond legal and illegal distinctions; it involves understanding the holistic stories of individuals affected by violence, corrupt governments, and civil war.
The evangelical culture often prioritizes self-preservation and curated spaces over sacrificially living for others, which can lead to a disconnect between faith and compassionate action.
Compassion for immigrants and refugees is not a political stance but a prophetic movement rooted in the teachings of Jesus.
Engaging in the immigration conversation requires holding elected officials accountable, advocating for change, and recognizing that no political platform aligns perfectly with pro-immigrant values. Meeting people where they are in their understanding of immigration issues is important for fostering compassion and understanding.
Chapters
00:00 The Transformative Power of Encounters
03:46 The Disconnect Between Evangelical Culture and the Reality of the Immigration Issue
08:41 Moving Beyond Legal vs. Illegal
12:18 The Need for a Prophetic Movement: Compassion as a Spiritual Responsibility
27:53 Compassion and Understanding in Immigration Conversations
30:24 Starts with Welcome: A Faith-Filled Perspective on Immigration
33:44 Addressing the Broken Immigration System and the Need for Reform
41:37 Proximity and Compassion: Essential Elements in Immigration Advocacy
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In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent.
Takeaways
Apologies should be genuine and not copied from others
Using the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynistic
Mark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seeking
The reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs.
Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book.
There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women.
John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result.
The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting
07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism
31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions
43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to Repent
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book by Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' They explore the potential impact of the book and the various reactions it has received. They also discuss the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and the need for an apology. They consider the strategic implications of the book and its potential to shift the conversation in white evangelical spaces. They highlight the importance of listening to the voices of queer Christian scholars and the potential for the book to provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the complexities of personal beliefs and the influence of family and media. They explore the idea of holding contradictory views and the importance of integration and growth.
Takeaways
Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, has written a book titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.'
The book has received various reactions, ranging from skepticism to hopefulness.
It is important to acknowledge the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and to apologize for the damage done.
The book has the potential to make a significant impact in white evangelical spaces, particularly among the rank and file members of churches.
The strategic implications of the book should be considered, as it may provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:47 Reactions and Expectations
26:52 Validation and Support for Navigating Faith and Sexuality
42:28 The Importance of Integration and Growth
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Sharon McMahon discusses her background. She emphasizes the importance of pluralism and focusing on behaviors rather than beliefs. She shares her passion for government and history, as well as the process of writing her book The Small and the Mighty.
Takeaways
Engaging with different perspectives can be challenging but is essential for personal growth and learning.
Online harassment is a significant issue, with women and minorities often facing more severe threats and abuse.
Christian nationalism is a threat to democracy, with some proponents advocating for authoritarianism and the exclusion of certain groups.
Polarization in American politics is not new, but the current era is unique due to factors such as the internet and media fragmentation.
The founding of America was not explicitly intended to be a Christian nation, and the principles of democracy should be prioritized over religious affiliation.
When voting, it is important to consider a candidate's character, commitment to democratic principles, and long-term impact rather than focusing solely on specific policies.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 Questioning Faith and Beliefs
06:04 Pluralism and Behaviors
09:56 Dealing with Misinformation and Fake Experts
14:56 Passion for Government and History
21:47 Challenges of Being a Content Creator
32:44 Engaging with Different Perspectives
35:38 The Meanest Group on the Internet
41:21 Polarization in American History
45:02 Christian Nationalism and its Impact
51:21 The Founding of America and Christian Influence
01:02:18 Critical Thinking in the Voting Process
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In this conversation, Tim responds to a viral clip of a mega church pastor giving marriage advice. He critiques the pastor's perspective on marriage, particularly the gendered and stereotypical views that men don't care about weddings and women's bodies belong to their husbands. Tim argues that this mentality wreaks havoc on people, especially women, and promotes unhealthy dynamics in marriages. He also discusses the damaging effects of purity culture and the lack of comprehensive sex education in evangelicalism. Tim concludes by urging for a more mutual and respectful approach to marriage.
Takeaways
Gendered and stereotypical views in marriage advice can be harmful and promote unhealthy dynamics.
Purity culture teachings can lead to unsatisfactory sex lives and unhealthy marriages.
Comprehensive sex education and open communication are essential for a healthy and mutual marriage.
Mutuality and respect should be prioritized in marriages, rather than rigid gender roles.
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker interviews Reverend Susan Langner, who was the subject of a YouTube video where a young man confronts her for being a female LGBTQ affirming pastor. They discuss the incident, the challenges of being a woman in ministry, and their different experiences with the Bible. Susan shares her upbringing in a progressive church and the importance of questioning and open-mindedness. They also explore the cultural context of biblical stories and the need for deeper understanding. The conversation highlights the tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more nuanced approaches to faith. In this conversation, Tim and Susan discuss the challenges of interpreting scripture accurately and the cultural assumptions and nuances that can be missed. They explore the impact of fundamentalism and the need for good faith dialogue. They also touch on the experiences of women in ministry and the misogyny and sexism they face. The conversation delves into the themes of deconstruction, the reconciling of conflicting beliefs, and the importance of creating inclusive spaces. They also discuss the power of music in worship and the need for more theologically rich and inclusive songs.
Takeaways
The incident of the YouTube video highlights the challenges faced by women in ministry and the backlash they can receive from more conservative Christians.
Susan's upbringing in a progressive church allowed her to question and explore different interpretations of the Bible, leading to a more nuanced understanding of faith.
Understanding the cultural context of biblical stories is crucial for a deeper interpretation and can challenge traditional understandings.
The tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more open-minded approaches to faith is an ongoing struggle in many religious communities. Interpreting scripture accurately requires an understanding of cultural assumptions and nuances.
Fundamentalism often prioritizes owning and destroying opposing arguments rather than engaging in good faith dialogue.
Women in ministry frequently face misogyny and sexism, but there are supportive congregations as well.
Deconstruction involves questioning and reevaluating beliefs, which can be a painful but liberating process.
Creating inclusive spaces and worship experiences is essential for embracing diversity and fostering a sense of belonging.
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In this conversation, Tim and April discuss negative reviews Tim has received for his podcast and delve into the topic of prophecy. They also analyze a controversial statement made by pastor Josh Howerton about women's roles on their wedding night. The conversation highlights the unrealistic expectations and harmful stereotypes perpetuated by purity culture and the need for open and honest discussions about sex and relationships. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the harmful rhetoric and misinformation spread by Christian nationalists. They also delve into the controversy surrounding President Joe Biden's recognition of the Trans Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday, which sparked outrage among Christian nationalists. The conversation exposes the hypocrisy and disingenuousness of these individuals, who claim to be defending Christianity while promoting hate and discrimination. The hosts emphasize the need for critical thinking and a more compassionate approach to faith.
Takeaways
The statement made by pastor Josh Howerton about women's roles on their wedding night perpetuates harmful stereotypes and unrealistic expectations.
Purity culture can create unrealistic expectations and hinder healthy discussions about sex and relationships.
Open and honest conversations about sex and relationships are necessary to challenge harmful beliefs and promote healthy attitudes. Harmful rhetoric and misinformation perpetuated by Christian nationalists can have damaging effects on individuals and communities.
The controversy surrounding President Joe Biden's recognition of the Trans Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday highlights the intolerance and discrimination of Christian nationalists.
Christian nationalists often prioritize their own interests and beliefs over the well-being and rights of marginalized groups.
A more compassionate and critical approach to faith is needed to counteract the harmful influence of Christian nationalism.
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In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Randal Rauser respond to a video from the Within Reason Podcast hosted by atheist Alex O'Connor, in which he discusses William Lane Craig's defense of the Canaanite slaughter in the Bible. They discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children and the justification of genocide. They also explore the concept of divine command morality and its implications for moral intuitions. The conversation raises questions about the consistency of God's moral commands and the trustworthiness of moral intuition. In this conversation, Tim and Randall discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children in the Bible. They explore the theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig and critique them, highlighting the moral repugnance of such actions. They also discuss the impact on the soldiers who carried out these commands and the potential dangers of interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context. The conversation raises important questions about the nature of morality and the role of religion in shaping ethical beliefs.
Takeaways
The theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig for God commanding the killing of innocent children are morally repugnant.
Interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context can lead to dangerous justifications for violence and harm.
Religious beliefs need to be critically analyzed along with their implications for moral decision-making.
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In this conversation, Tim, Janice, and Ashlee discuss their origin story and how they connected on social media. They delve into the pitfalls of social media deconstruction content creation, grifters, what healthy accountability looks like, and why caution when choosing who to platform is critical. They also discuss why decolonizing is essential to the work of deconstruction and needs to be prioritized in progressive christian communities.
Takeaways
Learning from past mistakes is crucial for personal growth and building healthy relationships.
The pitfalls of social media include the pressure to constantly create content and the temptation to monetize and exploit others' pain.
Accountability is essential in the online space, and it is important to question the motives and actions of those in positions of influence.
Platforming those who have previously caused harm should be approached with nuance, considering the potential for redemption and growth, while also holding individuals accountable for ongoing patterns of harm.
Recognize the privilege and power dynamics in content creation, particularly for white men, and actively work to amplify marginalized voices. Decolonization is a process that takes time, and it is important to be open to learning from mistakes and engaging with diverse perspectives.
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In this episode, Tim and Andrew L. Whitehead discuss recent events related to Christian nationalism. They start by examining Donald Trump's attempt to sell a Bible during Holy Week, highlighting the disconnect between his actions and his claims of faith. They then delve into the concept of Christian nationalism and its association with persecution. The conversation shifts to the Society for American Civic Renewal, a men-only group aiming to reshape America as a conservative Christian nation. Finally, they explore Project 2025, a collection of right-wing groups seeking to implement a policy plan that promotes Christian nationalism. The conversation explores the themes of Christian nationalism and power, the research on Christian nationalism, the interpretation of Christian nationalism, the Christian persecution complex, the connection between Christian nationalism and gifts of the spirit, the meaning of Good Friday in relation to Christian nationalism, and personal palette cleansers.
Takeaways
Donald Trump's attempt to sell a Bible during Holy Week highlights the disconnect between his actions and his claims of faith.
Christian nationalism often involves a closed system of thinking that prioritizes a particular expression of Christianity and views other perspectives as threats.
The Society for American Civic Renewal is a men-only group that seeks to reshape America as a conservative Christian nation, emphasizing patriarchal leadership and hierarchy.
Project 2025 is a collection of right-wing groups that aims to implement a policy plan promoting Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is about consolidating power and maintaining power for the in-group at the expense of out-groups.
Research shows that a significant percentage of people believe Christian nationalism is a smear term, but also believe it is the only idea that will save the nation.
Good Friday represents the idea of divesting power for the sake of others, while Christian nationalism seeks to build crosses for enemies instead of loving them.
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In this episode, Tim responds to a clip from John Mark Comer discussing the reasons why people deconstruct their faith. Tim critiques Comer's points and offers his own insights. He highlights the importance of addressing church abuse and unaccountable spaces, the impact of poor teaching and shoddy theology, the misconceptions about sin and sexual morality, and bad arguments about the influence of social pressure and leftist ideologies, and the role of demonic oppression in deconstruction.
Takeaways
Church abuse and unaccountable spaces can lead to deconstruction.
Poor teaching and shoddy theology can cause people to reject Christianity.
Misconceptions about sin and sexual morality can drive individuals to reevaluate their faith.
Demonic oppression, the desire to "sin more", and social pressure are not the widespread causes of deconstruction.
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Brian McLaren discusses his new book, Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart, that addresses the multiple crises facing our world, including climate change, white Christian nationalism, and ecological overshoot. McLaren emphasizes the feeling of doom that many people experience and the need for a deep spiritual transformation to address the root problem.
Takeaways
Denial and misinformation about climate change are fueled by economic interests, partisan affiliations, and ideological biases.
Theological arguments, such as the belief in the imminent return of Jesus, can hinder environmental stewardship. Disembedding our identity from the values of our current civilization is crucial for envisioning life after doom.
Renewing our minds and adopting a different set of assumptions and values can lead to personal transformation.
Rediscovering indigenous wisdom can provide valuable insights into our interconnectedness with the earth and the need for a holistic approach to environmental stewardship.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:29 The Poly Crisis
06:01 The Root Problem: Ecological Overshoot
10:01 The Motivation Behind Denial
11:28 The Theological Argument
16:28 The Influence of Conservative Media
21:52 The Impact of Rapture Theology
29:35 Life After Doom
30:17 Disembedding Identity
32:18 The Bible and the End of Civilization
33:37 Coping with the End of Civilization
36:19 Bringing Good News
38:10 Addressing Pressing Issues
41:19 Voting and Talking About Concerns
45:24 Business and Science as Agents of Change
49:02 Religion's Role in the Transformation
50:20 Rediscovering Indigenous Wisdom
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In this episode, Tim and April introduce their new segment, TNE Recaps, where they discuss and provide humorous commentary on current events. They start by reviewing and voting on the Tweet of the Week, which includes tweets from Nancy Piercy, Joel Berry, and Alex Jones. They then discuss a controversial statement made by Donald Trump at a rally, where he referred to the January 6th rioters as 'hostages.' Finally, they dive into the world of end-times prophecy, focusing on the upcoming solar eclipse on April 8th and the various interpretations and predictions surrounding it.
Takeaways
The TNE Recaps segment provides a lighthearted and humorous take on current events.
Social media posts from prominent figures can often contain misinformation and conspiracy theories.
End-times prophecy can lead to anxiety and a lack of focus on important issues in the present.
It is important to critically evaluate and fact-check claims made by religious leaders and public figures.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Segment Overview
02:56 Introducing April Ajoy as Co-host
06:11 Tweet of the Week
23:14 Prophecy of the Week: April 8th Solar Eclipse
41:04 Closing Remarks and Audience Feedback
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In this conversation, Tim and Kevin Carnahan review a sermon by Ed Young, a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. The sermon includes xenophobic rhetoric and misinformation about immigration. They discuss the misinterpretation of parables, the intertwining of Texas culture and Christian nationalism, and the false narrative surrounding immigration. They also address the flawed logic of equating socialism with dictatorship. Overall, the conversation highlights the dangers of using religious platforms to spread divisive and harmful ideologies. In this conversation, the host and guest discuss immigration and border security. They address misconceptions about immigration, such as the idea that immigrants are flooding the country to change the voting demographic. They also highlight the role of Republicans in blocking border security bills and the mischaracterization of Joe Biden's immigration policies. The conversation delves into false claims about gangs and crime, as well as the use of anecdotal evidence to make broad generalizations. The guest's sermon is critiqued for its anti-intellectualism and failure to consider other perspectives. The conversation highlights the ambiguity of the call for a great awakening.
Takeaways
Misinterpretation of parables can lead to distorted messages and harmful ideologies.
The intertwining of Texas culture and Christian nationalism can perpetuate harmful rhetoric.
The false narrative surrounding immigration can perpetuate xenophobia and misinformation.
Anecdotal evidence should not be used to make broad generalizations about immigrants.
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Jim Wallis is author of several books that discuss the rise of white Christian nationalism and its threat to democracy. He calls for a remnant church that stands against Christian nationalism and works towards justice and equality.
Takeaways
White Christian nationalism is a political takeover of evangelicalism that poses a threat to democracy.
Building a new American church requires multiracial, multifaith, and multigenerational coalitions.
Faith and hope are essential in the fight against Christian nationalism and the pursuit of justice.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:01 Political Takeover of Evangelicalism
03:21 Jim Wallis’ Journey
06:15 Learning from Black Churches
08:09 Rediscovering the Teachings of Jesus
09:08 The Importance of Defeating Christian Nationalism
10:08 The Threat to Democracy
11:31 White Christian Nationalism: Extreme or Cyclical?
16:19 The Good Samaritan Parable
23:53 Shining the Light of Truth
28:15 The Remnant Church
31:31 The Hope of a New Generation
39:30 The Power of Faith and Hope
51:03 Conclusion and Call to Action
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In this episode, Tim delves into the case against John MacArthur, a well-known pastor and theologian. He discusses MacArthur's views on slavery, and highlights MacArthur's legacy of protecting men in his church who have been accused of sexual abuse. Tim presents evidence of MacArthur's knowledge of the abuse and his failure to take appropriate action. This conversation exposes the disturbing actions and responses of John MacArthur and Grace Community Church (GCC) in cases of child abuse within their congregation. The chapters cover MacArthur's dismissive response to Wendy's accusations, the confrontation and revelation of Paul Guay's abuse, GCC's inadequate response to the abuse, MacArthur's involvement and contradictory statements, MacArthur's public shaming of Eileen Gray, the elders' dismissal of Gray's abuse allegations, David Gray's conviction and MacArthur's support, Alistair Begg's controversial advice and MacArthur's response, and the lack of accountability for MacArthur's actions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Schedule Changes
04:37 The Case Against John MacArthur
09:20 John MacArthur's Views on Slavery
26:24 John MacArthur's Response to Wendy's Accusations
27:21 Confrontation and Revelation of Paul Guay's Abuse
28:18 Grace Brethren Church's Response to Paul Guay's Abuse
29:14 John MacArthur's Involvement and Affidavit
30:13 John MacArthur's Denial and Affidavit
32:04 John MacArthur's Public Shaming of Eileen Gray
32:59 Elders' Response to Eileen Gray's Abuse Allegations
34:34 David Gray's Conviction and John MacArthur's Support
44:33 Alistair Begg's Controversial Advice and John MacArthur's Response
49:12 John MacArthur's Lack of Accountability
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Tim is joined by Billie Hoard to watch and respond to Libs of TikTok creator Chaya Raichik’s DISASTER of an interview with Taylor Lorenz in what is a masterclass of learning how propaganda words and how empty its rhetoric is.
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Sarah McCammon discusses her book, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church, and her personal journey of leaving the white evangelical church. She explores the reasons for writing the book and the motivations behind the exvangelical movement.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:05 Motivation for Writing the Book
04:31 Reasons for Leaving the Evangelical Church
10:07 Themes Explored in the Book
17:31 Understanding Evangelicalism in the Media
33:39 Debunking the Notion of Exvangelicals as Anti-Religion
40:22 The Rise of Protestantism
42:45 The Impact of the Internet
45:30 A Shift in Evangelicalism
48:02 The Weaponization of Religion
48:58 Empathy and Understanding
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In this episode, Tim delves into the PRRI data on Christian nationalism, highlighting the percentage of Americans who adhere to or reject Christian nationalist views. Tim explores the geographical breakdown of Christian nationalism support, its correlation with political affiliation, and the interpretation of Christian nationalism in the black community.
Takeaways
Christian nationalism is supported by approximately 30% of Americans, with 10% being adherents and 20% being sympathizers.
Support for Christian nationalism is higher in Republican-leaning states and among white evangelical Protestants.
Black Christian nationalists interpret the five statements used to measure Christian nationalist views differently, focusing on the fight for equity rather than taking over and using power to control others.
Christian nationalism is correlated with support for Trump, far-right news sources, and apocalyptic views of political struggle.
Engaging with adherents of Christian nationalism may be challenging, but there may be opportunities to persuade sympathizers.
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Thomas Jay Oord discuss the book 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' by Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett. They explore themes such as the concept of objective truth, the ambiguity of scripture, the role of subjectivity in interpretation, the problem of selective objectivity, the complexity of biblical interpretation, the inconsistencies in fundamentalist Christian beliefs, reasons for deconstruction, the inadequate responses to deconstruction, the contradictions in the authors' arguments, the flawed application of a modernist lens, the need for a standard outside of scripture, and the logical conclusion of Jesus' divinity. This conversation explores the problematic arguments presented in the book 'Why I Still Believe' by Tim Barnett and J. P. Moreland. The hosts discuss the weak arguments for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him. They also critique the book's emphasis on unquestioning biblical authority and the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The conversation delves into the fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life. The hosts highlight the problematic labeling of deconstructors as "captured" and the either/or approach to love. Thomas Oord also discussed his upcoming book on deconstruction and offers a different perspective on the topic.
Takeaways
The concept of objective truth and the role of subjectivity in interpretation are crucial in understanding deconstruction.
The ambiguity of scripture and the complexities of biblical interpretation challenge the idea of a singular, objective truth.
The authors' arguments in 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' often lack consistency and fail to address the complexities and nuances of the issues they discuss.
The need for a standard outside of scripture and the recognition of the fruit of beliefs are important considerations in evaluating the validity of certain theological claims.
The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges and debates surrounding deconstruction and the search for certainty in matters of faith. The arguments presented in 'Why I Still Believe' for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him are weak and unconvincing.
Questioning biblical authority does not equate to deconstructing it, and it is important to recognize the role of humans in interpreting the Bible.
The fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life can hinder the process of deconstruction.
Love should not be reduced to standing for truth or empathy alone, but should aim for overall well-being and flourishing.
There is a need for a book that offers guidance and support to friends and parents of deconstructors, helping them navigate the process with empathy and understanding.
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Bill Yoh, a member of one of America's wealthiest families, shares his journey from the business world to working in nonprofit and faith-based spaces. Bill emphasizes the importance of faith becoming the central part of life and using his privilege to serve the underserved.
Takeaways
Engaging in dialogue and civil discourse is essential for bridging the division in society.
Faith can be integrated into business through servant leadership and ensuring just wages for employees.
Mission trips can challenge preconceived notions and provide opportunities for personal growth and service.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:51 Turning Point: Mom's Passing and Faith Awakening
06:08 Moments of Awakening: Overseas Mission Trip and Pandemic
09:01 Faith Transformation and Division in Society
14:56 Faith in Business and Reconciling Wealth
21:01 Mission Trips and Challenging Perceptions
22:34 Providing Food and Building Relationships
26:12 Charity vs. Systemic Change
30:26 Ministry and Evangelism
34:22 Philanthropy and Working with People of Means
39:37 Best Cheesesteak in Philly
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Andrew Whitehead joins Tim to talk about the brand new PRRI data on Christian Nationalism and how it will impact this year's 2024 election.
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Billie Hoard discuss recent cases of violence against trans people and the hostile environment they face. They highlight the controversial mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral and the case of Next Benedict, a non-binary teenager who died after being bullied. They also explore the role of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust in perpetuating discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. The conversation emphasizes the power of disgust in fueling fascism and the social spread of disgust. This conversation explores the concept of disgust and its impact on society, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community. It highlights the contrast between Jesus' acceptance and the Christian disgust towards queer individuals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the gospel as good news and the need to transform disgust into love and acceptance. It also discusses the power of love and intimacy in decreasing disgust reactions. The conversation delves into the dangers of accounts like Libs of TikTok and the real-world consequences they can have, as demonstrated by Billie's personal experience. Billie shares her personal experience of facing false accusations and a targeted campaign to remove her from her teaching position. The conversation also discusses the misrepresentation of video footage and the dangerous consequences of stigmatizing safe spaces for LGBTQ+ students. The role of Haya, the creator of Libs of TikTok, in shaping educational policies is examined, highlighting the lack of expertise and integrity in her involvement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of standing against Christian nationalism and advocating for comprehensive sex education and queer rights.
Takeaways
The intersection of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust contributes to the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community.
Addressing the systemic issues that perpetuate violence and discrimination against trans people requires challenging and dismantling Christian nationalist ideologies. Disgust can be a harmful emotion when it is directed towards individuals or groups, particularly the LGBTQ+ community.
The gospel should be driving Christians towards inclusion and acceptance, rather than disgust and rejection.
Love and intimacy have the power to decrease disgust reactions and foster understanding and acceptance.
The misrepresentation of video footage can be used to stigmatize and harm LGBTQ+ individuals and their safe spaces.
It is crucial to stand against Christian nationalism and advocate for comprehensive sex education and the rights of queer individuals.
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Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson discuss their book, Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice, and the work they do with Undivided, a nonprofit organization focused on racial justice. They emphasize the importance of relationships, community, and personal transformation in the pursuit of racial healing and justice especially within the church.
Takeaways
The church has a crucial role to play in countering white Christian nationalism and fostering racial healing and justice.
Empowering people and helping them move from feeling powerless to claiming power and community is essential for justice.
Understanding power and its potential for manipulation and abuse is crucial in the pursuit of racial justice.
Moving past debates and taking action is more important than dissecting words and terms.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:42 The Journey to Undivided
06:26 What is Undivided?
08:22 Challenges in Bridging the Gap
19:25 The Role of the Church
25:20 The Power of Relationships
33:03 What is Living Undivided about?
37:08 Pragmatic Approaches to Change
40:13 The Role of the Church in Racial Injustice
42:31 Understanding Power and its Abuses
42:50 Resistance to Change in Church Contexts
44:18 Creating a Space for Courageous Leadership
45:15 Moving Past Debates and Taking Action
46:15 Racial Healing and Demonstrating the Way of Jesus
47:34 The Future of White Evangelicalism
49:43 Opportunities and Risks in Faith Communities
50:22 Connecting with the Undivided Movement
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Leah Payne, PhD. discuss her book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You, that outlines the origins and impact of contemporary Christian music (CCM). They explore the power of music in religious experiences and the potential for manipulation in revivalist moments as well as the complicated relationship with problematic artists and the ethical dilemma of singing their songs.
Takeaways
Contemporary Christian music (CCM) has a diverse range of genres and subgenres, making it difficult to define and categorize.
The use of music in political and nationalist movements can be both inspiring and concerning, as it can rally people around a cause.
The Christian music market has become more complex, with different subgroups of
genres.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and New Year's Recap
06:25 The Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You
09:15 The Origins of Contemporary Christian Music
22:23 The Manipulative Potential of Revivalist Moments
25:21 The Use of Music in Political and Nationalist Movements
29:25 The Complicated Relationship with Problematic Artists
36:30 Navigating the Ethical Dilemma of Singing Problematic Songs
41:28 The Rise of Worship Bands
43:04 The Impact of the Internet on Christian Music
56:06 The Influence of Aesthetics on Evangelical Culture
59:39 The Decline of Christian Bookstores
01:02:28 Where to Find Leah Payne
Read Leah Payne's Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music
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In this episode, Tim shares his thoughts on the He Gets Us Super Bowl commercial.
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Dr. Nancy Pearcey, author of 'The Toxic War on Masculinity' claimed in a recent podcast interview that women’s suffrage was a net loss and that Christian marriages are healthier than their non-christian counterparts. Tim brings on Sheila Gregoire, author of 'The Great Sex Rescue' along with Dr. Beth Allison Barr, author of 'The Making of Biblical Womanhood' to respond.
A followup from Dr. Beth Allison Barr
Resources
- Susan Ware, Why They Marched: Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote (Cambridge, MA: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press)
- Anita Anand, Sophia: Princess, Suffragette, Revolutionary (New York: Bloomsbury)
- Manuela Thurner, “’Better Citizens without the Ballot’: American AntiSuffrage Women and Their Rationale During the Progressive Era,” Journal of Women’s History 5:1 (Spring 1993), 33-60
- Hallie Rubenhold, The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper (New York: Mariner Books An Imprint of HarperCollins)
- Martha S. Jones, Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All (New York: Basic Books)
Websites
- https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/07/07/a-century-after-women-gained-the-right-to-vote-majority-of-americans-see-work-to-do-on-gender-equality/
- https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/votes-women-means-votes-black-women
- https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm#_edn33
- https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/naows-opposition#:~:text=Some%20argued%20women%20lacked%20the,By%20Allison%20Lange%2C%20Ph
Also
- Susan Ware, American Women’s Suffrage: Voices from the Long Struggle for the Vote, 1776-1965 (New York: Penguin Random House)
- Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920 (Bloomington: Indiana University Press)
- Ellen Carol Dubois, Suffrage: Women’s Long Battle for the Vote (New York: Simon & Schuster)
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Pastor Trey Ferguson discusses his book, Theologizin' Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly, that explores the themes of the black church tradition, the interpretation of the Bible, and the impact of white supremacy on Christianity.
Takeaways
The fullness of God cannot be confined to any one particular tradition.
The black church tradition recognizes the reality of being black in the United States as a valid starting point for discussions about God.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 The Premise of the Book: Theologizing Bigger
08:16 The Black Church Tradition
20:13 The White Man's Religion
25:58 Imagination and Theologizing
40:05 Imagination for a Better World
44:14 Resisting Shame and Embracing Humility
45:06 Honoring Tradition and Relating to God
47:02 Solidarity and Compassion
49:14 The Expansiveness of God and Humility
52:06 Respecting Differences and Finding Shalom
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In this conversation, Tim and Keith discuss the topic of universal reconciliation and respond to the claim that it is not a biblical or Christian perspective. They explore various themes, including the historical context of universalism, the views of early church fathers, and the nature of God. They also address the theological critiques of universalism, such as the connection between conditionalism and universalism. In this conversation, Tim and Keith discuss the concept of universal reconciliation and respond to critiques of the belief. They explore the idea of having the mind of Christ and the importance of humility. They address theological and philosophical critiques of universalism, including the claim that it originated from Gnosticism and Kabbalah. They also discuss the problem of grace and how universalists interpret biblical passages differently. The conversation highlights the different hermeneutic approaches used by universalists and the challenges of interpreting Paul's writings. They conclude by addressing verses that seem to support eternal punishment.
Takeaways
Universalism is not a radical or heretical view, but rather a valid and biblical perspective within the Christian tradition.
The early church fathers, including Origen, held views of universal reconciliation, and the label of heresy was not applied until much later.
The connection between conditionalism and universalism is not a slippery slope, and each view has its own distinct theological arguments.
The theological critiques of universalism can be addressed through a deeper understanding of the nature and character of God. Having the mind of Christ involves humility and the willingness to lower oneself for the sake of others.
The claim that universalism originated from Gnosticism and Kabbalah is unfounded and lacks evidence.
The problem of grace in universalism is a misunderstanding; extending grace to everyone does not diminish its value.
Universalists interpret biblical passages differently, often using apocalyptic hyperbole and spiritual readings.
Paul's writings can be interpreted in different ways, but the concept of universal reconciliation is supported by various passages.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage
08:09 Claim 1: Universalism is Radical
15:19 Claim 2: Origen and the Label of Heresy
23:41 Claim 3: Connection between Conditionalism and Universalism
34:49 Theological Critiques of Universalism: The Problem of God
47:12 The Mind of Christ and Humility
48:37 Critiques of Universalism
49:37 Guilt by Association
53:41 The Problem of Grace
57:25 Different Hermeneutic Approaches
01:13:23 Interpreting Paul's Writings
01:18:04 Addressing Verses on Punishment
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Dr. James McGrath wrote the book, A to Z of the New Testament: Things Experts Know That Everyone Else Should Too, to help lay people with information about the NT from the cultural context. Tim and Dr. McGrath discuss the benefits that help us understand details that put scripture in context.
Takeaway
The Nativity was about a spare room in Middle Eastern hospitality culture not in a barn
The Birth of Jesus isn’t about Jesus having a human mother and divine Father
Salvation is complex
Sexuality within the Bible is difficult to compare to modern views of sexuality
Chapters
Intro 0:00
What is the NT about 2:00
The Nativity Story 8:00
The Birth Discrepancies 13:01
Creed Christianity 28:02
Salvation 33:15
Questions About Sexuality 43:65
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This conversation between Tim Whitaker and Deconstruction Girl revolves around the topic of deconstruction within Christianity. They discuss the misunderstandings and misconceptions surrounding deconstruction, the validity of deconstructing one's faith, the issue of gatekeeping and labeling, the straw man argument often used against deconstruction, the concept of atonement and sacrifice, the importance of deconstruction, and the futility of arguing with those who are not open to understanding different perspectives. The conversation explores the process of deconstructing faith and responding to questions about it. It delves into the examination of beliefs and the challenges of holding on to faith. The concept of sin and its loaded meaning is discussed, along with the need to expand its definition. The complexity of defining sin is explored, considering its cultural and historical contexts. The conversation also highlights the importance of exposure and normalization of different perspectives. Finally, the response to criticism and the experience of celebrity status are addressed.
Takeaways
Deconstruction is often misunderstood and misrepresented within Christianity.
Deconstructing one's faith is a valid and personal journey that should be respected.
Gatekeeping and labeling can be harmful and dismissive of individual experiences.
The straw man argument is frequently used to undermine the validity of deconstruction.
The concept of atonement and sacrifice in Christianity can be complex and diverse.
Deconstruction plays an important role in personal growth and understanding one's faith.
Arguing with those who are not open to different perspectives can be futile and unproductive. Deconstruction of faith involves examining beliefs and questioning their validity.
The concept of sin is loaded and its definition can vary depending on cultural and historical contexts.
Expanding the definition of sin allows for a more nuanced understanding of its impact.
Exposure to different perspectives can lead to a reevaluation of beliefs and a more inclusive worldview.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 The Misunderstanding of Deconstruction
08:14 The Validity of Deconstruction
13:22 Gatekeeping and Labeling
17:25 The Straw Man Argument
21:59 The Atonement and Sacrifice
26:23 The Importance of Deconstruction
28:06 The Experience of Salvation
32:20 The Futility of Arguing
34:23 Deconstructing Faith and Responding to Questions
35:22 Examining Beliefs and Holding on to Faith
36:10 The Concept of Sin and its Loaded Meaning
37:41 Expanding the Definition of Sin
38:18 Understanding Sin in a Systemic Context
39:15 The Complexity of Defining Sin
40:19 Sin in Different Cultural and Historical Contexts
41:16 Reevaluating the Concept of Sin
42:13 Exposure and Normalization of Different Perspectives
43:32 Celebrity Status and Response to Criticism
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This is a brand new monthly installment featuring Andrew Whitehead who's a leading sociologist of Christian Nationalism.
On this month's episode Tim and Andrew unpack the Christian Nationalism that is fueling the panic at the southern border.
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Tiffany Yecke Brooks, PhD shares her personal journey of growing up in a fundamentalist faith tradition. She discusses the moment she realized something was wrong and how it led her to write a book called Holy Ghosted. She also explains the concept of spiritual anxiety and religious trauma and how churches use them to indoctrinate us.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 Growing Up in a Fundamentalist Faith Tradition
06:00 Questioning Gender Roles and Church Leadership
13:00 Writing a Book Speaking Out
20:00 Understanding Spiritual Anxiety and Religious Trauma
25:00 Setting Boundaries vs. Manipulation and Control
35:00 The Importance of Clarity and Authenticity in Churches
36:13 Exclusion of the Queer Community
37:31 Linguistical Whiplash in Churches
44:30 Building a Healthy Church Community
48:13 The Big Picture and Context
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Summary
In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and political analyst Riley Martinez discuss the New Hampshire primary and its implications for the Republican Party. They explore the voting process in the primaries and the support for both Donald Trump and Nikki Haley. They delve into the significance of the white evangelical vote and the influence of Trumpism within the GOP. The conversation also touches on the war within the party and the election fraud narrative. They highlight immigration as a key issue and discuss Biden's handling of the genocide in Gaza. The conversation concludes with a look at upcoming primaries and Nikki Haley's future in the race.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Catching Up
00:38 The New Hampshire Primary
03:08 Voting in the Primaries
04:34 Support for Trump and Haley
05:46 White Evangelical Vote
06:47 The Republican Party and Trumpism
09:01 The War within the GOP
11:18 The Election Fraud Narrative
13:21 Immigration as a Key Issue
14:20 Biden's Handling of Genocide in Gaza
15:37 Foreign Policy in the Election
15:55 Upcoming Primaries
16:35 Nikki Haley's Future in the Race
17:04 Conclusion
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Summary
In this conversation, Tim and Pete Enns respond to a video discussing deconstruction by Alisa Childers, Tim Barnett, and Sean McDowell. They explore the concept of a biblical worldview and its limitations and the definition and significance of deconstruction. They also discuss the role of biblical authority and the challenges of interpreting and applying scripture.
Pete and Tim explore the nuances of doubt and apologetics, the clash between modernism and postmodernism, the complexity of biblical interpretation, and the challenges of biblical inerrancy. They discuss the role of doubt in faith, the limitations of historical claims in the Bible, and the need for a nuanced understanding of biblical authority. The conversation delves into the rhetoric of war and the labeling of deconstruction as the doctrine of demons.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:48 The Concept of a Biblical Worldview
10:57 Defining Deconstruction
14:07 Deconstruction as a Threat to Christianity
22:25 Deconstruction vs. Being Biblical
28:00 The Modernist Mindset and Biblical Authority
36:23 Objective Truth Claims and Biblical Authority
43:41 The Claim of Jesus as the Only Way
48:24 The Role of Experience and Subjectivity
49:15 The Nuance of Doubt and Apologetics
51:49 The Clash Between Modernism and Postmodernism
53:43 Navigating the Historical Context of Christianity
54:38 The Relationship Between Deconstruction and Subjectivity
55:08 The Complexity of Biblical Inerrancy
56:27 The Role of Doubt in Faith
57:23 Interpreting the Bible and Understanding Biblical Authority
58:49 The Limitations of Historical Claims in the Bible
59:42 The Challenge of Biblical Inerrancy
01:01:30 The Development of Theological Thought
01:02:48 Understanding History in the Bible
01:04:10 The Purpose of History in Biblical Texts
01:06:03 The Complexity of Biblical Interpretation
01:08:49 Taking the Bible Seriously
01:14:12 Questioning the Authenticity of Faith
01:18:47 Recognizing Spiritual Abuse
01:20:39 Misunderstanding the Concept of Child Sacrifice
01:32:01 Addressing Abuse within the Church
01:36:06 The Need for Biblical Literacy and Theology
01:37:55 The Importance of Orthopraxy
01:41:39 Empathy and Support for Deconstruction
01:44:10 The Rhetoric of War and "The Doctrine of Demons"
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In this podcast, Mattie Jo Cowsert discusses her book God, Sex & Rich People: A Recovering Evangelical Testimony, with Tim. Mattie Jo explains her background in evangelicalism and the influence of purity culture on her beliefs and sexuality. She and Tim explore the need to challenge systemic issues and prioritize social justice over religious dogma.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
08:16 Questioning Faith and Reclaiming Sexuality
16:04 Deconstructing Christianity and Forming a New Moral Foundation
30:13 Reevaluating Priorities and Challenging Systemic Issues
32:23 The Control and Fear of Purity Culture
36:28 Navigating Sexual Ethics and Boundaries
01:07:23 The Importance of Communication and Planning in a Sexual Relationship
01:14:09 The Role of Communication and Honesty in a Healthy Sexual Relationship
01:16:24 The Fear of Navigating Nuance in the Evangelical Church
01:18:16 Acknowledging the Limitations of the Conversation and Addressing Sexual Abuse
01:19:20 Future Book Plans and Normalizing Conversations about Sex
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This conversation explores the historical context of evangelical opposition to the civil rights movement and draws parallels to contemporary rhetoric. The discussion highlights the similarities between the language used by Charlie Kirk and historical figures who opposed civil rights legislation. It also examines the theological justifications used to discredit the movement and the role of lay preaching in the civil rights movement. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the future of evangelicalism and the ongoing fight for racial justice.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
00:29 Charlie Kirk's Smear Campaign
03:07 Historical Context: Evangelical Opposition to Civil Rights
08:45 Talking Points to Discredit the Civil Rights Movement
14:01 Charlie Kirk's Tweet about MLK
20:12 The Persistence of Racist Rhetoric
25:00 Theological Justifications for Opposition to Civil Rights
31:14 The Role of Lay Preaching in the Civil Rights Movement
33:19 The Future of Evangelicalism and the Fight for Racial Justice
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Summary
Kevin Garcia sits down with Tim to discuss Kevin’s book, What Makes You Bloom: Cultivating a Practice for Connecting with Your Divine Self. They explore the concepts of non-monogamy, community and divine love as healing applications.
Chapters
1:46 Intro into sexual ethics
6:32 Non-Monogamy
15:45 Communication in close relationships
23:23 Building Community outside of the Church
39:06 Inspiration for Kevin’s book
47:24 The root of suffering
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In this episode Tim is joined by Dr. Jemar Tisby, author of The Color of Compromise and How To Fight Racism to discuss Martin Luther King Jr., and the forces in his life which brought him into the spotlight during the civil rights movement. Dr. Tisby explains the whitewashing of MLK today, and the need to understand his true message, which is still deeply relevant.
Takeaways
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In this conversation, Tim Whitaker interviews c about the disqualification of Donald Trump from the Colorado ballot and the definition of insurrection. They discuss the legal basis for disqualification under the 14th Amendment and the role of the courts in determining eligibility for office. They also address the argument of tyranny and the potential for violence in the upcoming 2024 election.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:10 Disqualification from the Colorado Ballot
09:23 Definition of Insurrection
19:23 Chances of Trump Being Off the Ballot
24:20 Addressing the Tyranny Question
31:28 What to Expect in 2024
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Summary
In this conversation, Derek Kubilus discusses the concept of sin as the refusal to love and the importance of understanding it in a broader context. He also explores the difference between purgatory and purgation, emphasizing the idea of refinement and growth in the afterlife. Derek shares his perspective on the salvation of those who have done harm and the essence of the divine in every person. He challenges the notion of eternal damnation and highlights the need to respect the pain of others while recognizing the depth of God's love. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the cognitive dissonance of eternal damnation.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Understanding Sin and Refusal to Love
41:19 Purgatory vs. Purgation
43:32 The Fire of Hell and the Refusal to Love
44:54 Struggling with the Salvation of Those Who Have Done Harm
46:06 The Essence of the Divine in Every Person
47:08 The Redemption of Paul and the Refusal to Give Up on Anyone
49:11 Respecting the Pain of Others and the Depth of God's Love
51:34 The Network of Relationships in Heaven
53:41 The Inconsistency of Praising God While Others Suffer
56:07 The Cognitive Dissonance of Eternal Damnation
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Many think that the insurrection was just about politics but this is not true. The truth is that a shadow network of Christian fundamentalists worked with the Trump administration for over a year. These networks laid the foundation that Trump was on God's side and any result other than his re-election was an attack from the devil. Dr. Matthew Taylor joins Tim Whitaker to expose them.
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Tim explores his recent trip to America Fest as he seeks to understand the conservative Christian movement and those who espouse Christian Nationalism ideology. Tim explains who supports America Fest and its powerful media and political presence. He also explains how they convert conservative Evangelicals and conservatives to their ideology.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with podcast producer Noah and TNE community member Kieran to discuss some of the highlights of the podcast in 2023, and how the show will continue to evolve in the new year. They also discus Project Amplify's mission to platform experts and scholars who are offering better paths forward and an alternative to the dehumanizing theological and political rhetoric filling our news feeds. Kieran also discusses his experience growing up in Catholic and Methodist circles, the shifts in his faith that led him to the work he does today, and how he discovered the TNE community.
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In this rebroadcasted episode, Tim talks with Dr. Tripp Fuller about the differing accounts of Jesus' birth in the gospels, and what scholars and seminary students know that you should too! Dr. Fuller, discusses the virgin birth in Matthew and Luke's gospels, and how we can understand their narratives in light of the Jewish and Christian traditions they arose from.
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On this episode Tim is joined by Rev. Nathan Empsall the director of Faithful America. Tim and Rev Nathan talk about sin, why the terminology still matters, why it's more important than ever to resist christian nationalism and where they've seen Christian nationalism defeated in the public square.
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Dr. Laura Anderson, therapist, speaker and author of the new book When Religion Hurts You: Healing from Religious Trauma and the Impact of High-Control Religion, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Dr. Anderson explains her background and why she wrote her book. Tim and Dr. Anderson break down over-used psychological terms and how they should really be applied. They also discuss the difference between spiritual abuse and adverse religious events. Lastly, they discuss what factors create high-control religion and the tools to process the ramifications of that environment.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Palestinian scholars and christians Daniel and Yousef to discuss the current crisis in Gaza, and the ways that American evangelical theology has failed to give us the tools to respond to it. Daniel and Yousef offer a more global perspective on Christian faith and conviction beyond the American left/right binary.
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In this episode Tim sits down with author Gabriel Gordon, to discuss how both liberals and fundamentalists inherited the same colonized method of biblical interpretation. Gabriel explains the anti-semitic aspects of enlightenment theology, and a way of reading the Bible that rejects dualism in liberal and fundamentalist circles.
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On this episode, Tim is joined by Kalie from the center for prophetic imagination to respond to a gospel coalition article where an anonymous author wrote that they love their trans Child but loves Jesus more.
Kalie and Tim discuss why this article is so problematic and how it advocates for the harm of trans people in the name of God.
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Jesse Curtis joins the podcast to talk about his book The Myth of Colorblind Christianity: Evangelicals and the white supremacy in the Civil Rights Era.
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Tim talks to Kayla from the Reclamation Collective about navigating mental health during deconstruction and how to reclaim your autonomy.
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Russell Moore, minister, speaker and author of the new book, Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Russell explains his backstory and what led him to write his book. Tim and Russell discuss what happened after Trump’s election and our current new normal. They also discuss the church’s response to the fracture that caused many to leave conservative Evangelical spaces. Tim and Russell discuss how to call out harmful voices in the church without demonizing them. Lastly, they explore the path forward and what the future may hold for both the church and America.
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Tim talks to Russell Johnson, pastor of Pursuit Northwest in Washington State. Tim and Russell talk about how they met, their strong disagreements and surprising areas of overlap.
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Tim and Dr. Kevin Carnahan go through a Mark Driscoll interview with Russell Johnson to unpack the misleading and at times blatantly false rhetoric said during the interview. Kevin helps us navigate what a faithful Christian Witness says to people who put their allegiance to power and control over the call of Christ.
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Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis, pastor, speaker and author of the new book, Fierce Love: A Bold Path to Ferocious Courage and Rule Breaking-Kindness That Can Heal the World, sits down with Tim to discuss her new book. Rev. Dr. Lewis explains her background and how that led her into ministry. Tim and Rev. Dr. Lewis discuss the reason she wrote her new book and how her own church’s story inspired it. They also discuss how radical kindness can change our approach towards those who promote harm in an ethical fashion. Lastly, they discuss how to tackle complex issues the local community can’t solve.
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On this episode Tim talks to Nancy and Susan, two former IHOP insiders who saw warning signs during their time with the organization. Nancy and Susan explain what’s going on now and why they believe that IHOP will prioritize the organization at the expense of alleged victims at the hands of its leader, Mike Bickle.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Jared Stacy, American pastor and current PhD candidate in Theological Ethics at the University of Aberdeen, to discuss the history of the American evangelical church's connection to the moral majority movement in the 80's, and the deadly combination of gospel rhetoric with conservative propaganda.
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This special episode is a recording of Tripp Fuller's talk at Theology Beer Camp 2023. Tripp shares some milestones in his own deconstruction journey and asks the question: is our understanding of the gospel building crosses, or bearing them?
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Mike Bickle, leader of the International House of Prayer has recently been accused of sexual abuse spanning decades according to a statement written by former IHOP leaders. In this first part out of a two part series Tim brings on Gracia, Tamice and Brantley, three former IHOP students to talk about their experience spending years on the inside. They discuss what drew them to IHOP, the theology and culture that kept them there and what it was like trying to live a normal life once they left.
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Matthias Roberts, therapist and author of the new book, Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Matthias explains his background in Evangelism and why he walked away. Tim and Matthias discuss the reason Matthias wrote his book. They also discuss how the nervous system works in relationship to religious trauma. Lastly, they discuss the possibility for healthy communities centered around Jesus and what they may look like.
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Dr. Matthew Taylor joins Tim to talk about Mike Johnson’s connection to the Christian Supremacist network known as the New Apostolic Reformation whose leaders were key in orchestrating the Jan 6th insurrection.
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Where is TNE headed? What should you expect of the podcast over the next few months? Tim comes on to share what's on the horizon.
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Dr. Ife Williams, African American History scholar and author of the new book Police Brutality: A Philadelphia Story, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Dr. Williams explains her background and what led her to write on the topic of police brutality. Tim and Dr. Williams discuss police brutality in America and the systemic issues that surround it. Lastly, they discuss the possible reforms that would bring meaningful change to the problem of police brutality.
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Tim Whitaker and Sarah Heath debrief from their experience at theology beer camp. They talk about the highs, the lows, the confusing moments and how communion brought up some church memories that they weren’t expecting to navigate.
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Dr. Bruce Benson, philosopher, theologian, professor and author sits down with Tim to discuss the origins of deconstruction. Dr. Benson explains his background and why he chose to study philosophy. Tim and Bruce discuss the difference between analytical and continental philosophy and what discipline deconstruction falls under. They also discuss how Derrida, the father of deconstruction, has been misunderstood by current evangelical pastors. Lastly, they discuss how meaning changes or is discovered in different eras.
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Tim and resident journalist Dan Catchpole speak to Na'ama Barak Wolfman who is a leader in the Women Wage Peace movement. Na'ama gives her insight on how devastating the attacks by Hamas were on the people of Israel. Na'ama also explains how Women Wage Peace has a broad coalition of Muslim, Christian, Jewish, and Palestinian women who are committed to working together in order to find a peaceful resolution of the current crisis that has claimed the lives of the thousands.
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In this episode Tim sits down with Meghan Murphy-Gill: an Episcopal priest and the author of The Sacred Life of Bread: Uncovering the Mystery of an Ordinary Loaf. Meghan explains her journey from Catholicism to the Episcopal church, as well as some of the key differences between Episcopalianism and other Christian traditions. Tim and Meghan discuss what it could mean for God to be present in both deep suffering and the mundane, and how the symbol of bread can point us to valuable spiritual practices.
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In the last part of this series Tim brings on Daniel Bannoura a Christian Palestinian who grew up in the West Bank and who is now pursuing his PHD in America. Daniel gives Tim an insider's perspective about what it's like to live in the West Bank and to have friends in the Gaza Strip. Daniel and Tim talk about the Christian ethic of loving your enemies and what that means living under the occupation of the Israeli Defense Force. Daniel shares some history on Hamas and how they see this conflict and Daniel also explains how American Christians too often erase the lived reality of millions of Palestinians and engage in the dehumanization of the "other".
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In part two of our three part series, Dr. Daniel Hummel joins Tim to talk about Christian Zionism. They discuss what it is, where it came from and the theology that underpins it that has to lead to strong unwavering American support for the nation state of Israel. Dr. Hummel has written a book and several peer reviewed articles on the history of Christian Zionism and is a leading expert in the field.
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Over the weekend Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel leaving hundreds dead and many more wounded. Hamas has taken prisoners and Israel has retaliated by ordering the complete siege of Gaza. How did we get here? What is the history that undergirds the conflict we are seeing today?
This is part one of a three part series hoping to give you a better understanding of the dynamics and history that lead to where we are today. Dr. Kevin Carnahan joins Tim on the podcast to show us how European Imperialism laid the ground work for the conflict that has taken the lives of thousands of men, women and children.
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Dr. David Gushee, professor, scholar and author of the new book, Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Dr. Gushee explains his background and why he wrote his new book. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss why he uses a different term for Christian Nationalism to describe the movement happening around the world. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss how authoritarianism differs from democracy and how easy it is to transition from democracy into authoritarian regimes. Lastly, they discuss the Christian traditions that promoted democratic movements throughout American history.
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Andy Stanley's Church, North Point, hosted a conference put on by Embracing the Journey called Unconditional. The conference was aimed at parents of Queer children helping them navigate a better way forward in their love and affirmation for their kids without compromising their commitment to following Jesus. This triggered the Brovangelicals and they responded in force. Pastor Zach Lamber joins Tim Whitaker to respond to some of the critics who attended the Unconditional Conference Hosted by North Point Church. Were their assessments accurate?
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Caroline J. Sumlin, educator, speaker and author of the new book, We’ll All Be Free: How a Culture of White Supremacy Devalues Us and How We Can Reclaim Our True Worth, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Caroline explains her background and why she decided to write her book. Tim and Caroline discuss the disparities she encountered teaching in Washington D.C. schools between predominately black schools and suburban white schools. They also discuss the definition of white supremacy. Lastly, they discuss how white supremacy harms everyone.
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Ex pastor Brian Recker joins the live stream to talk about why he left his job as a pastor and what life is like after evangelicalism.
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Amy Fritz, host of The Untangled Faith podcast, sits down with Tim to discuss her story. Amy gives some of her background. Tim and Amy discuss how her husband came to work for Dave Ramsey. They also discuss the red flags Amy and her husband began to see. Tim and Amy discuss the scandals that now plague Dave Ramsay’s ministry. Lastly, they discuss the resulting issues for Amy and her husband after her husband left Dave Ramsay’s company.
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Mark Driscoll is a smooth talker but unfortunately he uses half baked theology to push fully cooked dehumanization. Scholar Tripp Fuller joins me to go through Charlie Kirk’s interview demonstrating how bad theology leads to dangerous ideologies.
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In this episode Tim joins Dan Koch from You Have Permission Podcast to discuss the question: "Is Christianity Inherently Toxic?". Tim and Dan explain how the discussion was prompted by a Pete Enns video on the topic. Dan offers his thoughts on why Christianity can be compared to beer, and explains how reputable research has demonstrated a number of significant benefits to religion, when disconnected from spiritual abuse.
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Dr. Daniel Hummel, scholar, minister and author of the new book, The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Hummel gives his background and why he decided to write a book on Dispensationalism. Tim and Dr. Hummel discuss what Premillenial Dispensationalism is. They also discuss the history of the movement. Tim and Dr. Hummel discuss how influential Dispensationalism is in our current culture. Lastly, they discuss how conspiratorial thinking has woven together with modern day pop Dispensationalism.
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John Macarthur, Paul Washer, Matt Chandler, Voddie Baucham, Mark Driscoll before he became a MAGA Pentocostal salesman. These might be names you associate with the Reformed tradition. But what if there’s more to being Reformed than God predestining most people to Hell and some people to Heaven? Theologian W. Travis McMaken and Tripp Fuller join Tim to talk about why we shouldn’t throw Reformed theology out just yet.
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Dr. Andrew Whitehead, sociologist, scholar and author of the new book, American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Whitehead gives some background about himself and his research. He and Tim discuss the reason he wrote his new book about Christian Nationalism. Tim and Dr. Whitehead discuss different aspects of Christian Nationalism, like racism and the considerable amount of power white Evangelicals have, in the movement. They also discuss how a fringe movement can be so influential. Last, they address how to combat Christian Nationalism.
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Kaitlyn Schiess, theologian, cohost of Holy Post podcast and author of the new book, The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where Do We Go From Here, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Kaitlyn explains her background in Evangelism and how she eventually disentangled her faith. Tim and Kaitlyn discuss her book and why she decided to write it. They also discuss how the way we read the Bible creates the majority of our issues around politics . Lastly, Tim and Kaitlyn explore the path forward and how small changes can produce larger ones within Evangelism.
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TNE community member Alyssa cohosts today with Tim as they interview Andrew Seidel, attorney, activist and author of American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious Freedom. Andrew explains his background as an attorney and activist for Freedom From Religion Foundation. Tim, Alyssa and Andrew talk about how the Supreme Court was weaponized by conservative justices to support religious right causes. They discuss specific cases that have been used by the court system to advance Christian Nationalist causes. Lastly, they discuss a path forward to fight Christian Nationalism.
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Tim Whitaker brings on his friend Billie Hoard to respond to a YouTube video of Christian Apologists Frank Turek and Melissa Dougherty talking about the danger of the “trans” agenda. This audio was pulled from our live YouTube Response to if you want to see the video check it out below!
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Carlos Whittaker, speaker, musician social media content creator and author of the new book, How to Human: Three Ways to Share Life Beyond What Distracts, Divides and Disconnects Us, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Carlos explains his background in Evangelism and how he came on staff at churches like North Point. Tim and Carlos discuss when he began to see racism in the white Evangelical churches he attended. Tim and Carlos discuss how he became a CCM artist, what made him leave and how his first speaking gig caused him to loose a third of his followers. Lastly, Tim and Carlos discuss how to help be both an advocate of marginalized communities but also change the minds of those who aren’t.
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Lenny Duncan, former pastor, scholar and author of the new book, Dear Revolutionaries: A Field Guide for a World Beyond the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss their new book. Lenny describes their background in Lutheranism and how they left their pastoral position. Tim and Lenny discuss how white progressive denominations failed marginalized communities especially during the pandemic. They also discuss the background of Martin Luther and how it’s not possible to separate the secular from the religious. Tim and Lenny lastly discuss Christian fascism in America and what Christians should do to combat this ideology.
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Tim and Tripp Visited Springfield Missouri in July to scope out the location for Theology Beer Camp. While there, they did a live podcast and drank beer.
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Dr. Scot McKnight, professor, theologian and author of the new book Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Dr. McKnight explains his background in fundamental Evangelism. He also explains what caused him to deconstruct. Tim and Dr. McKnight discuss what prompted him to write about Revelation. They also discuss what surprised him in studying Revelation. Tim and Dr. McKnight discuss the problems with a literal reading of Revelation. Lastly, they discuss how Christian Nationalism aligns itself with the empire John criticizes instead of aligning with the Way of the Lamb.
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Dr. Mark Karris, therapist and author of the book The Diabolical Trinity: Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Karris explains his background and how he ended up in the church. Tim and Dr. Karris discuss his reasons for writing the book and his own deconstruction. They also discuss the psychology of hell and a sinful self. Tim and Dr. Karris discuss religious trauma and how it isn’t widely understood. They also discuss ways to combat religious trauma’s effect on the nervous system. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Karris discuss resources for those wanting to gain tools to deal with their own religious trauma.
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Ally Henny, minister, podcast host and author of the new book, I Won’t Shut Up: Finding Your Voice When the World Tries to Silence You, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Ally explains her background in black churches and her time in majority white Pentecostal churches. Tim and Ally discuss what the Episcopal denomination is. They also discuss what prompted Ally to write her book. Tim and Ally discuss the silencing of black women’s voices in white Evangelical spaces. Lastly, Ally gives a message to black women in majority white Evangelical spaces.
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Will Harrison, therapist and moderator for TNE’s private Facebook group, talks with Tim about ableism in the church. Will explains his background and disability and when he began to deconstruct. Will and Tim discuss how the Evangelical church addresses ableism and treats those with disabilities. They also define ableism and how it makes navigation of faith in Evangelism difficult. Lastly, Tim and Will discuss how TNE can better provide a safer space for those who have disabilities.
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In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to process their current thoughts on church....and maybe going back?
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Dr. Isaac Sharp, scholar on the history of Evangelicalism and author of the new book, The Other Evangelicals: A Story of Liberal, Black, Progressive, Feminist, and Gay Christians and The Movement That Pushed Them Out, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Sharp explains his background in Evangelicalism and why he wrote his new book. Tim and Dr. Sharp discuss how Evangelicals are defined. They also discuss the history of Evangelicalism often left out of white conservative Evangelical narratives. Lastly, they discuss the power struggle within Evangelicalism for control of the definition of what it means to be Christian.
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Tim posted a clip of Pastor Mike Warlond that went viral so Tim invited Pastor Mike on to talk. They talk about the Bible and Bibliolatry, the history of White Evangelicalism in America and how to stay humble and accountable running a mega church in Harlem NYC.
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Dr. Sean McDowell, professor, apologist and podcast host sits down with Tim to discuss timely issues of doctrine and the faith. Dr. McDowell explains some of his background and how he became an apologist. Tim and Dr. McDowell discuss the primary doctrine needed for salvation. They also discuss the idea of objective truth in Christianity. Tim and Dr. McDowell discuss the mystery of the gospel and the apologetic industry. Lastly, the discuss sexual ethics role in salvation.
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Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee, an organization committed to ensuring the religious freedom of ALL Americans shares her experience attending the far right Re-Awaken America tour. A tour that travels the country to wake patriots up to danger of the deep state and the plot to overthrow America's Christian heritage.
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Tamice Spencer-Helms, speaker, theologian and author of the book, Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness
Between Trayvon Martin and George Floyd, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Tamice
explains her background in the black church and how she ended up at a white church. Tim and
Tamice discuss how white Jesus represented the system of whiteness in the church. Tim and Tamice discuss
the definition of whiteness. Lastly, they discuss how white Christians can become effective allies to black Americans.
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Dr. Constantine Campbell, New Testament scholar, documentary host and author of the book, Jesus v. Evangelicals: A Biblical Critique of a Wayward Movement, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Campbell explains his background in Evangelicalism and how he decided to write a book about American Evangelism. Tim and Dr. Campbell discuss Christian Nationalism in Evangelicalism. They also discuss the causes for issues that have risen from celebrity pastors. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Campbell discuss the path forward for Evangelism to change.
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Have you seen the recent Hillsong documentary on FX The Secrets of Hillsong? Tim brings on Janice and Tiff who were both featured in the documentary to get their unfiltered thoughts about the documentary, what it did well, and where it missed the mark.
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Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Faith hosted over a thousand pastors in Nashville, Tennessee uniting them around "tyrannical" COVID restrictions and the belief that the Church is under attack in America. This event hosted dozens of speakers all reinforcing these beliefs. Tim Whitaker from the New Evangelicals attended the event to listen to what was said on stage and to talk to people. Here's the recap.
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Kristian A. Smith, online pastor, podcast host, social media content creator and author sits down with Tim to discuss his experience in the black church tradition. Kristian explains his background and what led him to deconstruct. Tim and Kristian discuss racism in both white and black churches. They also discuss decolonizing work that needs to be done in both white and black churches. Lastly, Tim and Kristian unpack privilege in both white and black churches.
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Joseph Yoo, pastor and author of the new book, When The Saints Come Flying In, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Joseph explains his background. Tim and Joseph discuss how Joseph transitioned from being an ordained Methodist pastor to pastoring an Episcopal church. Tim and Joseph discuss the idea for his book. Lastly, Tim and Joseph discuss the issue of Christian Nationalism and how to resist it in a non-dehumanizing way.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Jennifer Bird, PHD to discuss her research on the concept of marriage in the Bible. Dr. Bird explains how analyzing the genre and cultural context of the Bible challenges the validity of evangelical proof-texts for "biblical marriage" theology
Dr. Bird also discusses why the words "husband" and "wife" don't belong in our English translations of Genesis, and why the Biblical depiction of marriage is driven by ownership, rather than love.
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On this episode of the podcast Matt Matias owner of Memes4Jesus, one of the largest meme accounts on the internet comes on the podcast to talk about being a conservative christian but seeing the major rot in evangelical institutions. Matt and Tim talk about the world of memes, the recent meme wars and how Matt reconciles his traditional sexual ethic with his admission that the Church has caused great harm to the Queer community.
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Dr. Pete Enns, theologian, scholar, podcast host of The Bible for Normal People and Faith for Normal People, and author of his new book, Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way Into Finding a Bigger God, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Pete explains where the title of his book originated. Tim and Pete discuss different themes in the book like the various Biblical perspectives that contradict uniformity of theology, science and its intersection with theology, why understanding that the Bible isn't historical or scientific frees us to find new understanding of God and how quantum physics shows us the relational nature of all things and how God's energy subsists all things. Lastly, Tim and Pete discuss the afterlife.
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Josh Porter, musician, pastor and author of the new book Death to Deconstruction: Reclaiming Faithfulness as an Act of Rebellion, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Josh explains his background in evangelicalism and now it led him to the music he was involved with for many years. Tim and Josh discuss what led him to write his book. They also discuss both the controversial and provocative aspects of the book. Lastly, Tim and Josh discuss where he is in the Christian tradition
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Author and activist Shane Claiborne joins Tim on the podcast to talk about Shane's newest book Rethinking Life and about their recent trip to Nashville, TN to protest for gun legislation
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Heather Hamilton, social media content creator and author of the new book, Returning To Eden, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Heather explains her background. Tim and Heather discuss what prompted her to write the book. Tim and Heather discuss what authenticity means to her and how self discovery helps to reconcile the authentic self with conflict. Heather and Tim discuss how her time in evangelical spaces shaped her experiences. Lastly, Tim and Heather discuss Biblical allegory and how it can impact her readers.
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Dr. Thomas Jay Oord, scholar and author of the books, God Can't: How to Believe in God After Abuse, Tragedy and Other Evils, and Open and Relational Theology, sits down with Tim to discuss Open and Relational Theology. Dr. Oord explains his background in Evangelism. Tim and Dr. Oord discuss Open Theology. Tim and Dr. Oord discuss, the power of God, defining the love of God, and explaining God's relationship to evil. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Oord discuss God's desires.
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Dr. Bart Ehrman, scholar, professor, social media content creator, and author or the new book Armageddon: What the Bible Really Says About the End, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Ehrman explains his background in Christianity and his departure from it. Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss the reason for the new book's subject matter. Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss what type of Biblical literature Revelation is and what apocalyptic literature is. Dr. Ehrman explains the controversies in the book of Revelation and why they are important. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss how the way Revelation is read can be problematic theologically.
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On this special episode Tripp Fuller and Tim respond to a podcast episode between Jonny Root (Turning Point Faith) and Virgil Walker (G3 Ministries) discussing if you can be a democrat and be a christian.
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Jessica Willis Fisher, musician, former reality television star and author of the book Unspeakable: Surviving My Childhood and Finding My Voice, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Jessica explains her background on reality television and as an entertainer. Jessica and Tim discuss what was happening inside her family growing up. They also discuss how the abuse she experienced was allowed to continue because of the theology she was taught. Lastly, Tim and Jessica discuss how she is processing her experiences and what she believes now.
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Josh Sherif, pastor and author, and Sarah Tierney, author and mental health therapist, sit down with Tim to discuss their book, The Stranger at our Shore: How Immigrants and Refugees Strengthen the Church. Josh and Sarah both explain their backgrounds: Josh as an Egyptian immigrant and Sarah as the daughter of missionaries. Tim, Sarah and Josh discuss the premise behind their book. Tim and Josh discuss his story as an immigrant in the Evangelical church. Tim, Sarah and Josh discuss how politics has a bigger impact on the church than Jesus. Lastly, they discuss how to talk with conservative Evangelicals about scriptural treatment of immigrants.
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Billie and Paul Hoard, authors of Eucontamination: A Christian Study in the Logic of Disgust and Contamination sit down with Tim to discuss their journal article. Billie and Paul summarize their background and how that led them to research disgust and write their article. Tim, Billie and Paul discuss what disgust is and how it is emotionalized. Tim, Billie and Paul discuss how disgust became a part of purity culture. They also discuss how the church and far right media weaponize disgust against the LGBTQIA+ community. Lastly, they discuss how to deal with the disgust the church uses against the LGBTQIA+ community.
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Dr. Anthea Butler, professor and author of the book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Dr. Butler explains some of her background and how she became a historian. Tim and Dr. Butler discuss how her book came about. Tim and Dr. Butler discuss the dynamics of white Evangelicalism with far right groups. They also discuss how to resist the Christian Nationalism coming from white Evangelical spaces. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Butler discuss the Eagles.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Kate Boyd, author of the book An Untidy Faith: Journeying Back to the Joy of Following Jesus to discuss her experience disentangling her faith from cultural American evangelicalism. Kate shares her perspective on what it means to create emotionally healthy church communities outside of the Evangelical consumer-driven model, and how she has come to embrace an often complicated and messy faith along the journey of following Jesus. Tim and Kate discuss how they are navigating what it means to love your neighbor and not dehumanize, while living in an increasingly polarizing world.
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Authors of the Great Sex Rescue and mother daughter duo, Scheila Gregoir and Rebecca Lindenbach come on the show for an emergency episode to talk about the Gospel Coalition's recent piece titled Sex Won't Save You (But It Points to the One Who Will) By Josh Butler. This episode does contain sexually explicit language but is an important dialogue about the penis centered sexual ethic many in the Evangelical culture have.
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In this episode, Tim sits down with Bradley Onishi from Straight White American Jesus, talking about the Asbury Revival from an academic perspective, with scholar of history Leah Payne, and scholar of religion Matthew Taylor.
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Katherine Stewart, journalist and author of the book, Power Worshippers, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Nationalism and Good News Clubs in public schools. Katherine Stewart explains her background and why she began investigating Good News Clubs (part of Child Evangelism). Tim and Katherine talk about what she found in her investigation about the Good News Clubs getting permission to be in public schools and what happened when there was push back by certain schools. Tim and Katherine then discuss how parents were tricked into sending their kids to Good News Clubs and how this ties into the Christian Nationalist agenda. Lastly, what can people do to combat Christian Nationalism?
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In this episode, Tim sits down with renowned historical scholar John Dominic Crossan to discuss the historical Jesus, and how the ongoing revelations of historical critical research and science are essentially interconnected with the art of theology. Dom offers his perspective on how proximity to empire has influenced the trajectory of Christian doctrine, and how he understands the meaning of Jesus' life, ministry, and death. Dom also introduces his perspective on Jesus' resurrection, and why he believes his perspective is more faithful to the early Christian tradition. Dom frames his view on resurrection with the provocative statement: metaphor creates reality.
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Jess Herberger, a social media content creator, intersection of history and the Bible teacher and the author of her latest book, Life Surrendered, sits down with Tim to discuss her book, and online community: The Table. Jess explains her background and how she came to both study and teach the bible in the spaces where she is now. Tim and Jess discuss her online community and how she approaches the bible. Tim and Jess discuss how to deal with more conservative Evangelicals and the bible. Lastly, Tim and Jess discuss how those deconstructing can cultivate community.
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Diana Butler Bass and Tripp Fuller join Tim to talk about their upcoming class Empty Altars: American Saints in a Cynical Age aimed at exploring the season of Lent. Why does lent matter? What do you do with the Church calendar as an evangelical who was never exposed to it? How does death play a role in lent? Tim, Diana and Tripp dive headfirst into these and more
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Dr. Matthew Taylor, professor and author, sits down with Tim to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation and its ties to Christian Nationalism. Dr. Taylor explains his background in Evangelism and his education. Tim and Dr. Taylor explain what the New Apostolic Reformation is. Dr. Taylor and Tim discuss those prominent figures in Christian Nationalism and their intersection with NAR. Dr. Taylor and Tim discuss the theology of NAR and why it's created so much interest in Christian Nationalism. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Taylor break down the differences between Christian nation supporters and Christian Supremacy.
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In this episode, Tim interviews Sara Billups to discuss her book: Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find Their Way Home. Sar shares her story of leaving consumerist evangelical culture behind, to rediscover Jesus and faith based community.
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Cynthia Vacca Davis, professor, social media content creator and author of the book Intersexion, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Cynthia explains her background in Christian spaces. Tim and Cynthia discuss how she met the person who was the inspiration for the book. Tim and Cynthia explain her struggle at a Christian University as an LGBTQIA affirming professor. Lastly, Cynthia explains where she is now and how she's found the community she has.
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Brandi Miller, chief storyteller for Quest Church, op-ed writer for the Huffington Post, and podcast creator for "Reclaiming My Theology", sits down with Tim to discuss her journey. Brandi explains some of her background. Tim and Brandi discuss her conversion to Christianity and her deconstruction journey. Tim and Brandi discuss what she's doing now. Lastly, Tim and Brandi examine how conservative media influenced Conservative Evangelicals and how white supremacy underlies that journey.
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Bekah McNeel, journalist and author of the book Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down, sits down with Tim to discuss parenting in deconstruction. Bekah gives some of her background in Evangelism. Tim and Bekah discuss how to talk to children about death. They also discuss how to talk to kids about God. Bekah and Tim discuss wise parenting versus power or control parenting. Lastly, they discuss how to talk to your children about sex.
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What the hell happened in Brazil on Sunday January 8th 2023 and why did it look like the Jan 6th Insurrection in 2021? Tim sits down with Joao Chaves who is a professor of Theology and author of The Global Mission of the Jim Crow South: Southern Baptist Missions and the Shaping of Latin American Evangelicalism to answer that question and more.
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Keith Giles, former pastor and author of his new book, Sola Mysterium, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Keith explains his background and how he left the SBC. Tim and Keith discuss how he became a writer and his path towards the view of Universal Reconciliation. Keith and Tim discuss the verses where Jesus talks about what Evangelism believes is “hell” . Keith and Tim next debate Universal Reconciliation and Annihilation. Lastly, Tim and Keith discuss the cultural aspects of why Universal Reconciliation is difficult to fathom in American cultural understanding of justice.
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On this episode Tim shares his interview with Leah Robinson and Diana Butler Bass that took place during Theology Beer Camp in October.
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Dr. Brad Onishi, associate professor, scholar, co-host of the Straight White American Jesus podcast and author of the new book Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism- and What Comes Next, sits down with Tim to discuss his book.
Brad explains his background and how he came to write the book. Tim and Brad discuss what prompted him to write his new book. Tim and Brad discuss the evolution of Christian Nationalism. Lastly, Tim and Brad discuss where to go from the current climate of Christian Nationalism to addressing Evangelicals in a non-dehumanizing way.
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In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss some of the major events TNE covered in 2022, celebrate the ways the community continues to hold space for those navigating their own faith journeys, and share how the year is shaping TNE's focus for 2023.
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On this episode Tim sits down with Dan Catchpole for a full debrief of Tim’s experience of America Fest which is a massive Christian Nationalist event with over 10,000 people including prominent political and faith leaders
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Dr. Angela Parker, seminary professor, Womanist theologian and author, sits down with Tim to discuss a Womanist Theological interpretation of the Christmas Story. Dr. Parker explains her background. Tim and Dr. Parker talk about the theology of Christmas and the four women mentioned in Jesus' genealogy. Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the difference between the exalted Christ in white theology and the humanity of Christ in Womanist Theology. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Parker discuss hope in the Christmas Story from a Womanist perspective.
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Katelyn Beaty, journalist, editor and author of the book Celebrities For Jesus: How Personas, Platforms and Profits are Hurting the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Katelyn explains her background in Evangelicalism. Tim and Katelyn discuss her book and how celebrity pastors have become such a part of Evangelical culture. They discuss how celebrity pastors are created and how the book publishing industry is complicit. Lastly, they discuss prevention of the scandals we have seen in recent years.
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A few months ago, Tim asked journalist Dan Catchpole to do a deep dive on Doug Wilson for an upcoming podcast episode and to educate the TNE community on who Doug is and why we believe his christianity should be resisted.
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On this special episode, Tim brought on Jay and Johnna from the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast to talk about Matt Chandler's return to ministry and why they are concerned about the lack of transparency from the Village Church.
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Dr. Jonathan Foster, podcast host, theologian and author of the new book, Consent Theology, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Jonathan explains his background and what led him to change his beliefs. Tim and Jonathan discuss Mimetic Theory and what led him to merge it with Open and Relational Theology. They discuss how Jonathan sees God now. Lastly, they discuss how to help the audience approach this different way of viewing God.
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In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss Donald Trump's recent engagement with Nick Fuentes, and why the failure of Evangelical thought leaders to condemn the situation matters. Tim and Noah also discuss a trending clip of pastor Tim Ross sharing his opinion on "deconstructionists".
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Coach Yeamah Logan, social media content creator, sexuality coach and author of the book, Heal Fear and Shame About Your Sexual Orientation, sits down with Tim to discuss her profession and her faith. Coach Yeamah explains her background and what led her to pursue a career in coaching sexuality or sexual orientation. Tim and Coach Yeamah discuss her faith and the impact it had on her eventual coming out. They also discuss the common reasons why people seek out her services. Lastly, Tim and Yeamah discuss the Club Q shooting and how those becoming affirming can advocate for the queer community.
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Patrick Miller, pastor, social media content creator and author of the book Truth Over Tribe: Pledging Allegiance to the Lamb not the Donkey or the Elephant, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Patrick explains his background and how he got the idea for the book. Tim and Patrick discuss understanding the difference between what is required by faith in Jesus and the idea of Christian Nationalism. Tim and Patrick discuss how populism works within politics. They also discuss what tribalism means and why our brains are wired to be tribal. Lastly, Tim and Patrick discuss how to approach Christian Nationalists and how we should approach politics as Jesus followers.
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J.S. Park, former pastor, hospital chaplain, social media content creator and author, sits down with Tim to discuss his work as a hospital chaplain. Joon explains his background and how he became a hospital chaplain. Tim and Joon discuss how difficult it was to be a hospital chaplain in Florida during Covid. Tim and Joon discuss how being both with interfaith chaplains impacted him during this time. They also discuss the harmful things pastors say to those in traumatic situations. Lastly, Tim and Joon discuss how Western society doesn't handle death well.
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Documentary Filmmaker Bill Corben joins Tim on the show to talk about his new film, God Forbid which documents the Falwell's sex scandal and their insatiable quest for power all in the name of God and family values.
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Rabbi Michael Harvey, social media content creator and author of the book Let's Talk: A Rabbi Speaks to Christians, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Rabbi Mike explains his background and why he wrote the book. Tim and Rabbi Mike discuss Judaism as an ethno-religion. Tim and Rabbi Mike discuss the different sects in Judaism. Tim and Rabbi Mike break down Anti-Jewish ideas in the NT and discuss the rise in Anti-Semiticism in America. Lastly, Rabbi Mike gives some advice to Christians about understanding Judaism.
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Tim, Riley, and Noah discuss some recent trending tweets from Christian Nationalists on Twitter.
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Dr. Angela Denker, journalist, minister and author of the book Red State Christians: A Journey Through Christian Nationalism and the Wreckage It Leaves Behind, sits down with Tim to discuss the research from her updated book. Angela explains her background and how she went from a Sports Reporter, to a Lutheran minister, to author. Tim and Angela discuss her book and how she defines Christian Nationalism. Tim and Angela discuss what she means by the wreckage that Christian Nationalism left behind. Lastly, Tim and Angela discuss how to address Christian Nationalism.
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In this episode Tim interviews Stephen Backhouse from Tent Theology. Stephen explains how Kierkegaard encourages us to look for Christ in the marginalized people of society, and why Christian Nationalism trades allegiance to Jesus for allegiance to violence and empire. Stephen also discusses the Anabaptist tradition and Christian Anarchy.
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Tim and Noah sit down with Mason Mennenga from "A People's Theology" to discuss their thoughts on Tripp Fuller's Theology Beer Camp.
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Tim and Noah recap the first day of Theology Beer Camp and how the experience is affecting them.
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It's the night before beer-camp. Noah and Tim share their first thoughts about Tripp Fuller's Theology Beer Camp God-Pod Edition, before their flight to NC.
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Julie Ingersoll, professor and author of the book, Building God's Kingdom: Inside the World Of Christian Reconstructionism, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Reconstructionism. Julie shares some of her background and how she came to study and write about Christian Reconstructionism. Tim and Julie discuss what Christian Reconstructionism is. Tim and Julie discuss the founder of Christian Reconstruction, R.J. Rushdoony. They also discuss how Christian Reconstructionism has gone mainstream with people who are CR adjacent like Betsy DeVos, Charlie Kirk, David Barton, Voddie Bauchem and Doug Wilson. Lasty, Tim and Julie discuss if Christian Reconstructionism can be resisted.
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Pastor David Griffin used a TNE Tik Tok video in a sermon to warn of the problems of deconstruction. So Tim invited David on the show to have a good faith dialogue to talk about our differences.
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Derek Webb, singer-songwriter and member of Caedmon's Call, sits down with Tim to discuss his journey from Caedmon's Call to a solo career as a deconstructed Christian. Derek explains a little bit about his background and how he became a part of Caedmon's Call. Tim and Derek discuss how Derek became hardcore Calvinist during his tenure at Caedmon's Call. Tim and Derek discuss how both his departure from Caedmon's Call and his deconstruction began. Lastly, Tim and Derek discuss his current beliefs.
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Tim and Noah sit down to discuss how they view theology as an art form, and what it looks like to put their beliefs in perspective of the larger christian tradition. They also analyze the results of the 2022 "State of Theology" study from Ligonier Ministries and LifeWay Research and discuss how the study reflects current trends in evangelical culture.
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Denzel Burnside III, minister, activist, and social media content creator, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Environmentalism and how industries can impact not just the environment but the communities they operate in. Denzel explains his background growing up in Miami, Florida and how he ended up in North Carolina. Tim and Denzel discuss Denzel's time working with Democratic campaigns and why he left that to pursue activism. Tim and Denzel discuss his work with the Dogwood Alliance and what they do. Lastly, Tim and Denzel discuss how his faith impacts the work that he does now.
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Pete Enns, social media content creator, podcast host and professor, sits down with Tim to discuss theology and processing current Evangelical messaging. Tim and Pete discuss how to view the Bible post deconstruction. Pete explains his background. Tim and Pete discuss Evangelical culture and theology and how it developed intellectually. Lastly, Tim and Pete discuss the intellectual and faith development of the Biblical writers.
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In this episode Tim and Noah reflect on the question: "how do we effectively critique harmful ideologies in a non-dehumanizing manner, and what does it look like to use that critique as an opportunity for invitation into greater human flourishing?"
Tim shares how these questions affect the type of content that The New Evangelicals continues to produce, and what it looks like to uphold TNE's values as the community continues to stand up against harmful theology and oppression.
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Dan Koch, musician and podcast content creator, sits down with Tim to talk about his latest venture getting his doctorate in Psychology with an emphasis on spiritual abuse. Dan explains his background and how he decided to study psychology. Dan and Tim discuss his series on The Dangers of Progressive Christianity to show how conversations about this topic with right of center guests can be persuasive with those not on the radicalized right. Tim and Dan also discuss what fundamentalism is and how it affects discussions about politics and religion. Lastly, Tim and Dan discuss how social media platforms can have a positive effect on both the right, left, and conservative and progressive Christianity.
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Tim sits down with Adam Clark and Tripp Fuller to discuss a recent post from the Center for Biblical Unity claiming that black liberation theology is a false gospel. Adam Clark was mentored by James Cone, the father of black liberation theology, and is an expert on the subject; so Tim, Adam, and Tripp discuss wether or not the post is accurate.
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Tim Whitaker explains recent changes and updates in the latest podcast. Tim thanks listeners and supporters of TNE. There are some new announcements. Tim explains what's going to be changing about the podcast going forward. Lastly, Tim thanks donors for their generosity and their outpouring for support for the social media platforms, the podcast and Tim to be able to do TNE full time.
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Tim and Noah discuss President Biden's recent speech at Independence Hall, Doug Mastriano, and Bobbie Houston's new fashion line.
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Recently Matt Chandler stepped down from leadership at the village church for inappropriately DM'ing a woman through his instagram account. But this story is strange and has a lot of red flags so Tim brought on Johnna and Jay from the Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast to get their perspective on the situation.
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Damon Garcia, minister, social media content creator, artist and author of the new book The God Who Riots:Taking Back the Radical Jesus, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Damon explains his background in Evangelical culture and what led him to ultimately leave Evangelicalism. Tim and Damon discuss both the theological and political reasons for his deconstruction. Tim and Damon discuss his reasons for writing the book and what the terms abolitionist and radical mean to him. Lastly, Tim and Damon discuss the best way forward for the church, specifically those who are deconstructing.
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In this episode Tim is joined by Riley Martinez to respond to a video of Samuel Deuth, pastor of Awaken Church calling out The New Evangelicals.
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Aaron Gillespie, songwriter, producer and drummer for Underoath sits down with Tim to talk about music and deconstruction. Aaron explains his background. Aaron and Tim discuss his current projects and his writing process. Aaron explains how he deconstructed and how it led him to being more authentic in his music. Tim and Aaron discuss how Underoath left the Evangelical music space to become more transparent about who they were as individuals. Lastly, Tim and Aaron talk all things drums.
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Tim is joined by Matthew Body, Riley Martinez and Dan Catchpole to talk about Charlie Kirk’s meteoric rise as a leader in Christian Nationalism and what his recent pastor’s summit means for white evangelicalism.
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Rohadi Nagassar, speaker, podcast host and author of the book When We Belong: Reclaiming Christianity on the Margins sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Rohadi explains his background and what led him to write his new book. Tim and Rohadi discuss the idea of discipleship the church has neglected. They expound upon the idea of community and how that looks in the twenty-first century. Lastly they explore the impact of Christian Nationalism on the church and in both the U.S. and Canada.
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Dr. Dan McClellan, social media content creator, translator of LDS material and author of his new book Deity and Divine Agency in the Hebrew Bible, sits down with Tim to discuss issues related to how modern Christianity interprets ancient Hebrew texts. Dan explains his background and how he studies Cognitive Linguistics and Cognitive Religion. Tim and Dan discuss the different interpretations of God through the ages. Tim and Dan discuss if religion as modernity interprets it existed among the writers of the Hebrew Bible. Lastly, Tim and Dan discuss how language in both ancient texts and modern day usage differ especially in dealing with translation.
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Samuel Perry, University of Oklahoma professor, author and social media content creator sits down with Tim to discuss his data concerning Christian Nationalism. Samuel Perry explains his new data concerning the breakdown of Christian Nationalism. Tim and Samuel discuss the definitions of those terms, Ambassador, Accommodator, Rejector and Resister. Tim and Samuel also discuss if those on the Ambassador side of Christian Nationalism are going further to the Right or not. Lastly, Tim and Samuel discuss some of the books which explore the polarization of Americans.
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Dr. David Morris, publisher, psychologist and author of the book Lost Faith and Wandering Souls: A Psychology of Disillusionment, Mourning and the Return of Hope, sits down with Tim to discuss the psychological reasons for and the impact of deconstruction. David explains his background and what led him to become a publisher who focuses on the deconstruction phenomenon. Tim and David discuss what ingredients psychologically lead people to deconstruct. Tim and David discuss the lack of community and how that driving need often leads to deconstruction. Lastly, Tim and David discuss what hope means in the deconstruction process.
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In this episode Tim and Riley finish up their response to Allie Stuckey's podcast episode #360 where she brought on "reporter" Julie Kelly to discuss the Jan 6th insurrection and who was really at fault.
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Jared Stacy, former pastor and current researcher of conspiracy theories and how they intersect with Evangelicalism, sits down with Tim to discuss his research. Jared explains his background in Southern Evangelical spaces and his eventual move from pastoral work to getting a PhD in conspiracy theories. Tim and Jared discuss the three ways a conspiracy theory is defined. They also discuss how there is overlap between Qnon conspiracy theories and Evangelical theology. Lastly, Tim and Jared discuss how to approach people who believe in conspiracy theories.
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In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss the concept of American patriotism, and the pursuit of "liberty and justice for all".
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Dan Minor, pastor of Harvest Church in Sarasota, FL, sits down with Tim to discuss being an LGBTQIA affirming, community-loving Evangelical church amongst Theocon churches. Pastor Dan explains his background in the Pentecostal church. Tim and Pastor Dan discus Harvest Church's LGBTQIA affirming status and the fall out from that decision. Lastly, Tim and Pastor Dan discuss the role of politics in the church and how the Christian influence should be loving your neighbor.
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Trey Pearson, former frontman for the Christian rock band Everyday Sunday, solo artist, and LGBTQIA activist, sits down with Tim to discuss Trey's coming out story. Trey explains his background in the conservative Evangelical church and how he became involved with the band Everyday Sunday. Tim and Trey discuss Trey's coming out story and what he lost as a result of his admission he was gay. Trey discusses his LGBTQIA activism. Lastly, Tim and Trey discuss music, Trey's new album, Somebody You Know, and Trey's recording process.
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Tim and Noah share a conversation about Tim's Ex......worship leader, accountability for harm in religious spaces, and how the evangelical church continues to prop up christian nationalism.
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On this episode Tim sits down with the leader of American's United, Rachel Laser, to discuss two recent landmark Supreme Court rulings that have major implications that affect us now and in the future.
Rachel and her team represented Bremerton School District in the recent SCOTUS case Kennedy Vs Bremerton School District. In this case a high school football coach was praying with students at the 50 yard line after games and the school said he couldn't do that while coaching. He refused to comply, was placed on paid leave and then chose not to renew his contract. He sued in lower courts and lost. A powerful shadow network of conservative evangelicals funded the case up to the SCOTUS where they ruled in the coach's favor.
Rachel unpacks why this ruling is unprecedented and also unpacks the court's decision to overturn Roe V Wade.
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Sheila and Keith Gregoire, authors, social media content creators and podcast hosts sit down with Tim to discuss their new books The Good Guys Guide to Great Sex and the updated version of The Good Girls Guide to Great Sex. Keith Gregoire explains some background of his experience in the Evangelical church and how he came to write a book with his wife Sheila. Tim, Keith and Sheila discuss their research into how both men and women's theological/practical views of marriage can impact their marriage satisfaction. They also discuss how gender stereotypes set forth in churches and in Christian marriage books have hurt marriages. Lastly, they discuss the difference between intimacy and sex and how women's pleasure is often neglected because of the ignorance about this difference.
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On this episode of the podcast Tim and Riley respond to an Allie Stuckey podcast discussing how the Jan 6th insurrection was overblown, how the police incited the majority of the violence and how the suspects arrested a political prisoners.
CORRECTION: When Allie says that there were grandmothers in the capitol with an American flag on Jan 6th we asked for proof. We have a found a picture of an older woman holding an American flag in the capitol. We could not confirm if she was a grandmother.
BLM protest Data - https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/
Couy Griffin - https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/politics/couy-griffin-trial-january-6/index.html
Capitol Police theory - https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542
Ray Epps - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html
Ryan Samsel - https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-riot-man-charged-officer-concussion-trnd/index.html
FBI Informants theory - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/capitol-riot-fbi-informant.html
Washington Post database - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
Lafayette Square report - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325
Jan 6th Jail info - https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/01/05/the-january-sixers-have-their-own-unit-at-the-dc-jail-heres-what-life-is-like-inside/
Elizabeth Warren’s stamens on Solitary confinement -https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/19/capitol-riot-defendants-warren-483125
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Flamy Grant joins Tim on the show to explain what it means to be a drag queen and if drag shows are attempting to "groom" children
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Malynda Hale, musician, actress, entrepreneur, host of social media content and social justice activist, sits down with Tim to discuss being a black woman in America. Malynda explains her background and how she came to attend a white Evangelical college in California. Tim and Malynda discuss being a black woman in a white Evangelical college. Tim and Malynda discuss music and how that led her to her social justice activism. Lastly, Tim and Malynda discuss black women and their plight within the medical community, navigating child care and the negative stereotyping that white Evangelicals paint of black women in America and maternity.
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Recapping the first Jan 6th committee hearing and how the committee failed to address one of the primary fuel sources of the insurrection and the Trump fanaticism that so many of us saw through his presidency.
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In this bonus episode, Tim and Noah discuss Texas' new bill banning children from drag shows, how christian nationalism relies on religious privilege and rejects religious freedom for all, the recent SBC abuse scandals, and Turning Point USA's new school curriculum. They also address the particular dangers of political fundamentalism when it is explicitly linked to religious identity and hero worship.
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On this episode of the podcast Tim has a discussion with Tripp Fuller unpacking what Process Theology is. This is a two part conversation with the first half on The New Evangelical’s podcast and the second half on Tripp’s podcast, Home-brewed Christianity.
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On this episode of the podcast Preston Sprinkle joins Tim to talk about the different ways Christianity has understood Hell and offers a view of Hell outside of the typical view of eternal conscious torment. Preston is an author and scholar who has done immense research on the topic so this is a highly informative episode.
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If you have friends or family who are willing to listen to other perspectives when it comes to constitutional law and how we protect religious freedom for ALL then this is the podcast for you.
Andrew Seidel is a constitutional lawyer who actively works with groups defending the first amendment. Andrew unpacks how the first amendment works, why it's so important and how Christian Nationalism is one of the greatest threats undermining what it's designed to do. Tim asks Andrew if America is a Christian nation and why doesn't the phrase 'separation of church and state' doesn't exist in the constitution and why it's not a problem
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Dr. Angela Parker, professor, social media content creator and author of the book, If God Still Breathes Why Can't I? Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority, sits down with Tim to discuss Womanist theology in White Evangelical dominant spaces. Dr. Angela Parker discusses her background as a professor of NT studies at Mercer University. Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the differences between White Theo Bros and Black Women Theologians especially in terms of theology and biblical cultural bias. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the future of the Evangelical church in light of Christian Nationalism having such a foothold in White Evangelical churches.
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Brandan Roberts, social media content creator and author of the new book Fill to Be Empty, sits down with Tim to discuss his life and definition of inclusive Christianity. Brandan explains his background growing up in a fundamentalist Baptist church. Tim and Brandan discuss the mass exodus of Christians from the AEC. Tim and Brandan discuss what orthodoxy means and where it came from. Tim and Brandan discuss the complexity of the Bible and how the AEC has elevated it as equal to God. Lastly, Tim and Brandan discuss where the AEC is likely headed.
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April Ajoy, social media content creator, podcast presenter and film project creator for Evangelicalish, sits down with Tim to discuss her own deconstruction story and how she began her parody skits on Tik Tok. April explains her background and what led her to deconstruct her faith. She and Tim discuss how the political climate of 2016 led them both to question the church's promotion of Trumpism. They both also discuss how social media has allowed them to find connection with other people who were also deconstructing. Lastly, April explains what's coming in the future for Evangelicalish.
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Tim and Noah hop on for a bonus episode to talk about the systematic issues the white evangelical church is facing and if the institutions are worth saving. They talk about Allie Stuckey's response to John MacArthur, the upcoming THEOS U conference with Matt Chandler and Mark Driscoll, and why white evangelicals refuse to hold their own accountable.
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Lisa Aaron Harper, author of the new book Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and The World, sits down with Tim to discuss her book and the future of Evangelicalism. Lisa explains how the investigation of her genealogy was the catalyst for her new book. Tim and Lisa discuss the difference between the individualism within white culture that removes the person from their ancestors' national, cultural and linguistic identity and other ethnic cultures who see their connection to their ancestors' national, cultural and linguistic identity. Tim and Lisa discuss the past and present of Evangelicalism in America. Lastly, Tim and Lisa discuss the current conservative SCOTUS court and how the implications for black and brown people could erase decades of advances in racial equality.
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Dr. Kristin Du Mez, historian and author of the book Jesus and John Wayne, sits down with Tim to discuss the book and current White Conservative Evangelicalism. Kristin explains her background and her work as a historian. Kristin and Tim discuss the difference between her work as a historian and those of theologians in defining what an Evangelical is. Tim and Kristin discuss her book and the implications of it. Lastly, Kristin explains what she means by Calvinism and the Reformed tradition.
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Tim Whitaker and Noah Althoff from TNE sit down to discuss topics happening in the Christian community. Noah and Tim discuss the role of certainty in Christian theological traditions and how that impacts the average Christian within those faith communities. Tim and Noah discuss the latest Red Pen critique that used a clip from Tim about a Biblical sexual ethic and the lack of humility this particular content creator showed by failing to admit the glaring differences between sexual ethics accepted in Biblical eras compared to now. Lastly, Tim and Noah discuss the latest story by Julie Roys about a faculty member of John MacArthur's Master's College who advocates for abused women to suffer abuse like a missionary suffers persecution.
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Dante Stewart, theologian, pastor, and author of the new book Shoutin' in the Fire: An American Epistle, sits down with Tim to discuss his book and his time in white Evangelical churches. Dante and Tim discuss the reason why Dante wrote his new book. Dante talks about the relationships that led him back to the black church and the black theologist and literalist tradition. Dante and Tim discuss what happened that caused Dante to leave the white Evangelical church he was at. Tim and Dante talk about the assimilation process through ideology that white Evangelical churches employ. Lastly, Dante explains that change is reorienting oneself toward bettering humanity and not just final solutions to complex problems like race.
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Dr. Adam Clark, Xavier University professor, former co-chair of Black Theology Group at the American Academy of Religion, author and podcast creator, sits down with Tim to discuss James Cone and black liberation theology. Dr. Clark gives his education and personal background and how he came to study theology under James Cone. Tim and Dr. Clark discuss what liberation theology is and its definition of freedom. Tim and Dr. Clark also discuss James Cone and Martin Luther King Jr. and what their contributions were to the formation of the black liberation movement. Tim and Dr. Clark discuss the difference in what the Biblical idea of redemptive violence is and how white Evangelism discredits it. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Clark discuss what white allies can do to bring about the change that needs to happen in order for justice and equity for POC to exist.
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Thomas Millay, professor, pastor and author of the new book Kierkegaard and the New Nationalism, sits down with Tim to discuss how Kierkegaard's view of Nationalism intersects with how Nationalism affects us currently. Thomas explains his background and what prompted his new book. Tim and Thomas discuss the definition of Nationalism and the understanding of how that defines Christian Nationalism. Thomas explains how Soren Kierkegaard lived out the practical aspects of Christianity in light of how Nationalism impacted those in society and around the world. Tim and Thomas look at Kierkegaard, John Locke and James Cone in their understanding of nationalism and spirituality. Lastly, Tim and Thomas discuss forethought in how individuals live their lives understanding the impact of their choices on others.
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Mako Nagasawa, advocate for restorative justice and intentional Christian community living, sits down with Tim and talks about what restorative justice looks like from the gospel examples. Mako explains his background and how he eventually got into ministry. Mako and Tim discuss how he began to investigate restorative justice and healing atonement theory. Mako and Tim discuss how intentional Christian community seeks to create multigenerational affordable housing in Boston. Lastly, Tim and Mako discuss how Christians can become a part of this movement.
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This is a recording taken from our theology 101 zoom group that meets on the first Monday of the month.
In this session Jason Lowe breaks down where we get our modern view inerrancy from and how it might not be as "historical" as you thought.
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Justin Oberste, licensed sex therapist, sits down with Tim to discuss his particular field but also how therapy in general can aid the deconstructionist community. Justin gives some of his background in Evangelical spaces. Tim and Justin discuss the evolution of Justin’s coming out. Tim and Justin discuss the benefits and drawbacks of therapy in the deconstruction community. Lastly, Justin explains the difference between a licensed therapist, a coach and a counselor.
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Brian Murphy and Fr. Shay Kearns, from the social media account Queer Theology, sit down with Tim for the third installment about the work of Queer Theology. Brian and Shay discuss how Queer Theology came to be and what their message is. Tim, Brian and Shay discuss what the initial response was when they launched the website and how many of those who engage are from Evangelical backgrounds. Brian and Shay discuss how body autonomy was co-opted by the Evangelical church and the damage it did. Tim, Brian and Shay discuss whether Evangelical can be redeemed. Lastly, Tim ask about how both queer and straight folks can engage Queer Theology and the LGBTQIA community in a more loving way.
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Fr. Shay Kearns, co-creator of Queer Theology, podcast host and ordained priest, sits down with Tim to discuss his story as a transgender man in Christian spaces. Shay explains his background in the Evangelical church and in Evangelical education. Shay and Tim discuss his exploration of both sexuality and gender as a leader in the American Baptist tradition and in his education at Union College's seminary. Shay explains how he got involved with the Old Catholic church and the differences between it and Roman Catholicism. Lastly, Tim and Shay discuss why the Evangelical church struggles with challenges to its theology.
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Brian G. Murphy, from Queer Theology, sits down with Tim on the first of three episodes about what it means to be a queer Christian. Brian explains how he grew up. Tim and Brian discuss how Brian discovered he was queer and what that meant going into his college years. Brian explains how coming out to his parents changed both their understanding of God. Tim and Brian discuss how Queer Theology came about. Lastly, Brian explains what polyamory or ethical non-monogamy is.
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Dr. Robyn Espinoza, professor, author and social media content creator of I, Robyn, sits down with Tim to discuss their upcoming book Body Becoming: Path to Liberation. Dr. Robyn discusses their background as a trans, nonbinary person raised in Evangelicalism. Dr. Robyn and Tim discuss how their degree led to their social media account, I, Robyn and what does activist theology look like? Tim and Dr. Robyn discuss how the current deconstructionist movement and ethical theology intersect. Dr. Robyn explains what conversations can look like when harm reduction is the goal versus right thinking. Lastly, Dr. Robyn explains what they think heaven on earth through ethical theology can create in society.
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Dr. Nathan Cartegena, professor, author and speaker, sits down with Tim to discuss the issues of racialization within the Evangelical church and how to relearn a new path toward Biblical understanding of restorative justice. Dr. Nathan Cartagena gives some of his background and how he came to discuss specific intersectionality of the Evangelical church and race. Tim and Dr. Cartagena discuss generational patterns of racism and what wounds are caused to both white and POC communities through erroneous teachings by the Evangelical church. Next, Tim and Dr. Cartagena talk about how the ideas of walking with the Spirit and Biblical understanding of restorative justice connect. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Cartagena look at the direction forward for the white Evangelical church, and those deconstructing from it, by detaching the church from Empire.
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Jessica Malaty Rivera, Infectious Disease Epidemiologist and Science Communication Lead at the Covid Tracking Project, sits down with Tim to discuss information about pandemic prevention research, Covid-19 and the vaccine. Jessica explains her background and how she ended up studying infectious diseases at Georgetown University. Tim and Jessica discuss what Covid-19 is and how masks and social distance can prevent transmission of the disease. Tim and Jessica discuss misinformation on the virus itself and also the reporting of deaths due to Covid-19. Jessica explains how racism in medicine and lack of healthcare preparedness resulted in our current situation. Lastly, Tim and Jessica discuss the vaccine, its efficacy and how transmissible the new variant Omicron is.
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Dr. David Gushee, professor and author, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book Introducing Christian Ethics. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss his current project and how it came about. Dr. Gushee explains Christian Humanism in his newly released book Introducing Christian Ethics and how it's relevant to his new book. Tim and Dr. Gushee talk about the difference between having knowledge about certain challenging questions of life and how to solve them. Lastly, Dr. Gushee explains what Sacred Nonviolent and Sacred Violence are in church history and how that is important in understanding current events
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Dr. George Yancey, sociologist and author of the book, One Faith No Longer: The Transformation of Christianity in Red and Blue America, sits down with Tim to discuss Progressive Christianity and the divide between them and Conservative Christianity in terms of politics. Dr. Yancey and Tim discuss his book and what were some of the implications of it. Dr. Yancey explains his background in academia and his switch to studying religion. Tim and Dr. Yancey discuss how he defines Progressive Christianity. They also examine the political landscape since his book was written based on data from 2012. Tim and Dr. Yancey look at the blindspot of Progressive Christians and how to improve relations between them and Conservative Christians. Dr. Yancy discusses his upcoming book.
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January 6th 2021 was a day America and the world will never forget. Tim brought on Samuel Perry, the author of Taking America Back for God which looks at polling and other data to see how Christian Nationalism behaves, how it's seen in the larger public and where it's heading.
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Russell Moore, author, theologian, former pastor, former Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission President for the SBC, and podcast host for Christianity Today, sits down with Tim to discuss the current situation within the AEC. Russell gives some of his background and his connection with disillusionment of the church; a phrase he uses instead of deconstruction to describe what he sees as antichrist in the modern AEC. Tim and Russell discuss what his view of the deconstruction movement is and how broad the term is. They both discuss what both the individual and the church need to do in order to propel the church forward in a Christ focused manner. Lastly, Tim gives Russell a chance to point out what is wrong with TIm's critique of the AEC and what he sees as necessary for the church to meet the requirements set down by Jesus to be a healthy church.
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We are taking the week off! Here's an end of year wrap up message from Tim. Thank you to ALL of our listeners for making this podcast what it is!
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Tripp Fuller, author, theologian and podcast host sits down with a follow-up episode with Tim to discuss the Virgin Birth. Tripp explains the difference between Protestant and Catholic interpretations of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. Tim and Tripp discuss the historical evidence of the Christmas story accounts in Matthew and Luke and if the story was meant to be taken literally. Lastly, Tim and Tripp discuss what the idea of being fully God and fully human means apart from the traditional Evangelical theology and how the fully faithfulness of Jesus expresses a deeper understanding of this concept. (insert links)
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Aaron Simmons, professor of philosophy, Youtube content creator and friend of Tripp Fuller sits down with Tim to discuss how Kierkegaard’s writings dissect the issues within Christianity we are faced with today. Aaron gives his background as a professor of philosophy at Furman, his personal life and the content he and Trip Fuller are creating together. Aaron breaks down the body of work by Kierkegaard and his aim as a Danish thinker. Tim and Aaron discuss what Kierkegaard meant by his pursuit of the self (or existentialism) and how the knowledge of the self was crucial to understand the pursuit of faith. Tim asks Aaron how Kierkegaard would view the intersection of Christian nationalism and Christianity within the AEC. Aaron discusses how we either elevate those in power or are wrecked by those power systems in the pursuit of Jesus.
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Sharon "Rocky" Roggio, an independent filmmaker, production designer and now director for her new project 1946 The Movie, sits down with Tim about the project and where it originated. Rocky, explains her background as a pastor's daughter in a non-denominational Evangelical church that was not LGBT+ affirming and how being gay in that environment was very harmful for her. Working in the film industry, Rocky's experience and her own sexual identity eventually coincided in the project 1946 The Movie. Tim and Rocky discuss how she immersed herself in research after going to one after another of seemingly affirming churches, but then discovering they were not in fact affirming of LGBT+ members at all. Rocky, explains how the project came to her, and how the writers of the book the project is based on did meticulous research on how the term "homosexual" came to be in the English translations of the Bible. Tim and Rocky then discuss how long it took to film and edit the movie for release and when the film is slated to be finished.
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Dr. Kia Moore, pastor, community advocate and the first female delegate to the Tennessee Baptist Convention sits down with Tim to discuss racism in public health, black baptist churches, and women in Southern Baptist spaces. Dr. Moore gives her background and what precipitated her speaking with White House officials about how she organized a vaccine drive in black churches in her community. Dr. Moore is a pastor at The Church at The Well in Memphis Tennessee and works as an outreach to her community. She and Tim discuss how racism in medicine created distrust among the black community due to research like the Tuskegee Experiment. Dr. Moore also explains how she combatted that mistrust by using one of the researchers who was a Black woman to educate her community concerning the need for the vaccine. Tim and Dr. Moore explore how Whiteness in medical spaces continues to use myths about people of color that can be dangerous especially to women of color. Dr. Moore also talks about how being the first woman to preach at her childhood church, and later to become the first female pastor at her current church, helped her to see the need for advocacy for other women seeking to become pastors
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Mark Charles, Native American pastor and author of the book Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery with co-author Soong-Chan Rah, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Supremacy's impact on Native Americans. Mark gives a breakdown of his background growing up in a missionary school on the Navajo Reservation and his journey to becoming a pastor on the Reservation. They break down what the Doctrine of Discovery is starting with Christopher Columbus and the Catholic Church who authorized this doctrine. Mark then shows how Protestants who initially rejected the Doctrine of Discovery because of its Catholic roots, changed course on the way to the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Tim and Mark examine the Homestead Act of 1862 and the impact it had on Native Americans across the country. Mark explains how the racist policies of Abraham Lincoln impact current issues with incarcerated black Americans and removal of Native Americans off their native lands.
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Tim sat down with Janice who runs the instagram account Godhasnotgiven to talk about her time working at Hillsong NYC and interacting directly with Carl Lentz. Janice was open and honest about her time and how it eventually lead to her leaving the Evangelical Church for good.
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Author of a recent TGC (The Gospel Coalition) article, Joshua Butler came on the show to discuss his article "Four Causes for Deconstruction". In the article Josh presents 4 common causes that people deconstruct which are Church Hurt, Poor Teaching, Want to Sin and Street Cred. Tim brought Josh on to talk about the article and some concerns he has with it.
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Bradly Mason author on the Twitter account Also A Carpenter, a friend and colleague of Dr. Nathan Cartegena and cabinet maker sits down with Tim to break down what CRT is and why it matters to understand it. Brad, explains his background as a carpenter and how he began to study CRT and began writing on his account to educate those within the Reformed Church about CRT. Tim and Brad first examine certain terms often used by those within white Evangelical spaces to criticize CRT: Critical Theory, Frankfurt School of Thought, and Critical Race Theory. Brad, points out that the Frankfurt School of Thought disagreed with aspects of Marxism and that Bell, one of the founders of CRT, disagrees with both Marx and the Frankfurt School on some aspects of systematic injustice as well. Tim and Brad then breakdown how post Civil Rights Act, disparities continued however and racial injustice no longer was accepted as the root cause. TIm and Brad then examine why the white Evangelical church finds the idea of CRT so repugnant. Lastly, Tim and Brad discuss what will happen to the white Evangelical church as a result of their resistance to CRT.
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Bridget Eileen Rivera, author of Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways the LGBT Community Experiences Harm From the Church sits down with Tim to discuss how culture and the Religious Right's agenda influenced how Evangelicals were taught to view queerness. Bridget, gives some background about how she came to write her latest book. She gives the history of the Religious RIght's influence on the church starting with the AIDS crisis and the Gay Civil Rights era. Tim and Bridget then discuss how the terms homosexual and heterosexual came into our modern vocabulary from Freud's work on human sexuality. They discuss how that led to the translators of the Bible changing how certain Greek words were translated from the NT clobber passages from their original English translations to homosexual in 1946. Bridget, explains how culture for many of the early church fathers viewed all non-procreative sex as sodomy.
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On this episode Tim interviews not ONE but TWO distinguished guests. Dr. Stephen Backhouse and Rabbi Avi Finegold offer a unique insight to Christian nationalism, its roots and how it has taken ideas from judaism and twisted it to create a narrative that is actually counter to both Jewish and Christian thought throughout the ages.
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Dr. Jessica Johnson, professor and author of the book Biblical Porn sits down with Tim to discuss her book and interview with the Mars Hill Podcast. Tim and Jessica discuss what Mars Hill was like in the beginning in Seattle and how it attracted some many young adults. Tim and Jessica discuss the problems around Mark Driscoll's comments on women and men's objectification of them and how his sermons became so popular among white Evangelicals. Jessica, explains her interview with Christianity Today's podcast about Mars Hill and how she at first wasn't sure about the fourth episode but thought the fifth episode did put Mark's sermon clips in so that her words were backed up. Tim and Jessica discuss the fallout from Mars Hill and how the survivors of Mark Driscoll's abuse have never seen repentance from him. They also discuss how Mark has moved on to another church and is now taking up the cause of Christian Nationalism and criticism of CRT. Lastly, Jessica explains how her new research into Christian Nationalism outside the church will be the focus of her next book.
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Marcie is the creator and founder of Black Coffee with White Friends which is a space designed to bring people from different backgrounds to understand each other. Marci shares her story with Tim and her experiences with racism in her childhood and again as an adult dealing with the public school system.
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On this episode Tim talked to author, pastor and speaker Paula Williams. Paula transitioned from a man to a woman and has a unique perspective on what she has learned since transitioning. Tim and Paula talk about her former job as a CEO and president of a church planting network and what life is like now as she advocates for women’s rights and equal pay in the workplace.
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Dr. Hayhoe is a leading voice in the ongoing climate change science and her new book “Saving Us” talks about both the science of climate change the politicalization of it. Her book attempts to bridge the gap between those who are skeptical of climate change and those who are leading the charge on the importance of changing societal norms to help save the planet. We talk about the data showing why climate change is being caused by humans, the skepticism around it and how we move forward.
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Jemar Tisby, author, scholar, activist and student of the renowned author and scholar Dr. William Pannell, discusses racism within Evangelicalism based on the book by Dr. Pannell, The Coming Race War. Jemar, gives the history and background on his mentor, Dr. Pannell. He explains how in 1992, Dr. Pannell identified the crisis that white Evangelicalism continues to ignore about racism both in secular society but also in Evangelical theology and churches. Tim and Jemar explore how that lack of identification of black voices within Evangelicalism makes it difficult for white Evangelicals to hear their position on racism. Jemar, explains how historical context is important to understand the current minimization of racism and its implications on society as a whole. Jemar, also explains the whitelash, or the silencing of black voices on this subject, and how it hinders the work that Jemar and other black scholars/activists/theologians do. Finally, Jemar and Tim look at ways to support black Christians in their work to fight racism within Evangelicalism, as well as in other spheres of society.
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Cody Lawrence, podcast creator, former missionary, and pastor joins Tim to discuss everything from what the Bible is, what are the three greatest problems in the church, and the great mask debate from Biblical perspectives. Cody and Tim, give a little bit of background for each other’s listening audience. They also examine the issue of what the Bible is and whether it is inerrant or not. The idea of objective truth is explored through both Cody and Tim’s different theological perspectives. Tim and Cody, discuss what they believe are the three greatest problems in the American church and the implications of those problems on the church. Lastly, Tim and Cody comment on the concept of masking during the pandemic. They debate the Biblical idea of submission to governmental authorities and what that means to each of them.
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David Hayward, author, artist and content creator of the Instagram account Naked Pastor joins Tim to discuss his new book, Til Doubt Us Do Part, about deconstruction in marriage. Tim and David, discuss his background and how that evolved into the current platform David has on the Naked Pastor. Tim and David, break down what deconstruction can do to a marriage relationship. David explains how a marriage should have flexibility to accommodate deconstruction in one or both partners. They both discuss what to do in relationships where there is an abusive or narcissistic spouse. David, gives some advice about how to deal with a spouse or family member who is deeply Alt-Right or fundementalist. Both Tim and David, talk about the negative impact Evangelical indoctrination can have on a marriage relationship and how marriage has been redefined by the current generation. Lastly, David imparts his wisdom about the journey of deconstruction and what to expect.
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Ben Cremer, historian, pastor and friend, breaks down the beginnings of the movement historians later called Evangelicalism. Tim and Ben, start from the beginning in pre-Civil War America and how people like Charles Phiney saw the ills within society and decided to apply their Christianity to the community around them. Ben, explains these Revivalists, as they referred to themselves, saw slavery, women’s subjugation and the predatory practices of the rich on the poor as immoral. This led to the Second Great Awakening and the abolitionist movement. Tim and Ben, examine how this idea led to modern beliefs that differ so much from the original movement. The book Discovering an Evangelical Heritage by Donald W. Dayton is also discussed and its importance in understanding early Evangelicals.
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On this episode I'm joined by Melanie from the Holy Heretics Podcast and Katherine from the Uncertain Podcast where we discuss the most recent episode from the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill featuring Josh Harris. In the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, host Mike Cosper interviews Harris where they talk about church celebrity culture, deconstruction and Josh's rise in Evangelicalism. As the episode comes to a close there were some troubling statements made about deconstruction and the Evangelical Church so we recorded this episode to respond to them.
I highly recommend listening to the most recent Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast episode for context.
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Michael, from The Honest Youth Pastor, sits down with Tim and discuss how the The Honest Youth Pastor came about. Michael, explains what he believes is the Biblical model for the church. Tim and Michael, also discuss how the issue of static doctrinal statements within churches can be problematic and helpful. Michael, explains how the issue of information overload in deconstruction, can often create confusion for a believer. He also found that Progressive Christianity was more harmful than Fundementalist Christianity. He and Tim, debate the spectrum between those two extremes and the need for discussion and education for informed decision-making
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Megan Madsen, a Wesleyan theologian, discusses with Tim whether or not social justice is Biblical justice. From the Hebrew Bible to the Gospels, Megan breaks down how Judaism viewed injustice and how God expected Israel to respond to oppression of any kind. Megan, also reorients believers to an oppressed centered gospel in which the Spirit of God moves through a believer and accomplishes good deeds through them. She points out that modern Evangelicalism is centered on the white, male, heteronormative, Christian, captialist model and the gospel must benefit that believer. This is in contrast to the believer being beneficial to those around them, especially the most vulnerable in society.
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Dr. Katie, professor and researcher as well as master level yoga instructor, breaks down how Evangelical spaces can co-opt our identities and provide breeding grounds for abusive authority. Dr. Katie, explains early childhood development and how that creates our formation of identity. Identity, she argues, influences what kind of relational intimacy we have as adults. Tim and Dr. Katie, explore how churches, by their very nature of subjective truth, have a greater influence than authority figures who operate from objective fact. This pushes the average church goer to conform. Dr. Katie and Tim, look at how to do embodiment integration especially for women in deconstruction spaces who were survivors of spiritual abuse/trauma.
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Jamin Andreas Hubner, professor and researcher of economics , breaks down what capitalism is and how it isn’t compatible with a Biblical ethic. Jamin and Tim define some of the economic terms used in Evangelical spaces and what they really mean. They also explain how capitalism creates a coercion of labor due to the inequities in an economic system based on the employee and employer model. Jamin, then, describes an old buy forgotten model of the cooperative model in business and how it better meets the Biblical ethic of loving your neighbor.
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On this episode Tim sits down with pastor, author and podcast producer, Mike Graham, who penned the article on The Gospel Coalition Network called The Six Way Fracturing of Evangelism which dissects the breakdown of Evangelism during the last election cycle. Mike is the executive pastor of Orlando Grace Church in Orlando, Florida and produces a podcast called As It Is In Heaven. Mike and Tim discuss the concept behind the article and where it originated. Mike, explains in a comprehensive way how deconstruction fits into this six category model.
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Sheila Gregoire, author of The Great Sex Rescue and the Facebook page To Love, Honor and Vacuum, is back to break down the misleading issues in Evangelical literature about marriage and sex. Beginning with her background, Sheila explains how the book The Great Sex Rescue became one of the first comprehensive scientific surveys on Evangelical Christian women’s sexual mental well-being and pleasure. Sheila and Tim explore the myths and harmful influences of these well known marriage books by Evangelical Christian authors.
Sheila, begins by giving background on how her venture into the world of Christian women’s sexuality began. She explains how the book The Great Sex Rescue came about. Her research for the book used the first of its kind scientific survey to gauge women’s sexual satisfaction, women’s marriage health and women’s overall view of sex. Sheila, identifies four problems within the literature of well known Christian authors: The most damaging being sex is primarily for men, women were experiencing pleasure 47% less than the rate of their husbands, physical explanations for lack of pleasure not addressed, and myths about women’s sexuality. Sheila, goes on to explain how those books were not scientifically analyzed but used faulty interpretation of the data of peer reviewed material. Tim and Sheila look at the myths promoted in these well known books such as: Men have no self-control and therefore their wives must satisfy their sexual needs without a consideration of their own, issues of consent in marriage exploited by these authors, the dehumanization of men by portraying them as sex crazed maniacs, and how a woman’s painful intercourse isn’t tied to her need for non-intercourse stimulation.
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I came across Matthew Boedy when I read an article he wrote critiquing Charlie Kirk’s rhetoric. I had to bring Professor Boedy on to ask him why he has an entire website devoted to Charlie Kirk and what his thoughts were on the resurgence of Christian Nationalism. Because Professor Boedy teaches rhetoric at the college level, we also dug in to talk radio and what makes their style of rhetoric so successful.
For those who don’t know, Charlie Kirk is one of the most influential and popular conservative commentators to come up in recent memory. He started a network called Turning Point USA which has a massive social media presence and is devoted to upholding Trumpism and conservative values.
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A few weeks ago I asked social media if someone could please tell me what the phrase "Social justice is not Biblical justice" meant and it did not disappoint. Allie Stuckey shared my post and told me she had just the podcast episode. So I decided to listen to it and give my thoughts on episode 146 of the Allie Stuckey show titled "What is Biblical Justice"
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On this episode I brought Jonathan Steingard on the show to discuss his time with the Christian band Hawk Nelson. Jon has a unique perspective because he’s experience sides of the Christian culture and music industry that many of us don’t see. John and I talk about his time in Hawk Nelson and what it was like to deconstruct his faith while being the face of a popular Christian band.
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Author Bridget Rivera comes back on the show to talk about Pride Month and why Christians should care about it. As someone in the LGBTQ+ Community and a devoted Jesus follower, Bridget offers a perspective that Christians should pay attention to. Bridget’s Book Heavy Burdens comes out this October.
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On this episode I interview theologian, author and mega nerd (his words) Tripp Fuller. Tripp and I talk about the 4 gospels and how they don’t all agree on the same facts and how that’s ok. We talk about finding the divine in both inside and outside the Christian faith and at the end, Tripp picks my brain on The New Evangelicals and why I I started it. Tripp’s newest book is called Divine Self-Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology Studies in Open and Relational Theology and is available everywhere.
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This is a new series that I will be doing throughout the New Evangelicals Podcast. I believe it is essential to dialogue with the other side of the Chrsitian spectrum, to ask questons and to hear what they have to say. On this episode I interview Samuel Deuth who is a Pastor at Awaken Church in California. Samuel believes that Christians should resist tyranny and oppression by resisting mask wearing both and inside and outside buildings. Samuel’s Church has hosted Charlie Kirk and will be hosting Candace Owens this summer. I had a lot of questions for Samuel and he was kind enough to come on to answer them.
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I interviewed the father of deconstructing (my title not his) Dr. David Gushee and let me tell you friends, it did not disappoint. David is well known in academic circles for writing several textbooks that are still widely used in colleges today including the book Kingdom Ethics. However, over time, David found himself more at odds with the fundamentalist take over the evangelicalism and when he wrote his LGBTQ affirming book, changing our minds, he was promptly kicked out. Since then David has spent his time writing After Evangelicalism and giving the deconstruction community better language for what they’ve experienced.
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On this episode I sat down with the legendary John Walton who is an expert in the Old Testament and who has written over 30 books about his work. John and I dig deep into Genesis 1, talk about Adam and Eve and John offers incredible insight on major narratives in the Bible that our western eyes often miss.
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On this episode Joey from the Dismantle Podcast asked several podcast hosts in his network to join him for a mega 90 day fiancé TELL ALL style episode. So that's what we did. We talk about our Church experience, losing friends and how we've found new friends through this deconstruction network.
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I sat down with Staci Frenes author of Love Makes Room which documents Staci’s journey of moving from a non-affirming to an affirming position when her daughter came out. Staci and I talk about the painful journey of losing friends in the Evangelical Church over this decision and how she and her daughter have found healing on the other side along with understanding that God’s love is bigger and wider than what we are sometimes lead to believe.
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On this episode Meghan Tschanz, author of Women Rising, joins me to talk about her journey growing up in a conservative, patriarchal church environment and having her world rocked as she traveled the globe with the mission’s organization the world race. Meghan’s story is powerful, heartbreaking and hopeful.
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This is a very personal episode for me. On this episode my friend Will from the Space Between Podcast came on to interview me around my recent departure from my Church of six years. We talk about my backstory and the events leading up to my departure, dealing with Church hurt and where I’m at now. Honest and transparency are a core value for me and this episode is me doing that to the best of my ability.
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On this episode I interview Grace Baldridge who’s artist name is Semler. Grace is a queer Christian who released a worship album that ranked #1 on iTunes. We talked about her experience in the Church as someone in the LGBTQ+ community, writing raw and honest music as worship to the Creator and how to push the Church forward to be more inclusive of a community that has often been ostracized and attacked by the American Evangelical Church.
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Theology nerds! This episode is for you! I talk to Dr. Michael Heiser who’s expertise is the nature of the spiritual realm in the Bible, namely the Divine Councill and the hierarchy of the spiritual order. If you thought the Bible was weird then buckle up because it’s about to get really weird. Dr. Heiser runs his own podcast, The Naked Bible and is also the Executive Director of the School of Ministry at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida.
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On this episode I brought my friend Peter on to talk about the Church persecution complex, Church culture and how to decolonize overseas missions. Peter is the executive director of Bethany kids which is a compassionate Christian mission transforming the lives of African children with surgical conditions and disabilities through pediatric surgery, rehabilitation, public education, spiritual ministry and training health professionals.
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On this episode I interviewed Dr. Camden Morgante who is a licensed psychologist with a focus on dismantling the harm that purity culture has caused millions of people. We talk about Dr. Camden’s article titled ”The 5 Purity Culture Myths”, healing from purity culture and ways we can teach our kids a healthy view of human sexuality.
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On this emergency episode I brought on Bridget Rivera @travelingNun) to talk about the recent Lil Nas X controversy and the Evangelical Church’s reaction to it. Bridget is a Christian a lesbian and is currently PHD’ing (stole from her bio). She has served as a committee member for Revoice and worked with other faith-based organizations such as Christians for Social Action and the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Bridget also has a book coming out called Heavy Burden 7 Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church. It’s now available for pre-order
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Will Thorpe from @Heretical_Theology joins me to share his journey from fundamentalist Christianity all the way into atheism. This episode isn’t about debating which worldview is right. Instead this is about Will being able to share his story and his perspective so we can listen and learn.
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On this episode I had Eric Skwarczynski from the Preacher Boys Podcast join me to talk about his work uncovering the rampant sexual abuse in the Evangelical Church, specifically in the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement. Eric is doing the hard but necessary work to uncover how the IFB moves abusers around, covers up abuse and even has a “rehab” for abusers run by…an abuser!
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Phil Drysdale runs the deconstruction network and is devoted to helping people deconstruct their faith. Phil was deep in the evangelical movement for decades and his story is full of twists and turns. For those deconstructing, this is the episode to listen to. Phil has great language and perspective on this often scary situation that many have found themselves in. We talk about what deconstructing is (and isn’t) what it can look like (or doesn’t look like) and Phil shares some surprising statistics on the type of people that are deconstructing (HINT: It’s not the the uncommitted Christian)
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Jo Luehmann is a former pastor and is working to dismantle systems of oppression and toxic theology (stole that from her Instagram bio). Jo is someone with not only a powerful story but who also has a perspective on the Christian faith that needs to be heard. We went deep on this one covering topics like the divinity of Christ, the Bible and deconstruction. One thing about Jo that I love is that she is committed to speaking the truth in love without dehumanizing those she disagrees with.
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Shama is a content creator on Instagram and Tik Tok who makes hilarious Christian satire videos. Tim sat down with Shama to talk about the process of creating content, disillusionment with the American Evangelical Church and why the Church, in Shama’s view, is still worth saving.
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