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How Can You Option Valuable IP and Get it Made with Josh Gordon and Will Speck

41 min • 18 oktober 2022

Josh Gordon and Will Speck are the directing duo behind the film, Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile. This duo explains the complex process of adapting a well-loved, children’s book to the big screen.


In this episode, we talk about…

  • How Josh and Will first met and what inspired them to direct projects together
  • Dividing the directing responsibilities between them
  • Their unique approach to producing such a complex film
  • Why they chose to adapt this particular story into a performance-based musical
  • How they convinced the IP owners to give them permission for the project
  • Honoring the artwork from the book in the making of the film



Memorable Quotes

  • “Something about otherness and about acceptance of things that don’t appear the way that you want them to.” [15:30]
  • “There’s something about what you have to impose on these characters, or creatures, in the absence of them speaking...and it also makes them more soulful.” [23:42]
  • “There’s nothing more complicated than a human-being. A human being is unpredictable.” [27:59]



Mentioned in the episode:

Lyle Lyle Crocodile is in theaters



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