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The No Film School Podcast

Programmers & Filmmakers on the State of Shorts

67 min • 5 december 2024

In this episode of No Film School, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman are joined by filmmakers and programmers Erin Brown Thomas, Jillian Corsie, and Rafael Leyva to discuss the current state of short films. They dive into the challenges, creativity, and evolving landscape of the medium, exploring how short films serve as a crucial platform for experimentation and storytelling.


In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman discuss:

  • The current climate for short films in the industry, including programming and distribution challenges
  • How filmmakers like Erin, Jillian, and Rafael are innovating within the short film format
  • The role of short films as both creative playgrounds and stepping stones for larger projects
  • Programming insights from festivals like Salute Your Shorts and Slamdance
  • Personal experiences creating impactful shorts, including Tooth and The Foster Ranch


Memorable Quotes:

  • “Short films are such a cool outlet. If there’s any upcoming filmmakers out there, it’s such a great way to tell a story in a little time, and people have no idea how difficult that is.” (10:31)
  • “Shorts are this wonderful playground for creativity and trying new things.” (32:11)
  • “There’s a certain level of experimentation in shorts, and that’s why I think, even if I’m four features into my career, there might still be room for me to make shorts.” (32:11)


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