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Studio Strategy & Indie Grit in the Wake of ‘Sinners’

59 min • 24 april 2025

In this two-part episode of the No Film School Podcast, hosts GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman dive into the success of Ryan Coogler’s new original film Sinners, a box office hit that marks a significant moment for original storytelling in Hollywood. They explore Coogler’s strategic career trajectory from shorts to studio features, examining what emerging filmmakers can learn from his path. Later in the episode, GG takes us back to the 2022 Sundance Film Festival with an interview featuring director Sing J. Lee. They discuss his debut feature, The Accidental Getaway Driver, and the deeply personal journey behind its creation, from a 10-year music video career to a rapid eight-week co-writing process, and the film’s intimate portrayal of cultural duality and human connection.


In this episode we discuss...

  • The box office and cultural impact of Ryan Coogler’s Sinners
  • Coogler’s path from indie shorts to studio blockbusters
  • The importance of building a team and sustaining collaborations
  • Crafting and maintaining a personal voice within the studio system
  • GG’s interview with director Sing J. Lee about his feature debut
  • The intersection of personal history and narrative storytelling in The Accidental Getaway Driver
  • Sing’s transition from music videos to feature filmmaking
  • Writing and directing with emotional and cultural authenticity


Memorable Quotes:

  • "It’s been a long time since something original entered the cultural lexicon."
  • "Artists should work on something that not only matters to them but that the world needs to hear about."
  • "We’re looking for the vessel for where our voice might be best suited."
  • "You’ve already done so much work, whether you know it or not."


Guest:

  • Sing J. Lee – IMDb


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