'Get Over It': Politics Is Part Of Foreign Policy, White House Says

White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney acknowledged on Thursday that President Trump expected concessions from Ukraine's president in exchange for engagement — but said that's just how business is done in diplomacy. Plus, ambassador Sondland testifies before Congress. This episode: political correspondent Asma Khalid, White House reporter Ayesha Rascoe, and justice correspondent Ryan Lucas. Email the show at [email protected]. Find and support your local public radio station at npr.org/stations.

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