Bill and Ward talk to Lt. Joseph Hanacek, USN, about his article in the April PROCEEDINGS titled, "Presence is Not Deterrence," in which he makes a distinction between "active" and "latent" suasion and suggests the Navy is doing too much of the latter while assuming it covers the former.
Read the article at https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/april/presence-not-deterrence