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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Out of the Depths

90 min • 2 november 2021

Ross Douthat is back on The Remnant to discuss his new book, The Deep Places, a memoir of his six-year struggle with chronic illness. With numerous references to The Exorcist, Jonah and Ross take a deep dive into his ordeal, and even manage to mix in a generous amount of rank punditry on political tribalism and the conservative movement in the COVID era. Did Ross’ sickness cause him to reconsider his views on health care policy? How did he cope while enduring a period of prolonged suffering and isolation? And how has Donald Trump changed Republican politics?

Show Notes:

- Ross’ new book, The Deep Places

- Ross’ page at National Review

- Ross’ page at the New York Times

- Ross is profiled in The Dispatch

- Ross: “How I became a sick person”

- The Invisible Kingdom, by Meghan O’Rourke

- The Remnant with Paul Bloom

- Mom Genes, by Abigail Tucker

- John Tooby on coalitional instincts

- R.R. Reno: “Say ‘No’ to Death’s Dominion”

- Jonah: “The Treason of Epidemiologists”

- The Capitol rioters running for office

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