Ep. 172 - Security Awareness Series - Creating Psychological Salt with Ted Harrington

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Ted Harrington. Ted is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. Ted has been named both Executive of the Year by the American Business Awards and an SD Metro 40 Under 40 entrepreneur. Ted has been featured in more than 100 media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and Forbes. [June 20, 2022] 

00:00 – Intro 

00:56 – Intro Links 

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ 
• Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ 

• Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ 
• Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ 
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb 
• CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ 
• innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 

02:32 – Ted Harrington Intro 

03:21 – How did you start off in this industry? 

06:15 – Explain it like I'm 12 years old 

07:59 – The origins of ISE  

09:32 – Is there a "perfect" Password Manager? 

14:11 – How to communicate at the executive level 

16:54 – The right and wrong ways of investing in security 

25:17 – Responsible Disclosure 

29:04 – The challenges of the Medical Device field 

32:39 – The problem with legislation driving security  

34:20 – The manufacturers’ role in safety and security  

36:00 – Who is the book "Hackable" for? 

38:05 – Find Ted online 

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/securityted 
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/securityted 

• Website: https://www.tedharrington.com 

38:37 – Book Recommendations 

• Retail Pride - Ron Thurston  
• Art of Resilience – Hussein Al-Baiaty  

41:04 – Who is your biggest mentor? 

• Business Partner – Steve Bono 

45:35 – Wrap Up  

46:17 – Outro 

• www.social-engineer.com 
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org