In this episode, we're joined by Raja Chatila, director of Intelligent Systems and Robotics at Pierre and Marie Curie University in Paris, and executive committee chair of the IEEE global initiative on ethics of intelligent and autonomous systems. Raja and I had a great chat about his research, which deals with robotic perception and discovery. We discuss the relationship between learning and discovery, particularly as it applies to robots and their environments, and the connection between robotic perception and action. We also dig into the concepts of affordances, abstract teachings, meta-reasoning and self-awareness as they apply to intelligent systems. Finally, we touch on the issue of values and ethics of these systems. The notes for this show can be found at twimlai.com/talk/118.