We discuss Jalen Brunson and the rising Dallas Mavericks, who have won 7 of 8 games and are surprising with their defense. We also debate the value of perimeter playmakers like Matisse Thybulle, how we measure them, and how they compare to big men on defense. With Cody Houdek @codyhoudek. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball