This Little Light

Anthony Kiedis’ music education and evolution, from 1. Experimenting with his earliest form of special expression via dance → 2. Meeting Flea in high school and starting his musical journey → 3. Embracing his role as a singer → 4. The RHCP very first show, where they played a single song → 5. Navigating relationships with different producers → 6. Being influenced by Nina Hagen → 7. Meeting John Frusciante and building their creative partnership.

Anthony Kiedis is the vocalist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. 

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John Frusciante’s music education and evolution, from 1. First picking up an acoustic guitar (that he wished was electric) → 2. His first experiences with teachers, including ones that inspired him and ones that discouraged him → 3. Discovering punk rock in LA → 4. Playing his first show in LA → 5. Joining the RHCP and embracing his own signature style.

John Frusciante is the guitarist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. 

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Earl Sweatshirt’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up in Chicago, lying on his family’s Persian rug listening to jazz, African horns, and gospel music → 2. Being a dad now, watching his son learn rhythm → 3. Learning saxophone in elementary school → 4. Starting writing rap at 16 and also listening to music like Dr. Dre’s ‘Chronic 2001’ and Lil Wayne’s ‘Money on My Mind’ → 5. Visiting his dad in South Africa and starting to write music in earnest in his spare time → 6. Finding inspiration in J. Dilla’s book, Dilla Time.

Earl Sweatshirt is the virtuosic byproduct of Los Angeles’ fertile ground where hip hop sowed its seeds and historic cultural movements were born. The prodigiously-gifted writer, lyricist and producer grew from a zeitgeist of which contemporary collectives in hip hop today are predicated. And while most movements are fleeting as soon as they arrive, Earl pushed forward, documented his growth and self-discovery on record and cemented himself as one of the foremost culturally relevant MC’s in the game, one who never strayed away too far from his Los Angeles beat-scene roots. His debut album Doris arrived in 2013 and introduced the world to a more realized vision from him than his seminal mixtape Earl that was released three years prior when he was just 16-years-old. He followed Doris with the critically-lauded I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside in 2015, further exploring the depth of his technical dexterity with more swagger than prior releases. Three years later, he released Some Rap Songs in 2018, the tightly wrought album that found a more self-aware and mature Earl in his reflection of being in the public eye since a teenager, coupled with the reconciliation of the death of his father. Enter Feet of Clay, the conceptual 2019 project that continues the written narrative of Earl’s life in today’s societal landscape and world-view in real-time. Fast forward to 2022; Earl returned to the scene with critically acclaimed, SICK!

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Tenacious D’s music education and evolution, from 1. Kyle learning to play the flute, and Jack learning piano → 2. Jack meeting his creative hero, Bobby McFerrin, and being inspired to think of his voice as his instrument → 3. Tenacious D being encouraged by Harry Shearer at an early concert → 4. Building a creative process based in acting.

Jack Black and Kyle Gass make up the Greatest Band in the World: Tenacious D. The band had a variety series on HBO that aired in 1999. Their self-titled album was released in the fall of 2001 and has since been certified Platinum. The duo completed their first feature film together - Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny - which was released in November, 2006. The album Rize of the Fenix followed in 2012, receiving a GRAMMY nomination for Best Comedy Album. In 2014, Tenacious D won a GRAMMY Award in the category of Best Metal Performance for their cover of Ronnie James Dio’s “The Last In Line.” On November 2, 2018, Tenacious D released Tenacious D in Post-Apocalypto – an animated film, with each frame hand-drawn by Black and every character voiced by Black and Gass. Alongside the film, the band also dropped the album Post-Apocalypto, which acted as the soundtrack to the series, and a graphic novel in 2020. In 2021 and 2022, the duo released a series of cover songs whose proceeds went to a number of charities, putting their own spin on The Beatles, The Who, and the camp classic “The Time Warp.” They also launched their own fiber bars line in conjunction with NuGo Nutrition called Tenacious D Fiber d’Lish. Up next was the Audible Original Words + Music | Vol. 29 | Tenacious D’s The Road To Redunktion, featuring 30 years of never-before-heard archival audio, and bringing to life every anecdote with a docu-quality that places listeners right then and there. Tenacious D continues to sell out massive shows across the world, which should come as no surprise for the Greatest Band That Ever Played on Planet Earth.  

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Cory Henry’s music education and evolution, from 1. Watching his mom perform as choir director and lead musician at his church in Brooklyn and eventually playing with the choir by age five → 2. In high school joining the jazz band and going to the Village Underground open mic nights for soul and gospel music → 3. Expanding his taste beyond gospel to include hip hop → 4. Playing with Snarky Puppy and living a scrappy existence; doing it for the love, not the money.

Simply put Cory Henry is a GRAMMY Award winning artist, composer, producer, multi-instrumentalist, all around keyboard master and is the future of music! In 2021, Cory’s album Something to Say was nominated at the 2022 GRAMMY Awards for Best Progressive R&B Album and he was nominated as a producer on Eric Bellinger’s New Light. In 2022, Cory won his first Latin GRAMMY Award for Album of the Year for his work on Rosalía's album Motomami. At the 2023 GRAMMY Awards, Cory has been nominated for his new album Operation Funk for Best Progressive R&B Album and Best Latin Rock or Alternative Album on Rosalía's album Motomami. Other Cory Henry collaborations include: Imagine Dragons, Smino, Lucky Daye, and many more. Cory was previously a member of Snarky Puppy, and during his time in the band he garnered three GRAMMY Awards with the band! Most recently, Operation Funk, Cory’s latest masterpiece, has garnered attention from fans all over the world as he delivered sold out shows in Israel, Spain, Amsterdam, Australia, and throughout the United States along with playing most of the major music festivals. 

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Stewart Copeland’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up in Cairo and Beirut, and starting to play trombone at age seven, inspired by his dad, who was a trumpet player → 2. Moving on to drums at age 10 → 3. Seeing his crush dance to his band’s music and realizing its power → 4. Crawling around on the floor on his mom’s Persian rug, and realizing that the complex patterns were exactly what music was all about for him, a mix of wildness and order in a strange tension. → 5. Going to boarding school in the UK, and realizing the power of music in church → 6. His musical influences of both reggae and Baladi rhythm → 7. Managing conflict in The Police, and finding the value in band therapy.

Recruiting Sting and Andy Summers in 1977, Stewart Copeland is renowned as the founder of The Police, a band that became a defining force in rock music from the ‘80s through to the present day. His career includes the sale of more than 60 million records worldwide, and numerous awards, including five GRAMMY awards. Stewart has now spent more than three decades at the forefront of contemporary music as a rock star and acclaimed film composer, as well as in the disparate worlds of opera, ballet, and world and chamber music.

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Margo Price’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up making plays for her sister and friends → 2. Buying herself her first guitar with her eighth grade graduation money → 3. Moving to Nashville and wanting to play a different kind of country music → 4. Pawning her wedding ring and selling her car to pay for recording at Sun Studios in Memphis, making the record, and then pitching it to every label and no interest for a year, until eventually Jack White’s Third Man Records picked it up → 5. Navigating political influences on country music → 6. Facing pain and learning how to channel it through her music.

Margo Price has something to say but nothing to prove. In just three remarkable solo albums, the singer and songwriter has cemented herself as a force in American music and a generational talent. A deserving critical darling, she has never shied away from the sounds that move her, the pain that’s shaped her, or the topics that tick her off, like music industry double standards, the gender wage gap, or the plight of the American farmer (in 2021, she even joined the board of Farm Aid). While the last few years have seen remarkable moments of acclaim – a Best New Artist GRAMMY nomination, Americana Music Honors, a Saturday Night Live performance, and just about every outlet and critics’ year-end Best Of list – Price is still hungry. On her fourth full-length Strays, a clear-eyed mission statement delivered in blistering rock and roll, she’s taking on substance abuse, self-image, abortion rights, and orgasms. Musically extravagant but lyrically laser focused, the 10-song record tears into a broken world desperate for remedy. And who better to tell it? Price has been to the mountain and back, but finds herself, at long last, free. Feral. Stray.

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Rivers Cuomo’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up on an ashram in rural Connecticut, mostly cut off from mainstream popular culture → 2. Making a new friend at age seven who introduced him to Kiss, and recording themselves listening, dancing, and singing along to it → 3. Being encouraged by a friend to join chorus and musical theater in eighth grade → 4. Starting a band in high school and being inspired by Amadeus to get into music theory → 5. Moving to LA with his progressive speed metal band, Avant Garde, and then founding Weezer shortly after → 6. His Vipassana meditation practice of 20 years, suggested to him by Rick Rubin in 2003, and now including two hours of meditation per day.

Rivers Cuomo is best known as the lead vocalist, guitarist, keyboardist, and songwriter of the GRAMMY Award winning rock band Weezer. He founded Weezer in 1992; the band’s self-titled debut album was released in 1994 to massive critical and commercial success. Following the multi-platinum album, Rivers enrolled at Harvard University where he studied before dropping out to record Weezer’s 1996 album Pinkerton. He would return to Harvard in 1997 as well as 2006, when he ultimately graduated with a degree in English. In addition to Weezer’s 15 studio albums and 20+ million album sales globally, Rivers has worked on several other projects including 2 solo albums, and a joint project with Scott Murphy titled Scott & Rivers. He’s also been a featured vocalist on songs with B.O.B., Avalanches, Steve Aoki, and more. His song “Backflip” is the theme song for Netflix’s Green Eggs & Ham animated series. 

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Shelia E’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up surrounded by music with her dad, the legendary Pete Escoveda, and uncles and siblings  → 2. Starting to play the violin at the encouragement of her parents → 3. Performing for Billy Cobham and producing a record together → 4. Training as a competitive runner → 5. Touring and playing with George Duke, being exposed to other musicians and instruments → 6. Her experience being a woman playing a supposed a male dominated instrument

Sheila Escovedo picked up the drumsticks and started making music at the precocious age of three. Sheila delivered her first solo performance to a live audience two years later and has since established herself as one of the most talented percussionist/drummers and performers in the world. Best known to music fans as Sheila E., she became a top session and touring musician before the age of 20, performing and/or recording with George Duke, Herbie Hancock, Billy Cobham, Con Funk Shun, Marvin Gaye (on his final world tour), Diana Ross, Lionel Richie, Gloria Estefan, Patti LaBelle, and Steve Nicks among others. Sheila E.'s producing, arranging, and performance talents have been showcased throughout the music and film industry with appearances on, The Academy Awards, The Latin Grammy Awards, BET Awards, The American Music Awards, The Kennedy Center Honors, The Summer Olympics, WOW Awards, ALMA's, and The Image Awards just to name a few. In 2014,  Sheila  released her literary biography Titled The Beat of My Own Drum, and her solo album, ICON. Following Prince’s death she released the single ‘Girl Meets Boy’ in memory of the late, great, Prince. In 2018, Sheila E. released, ICONIC: Message for America, an album that displays her efforts in awareness of social issues and humanitarianism. Her 2019 single, ‘No Line’ with the legendary Snoop Dogg, is Sheila’s continued contribution to the music industry. Sheila E. is currently on tour with her band E Train. The Queen of Percussion plans to release new music in 2023. Sheila E. is CEO of the entertainment company StilettoFlats Inc. located in Los Angeles.

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Jewel’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up on an Alaskan homestead singing with her extended family → 2. Teaching herself to yodel at 5 years old → 3. Performing all over Alaska with her parents, including in bars and Inuit villages → 4. Attending Michigan’s Interlochen music school at 15, and street busking in Mexico during school breaks → 5. Negotiating the record deal for Pieces of You and striving to protect the organic process of making her music → 6. Releasing her latest record, Freewheelin’ Woman, and embracing what one reviewer dubbed her BDE performance style

Jewel went from a girl who grew up with no running water on an Alaskan homestead, to a homeless teenager in San Diego, to an award-winning, multi platinum recording artist who released one of the best-selling debuts of all time. Through her career, Jewel has sold over 30 million albums worldwide and has earned 26 nominations for such awards as the Grammys, American Music Awards, MTV Awards, VH1 Awards, Billboard Music Awards, and Country Music Awards, winning eight times. Jewel has been featured on the cover of Time magazine and Rolling Stone, and has performed on Saturday Night Live, at the Super Bowl and the NBA Finals, for the Pope and the President of the United States. Her music has spanned a wide range of genres with top hits in folk, pop, club, country, standards, children’s, and holiday music. Jewel’s new studio album, Freewheelin’ Woman, via her own Words Matter Media, is out now. 

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Cynthia Erivo’s music education and evolution, from 1. Growing up listening to Nigerian music at family gatherings → 2. Discovering her voice through singing along to Brandy, Monica, and TLC → 3. Joining the choir in high school and going to university for music psychology → 4. Working as an usher in a local theater and realizing that she had to perform → 5. Honing her skills as a musician and actress, embracing vulnerability → 6. Performing as Aretha Franklin and studying her ability to communicate complex musical feelings without knowing how to read music

Cynthia Erivo is a GRAMMY, Emmy and Tony Award-winning actress, singer, author, and producer, as well as an Academy Award, Golden Globe, and SAG nominee. Since bursting onto the West End and Broadway stages in “The Color Purple,” she has taken the world by storm. Erivo is currently in production on Universal’s film adaptation of the hit musical WICKED, where she will star as Elphaba opposite Ariana Grande’s Glinda in the highly anticipated film from director Jon M. Chu. She was most recently seen starring in Disney+’s PINOCCHIO as the Blue Fairy opposite Tom Hanks, Keegan Michael Key and Luke Evans. She will next be seen in Netflix’s LUTHER where she will star alongside Idris Elba and Andy Serkis in the feature film installment, which continues the story of the acclaimed BBC crime series. Erivo can also next be seen in the film DRIFT directed by Anthony Chen, where she stars in and produced. Drift follows a young Liberian refugee named Jacqueline (Erivo) who has barely escaped her war-torn country to a Greek island. The film had its World Premiere at the Sundance Film Festival on January 22nd, 2023. 

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Thundercat’s music education and evolution, from 1. Messing with his dad’s Billy Cobham records with his brother Ronald → 2. Growing up with two musician parents, and going to gigs with his dad → 3. Befriending Kamasi Washington and their teacher Reggie Andrews taking them under his wing → 4. Forming the Young Jazz Giants and gigging all over town, including at Laker games → 5. Joining a boy band and touring Europe as a teenager → 6. Playing in Suicidal Tendencies and learning how to be tough on stage → 7. Being encouraged to make his own records by his friend Flying Lotus

Thundercat (Stephen Bruner) is a multiple Grammy Award-winning bassist, vocalist, producer, and composer from Los Angeles. His most recent album, It Is What It Is, released in the spring of 2020, won Best Progressive R&B Album at the 63rd Grammy Awards and features musical contributions from Ty Dolla $ign, Childish Gambino, Lil B, Kamasi Washington, Steve Lacy, Steve Arrington, BADBADNOTGOOD, Louis Cole, Pedro Martins, and Zack Fox. Thundercat produced the record with his longtime partner Flying Lotus. That album followed Bruner’s game-changing third album, Drunk (2017), which completed his transition from virtuoso bassist to bona fide star and cemented his reputation as a unique voice that transcends genre. Previous releases include The Golden Age of Apocalypse (2011) and Apocalypse (2013), followed by EP The Beyond / Where The Giants Roam featuring the modern classic “Them Changes.” He was later “at the creative epicenter” (per Rolling Stone) of the 21st century’s most influential hip-hop album, Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly, which earned him a Grammy for his collaboration on the track “These Walls.” He has continued to collaborate with Lamar, in addition to recent collaborations with Silk Sonic (Bruno Mars and Anderson .Paak), Haim, H.E.R., and Kaytranada, as well as contributing bass and vocals for “Black Gold,” the theme song of Netflix’s anime series Yasuke (scored by Flying Lotus), and an original song for the final season and soundtrack of HBO’s Insecure. In addition to music, Thundercat recently made his acting debut with a recurring role as The Modifier in the Star Wars series The Book of Boba Fett, appeared as the face of recent fashion/brand campaigns with Kerwin Frost x Beats and Salehe Bembury x New Balance, and was a guest at Paris Fashion Week and other events from Spanish luxury designer Loewe. The name Thundercat refers to the cartoon he’s loved since childhood and an extension of his wide-eyed, vibrant, often superhuman approach to his craft. 

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Patti Smith’s music education and evolution, from 1. Being transfixed by Little Richard’s Tutti Frutti walking down the street with her mom → 2. Wanting to become an opera singer after hearing Eleanor Steber’s “Un Bel Di” on the radio → 3. Starting to write poetry at the advice of Bobby Neuwirth → 4. Writing songs for Blue Oyster Cult → 5. Embracing the scene at the Chelsea Hotel, hanging with Janis Joplin → 6. Meeting Jimi Hendrix on the steps at Electric Lady Studios → 7. Raising her kids with her husband Fred in Michigan, away from the pressures of the music industry → 8. Receiving important advice from William S. Burroughs → 9. Remembering a class with her eighth grade music teacher that’s stayed with her throughout her career

Patti Smith is the author of the National Book Award winner, Just Kids, as well as Woolgathering, M Train, Year of the Monkey, and Devotion. Her seminal album Horses has been hailed as one of the top 100 albums of all time. In 2005, the French Ministry of Culture awarded Smith the title of Commandeur des Arts et des Lettres. Inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2007, Smith is also the recipient of the ASCAP Founders Award, Sweden’s Polar Prize for significant achievements in music, and the 2020 PEN Literary Service Award. In 2022 she received the French Legion of Honor and the Pegasus Award for Poetry. She resides in New York City.

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Finneas’ music education and evolution, from 1. Realizing music could be a career after seeing Green Day in concert at age 11 → 2. Falling in love with music as a kid in the backseat of his parents’ minivan → 3. Learning his first song on piano to impress a girl → 4. Forming a band with his high school friends and recording one of their first songs with his sister Billie Eilish → 5. Signing their first record deal at age 18 and 13 respectively → 6. Evolving into a producer → 7. Finneas’ advice to aspiring musicians

Academy Award- and GRAMMY Award-winning singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and composer FINNEAS has quietly emerged as an unassumingly ubiquitous presence in popular music and culture. He introduced a heartfelt and hypnotic style on 2019’s debut Blood Harmony EP highlighted by the gold-certified “Let’s Fall in Love for the Night.” 2021 saw him unveil his full-length debut, The Optimist [Interscope Records]. It arrived to widespread acclaim from Rolling Stone, DIY, The Line of Best Fit, and NME. At the same time, he landed on the covers of publications such as V Man, L’Officiel Hommes USA, Billboard, and Mix Magazine and late-night television shows a la Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel LIVE!. He packed houses on headline tours and performed at festivals such as Coachella. His catalog grew to encompass popular collaborations with Ashe, Ringo Starr, and Lizzy McAlpine in addition to producing and/or co-writing tracks Justin Bieber, Halsey, Demi Lovato, Kid Cudi, girl in red, James Bay, Selena Gomez, Camila Cabello, and Tove Lo. He achieved stratospheric success for his work with his sister Billie Eilish, including eight GRAMMY Awards, headline sets at Coachella and Glastonbury, and an Academy Award and a Golden Globe Award both in the category of “Best Original Song” for “No Time To Die” from No Time To Die—which he co-wrote and co-produced. He expanded his oeuvre as a sought-after composer. His filmography boasts original scores for HBO Max’s award-winning The Fallout and BJ Novak’s Vengeance. For the Disney PIXAR animated hit Turning Red, he and Billie wrote all of the music for the film’s boyband 4*Town. Not to mention, he produced the tracks, contributed vocals, and inhabited the role of Jesse. FINNEAS continues to evolve, expand, and engage in 2023 and beyond.

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Rick Rubin’s music education and evolution, from 1. Falling in love with the Beatles’ Rock and Roll Music at three or four years old and chasing that feeling of transcendence the rest of his life → 2. Growing up in “uncool” Long Island and liking all genres without caring what anyone thought → 3. Rick’s taste evolving and recording with his high school noisy punk rock band, Hose → 4. Intro to hip hop at NYU, buying records and going to Negril → 5. Evolving into a producer who approaches music as a fan, not a musician → 6. Rick’s advice to aspiring musicians

Rick Rubin is a nine-time GRAMMY Award-winning producer, named one of the 100 most influential people in the world by TIME and the most successful producer in any genre by Rolling Stone. The author of the book The Creative Act: A Way of Being, he has collaborated with artists from Tom Petty to Adele, Johnny Cash to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys to Slayer, Kanye West to the Strokes, and System of a Down to Jay-Z.

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Hosted by Flea, founding member and bassist of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, This Little Light is a podcast about falling in love with music. Flea interviews musical guests from all genres to discuss the teachers who guided them, the influences that inspired them, and how the lessons they learned as young musicians have shaped their creativity, resilience, and careers. This Little Light, a production of Cadence13 and Parallel, launching on March 30 with new episodes dropping weekly, is available for free wherever you get your podcasts.

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