Okay I need to set the record straight right away: we apparently did the 2013 Nicolas Cage movies out of order. It should have gone The Frozen Ground, The Croods, then Joe. Either way, we we're back on track by watching Joe (2013), which was another out-of-nowhere surprisingly good film. This podcast, and honestly this whole movie, rightfully focuses a lot on a brilliant supporting actor - the late Gary Poulter. Enjoy as we discuss the last good flick we will watch for a long time...